Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Odd issue with my Touch (might be my DAC)

2011-01-24 Thread Griffin
Phil Leigh;604963 Wrote: > Well, having got all that theory out of the way, all I can say based on > over 25 years studio practice is that consumer s/pdif and AES/EBU turn > out to be completely interconnectable in practice under most > circumstances. I've NEVER damaged anything by connecting s/p

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 2.0

2011-01-24 Thread Gazjam
Gazjam;605012 Wrote: > Currently running Klaus's 2.0 mods and I tried to run ttvol 100 and hit > a problem. > > I unpacked the tar file in the proper place, but I'm getting an "error > 126:Permission denied" error? > > Any ideas? > > > Thanks. Uhm... I'll just run Erlands patch. ta. -- G

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 2.0

2011-01-24 Thread soundcheck
magiccarpetride;605025 Wrote: > Back in the days when I was using Squeezebox Duet, I had certain issues > with the sound quality of that player. I felt something was not quite > right with the sound. After digging through the Squeezebox server on > the PC, I've 'discovered' the config option to d

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Is my Touch broken?

2011-01-24 Thread Mnyb
You did not try to use the "phono" input if it has one , that one is only made for Lp players and their pickups a line level signal is a couple of 1000 time to strong to begin with and then it is the riaa eq. -- Mnyb Main hif

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] squeezebox classic vs touch

2011-01-24 Thread Mnyb
Also 7.6 lets you customize screens on the Touch but it's done via the context menu , not configured on the server. -- Mnyb Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J MeridianHD621 MeridianG98DH and assorted amps SiriuS, Classe'

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 2.0

2011-01-24 Thread Mnyb
pippin;604935 Wrote: > This seems to be a regionally different philosophy. > In Germany, Switzerland and Austria almost exclusively shielded cables > are being used (mostly the simple type, F/UTP, with a shield around the > whole cable, not the pair). > > Good equipment should take care of that

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Playing sky fm premium on touch

2011-01-24 Thread Ikabob
I am not sure what the touch screen says... Sorry. But if you play a Sky.fm station and go to "more information" and see if your bitrate is 256KPSes then you are getting the premium feed. I do not use the touch screen so I do not know if it says "premium" or not. I use mainly ipeng as a controller

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Playing sky fm premium on touch

2011-01-24 Thread aln
I do have sky fm on the touch but it does'nt mention about it being "premium"...should it state "premium on touch screen? It does state "premium" on winamp player only. Thanks. AL. -- aln aln's Profile: http://forums.slimd

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Playing sky fm premium on touch

2011-01-24 Thread Ikabob
I believe that since the Swueezeboxes are dedicated players forSky.fm, it is not necessary to manually copy and paste stations. All that is necessary is to register with Sky.fm, choose the 192kps selection. Then install the Sky.fm app from the App Gallery at mysqueezebox.com by entering your usern

[SlimDevices: Touch] Playing sky fm premium on touch

2011-01-24 Thread aln
I've just upgraded to "premium" at sky fm and after spending frustreting hours i just can't seem to make it play on the touch. Here's what i'm trying to do with no success from sky fm website Wrote: > Hardware Players > > For hardware players that require adding

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] squeezebox classic vs touch

2011-01-24 Thread aubuti
ahem, yes there is. Look in the nightly directory (it's beta, so it updates every night). Also, if you don't like the VU and spectrum you can eliminate them from the cycle of Now Playing screens. -- aubuti aubuti's Profil

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 2.0

2011-01-24 Thread bluegaspode
magiccarpetride;605049 Wrote: > Every now and then, if one is fortunate enough, one meets a person with > extremely broad views. I'm glad we've met on this forum -- you've given > me an example of what it means to be completely open minded. I'm even willing to accept by now, that all other mods

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 2.0

2011-01-24 Thread pippin
Phil Leigh;604965 Wrote: > oooh - that is very interesting... > We wouldn't generally think of using shielded ethernet cables to > connect SB's or PC's to routers...hmmm You simply won't get others over here, except for that occasional patch cable that comes with your hardware. I have to say th

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] squeezebox classic vs touch

2011-01-24 Thread th00ht
ahem, there is no 7.6 on http://downloads.slimdevices.com where can I download it? -- th00ht SqueezeBox v3 Squeezebox Server 7.4.2 - 30215 / Archlinux Quad 303 + Two Quad Electrostats 'last.fm' (http://www.last.fm/user/th00ht) --

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] squeezebox classic vs touch

2011-01-24 Thread th00ht
Thanks Peter, and Phil, So let's see if someone has made a package for Archlinux. . . . Not really. oh bummer. have no time right now to do this. -- th00ht SqueezeBox v3 Squeezebox Server 7.4.2 - 30215 / Archlinux Quad 303 + Two Quad Electrostats 'last.fm' (http://www.last.fm/user/th00ht) -

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] How to lock audio output at 100% (I think)

2011-01-24 Thread Mnyb
yes but as Bluegaspode found out the other day it does not actually defeat replay gain and crossfade.. ;) RG and xfade is in compiled C elsewhere You can try it, fix volume at 100% activate xfade cue up a DTS track, now you have a waterfall the first and last seconds off each tune :) You st

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Odd issue with my Touch (might be my DAC)

2011-01-24 Thread Mnyb
Yep it is typically simplified to 6dB per bit 20*log2*bits +1,76 Code: bits Theoretical typically Quoted S/N 16 98.0896 17 104.1102 18 110.12 108 19 116.14 114 20 122.16

[SlimDevices: Touch] Searching for advice of usb use

2011-01-24 Thread PatLogan
Hi there, I have a SB Duet but my PLC are broken and I do not want to use my PC anymore, hence the idea of a SB touch. I have about 200 Go of flac files on an external usb drive. I have read in some places that a SB Touch is very slow with the usb drive if the capacity is a bit large. Any advice w

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Is my Touch broken?

2011-01-24 Thread ralphpnj
Dura;605039 Wrote: > D*mn, I did some extra experimenting this afternoon, just before packing > it and it worked ok with a headphone??? > Turns out one of the inputs on my amps is defect. > The good news I've got music, the other inputs are still okay, the bad > news of course is that my belove

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 2.0

2011-01-24 Thread magiccarpetride
chill;605044 Wrote: > Ah well, you see, expectation bias works both ways I suppose. Just as > you're convinced that Klaus' mods are going to have profound effects, I > am convinced by an explanation of what the volume maximising code does > that it can't. I'm simply not going to waste my time.

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Odd issue with my Touch (might be my DAC)

2011-01-24 Thread Phil Leigh
Rick58;605046 Wrote: > I guess I need to remember this! The 840C (not SOTA, but pretty darn > good) is ">113dB S/N (A weighted)" which if I'm doing it correctly is > about 19 bits. > http://www.cambridgeaudio.com/specifications.php?PID=112&Title=Specifications yep - you got it! -- Phil Leigh

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] How to lock audio output at 100% (I think)

2011-01-24 Thread Phil Leigh
peterw;539626 Wrote: > UPDATE: \"PATCH INSTALLER\" PATCH AVAILABLE.[/B] > FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO WANT YOUR TOUCH TO ALWAYS PLAY AT 100%, TRY EITHER > OF THE FOLLOWING METHODS. AFTER YOU'VE DONE THIS, TOUCH WILL BEHAVE LIKE > A SQUEEZEBOX CLASSIC WITH ITS VOLUME CONTROL DISABLED -- YOU'LL SEE > ONS

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 2.0

2011-01-24 Thread chill
magiccarpetride;605031 Wrote: > Again, I simply don't understand people who can't seem capable of > relying on their own judgment. Ah well, you see, expectation bias works both ways I suppose. Just as you're convinced that Klaus' mods are going to have profound effects, I am convinced by an exp

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Odd issue with my Touch (might be my DAC)

2011-01-24 Thread Rick58
Phil Leigh;605036 Wrote: > the 24-bit bitstream is simply truncated by your dac - the lowest 4 bits > are ignored. It will still sound fine (even the best consumer dacs can > only resolve 21 bits anyway!) I guess I need to remember this! The 840C (not > SOTA, but pretty darn good) is ">113dB S/N

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 2.0

2011-01-24 Thread bluegaspode
magiccarpetride;605031 Wrote: > Why can't they trust their own ears? Because the last mod did nothing, nada, niente (if your volume was at 100% before). The Touch is doing the exact same thing (applying the max volume to the material either with the mod or because the volume was at 100% anyway)

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Is my Touch broken?

2011-01-24 Thread Dura
D*mn, I did some extra experimenting this afternoon, just before packing it and it worked ok with a headphone??? Turns out one of the inputs on my amps is defect. The good news I've got music, the other inputs are still okay, the bad news of course is that my beloved perfect amp, a 12 year old p

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] squeezebox classic vs touch

2011-01-24 Thread peterw
th00ht;605035 Wrote: > > 2) it is not possible to fix the digital out's. They go to a sound > system that itself has volume controls so I have to volume control on > the Touch as well as on the stereo. Not sure how the Touch implements > attuniation of the digital outputs but I'm sure I loose bi

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] squeezebox classic vs touch

2011-01-24 Thread Phil Leigh
th00ht;605035 Wrote: > Treated myself on a squeeuzebox touch this weekend. The SB classic moved > to the study, the touch in the living. > > The touch is a great package. It really is a step forward from the > awkwardness of using a device with a remote control when on reaching > distance from i

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Odd issue with my Touch (might be my DAC)

2011-01-24 Thread Phil Leigh
congole;605024 Wrote: > I went through the discussion top-to-bottom since I experienced > something of a kind, but in the end I am not sure anymore if I > understood the root cause(s) and consequences from the posts. > To illustrate: I have a rather old/rare DAC (VTL straght line 1) > featuring

[SlimDevices: Touch] squeezebox classic vs touch

2011-01-24 Thread th00ht
Treated myself on a squeeuzebox touch this weekend. The SB classic moved to the study, the touch in the living. The touch is a great package. It really is a step forward from the awkwardness of using a device with a remote control when on reaching distance from it. With the Touch one can control

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Odd issue with my Touch (might be my DAC)

2011-01-24 Thread Mnyb
congole;605024 Wrote: > I went through the discussion top-to-bottom since I experienced > something of a kind, but in the end I am not sure anymore if I > understood the root cause(s) and consequences from the posts. > To illustrate: I have a rather old/rare DAC (VTL straght line 1) > featuring

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 2.0

2011-01-24 Thread magiccarpetride
chill;605029 Wrote: > Interesting threads these - both this one and the one concerning the > quality of the digital outputs over in the Audiophiles forum. > Unintentionally, I'm sure, they've told me a great deal about these > mods. If the one mod that can be shown categorically to have no effe

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 2.0

2011-01-24 Thread chill
diego;604877 Wrote: > However, in my opinion, one the biggest impact I got up to now, was > applying the newest sw mod of Klaus, the one that shuts off the volume > control. magiccarpetride;605025 Wrote: > Thanks Soundcheck, I'd say of all the mods you've given us thus far, > this one made the

[SlimDevices: Touch] Internet Radio Plug-in menu entries gone

2011-01-24 Thread DL1001
When I access the Internet Radio Plug-in on the Touch screen there is only BBC iPlayer present as options. It used to show 'Staff Picks', 'Local' etc. but not any more. I don't know what I've done. If I use the Squeezebox Server Web Remote Control facility to control the Touch then the web interfa

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 2.0

2011-01-24 Thread magiccarpetride
soundcheck;604461 Wrote: > Hi guys. > > > Yep, it's me once more. > > For those of you who're enjoying my Toolbox. > I launched a new tweak. (Perhaps we should call it something else, > you'll see what I mean later on) > > I talked about that mod respectively announced its effects earlier. ;

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Odd issue with my Touch (might be my DAC)

2011-01-24 Thread congole
I went through the discussion top-to-bottom since I experienced something of a kind, but in the end I am not sure anymore if I understood the root cause(s) and consequences from the posts. To illustrate: I have a rather old/rare DAC (VTL straght line 1) featuring a not so popular UltraAnalog chip

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] External USB memory - how?

2011-01-24 Thread djitts
For those of you who have helped and/or are interested, I thought I should tell my further adventures. I took the Toshiba 16GB sticks back to the store and they admitted hey had no clue as to why I should have these problems but they were kind enough to exchange them for another brand, Lexar. Le

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 2.0

2011-01-24 Thread Gazjam
Currently running Klaus's 2.0 mods and I tried to run ttvol 100 and hit a problem. I unpacked the tar file in the proper place, but I'm getting an "error 126:Permission denied" error? Any ideas? Thanks. -- Gazjam Gazja

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 2.0

2011-01-24 Thread sckramer
Hi, just fyi, I sure can't tell a bit of difference with ttvol100 or 100% vol, they are identical & can usually hear changes fairly easily on my sys-- this is a/b and extended over the weekend, to get used to the sound people must be comparing it to less than 100%, or they had it set lower by ac

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Playlists

2011-01-24 Thread Cut-Throat
OK, Got it ! - Thanks. I didn't noticed it, because it was 'grayed out'. -- Cut-Throat Cut-Throat's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=43167 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Playlists

2011-01-24 Thread Mnyb
Also installing the playlist manager plugin is cool then you can add to existing playlists via the context menu on the Touch -- Mnyb Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J MeridianHD621 MeridianG98DH and assorted amps SiriuS

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Playlists

2011-01-24 Thread Mnyb
Cut-Throat;604922 Wrote: > Just got my SB touch. Is there a way to create and save Playlists using > Squeezebox Server Web Control on my laptop? Yes if you are running a local server some where (not the built in in the Touch) You have the now playing list to your rigth now look at the bottom ri

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Odd issue with my Touch (might be my DAC)

2011-01-24 Thread Mnyb
The old meridian 518 sample-rate converter digital filter jitter dither whatnot thingy had a "pro" setting ? next popular standard deviation is AES over ethernet cables ? :) who has 100 ohm impedance in mHz range maybe they are close to 110 ohm in the frequencies used for digital audio , maybe

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 2.0

2011-01-24 Thread Phil Leigh
magiccarpetride;604971 Wrote: > Absolutely. we're in full agreement here:) Cool. -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... Touch(wired/XP) - TACT 2.2X (Linear PSU) + Good Vibrations S/W - MF Triplethreat(Audiocom full m

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 2.0

2011-01-24 Thread magiccarpetride
Phil Leigh;604859 Wrote: > Well obviously I agree with that - I'd say that was "having the courage > of your own conviction". > > Just as long as we can agree that it's OK for people to have different > opinions - provided they really are THEIR OWN opinions. Absolutely. we're in full agreement

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 2.0

2011-01-24 Thread Phil Leigh
pippin;604935 Wrote: > This seems to be a regionally different philosophy. > In Germany, Switzerland and Austria almost exclusively shielded cables > are being used (mostly the simple type, F/UTP, with a shield around the > whole cable, not the pair). > > Good equipment should take care of that

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Odd issue with my Touch (might be my DAC)

2011-01-24 Thread Phil Leigh
Griffin;604936 Wrote: > I'll stir the mud up again than... AES/EBU (= AES3) is not SPDIF. It > differs in more aspects from SPDIF than just the metadata; the > electrical interface is quite different. SPDIF uses unbalanced > electrical connections with a 0.5V amplitude, AES3 uses balanced or > un

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Odd issue with my Touch (might be my DAC)

2011-01-24 Thread Mnyb
Griffin;604936 Wrote: > I'll stir the mud up again than... AES/EBU (= AES3) is not SPDIF. It > differs in more aspects from SPDIF than just the metadata; the > electrical interface is quite different. SPDIF uses unbalanced > electrical connections with a 0.5V amplitude, AES3 uses balanced or > un

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] RSS news feeds as screensaver

2011-01-24 Thread erland
Bradley;604949 Wrote: > Erland: > > Is there a way for the rssText tag in the "Digital Clock with RSS" > style to pick up the RSS Text from the standard RSS News Feed plugin? > That way the feed on the touch matches the one on all my SB3's. > > Your thoughts? > > *B At the moment there is n

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Is my Touch broken?

2011-01-24 Thread dogsnadgers
If you are getting a loud hum it could mean that it is either not connected properly or the output is too high for your amp, but then you have used different amps, try a different input on the amp as some have different sensitivity. Are the interconnects touching and shorting out, disconnect one

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] RSS news feeds as screensaver

2011-01-24 Thread Bradley
erland;579991 Wrote: > Just for information to anyone interested in RSS as screen saver on > Touch/Radio/Controller. The latest version of Custom Clock applet and > Custom Clock Helper plugin now has support for a new rsstext item type > in their configuration. There is also a "RSS Text Feed" and

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Is my Touch broken?

2011-01-24 Thread ralphpnj
Just to eliminate the most obvious: Do your files play on your computer? What kind of files are they? flac, mp3, etc. Are they standard 2 channel stereo audio files and not multichannel audio files? Is the volume set at 100%? -- ralphpnj Lock, Stock and Two Smoking Barrels -> Snatch -> The Tr

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Odd issue with my Touch (might be my DAC)

2011-01-24 Thread Rick58
Griffin, thanks for the additional info! I only hope that since the 'bug' is now 'official' (I guess that's the correct term?) that folks at Logitech will look at it at some point and hopefully come up with a 'fix' if there is one via firmware release. If not, for me, judicious use of masking tap

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Odd issue with my Touch (might be my DAC)

2011-01-24 Thread Griffin
I'll stir the mud up again than... AES/EBU (= AES3) is not SPDIF. It differs in more aspects from SPDIF than just the metadata; the electrical interface is quite different. SPDIF uses unbalanced electrical connections with a 0.5V amplitude, AES3 uses balanced or unbalanced electrical connections w

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 2.0

2011-01-24 Thread pippin
Phil Leigh;604892 Wrote: > Indeed. Home networks should be floating with respect to earth. This seems to be a regionally different philosophy. In Germany, Switzerland and Austria almost exclusively shielded cables are being used (mostly the simple type, F/UTP, with a shield around the whole cabl

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Playlists

2011-01-24 Thread Cut-Throat
Just got my SB touch. Is there a way to create and save Playlists using Squeezebox Server Web Control on my laptop? -- Cut-Throat Cut-Throat's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=43167 View this thread

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch not in standby?

2011-01-24 Thread Heth
Marvt74;604905 Wrote: > Hi Guys > > My touch used to have the clock as a screensaver once I turned it off > (using the touch screen on/off button), however all of a sudden it has > stopped doing this and when I turn it off it no longer shows in Ipeng > as a device. > > I've checked the settings

[SlimDevices: Touch] Touch not in standby?

2011-01-24 Thread Marvt74
Hi Guys My touch used to have the clock as a screensaver once I turned it off (using the touch screen on/off button), however all of a sudden it has stopped doing this and when I turn it off it no longer shows in Ipeng as a device. Does anyone know what I’ve done? -- Marvt74 -

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 2.0

2011-01-24 Thread Phil Leigh
soundcheck;604887 Wrote: > Not any homenetwork I've seen is properly grounded according to > professional standards. > > How many active home network devices allow for professional grounding. > > And yes. The mess finds its way over the ground into the device. > The wires are isolated, not the

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 2.0

2011-01-24 Thread soundcheck
Mnyb;604880 Wrote: > Shielded Ethernet may not be the best choice as you actually can create > ground loops spanning all over your house ? Duno how susceptible a > switch is to "other" forms of parasitic coupling, ethernet is normally > galvanically isolated current loops right ? Not any homenet

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 2.0

2011-01-24 Thread Mnyb
Shielded Ethernet may not be the best choice as you actually can create ground loops spanning all over your house ? Duno how susceptible a switch is to "other" forms of parasitic coupling, ethernet is normally galvanically isolated current loops right ? -- Mnyb

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 2.0

2011-01-24 Thread Phil Leigh
If you want to hear the effect of the physical/electrical ethernet connection, start a track playing (redbook is best for this) and, halfway through the track, physically disconnect the ethernet cable from the Touch. Playback will continue from the buffer... -- Phil Leigh You want to see the s

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 2.0

2011-01-24 Thread soundcheck
I've been playing with ethernet cables over the weekend. At DIY Audio somebody (kelli) stated that his ethernet cables (from Meicord.de), do perform much better then his Drakas. Those should be "similar" to the ones I'm running and referencing to. (Though the shield is cut now on mine and my Dra

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 2.0

2011-01-24 Thread Phil Leigh
magiccarpetride;604786 Wrote: > That is not what I meant. What I meant is this: if you taste something, > and if you really like it, you'd be a wobbly fool if then, upon hearing > that some 'expert' or some 'authority' claims that the product you like > is not that good, you have a change of hear