Re: [TMIC] Anybody else been there?

2008-11-23 Thread kevin weilacher
Subject: Re: [TMIC] Anybody else been there?  Jeanne, I took a lot of convincing to take the anti depressants and only did because I've known my doctor for many many years. I'm so pleased he convinced me, they have been wonderful for me and since TMer's have the highest percentage

Re: [TMIC] Anybody else been there?

2008-11-23 Thread Pieter and Heather
Gilly, Very well put. I know that I now live a 'new normal'. I have had to let go of a lot of things too. Heather in Calgary - Original Message - From: Gillian Clark To: TM list Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2008 11:44 PM Subject: Re: [TMIC] Anybody else been

Re: [TMIC] Anybody else been there?

2008-11-23 Thread jrushton
In response to: Gilly, Very well put. I know that I now live a 'new normal'. I have had to let go of a lot of things too. Heather in Calgary Heather and Gilly, I don't know about all of our 'new normal' family (and that is such a great way to put it!) but I do know that from the very

Re: [TMIC] Anybody else been there?

2008-11-23 Thread jrushton
Gilly, you sure have that right!! As much as I loved my job, there just is no way I could do it so that door had to be closed and the door that seems to have been opened was the ability to truly appreciate a life of total freedom and peace out here and the best of all was that Jack and I have

Re: [TMIC] Anybody else been there?

2008-11-23 Thread Jan Hargrove
Jeanne,    You have found the secret to continuing to live! and in a manner that makes it fun for others to be with you    Most of all you've learned to accept those things we cannot change!   What a pity that anyone would just wallow in the what if attitude!!  Laughter is the best

Re: [TMIC] Anybody else been there?

2008-11-23 Thread Linda
than some... Let's all have a very, very Happy Thanksgivingand be just that...THANKFUL!!! --- On Sun, 11/23/08, Jan Hargrove [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Jan Hargrove [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [TMIC] Anybody else been there? To: jrushton [EMAIL PROTECTED], tmic-list tmic-list@eskimo.com

Re: [TMIC] Anybody else been there?

2008-11-23 Thread jrushton
In response to: Your description of your family carrying you through the sand made me laugh so hard I almost wet my pants, which isn’t hard to do these days. This bring up a question I would like to ask you. I know as a fellow TMer you won’t be offended. As a lot of us. I am incontinent.

Re: [TMIC] Anybody else been there?

2008-11-23 Thread Gillian Clark
caregiver. hugs Gilly - Original Message - From: kevin weilacher To: Gillian Clark ; TM list Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 12:34 AM Subject: Re: [TMIC] Anybody else been there? Hi Gilly, It's Kevin here...one in the same from the TM Network and also Facebook... I just

Re: [TMIC] Anybody else been there?

2008-11-23 Thread Gillian Clark
Yep Jeanne, I am more than happy to be a retiree and just chill and smell the roses. - Original Message - From: jrushton To: Gillian Clark ; TMIC Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 1:33 AM Subject: Re: [TMIC] Anybody else been there? Gilly, you sure have that right

Re: [TMIC] Anybody else been there?

2008-11-22 Thread Gillian Clark
: jrushton To: Gillian Clark ; TMIC Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2008 10:48 AM Subject: Re: [TMIC] Anybody else been there? Just a note on the antidepressants... When I was in ICU and getting ready to be discharged the neurologist insisted that I do not be without them. He said people

RE: [TMIC] Anybody else been there?

2008-11-21 Thread Tracey L. Black
] Anybody else been there? Absolutely, Jan! Gilly offended no one! I spoke out as a caregiver in hopes that those of you that want to hear my perspective, can ponder it... Sandy One site has it all. Your email accounts, your social networks, and the things you

Re: [TMIC] Anybody else been there?

2008-11-21 Thread Gillian Clark
, November 21, 2008 11:00 AM Subject: FW: [TMIC] Anybody else been there? I am happy to have people that understand what it is like to be in pain 24/7. And now, with the winter setting in, just walking in the cold is hard enough, never mind the winter boots and the weight they add

Fw: FW: [TMIC] Anybody else been there?

2008-11-21 Thread Gillian Clark
. hugs Gilly - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Janet Dunn ; tmic-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, November 21, 2008 12:10 PM Subject: Re: FW: [TMIC] Anybody else been there? Well here is my two cents The nerve damage is so bad in my feet I can't wear shoes

Fw: [TMIC] Anybody else been there?

2008-11-21 Thread Gillian Clark
have different levels of pain tolerance. It's a chit of a thing isn't it? hugs Gilly - Original Message - From: jrushton To: Gillian Clark ; tmic Sent: Friday, November 21, 2008 10:45 AM Subject: [TMIC] Anybody else been there? Gilly, bless your heart.. Do not worry

Re: [TMIC] Anybody else been there?

2008-11-20 Thread Heyjude48458
Hello All, Don't we remember how much it hurts to stub one's toe? I do...it hurts like hell for a few minutes. And, no...on the scale of TM, a stubbed toe is nothing, but for those few minutes it is something to the person it happens to. My husband is my only caretaker as we

RE: [TMIC] Anybody else been there?

2008-11-20 Thread Patricia Cooley
: Re: [TMIC] Anybody else been there? Ahhh Rob, I hear you, as they say in the classics! I feel it so hard to be empathetic these days when someone (usually Trev) complains of minor ailments. I also get people coming to me to explain all their woes and I'm just so over it! I have noticed

Re: [TMIC] Anybody else been there?

2008-11-20 Thread Parkerswebe
First off, Jude suffers so much and what she wrote is so selfLESS. She is always thinking of someone else. We love you Jude! As a caregiver I will put my 2 cents in. I SO sympathize with the daily pain that goes with TM. I KNOW, but I don't FEEL the pain. I know it because Terry

RE: [TMIC] Anybody else been there?

2008-11-20 Thread jrushton
Date: 11/20/2008 7:06:15 AM To: jrushton Subject: RE: [TMIC] Anybody else been there? Jeanne...both you and Tobe have made me feel less alone...to me that is what this list is all about...people who truly understand! Thanks Rob From: jrushton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday

Re: [TMIC] Anybody else been there?

2008-11-20 Thread jrushton
So perfectly put, Sandy. What a wonderful caregiver you must be! I live with one, also, and he spoils me rotten! I am so blessed... Jeanne in Dayton, WA

RE: [TMIC] Anybody else been there?

2008-11-20 Thread Tracey L. Black
]; tmic-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [TMIC] Anybody else been there? First off, Jude suffers so much and what she wrote is so selfLESS. She is always thinking of someone else. We love you Jude! As a caregiver I will put my 2 cents in. I SO sympathize with the daily pain that goes with TM. I

Re: [TMIC] Anybody else been there?

2008-11-20 Thread Gillian Clark
I'm sure. much love to you all Gilly - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TMIC-LIST@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 7:07 PM Subject: Re: [TMIC] Anybody else been there? Hello All, Don't we remember how much it hurts to stub one's toe

Re: [TMIC] Anybody else been there?

2008-11-20 Thread Jan Hargrove
          Gilly,   No need to apologize or even explain!!  I bet if truth be known, each of us has at LEAST one in-law (or out-law) who must tell each breath they take and the pain it causes them...am also certain they have no idea what a pain!! they are. Venting is allowed here! 

Re: [TMIC] Anybody else been there?

2008-11-20 Thread JHarper33
Oh, Gilly, I don't think you upset anyone -- I think we've all been having a great conversation seeing things from both sides. We have a relative like that, too -- it IS always about her (in her mind), no matter what else is going on with anyone else. When someone in her family had a

Re: [TMIC] Anybody else been there?

2008-11-20 Thread Jan Hargrove
Sandy,   I just told a friend whose hubby had failed rapidly and is now gone, that I knew how much she did for him, while letting her ailments take a backseat.  I told her that I knew how lucky Roy had been having her as his caretakerand that I knew how important that was for both of

[TMIC] Anybody else been there?

2008-11-20 Thread Parkerswebe
Oh Jan! You just always brighten my day. You seem like you are always so positive and under duress from TM! Thank you so much. Wow! I've become active again on the forum. We go thru those lulls where some things don't always pertain. This forum has helped me so much, (I am

Re: [TMIC] Anybody else been there?

2008-11-20 Thread Alle111
I had to look to see if I started this message. LOL My sister broke her toe 3 weeks ago and said she had to stay in bed for 2 days because it hurt. It was a bad day for pain for me when she told me and I had to apologize the next day because I told her...excuse my for being indifferrent but I

Re: FW: [TMIC] Anybody else been there?

2008-11-20 Thread kimr1999
need another vacation. Janet From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: November 19, 2008 11:29 PMTo: tmic-list@eskimo.comSubject: Re: [TMIC] Anybody else been there? I totally agree with all the comments. I also know that if we didn't have this list to be able to communicate wit

Re: [TMIC] Anybody else been there?

2008-11-20 Thread jrushton
Hi, Sandy! Good to see your name here, too! What fun that Facebook is!! I think sometimes the caregivers/spouses might forget that TM'ers certainly didn't choose to have this situation and whoever said that we look fine on the outside but oh, the inside is another story, said it perfectly.

[TMIC] Anybody else been there?

2008-11-19 Thread Robert Pall
My wife has been sick for around 5 days with a sore throat/cough (she is getting better). Anyway she asks me last night if I ever recall her feeling bad this long..what I should have answered was no...which is truebut instead I answered imagine how it feels to be sick for more than

Re: [TMIC] Anybody else been there?

2008-11-19 Thread Todd Tarno
PROTECTED] wrote: From: Robert Pall [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [TMIC] Anybody else been there? To: tmic tmic-list@eskimo.com Date: Wednesday, November 19, 2008, 8:59 AM     My wife has been sick for around 5 days with a sore throat/cough (she is getting better). Anyway she asks me last night if I

Re: [TMIC] Anybody else been there?

2008-11-19 Thread T Kanon
PROTECTED] wrote: From: Robert Pall [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [TMIC] Anybody else been there? To: tmic tmic-list@eskimo.com Date: Wednesday, November 19, 2008, 9:59 AM     My wife has been sick for around 5 days with a sore throat/cough (she is getting better). Anyway she asks me last night

Re: [TMIC] Anybody else been there?

2008-11-19 Thread jrushton
Rob, I didn't get your message but reading Tobe's I just needed to tell you that could not have said it any better! Jack is always saying he would not be able to live with the TM like I do, as we all do, but everyone does what he or she has to. We try to keep the best attitudes we possibly

Re: [TMIC] Anybody else been there?

2008-11-19 Thread Gillian Clark
To: tmic Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 1:29 AM Subject: [TMIC] Anybody else been there? My wife has been sick for around 5 days with a sore throat/cough (she is getting better). Anyway she asks me last night if I ever recall her feeling bad this long..what I should have answered

Re: [TMIC] Anybody else been there?

2008-11-19 Thread kimr1999
, 11/19/08, Robert Pall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Robert Pall [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [TMIC] Anybody else been there?To: "tmic" tmic-list@eskimo.comDate: Wednesday, November 19, 2008, 9:59 AM My wife has been sick for around 5 days with a sore throat/cough (she is getting better).

Re: [TMIC] Anybody else been there?

2008-11-19 Thread jrushton
...and hugs to you, too, Gilly!! As a matter of fact, hugs to ALL of you Jeanne in Dayton

Re: [TMIC] Anybody else been there?

2008-11-19 Thread Balmatmic
I totally agree with all the comments. I also know that if we didn't have this list to be able to communicate with about our feelings and vent occasionally, we would be a lot harder to live with, and not as well off mentally. Then again, my anti-depressants help a lot too, lol. Once