garym wrote:
> Yes, a tiny, tiny, tiny minority.
I certainly hope so!
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erland wrote:
> I'm fairly sure the users posting on this forum is a minority of all
> Squeezebox customers.
Yes, a tiny, tiny, tiny minority.
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fallenguru wrote:
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>
> > whereas many other bugs have not been addressed.
> See, and that's not so great, at least not for people like me who
> don't use their SBs stand-alone at all. It'd be nice if they threw the
> core audience / loyal fan base a bone once in a while. (Triode doesn't
> coun
fallenguru wrote:
>
> IIRC the Transporter could have profitably been sold at <$1k but they
> upped the price to match the audiophile market's expectations ^^.
OT and it can't be to cheap otherwise audiophiles won't buy or they will
give bad reviews and replace with something more expensive .
On 1 July 2012 00:22, garym wrote:
> All products are eventually extinct. My 1979 apple II works fine.
I don't know about you, but I'd have no problem replacing an Apple II.
I really wouldn't know what to replace my Squeezeboxes with, though.
The HTPC could do it, of course, but compared to the SB
fallenguru wrote:
>
> * people who want to use the Touch stand-alone with a USB hard drive:
>
I've been using the Touch with a USB drive for the last two years, and
I've just bought one for my parents that will run similarly. I can tell
you that over two years, there have been consistent impro
All products are eventually extinct. My 1979 apple II works fine. But I
can't add any apps to it. ;-)
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On 30 June 2012 19:51, toby10
wrote:
> Yes, and there are even more Amazon reviews that say "setup was a
> breeze". Look at the Amazon review ratings for the Touch, what %
> gives it 4 to 5 stars versus 1 to 3 stars?
It's sitting at 4 stars. That doesn't mean that the negative reviews
are not val
Yes, and there are even more Amazon reviews that say "setup was a
breeze". Look at the Amazon review ratings for the Touch, what % gives
it 4 to 5 stars versus 1 to 3 stars? Some of those negative reviews are
from people complaining about content providers or poor WiFi in their
homes, nothing Lo
On 30 June 2012 12:41, toby10
wrote:
> SqueezeBox will never be "mass-market" like an iPod, it has always
> been a niche market [...]
Yes, but is this really a bad thing? Should it even try to be more mass market?
> it's broad feature set
What good are features if they are little more than bulle
fallenguru wrote:
> .. IMHO the Touch *doesn't
> have* that much mass market appeal to begin with (the Radio might). If
> it did it wouldn't be an also-ran in a market that Squeezeboxes
> created. By now you've lost the mass market at "dedicated device for
> music streaming". After all, there
On 30 June 2012 00:21, sebp wrote:
> Err ... Has anybody told you - yet - that you'll be forced to upgrade to
> Squeezebox Server at least, for being able to use a Touch?
Relax, I'm running 7.7.x. :-)
It's not that I don't update, just that I haven't needed any
from-scratch installs.
fallenguru wrote:
> Nope, never seen anything like it. My Slimserver install is years old,
> the configuration even older, migrated from when I ran code direct from
> the repository.
SlimServer?
Okay, I get it then.
Err ... Has anybody told you - yet - that you'll be forced to upgrade to
Squeeze
On 29 June 2012 21:38, sebp wrote:
> As I'm also using Debian, and just did the test, I'm pretty sure you
> were, because that's how the web interface looks like right after the
> package installation:
> [image: http://squeeze.le-seb.net/lms-privacy.png]
Nope, never seen anything like it. My Slim
fallenguru wrote:
> But I'd much rather have a dumb SB2/3 with a
> modern DAC, multi-channel support, maybe a bigger VFD. Can't be that
> much more expensive.
VFDs have always been the pricier component of the old gen Squeezebox
models (and also the one that makes it more expensive today to repai
fallenguru wrote:
> I'm pretty sure I wasn't asked anything, i'm using the Debian
> packages, though. Anyway, anonymous statistics don't bother me.
As I'm also using Debian, and just did the test, I'm pretty sure you
were, because that's how the web interface looks like right after the
package in
On 29 June 2012 12:36, toby10
wrote:
> The mass market helps keep your Touch at a reasonable price. > Take away it's
> mass market appeal and your very limited market for
> such a device would quadruple the price for the same hardware.
You're missing the point I was trying to make. IMHO the Tou
toby10 wrote:
> Then buy a Transporter? The "non-mass market" SqueezeBox? :)
Good point. And post #1 the OP lamented that no one is selling the TP.
Maybe not in the OP's country, but it shouldn't be that hard to organize
a purchase of a TP SE, which Logitech is currently selling in the US.
He'l
Then buy a Transporter? The "non-mass market" SqueezeBox? :)
The mass market helps keep your Touch at a reasonable price. Take away
it's mass market appeal and your very limited market for such a device
would quadruple the price for the same hardware.
Just as the "mass market" wants USB and n
On 29 June 2012 10:20, toby10
wrote:
>> . it's just that they don't need a Squeezebox for that. Heck, a
>> decent A/V reciever or NAS / media harddrive will do that..
>
> Ok, then why don't you simply use those for your streaming needs?
> Maybe because those "solutions" are clunky, confus
toby10 wrote:
> Ok, then why don't you simply use those for your streaming needs? Maybe
> because those "solutions" are clunky, confusing, limited, not user
> friendly?
> I'll bet many of the reasons you prefer a SqueezeBox for your local
> music also applies to why many prefer the same hardware
fallenguru wrote:
> . it's just that they don't need a Squeezebox for that. Heck, a
> decent A/V reciever or NAS / media harddrive will do that..
>
Ok, then why don't you simply use those for your streaming needs? Maybe
because those "solutions" are clunky, confusing, limited, not use
On 28 June 2012 18:18, aubuti
wrote:
> In fact, you may have it turned around: manufacturers are increasingly
> emphasizing online streaming services because that _is_ what
> growing numbers of people want.
The cynic in me says that manufacturers pretty much produce what they
want and then market
sebp wrote:
> Look back at what chill said a page ago: his brand new Touch upgraded
> its firmware before asking him for a mysb.com account.
> It's not the reason it asks you for a mysb.com account.
>
> As a side note regarding privacy, when you install LMS, you're prompted
> whether or not you
JohnSwenson wrote:
> The reason you are asked to login when inittially starting the Touch is
> to get the latest firmware, what is in it out of the box is almost
> useless.
Look back at what chill said a page ago: his brand new Touch upgraded
its firmware before asking him for a mysb.com account.
Was going to say something then I googled project echelon and both
safari and Facebook crashed on my iPad , where is my tinfoil.. Spooky
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Just to reiterate what others have said, mysqueezebox.com is NOT repeat
NOT used in anyway when you connect the Touch to your local server and
play files located on that server. It will be used for certain online
services as Erland mentioned. Going directly to internet radio stations
will also not
fallenguru wrote:
>
>
> > Just register and save some time and struggling, you have obviously
> > already registered on this forum so Logitech already have your
> > e-mail so I don't understand the issue with giving them it once more.
>
> Mailing list, but yes. It isn't about the e-mail, thoug
fallenguru wrote:
>
>
> > They were trying to accommodate users who couldn't have/didn't
> > want to have a computer/full server running.
> >
> > [...]
> >
> > Especially if one considers that probably the fastest growing part of
> > the market doesn't have a local music collection, but instead
I'm also starting to feel like an oldtimer .
The actual work of ripping and properly tag music is to much for most
people , they wan't music on tap :)
So thats how it is, having local files at all is the minority thing
Mn
Mysb.com proxies a lot of encryption handshaking for the more paranoid
services that would not allow such module sitting in the open source
local server so it acts as middle man .
Possibly a lot more could be moved to local servers as the whole tune-in
indexing of internet radio ,but it is on mys
fallenguru wrote:
> On 27 June 2012 10:39, chill forums.slimdevices.com> wrote:
> > I just tried this with a fresh-out-of-the-box Touch [...] the first
> thing it
> > did after I entered my wifi password was to prompt me to download
> > the latest firmware. At this stage I had not told the unit
On 27 June 2012 10:39, chill wrote:
> I just tried this with a fresh-out-of-the-box Touch [...] the first thing it
> did after I entered my wifi password was to prompt me to download
> the latest firmware. At this stage I had not told the unit anything
> about my local LMS setup, [...]
>
> I coul
rayman1701 wrote:
> I don't think they were trying to take away any functionality with
> having the mysqueezebox.com option. They were trying to accommodate
> users who couldn't have/didn't want to have a computer/full server
> running. So for those that just want to listen to internet radio, o
Just register and save some time and struggling, you have obviously
already registered on this forum so Logitech already have your e-mail so
I don't understand the issue with giving them it once more.
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fallenguru wrote:
>
>
> Now, I've never used Squeezenetwork / mysqueezebox.com and very much
> don't
> want to. Not everything needs to be closely integrated with the
> Internet,
> much less a proprietary service. There's privacy issues, security
> issues,
> reliability issues - all for functio
If you are that paranoid you could always use a disposable email for
registration.
Whether you ever use a MySB.com or always use MySB.com, if MySB.com goes
away this will not effect your Touch's other functions. This is true
using LMS server on a computer or the Touch's inbuilt server.
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chill wrote:
> Chris
>
> I just tried this with a fresh-out-of-the-box Touch (courtesy of Amazon
> UK's lightening deal the other day). The first thing it asks you to do
> is connect to your own network (wired or wireless), and in my case the
> first thing it did after I entered my wifi passwor
Chris
I just tried this with a fresh-out-of-the-box Touch (courtesy of Amazon
UK's lightening deal the other day). The first thing it asks you to do
is connect to your own network (wired or wireless), and in my case the
first thing it did after I entered my wifi password was to prompt me to
down
On 26 June 2012 21:54, Mnyb wrote:
> maybe someone has a detailed description on how to pass the nag
> screen for mysb.com on setup ? It can be done yes .
That would be nice. All I could google is that there may be a swipe
gesture that works, possibly depending on firmware. Since I can't
upgrade
24/96 no problem on all outputs analog spdiff and optical ,more than 2
discrete channels no not that I'm aware off :-/ I want that to and hdmi
would be the way .
maybe someone has a detailed description on how to pass the nag screen
for mysb.com on setup ? It can be done yes .
But nothing is requ
- No MySB.com account required to use any SqueezeBox player. Don't
even need an internet connection.
- Only missing online content absent MySB.com, which you don't want.
- Firmware can be applied to Touch by either server (LMS on your
computer or MySB.com online) or even just the Touch's SD
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