[tw] Re: ANN: TagsplorerMacro released

2010-04-16 Thread overett1
I intentionally only support excludeLists to reduce complexity. I believe there was talk of someone forking the plugin to allow for more sophisticated exclusion, but that hasn't happened yet. tagsplorer exclude:foo does work to exclude tiddlers tagged with foo from the filtered list, or have I

[tw] Re: ANN: TagsplorerMacro released

2010-04-16 Thread Mike
The current exclude parameter will accept (1) tag ie exclude:foo or exclude:'my tag' it does not support multiple tags (yet) Mike On Apr 16, 6:53 am, Anthony Muscio anthony.mus...@gmail.com wrote: But what about tagsplorer exclude:foo exclude:bar task urgent TonyM If you have not found

Re: [tw] Re: ANN: TagsplorerMacro released

2010-04-15 Thread Anthony Muscio
I found source at http://svn.tiddlywiki.org/Trunk/contributors/FND/plugins/TagsplorerMacro.js placed in a tiddler and I see the Exclude: parameter but It is not what I was suggesting in my last email. *I understand the current behavior to be* tagsplorer Shows you all tiddlers and NEW allows you

[tw] Re: ANN: TagsplorerMacro released

2010-04-15 Thread Mike
I have the exclude parameter on my to do list, as a project to learn more about JS and macro parameters, so I am taking my time (and I get easily distracted by other project ideas) feel free to create a patch and post it here if you have the time, otherwise I will continue to work in that

Re: [tw] Re: ANN: TagsplorerMacro released

2010-04-15 Thread Anthony Muscio
Thanks FND, It has been inspirational the possibilities and I do hope a Fork as per my suggestions is developed. It dose apply pressure once again for me to learn java script as I would love to share the load and take such tools that little bit further to Awesome Status. Without making this

Re: [tw] Re: ANN: TagsplorerMacro released

2010-04-14 Thread Anthony Muscio
Folks, Without me Trawling all these Posts can anyone tell me how to find the latest version of the tagsplorer plugin ? I am very impressed with the possibilities and functionality of the one linked to in the first email, in this thread ! Also Has the question been put to add a Not Tag list

Re: [tw] Re: ANN: TagsplorerMacro released

2010-04-13 Thread FND
Not sure if you have already addressed this, but in my document the tag selection popup was not closing after a selection was made I had noticed this as well - while it is strange, it turned out to be quite useful sometimes, so I didn't fix it immediately. Thanks for the reminder though, as

[tw] Re: ANN: TagsplorerMacro released

2010-04-13 Thread Mike
Awesome ! I didn't know the core tag chooser had that option, but I will probably use that now. . . (I learn something new everyday) Mike On Apr 13, 3:06 pm, FND f...@gmx.net wrote: Not sure if you have already addressed this, but in my document the tag selection popup was not closing after

[tw] Re: ANN: TagsplorerMacro released

2010-04-12 Thread Mike
FND, Not sure if you have already addressed this, but in my document the tag selection popup was not closing after a selection was made (I assume you can find a better way to patch this) (ff3.5 winXP - in case it is a browser related issue) My Patch: onTagClick: function(ev) {

Re: [tw] Re: ANN: TagsplorerMacro released

2010-04-06 Thread FND
Is there any particular reason why the IncludePlugin doesn't support getTiddlers - it sounds like perhaps it should? [...] According to the comments in the source code it's because getTiddlers is used for saving, and the idea of ImportPlugin is that external tiddlers are imported but not saved.

[tw] Re: ANN: TagsplorerMacro released

2010-04-06 Thread overett1
Is there any particular reason why the IncludePlugin doesn't support getTiddlers - it sounds like perhaps it should? [...] According to the comments in the source code it's because getTiddlers is used for saving, and the idea of ImportPlugin is that external tiddlers are imported but

Re: [tw] Re: ANN: TagsplorerMacro released

2010-04-02 Thread FND
[...] implement those fancy image-less arrows It seems there is no clean (as in KISS) way to achieve this. So I settled for subtle rounded corners (supported by modern browsers, degrades gracefully) - not perfect, but an improvement I guess: http://fnd.lewcid.org/misc/jQueryAPI.html -- F.

[tw] Re: ANN: TagsplorerMacro released

2010-04-01 Thread Tobias Beer
The new css border styling looks good + it's much cleaner than hard- coding, semantically useless separators. Tobias. On 31 Mrz., 14:25, FND f...@gmx.net wrote: it is very difficult to tell how many tags this is and exactly what they are. I suggest a separator between tags, such as pipe

[tw] Re: ANN: TagsplorerMacro released

2010-04-01 Thread overett1
To ensure tiddlers included using IncludePlugin are listed, it would be good if the first line of the getTiddlers function could use reverseLookup, so: var tiddlers = store.reverseLookup(title, excludeTag); I've also added a cross after the tags by amending refreshTags as follows:

Re: [tw] Re: ANN: TagsplorerMacro released

2010-04-01 Thread FND
I admit that I wasn't sure about a seperator - untill I saw the css arrows (delicious style) I think that would be awesome I haven't had time to look into this yet, and probably won't for a while. CSS wizardry contributions (or research into prior art) would be most welcome... The new css

[tw] Re: ANN: TagsplorerMacro released

2010-04-01 Thread overett1
Is there any particular reason why the IncludePlugin doesn't support getTiddlers - it sounds like perhaps it should? (I'm not intimately familiar with that particular plugin.) According to the comments in the source code it's because getTiddlers is used for saving, and the idea of ImportPlugin

[tw] Re: ANN: TagsplorerMacro released

2010-03-31 Thread twgrp
Actually, I realized other separators are probably clearer such as a (vertically centered) bullet or a simple . Indicates a gradual refinement/path. A more subtle version of is › (ref number 155 here http://www.ascii-code.com/ ) Still think some color contrast is a good idea. (Procrastinating

Re: [tw] Re: ANN: TagsplorerMacro released

2010-03-31 Thread FND
it is very difficult to tell how many tags this is and exactly what they are. I suggest a separator between tags, such as pipe surrounded by spaces I'd experimented with this, but didn't come up with a satisfying solution. Instead of adding an extra character (separation of concerns and all),

[tw] Re: ANN: TagsplorerMacro released

2010-03-31 Thread Mike
I admit that I wasn't sure about a seperator - untill I saw the css arrows (delicious style) I think that would be awesome in low contrast. and it would add a bit of style w/ function.. .. Mike On Mar 31, 7:25 am, FND f...@gmx.net wrote: it is very difficult to tell how many tags this is and

[tw] Re: ANN: TagsplorerMacro released

2010-03-30 Thread twgrp
Another minor suggestion; The problem becomes particularly obvious when viewing http://fnd.lewcid.org/misc/jQueryAPI.html and adding e.g the tag DOM Insertion, Inside resulting in a tags list that looks like; jQuery API DOM Insertion, Inside Unless placing the mouse directly over a tag there, it

Re: [tw] Re: ANN: TagsplorerMacro released

2010-03-29 Thread FND
Would like to se a re-focus onto that top field, ie. to where the chosen tags are listed. Currently, after selecting a second tag from a longer(!) list as in your supplied example, the focus is set to the top of the resulting list. I'm guessing this should addess that issue:

[tw] Re: ANN: TagsplorerMacro released

2010-03-29 Thread overett1
When using TagsplorerMacro in a tiddlywiki run as an HTA file (with IE6 as the browser), any click on the list of tags or the [+] button leads to a blank window being opened. I fixed this by adding 'return false;' at the end of any function that did not return a value (handler, newTagClick,

Re: [tw] Re: ANN: TagsplorerMacro released

2010-03-29 Thread FND
I fixed this by adding 'return false;' at the end of any function that did not return a value (handler, newTagClick, onTagClick, delTag, refreshTags and refreshTiddlers). Good catch - those returns got lost in some early refactoring. Fixed now: http://trac.tiddlywiki.org/changeset/11913 -- F.

[tw] Re: ANN: TagsplorerMacro released

2010-03-29 Thread Mike
Thank You FND, great answers + awesome plugin + a new project for me :) I appreciate your patience, Mike P.S. Can anyone reccomend a good JQuery book - websites are good, I just learn better from a old school book (which will probably be slightly out dated) On Mar 29, 7:16 am, FND f...@gmx.net

[tw] Re: ANN: TagsplorerMacro released

2010-03-28 Thread Mike
Found a minor bug in the v1.2.0 tagsplorer (no parameters) returns a error. . .(type error: tags is undefined) Example: http://www.strm.us/tw/examples_twgg/tagsplorer.h1 On Mar 27, 5:07 am, FND f...@gmx.net wrote: I would still like to add a excludeLists parameter, but it is beyond my

[tw] Re: ANN: TagsplorerMacro released

2010-03-28 Thread Mike
one more addition. . . can you exclude multiple tags? My testings says no, but I may have the syntax wrong. . . Great Work, need to compare v1.1 vs v1.2 to figure how you did it :P Have a good day, Mike On Mar 27, 5:07 am, FND f...@gmx.net wrote: I would still like to add a excludeLists

Re: [tw] Re: ANN: TagsplorerMacro released

2010-03-27 Thread FND
I would still like to add a excludeLists parameter, but it is beyond my capabilities right now, I need to spend some time building some simple macros w/ parameters before I can tackle this Isolating the problem sounds like a good plan. I was gonna give you some sample code, but then went ahead

[tw] Re: ANN: TagsplorerMacro released

2010-03-27 Thread twgrp
No biggie, but still: Would like to se a re-focus onto that top field, ie. to where the chosen tags are listed. Currently, after selecting a second tag from a longer(!) list as in your supplied example, the focus is set to the top of the resulting list. On Mar 27, 11:07 am, FND f...@gmx.net

[tw] Re: ANN: TagsplorerMacro released

2010-03-26 Thread twgrp
I guess it's a matter of aesthetics, or maybe it's for another plugin all together, but I'm throwing out this idea; Expand the concept to become a kind of semi-visual boolean filter for tags, i.e other than just the current AND operator, start off the drop down tags list by listing the basic

[tw] Re: ANN: TagsplorerMacro released

2010-03-25 Thread Mike
Question: If using the config.options method to change variables (IE my excludeLists hack) http://www.strm.us/tw/examples_twgg/tagsplorer.h1 how can I specify that when the status of the cookie changes to refresh Display (would Display work in this context?) Maybe I am in left field with my

[tw] Re: ANN: TagsplorerMacro released

2010-03-24 Thread Mike
I feel like I cheated. . . I was having problems adding a parameter (and not messing up the tags parameter) so I opted for a configuration cookie. . . http://www.strm.us/tw/examples_twgg/tagsplorer.h1 Let me know if this is a taboo solution. (might also be a solution for adding sort order

[tw] Re: ANN: TagsplorerMacro released

2010-03-24 Thread Mike
passingby, I think the default usage may still be a little confusing, the macro by itself returns all tiddlers, by clicking new (+) you add a filter from the dropdown which then shows only tiddlers with that tag, adding additional filters continues to reduce the tiddler list. the demo shows the

[tw] Re: ANN: TagsplorerMacro released

2010-03-23 Thread Mike
Starting here. . . http://www.strm.us/tw/examples_twgg/tagsplorer.h1 Will work on excludeLists parameter tomorrow :P (Finishing may be another subject) Mike On Mar 22, 9:45 pm, passingby passingby...@gmail.com wrote: It took me some time to figure out but its great once one gets it. There are

[tw] Re: ANN: TagsplorerMacro released

2010-03-22 Thread Tobias Beer
Also, I think new isn't the best label for that button. Perhaps any of the following would be more intuitive. - [+] - filter - add (filter) - select (filter) Tobias. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send

[tw] Re: ANN: TagsplorerMacro released

2010-03-22 Thread Tobias Beer
Another thought... I think it might be quite powerfull to have a different dropdown (or alternatively more than one)... one that can be configured in a way so that one can (optionally) define a bracketed list of toplevel-tags or main-tags... which will then give you a kind of treelike dropdown

[tw] Re: ANN: TagsplorerMacro released

2010-03-22 Thread Eric Shulman
I think it might be quite powerfull to have a different dropdown (or alternatively more than one)... one that can be configured in a way so that one can (optionally) define a bracketed list of toplevel-tags or main-tags... which will then give you a kind of treelike dropdown with all those

[tw] Re: ANN: TagsplorerMacro released

2010-03-22 Thread Mike
any other thoughts on excludeLists? I am going to have some spare time this week and might play with it . . . Mike On Mar 22, 7:29 am, Eric Shulman elsdes...@gmail.com wrote: I think it might be quite powerfull to have a different dropdown (or alternatively more than one)... one that can be

Re: [tw] Re: ANN: TagsplorerMacro released

2010-03-22 Thread FND
Thanks for the feedback, everyone. any other thoughts on excludeLists? I am going to have some spare time this week and might play with it Your suggested patch seems quite elegant. (I haven't actually tested it yet.) I agree that it needs to be an optional parameter (not entirely sure about

[tw] Re: ANN: TagsplorerMacro released

2010-03-22 Thread passingby
It took me some time to figure out but its great once one gets it. There are still two questions though: 1. In the demo tiddler, when i remove a tag by clicking on it, it gets added to the list below, which is fine. But when the very last tag is removed two things happen, the list below gets

Re: [tw] Re: ANN: TagsplorerMacro released

2010-03-21 Thread FND
looks very nice Thanks. It could certainly do with some improvements, as it doesn't seem very intuitive at the moment - so I'm hoping someone with a better sense of UI design will come along and offer suggestions... was your concept to use it as a menu? Or as a new way to navigate? The

Re: [tw] Re: ANN: TagsplorerMacro released

2010-03-21 Thread FND
I've started experimenting with this on TiddlyWeb documentation, which proved useful and led to some unexpected insights I've now also applied this to the jQuery API docs*, which seems even more useful (due to the excellent metadata): http://fnd.lewcid.org/misc/jQueryAPI.html -- F. *

[tw] Re: ANN: TagsplorerMacro released

2010-03-21 Thread Mike
I can see it functioning a little better inside a larger document ! So it creates a tags filter showing relevant information, with the option to add additional filters to drill down further (from menu bar via new button) or remove filters to drill out (from menu bar via click tag name) somehow I

Re: [tw] Re: ANN: TagsplorerMacro released

2010-03-21 Thread FND
So it creates a tags filter showing relevant information, with the option to add additional filters to drill down further (from menu bar via new button) or remove filters to drill out I guess that's how I should have explained it in the first place... Thanks. somehow I got a prompt box

[tw] Re: ANN: TagsplorerMacro released

2010-03-21 Thread Mike
I think this does the trick var getTiddlers = function(tags) { // var tiddlers = store.getTiddlers(); var tiddlers=store.getTiddlers('title','excludeLists'); My coding is beginner at best, (compared to others around here) luckily it was pretty simple. . . Unless you were thinking of

[tw] Re: ANN: TagsplorerMacro released

2010-03-21 Thread Tobias Beer
Only careful observation of the tooltips made me understand what the exploring bits are actually about. I guess it's not so much the interface but the name which was a bit confusing to me. Wouldn't something like TagListFilter go better with it? Tobias. On 21 Mrz., 14:38, FND f...@gmx.net

[tw] Re: ANN: TagsplorerMacro released

2010-03-21 Thread PMario
hi On Mar 21, 10:50 pm, Tobias Beer beertob...@googlemail.com wrote: Only careful observation of the tooltips made me understand what the exploring bits are actually about. I guess it's not so much the interface but the name which was a bit confusing to me. Wouldn't something like

[tw] Re: ANN: TagsplorerMacro released

2010-03-21 Thread Mike
I agree excludeLists as an optional parameter would probably be better, would that be enough configuration, or are thinking something more robust? Mike On Mar 21, 5:19 pm, PMario pmari...@gmail.com wrote: hi On Mar 21, 10:50 pm, Tobias Beer beertob...@googlemail.com wrote: Only careful

[tw] Re: ANN: TagsplorerMacro released

2010-03-21 Thread Mike
might also look at changing macro name / tooltip to be more informative (plugin name doesn't matter much to me) the more I play with the plugin the more I like it. . . After initial hurdle it is very intuitive Mike On Mar 21, 5:19 pm, PMario pmari...@gmail.com wrote: hi On Mar 21, 10:50 pm,

[tw] Re: ANN: TagsplorerMacro released

2010-03-21 Thread Mike
I agree excludeLists as an optional parameter would probably be better, (than my code above) I was thinking a true / false type option would that be enough configuration, or are you thinking something more robust? Mike On Mar 21, 5:45 pm, Mike eris...@gmail.com wrote: might also look at