[tw] Re: A Rant

2017-11-15 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki
Re installing node.js, did the instructions at "Installing TiddlyWiki on Node.js" at tiddlywiki.com not work for you? They were the one's I followed for node.js on Windows. I may have jumped through loops and have forgotten. Do you have a requirement for cloud or net-based tiddlywiki? I notice t

[tw] Re: A Rant

2017-11-15 Thread Furicle
Please note - my message was mostly about how tough it is to make this thing work if you aren't a javascript dev. Has this been discussed on this list before? On Wednesday, November 15, 2017 at 11:34:33 AM UTC-5, Mark S. wrote: > > Re installing node.js, did the instructions at "Installing Tiddly

[tw] Re: A Rant

2017-11-15 Thread Furicle
At the risk of asking a stupid question - would it be difficult to just wrap it all up in an Electron app bundle like Slack et al? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, s

[tw] Re: A Rant

2017-11-16 Thread @TiddlyTweeter
Ciao Furicle Furicle wrote: I am having a ridiculously complicated time trying to use > TW. I think a new user will never jump through all these hoops. > I think your sentiment is spot-on. Its a bit of a insolvable issue as there is NO dedicated "Make It Simple For Newbies" Department. The pr

[tw] Re: A Rant

2017-11-16 Thread PMario
On Wednesday, November 15, 2017 at 4:58:57 PM UTC+1, Furicle wrote: > > I am having a ridiculously complicated time trying to use TW. I think a > new user will never jump through all these hoops. > > Firefox is forcing the end of TiddlyFox, fine. There's a great Getting > Started doc with all th

[tw] Re: A Rant

2017-11-16 Thread PMario
On Thursday, November 16, 2017 at 12:55:31 PM UTC+1, @TiddlyTweeter wrote: > > Ciao PMario > > Furicle wrote: >> >> I am having a ridiculously complicated time trying to use TW. I think a >>> new user will never jump through all these hoops. >>> >> > PMario replied: > >> See: https://groups.goog

[tw] Re: A Rant

2017-11-16 Thread @TiddlyTweeter
Ciao PMario You do get it--but you miss something also--I think. IF you refer to a thread people read the THREAD. But they DO NOT need to read the thread. What they NEED is direct links to INSTRUCTIONS of what to do to get something working FIRST. Discussion should NEVER come first IMO whe

[tw] Re: A Rant

2017-11-16 Thread TonyM
Furicle, *I feel your pain. Although I am happy using multiple methods to save and manage tiddlywikis and except for a few small bug fixes I could not want for more features or options,* *the fact is the information is not clearly **available** for a **newcomer to choose which path to take, hav

[tw] Re: A Rant

2017-11-17 Thread Guille Rmo
Hi Furicle. I understand you are not a develope and thus you have a hard time using docker, node.js, etc. However, TW5 is actually easy to use without servers and development tools. You just save the web page with ctrl + s and then you open it again. As simple as that. This is one of the most

[tw] Re: A Rant

2017-11-17 Thread Diego Mesa
Do you guys think it would be useful to move this discussion to github under a "Improve New User Onboarding Experience" issue? That way we can have a larger discussion and perhaps generate some action items? On Friday, November 17, 2017 at 9:03:26 AM UTC-6, Guille Rmo wrote: > > Hi Furicle. I un

[tw] Re: A Rant

2017-11-17 Thread Abraham Samma
Seconded On Friday, November 17, 2017 at 7:12:27 PM UTC+3, Diego Mesa wrote: > > Do you guys think it would be useful to move this discussion to > github under a "Improve New User Onboarding Experience" issue? That way we > can have a larger discussion and perhaps generate some action items? > >

[tw] Re: A Rant

2017-11-17 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki
Actually you can't save with Ctl-S. If you do the resulting file will be corrupted. You have to use the Save checkmark button inside of TW. Good luck -- Mark On Friday, November 17, 2017 at 7:03:26 AM UTC-8, Guille Rmo wrote: > > Hi Furicle. I understand you are not a develope and thus you have

[tw] Re: A Rant

2017-11-17 Thread JD
This has been mentioned before, but couldn't the community agree to use a different, multi-user wiki for the help file, or manual, or watchamacallit... At least, while TW5 remains single-user and incapable of that task? I'm thinking of wiki-how and fandom community wikis, for example, whose c

[tw] Re: A Rant

2017-11-17 Thread Ste Wilson
We do have a Reddit... (Cheers again Riz) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send emai

[tw] Re: A Rant

2017-11-17 Thread Riz
Thank you Ste. Yes, we do have reddit. Much of the features demanded in the couple of threads have been met in there. For eg: 1) It is free. 2) We can tag and categorize the posts. We can also tag/flair users. If you click on a tag, it will show all the posts with same tag. Especially usefu

[tw] Re: A Rant

2017-11-17 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki
The main thing that I don't like about reddit is that it seems to have been built as a forum for debate. The problem is, you can't re-edit an item. This seems a bit limiting. -- Mark On Friday, November 17, 2017 at 10:45:47 AM UTC-8, Riz wrote: > > Thank you Ste. > > Yes, we do have reddit. Mu

[tw] Re: A Rant

2017-11-17 Thread JD
Wow, I've forgotten about the subreddit! When I first started using TW5 that's where I usually looked for information. The trouble I had with it is, it's mostly just plugin-posts, not much discussion (actual discussion is probably hard to do there). Is the subreddit more of a plugin directory?

[tw] Re: A Rant

2017-11-18 Thread Riz
> Is the subreddit more of a plugin directory? I can understand why people would think that. It was initially started as a possible alternative to google group. There was a demand for a forum where people can categorize the posts, upvote on favorite responses, will have a wiki and multiple m

[tw] Re: A Rant

2017-11-18 Thread @TiddlyTweeter
Ciao Riz The work you did on Reddit is immense. I was a big pusher for change. But I did NOTHING practical. Shame on me (well, apart from Twitter). I STILL think we are left with very UNKEMPT systems. And as it gets yet more complex and interestingly rich it gets even worse for a beginner, I

[tw] Re: A Rant

2017-11-20 Thread James A Bernard
As a short term work-a-round, try Waterfox, its like firefox but its keeping the plugins. Tiddlyfox work well. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email t

Re: [tw] Re: A Rant

2017-11-17 Thread Abraham Samma
There's TW5's github repository wiki. On Fri, Nov 17, 2017 at 9:11 PM, JD wrote: > This has been mentioned before, but couldn't the community agree to use a > different, multi-user wiki for the help file, or manual, or > watchamacallit... At least, while TW5 remains single-user and incapable