0 m]
modifies the output, but the end spike remains, and the passage heights
along the unsurveyed passage become erratic, not particularly reflecting the
dimensions entered.
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will be large to get a reasonable result.
I agree that for most other uses there is no need for images larger than a
few hundred kB.
Bruce
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Of Martin Sluka
Sent: Monday, 13 July 2009 4:36 a.m
Probably best solution would be if preview inheritance could be turned
>>on/off by some switch. Would it solve your problems?
>OK, I will put it on the TODO list. May be it will not be too
complicated...
If it's related and not too hard (and not already completed)- allowing
sketches to be offset as well would be nice.
Thanks
Bruce
Hmm, pdfcrop seems not to work on my windows machine.
Get an infinite loop with the cursor flashing around in the cmd window.
???
Bruce
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Of Martin Luethi
Sent: Thursday, 9 July 2009 8:32 p.m
Thanks
I'm already a convert to pdftk.
I'll try pdfcrop.
Bruce
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Of Martin Luethi
Sent: Thursday, 9 July 2009 8:32 p.m.
To: List for Therion users
Subject: [Therion] pdf creation for very
Thanks for all those replies.
That looks like a 'shiny thing' and my mind just wants to explore and get it
working.
However I have more pressing priorities just now, so I'll park the terrain
model extraction for now.
Bruce
definition, north type (true, magnetic,
grid) & rotation should be included on the map. I will see what I can
do - please put it on the savannah in any case.
Regards, S.
On Sun, Jul 5, 2009 at 12:11 AM, Bruce
Mutton wrote:
> Some time ago the issue of including the output co-ordinate
>Have you tried this:
>units tape feet
>units dimensions m
>m.s.
Have to admit I have not.
I'm not that keen to try, but in keeping with the amazing versatility and
flexibility of Therion I would expect it to handle the above instruction
without bother.
Bruce
dimensions
(and depth and co-ordinates etc) to be used in the same centreline if they
are specifically defined by the user.
Perhaps a NZ caver will visit the USA, have to use an imperial tape measure,
but estimate LRUD in metric???
Bruce
original location, not the previewed passage in the new
location - this aspect is working correctly)
Any ideas on this? Has been like this from about 5.2.6 thru 5.2.10
Cheers
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the scrap outline is really degenerated (and you can ignore therion's
message about intersecting outline for that scrap).
Bruce
me
functionality?
Bruce
was required.
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as not to
reach 'maximum capacity' before we finish our map?
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so a successful pdf output does not mean the drawing is free of errors.
Bruce
o-ords or other interesting information
from the file produced.
I am not good at this so perhaps someone else can explain.
The syntax I use for textual outputs is similar to that below...
Bruce
#!SURVEY LIST EXPORT
export survey-list -output Output/Late08Series_Surveys.html
#!CONTINUATION LIS
the
process of drawing the second elevation based on the first.
Bruce
thanks a lot for yr help
Yr welcome
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Bruce
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My Disto-X is still misbehaving, but at least I can now interpret and
manipulate the results myself.
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difference. I have yet to go far far away
from civilisation, but of course will have to try this very soon.
Bruce
ute a synopsis of the calibration theory, the
mathematical process and the meaning of the various numbers produced when a
calibration is exported.
If you've got this far, thanks for spending the time.
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it low priority, but agree preserving the leading zero and
incrementing the suffix regardless of whether it's numeric or alpha would be
a nice touch.
Bruce
proposition.
Has anyone else noticed or had difficulty with this behaviour?
Is it likely that it can be altered?
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red prefix's to describe the survey year and
trip/team. I guess I'll have to convert letters to digits.
Thanks again
Bruce
a small dataset that demonstrates the interaction between
PocketTopo and Therion?
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endmap
In a similar way you can manage lots of map variants, and they do not affect
the integrity of your cave survey data.
See pages 30-31 of the 5.2.7 Therion Book.
Bruce
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consistent.
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ation to patch together the various pdfs??
Other ideas?
Bruce
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possible).
Bruce
data files.
If so they might like to post to the forum to save me the trouble of
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desire?
"normal/reverse . extend given and following stations to the same/reverse
direction as previous station. If two stations are given, direction is
applied only to given shot.
Bruce
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r smaller, and progressively less text as the scale heads towards
1:10,000. The only change required is to uncomment the appropriate layout -
two keystrokes!
Bruce
ly add corrections 'by eye'. May be confusing, as probably the
scraps as drawn in Xtherion will overlap (although the finished product
should butt them together correctly).
Cheers,
Hope this helps
Bruce
"
You know there's got to be a positioning problem, as it seems to hover
around +-few degrees usually.
So I'll concede Therion is working perfectly and user error is to blame!
Apologies
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hanges required?
Or perhaps a simpler approach is to modify the syntax following;
code metapost
fonts_setup(0,0,0,4,6);
where a font size of 0 means it is not printed (currently returns an error).
Thanks for your patience.
Any further guidance appreciated.
Bruce
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and what the 'caves' and
'continuations' outputs indicate.
A bug, or am I misunderstanding something?
Using 5.2.7
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about revise, flip and extend that I, so I'll
watch this space with baited breath.
Bruce
well.
And thanks for fixing the map-header bug Martin. I'm looking forward to
5.2.8 to see it in action.
(No hurry though)
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Wonder if anyone can tell me what is going on here?
I have a set of files that produce a grid, fixed points and a surface image
as per the attached (fairly boring I'm sorry - image removed to keep the
file size down)
The output strangely has the north arrow pointing south (I am using 5.2.6 -
> Therion book gives just an example; the defaults ... depend on scale:
Thanks for explaining that Martin. Explains why I thought the text was
erratic sometimes.
Bruce
egular basis, if
the authoring software can do it quickly and easily. Perhaps it does not,
and if so that is OK.
Bruce
t it outlines some issues I had when
getting going.
Bruce
Is it possible to include the < or > characters in labels?
My efforts produce only a dot, or get interpreted as part of a formatting
keyword, such as etc.
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Bruce
"I would just use symbol-hide command in the layout. It is possible to
pre-define various sets of symbols which should be hidden at
particular scale (in separate layouts which are copied into layout in
use).
If you want to hide only some (no
part from applications in the system tray and task bar.
There may have been some minor corruption on data on drives, as one time
chkdisk did have some stuff to fix.
Funnily enough I seem to have stopped using the preview feature for now.
Bruce
Just an idea
Is it easy to highlight latest revisions to the Therion Book each time it is
released?
Perhaps a line in the margin or something?
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e over the previous year and not
really knowing what to do with it, or if it was in use.
Perhaps you could post some guidance as to how you want us to use it.
Do we need to register?
How to register?
What are the various categories and how to decide which one an issue fits
into?
Etc
Bruce
top spending time on it! :)
Bruce
ure I wasn't
making unnecessary work for myself.
Bruce
the cave on each page, but not quite. I can understand
this difference if the elevation were not projected either 0, 90, 180 or 270
deg, but if it is, why the discrepancy?
Is this likely to be something I'm doing wrong or is it a characteristic of
Therion?
Bruce
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this example are due to missing layout files that I have not sent through)
Bruce
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From: therion-bounces at speleo.sk [mailto:therion-boun...@speleo.sk] On Behalf
Of Stacho Mudrak
Sent: Tuesday, 27 January 2009 3:35 a.m.
To: List for Therion users
Subject: Re: [Therion] join two
. Whenever I tried this I got a
twisted looking passage as a result.
The solution? Two passage connections should be coded as;
join scrap1 scrap2 -count 2
Works much better now!
The Therion Book entry could be clarified perhaps.
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tempted to ask
if there is a valid reason for the above behaviour?
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k while multiple pdf
documents are open would be nice, but not a high priority if it is tedious
to implement.
If I was being greedy I'd ask for a dropdown box in the preview field that
remembered the last 10 output files used!
Have a nice day
Bruce
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rovided it is not offset.
What may happen when both maps are selected and one is offset is that the
preview above is superimposed on the map that is not previewed, although
there is no preview above layer in the pdf produced??
Bruce
>In the latest unstable version 5.2.6 - if you add "-filter off" option
>to continuations output, all continuations (including those without
>comment) will be exported to the list.
Sounds good!
Thanks
).
Enjoy
Bruce
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I admit.
And perhaps Therion could have an option to print only one instance of a
continuation if the survey id and station name match. Perhaps printing only
the instance with the most text?
Bruce
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was gained by trawling the forum archives.
Thanks and keep up the good work.
Bruce
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Sent: Tuesday, 13 January 2009 8:29 p.m.
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, so I can tidy up the few "scrap outline intersects
itself" errors that I get.
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compile perfectly - must be an inadvertent change I made somewhere.)
Thanks
Bruce
[173] [174] [175] [176] [177] [178] [179] [180] [181]
[Warning: scrap outline intersects itself in scrap
Late08ROPlan_s2 at Late08.Bulme
r] [182] [183] [184] [185] [186]
! angle(0,0) is taken as zero
a corrupt file. May or may not have
been related to my efforts with XTherion.
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' and
'surveys' output lists, as I expect Therion requires an id, but the titles
are probably optional;
And while I'm at it, the 'surveys' output could also include a 'date' and
'author' column.
Thoughts anyone?
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that edits are easier
to locate.
(At present the survey that identifies the physical location is listed -
regardless of where it's code is defined - and this is useful and should be
retained)
Am using version 5.2.5
Regards
Bruce
PS: I notice that the problem with continuation text being
late. Any reason why not?
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changed to which values(not so easy?)?
A small example anyone?
Thanks
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is example is taken almost exactly from footnote 20, page 24 of the
therion book.
Is there something I'm doing wrong?
(Still using 5.2.3)
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ne too nice go further"
compiles perfectly.
What is going on? Am using 5.2.3
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of one of the
pdf outputs as a map-image.
Nice! Does it usually work well? Scales match, print quality etc?
Also you have redefined a boulder field (I think)
What are it's special; features?
Bruce
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-ordinate
systems in common usage that apply to any one single cave system? :)
To answer my own question, we probably have more than six where I live, but
only two or three we are likely to use.
Bruce
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not experimented.
I assume it's related to the debug statement used in layouts.
Does it control the display of the nested level of survey? Eg 126 versus
126 at f.Greenlink.RiwakaSystem
If so I assume the default is N for none, based on my experience so far.
Is this correct?
Bruce
Stacho
Yes I think that would make the behaviour appear to be consistent.
(Presumably it is difficult to re-code so that an object is created on
pressing Ctrl+P)
Bruce
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Sent
I'm still looking for a 'best practice' on where to put grade statements and
how to control their scope/visibility. Perhaps someone could write a brief
note for the Wiki or the Therion Book?
Bruce
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>Anyway, here is simple metapost hack that you need to add to your layout to
>fix this bug until we will publish snapshot with clean solution to this
>problem.
Thanks Stacho,
That has worked perfectly.
Bruce
, and not the requested output co-ord system.
In studying the outputs I get with your data I find the same thing is
happening. Am I (we?) misunderstanding how to do the co-ordinate
conversions, or is something not working?
Bruce
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not allow users so much leeway that the meaning of the various headings
(length, depth, explored, approx, surface) becomes meaningless.
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something like;
survey table
caves table
continuations table
would be more user friendly?
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n progress...
I can see how to tweak the metapost code in some respects myself, but I may
leave the definition of another metapost for some time as well :)
Bruce
nd as I more or less
expected received an error for my effort.
(I'm using the 5.2.2 update, and I notice that the handy section at the end
of the Therion book that comes with 5.2 has been dropped off.)
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Just noticed a curious thing; a bug perhaps?
The following lines give me an output that includes altitudes of entrances
and no co-ordinates, as I would expect;
#!CAVE LIST EXPORT
export cave-list -output ./Outputs/GLMESM_SystemCaves.html #\
# -location on
And the following gives
I've seen a diving survey done in Therion. I'm learning too.
(I think that with my initial posts a few days ago I was answering quite a
different question)
Bruce
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reversing (tick the
reverse box) so the yellow arrow points inside the passage.
Hope this gets you started again.
Bruce
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to light' offset to 1
deg
endgrade
I suspect the sd's may often be larger than this. The actual sd for polar
measurements probably depends a lot on the average length of the legs I
expect
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(??) say. I have a project in mind that will require
at least the separation of surface and images.
Bruce
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Perhaps it is because it is drawn on the same layer as the surface image?
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Perhaps it is because it is drawn on the same layer as the surface image?
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Stumbled on this sheet I made a while back.
It might be useful for those like me who struggle to make nice cave colours
by making up sets of three random numbers...
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lease speak up to let us know
if I've got it wrong yet again.
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to do it,
cos regardless of how I mess with it the map that is produced is blank! It
does include my two 'survey' stations at least.
Funny thing, cos my 3MB original image works perfectly.
Perhaps someone can remind us how to scale the background sketch properly.
Bruce
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The Stdfiles contents mentioned in the previous post.
Bruce
PS: I know not how the metapost code works,. It is in my files courtesy of
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- the thconfigs open in the Compiler and the
Layouts open in the Text Editor. Much better!
Hope this helps
Bruce
PS: It occurs to me that, in my th2 file I have added the image to the
'background images' box in the menu area on the side of the map editor.
Perhaps it would be better
the size
needs to be matched for the views to be perfectly
synchronised, but the navigation pane coupled with 'equal' margins means the
views are misaligned.+
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map images, to reduce the to & fro between image editor (for resizing) and
therion.
Stacho and Martin, as always your efforts are greatly appreciated.
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I have been using insert image on full and various update versions of 0.5.2
(Windows Packages)continuously over the previous 12 months and no problems
experienced.
Using Windows XP MCE 2005, and my colleague(s) have been using older (I
presume) versions of Windows.
Bruce
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> origin 2500600 6023000 600 meters #co-ords of lower left corner of
first atlas page
> If I leave out the last line I get perfect atlas's (and all other outputs
> for that matter) - just not a very efficient use of 'paper'.
>
> If I include the last line I get;
understanding of the purpose of these two commands correct?
I have tried a number of spellings of 'meters' and leaving out the units to
no avail.
Any ideas?
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