Re: [Trisquel-users] Websites that suggest exclusively free addons/plugins.

2015-06-12 Thread lakbk89
@jxself, Thank you for the update. Personally I love GNU IceCat due to emphasis on privacy and, of course, it respects my freedom. Porting this gem to F-Droid, the fully free repository for Android distributions is a recognition in itself to the maintainer and the whole community behind it.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Could Trisquel 8 switch to MATE?

2015-06-12 Thread danigaritarojas
> "solving several longstanding energy management issues." Can you give examples of those energy management issues?

Re: [Trisquel-users] Looking for help with Abrowser flash films

2015-06-12 Thread gramex
Adobe Flash is available for Android. I found plenty of results by searching "flash for android" in DuckDuckGo. You did say they typically don't have it, but I wanted to make that clear.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Looking for help with Abrowser flash films

2015-06-12 Thread onpon4
Mainly because Apple (mainly Steve Jobs, IIRC) explicitly rejected Flash on iOS, which was to my recollection mainly because they wanted to control the user experience of iOS tightly, and Flash handed off control to Adobe. Apple passed it off as Flash being obsolete, or something to that effe

Re: [Trisquel-users] Could Trisquel 8 switch to MATE?

2015-06-12 Thread danigaritarojas
> "It's disingenuous to suggest that GNOME has removed a feature it hasn't" Sorry for my imprecise use of the language, I'm still learning English. What I wanted say is that we lost a feature because of GNOME putting in the way, not that it was GNOME itself who removed it. Sorry about that.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Looking for help with Abrowser flash films

2015-06-12 Thread davesamcdxv
Anyway have they got a "mobile" version (Android and iOS don't use Flash)? I think if they have it'll be possible to open them without Flash, and hopefully without proprietary software at all.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Looking for help with Abrowser flash films

2015-06-12 Thread davesamcdxv
I thought I recalled Flash being pulled from Macs. My bad, then.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Could Trisquel 8 switch to MATE?

2015-06-12 Thread davesamcdxv
Yes, there is a version Mintmenu for MATE. It seems to prevent dconf-editor from running correctly when I install the version from Dagda, though (except I'm probably the only one who cares one wee bit about that). Agree with you regarding GNOME Shell.

[Trisquel-users] Re : Could Trisquel 8 switch to MATE?

2015-06-12 Thread lcerf
Isn't that great? It isn't. It means MATE still uses the unmaintained ConsoleKit framework that GNOME recently ditched in favor of logind, thereby solving several longstanding energy management issues.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Looking for help with Abrowser flash films

2015-06-12 Thread nicolasmaia
While we're on the subject: why is ARM so badly supported?

Re: [Trisquel-users] Looking for help with Abrowser flash films

2015-06-12 Thread onpon4
Why would you think that? Adobe releases all its other software for OS X, why would they neglect Flash, a program which used to be so incredibly prominent on the Web that people to this day tend to install it just as a matter of routine? The only general-use computers running proprietary soft

Re: [Trisquel-users] Could Trisquel 8 switch to MATE?

2015-06-12 Thread onpon4
It's disingenuous to suggest that GNOME has removed a feature it hasn't. What's happened is Metacity never had this feature in the first place (GNOME first got it with GNOME Shell), and supposedly (I've only heard it in this thread) it's difficult to use an alternative window manager with GNO

Re: [Trisquel-users] Looking for help with Abrowser flash films

2015-06-12 Thread davesamcdxv
I thought you can't?

Re: [Trisquel-users] Could Trisquel 8 switch to MATE?

2015-06-12 Thread davesamcdxv
Well, if we want to keep using Metacity we're never getting window tiling - and it's not GNOME's fault. Metacity never had it and Compiz didn't have drag-to-edge tiling until 0.9 anyway. It's got nothing to do with GNOME 3. But yeah, if you want tiling with a stacking window manager that does

Re: [Trisquel-users] Could Trisquel 8 switch to MATE?

2015-06-12 Thread danigaritarojas
"It's systemd needed?" According to Gentoo's Wiki, no. Does MATE rely on a specific service manager or init system? No, MATE has been tested to work with both OpenRC and systemd and might work on other service managers and init systems too (untested, but no known reason for it to break); sys

Re: [Trisquel-users] Could Trisquel 8 switch to MATE?

2015-06-12 Thread danigaritarojas
"GNOME Shell is the normal GNOME experience." Yeah, but as far as I know Trisquel aim to have a classic and lightweight DE for it's default image. And GNOME Shell needs hardware acceleration to run decently. That's why we use GNOME Flashback, but since it lacks features that MATE have withou

Re: [Trisquel-users] Could Trisquel 8 switch to MATE?

2015-06-12 Thread onpon4
GNOME Shell allows you to maximize windows on the left or right side of the screen. Of course that's got little to do with what GNOME Flashback is capable of, but GNOME Shell is the normal GNOME experience.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Remove unnecessary packages and services

2015-06-12 Thread legimet . calc
BTW, if you ever want to clear the autoremove list, this command comes in handy (run as root): aptitude keep-all

Re: [Trisquel-users] Could Trisquel 8 switch to MATE?

2015-06-12 Thread blade . vp2020
BTW, can run orca in lxde

Re: [Trisquel-users] Could Trisquel 8 switch to MATE?

2015-06-12 Thread blade . vp2020
its nede systemd?

Re: [Trisquel-users] Remove unnecessary packages and services

2015-06-12 Thread grandizo
This case has solved. I did a fresh installation using GUI installer and I could remove metapackages except one and then I removed all my unnecessary packages (and then apt-get autoremove command). However if trisquel-desktop-common-data metapackege is removed then it will break apt/dpkg as

Re: [Trisquel-users] an Open Source Hardware Certification

2015-06-12 Thread svhaab
I think the goal for now is a free software notebook mainboard. If fx I could get a newly manufactured libreboot x200 mainboard, I would get one. I agree, you will not get non knowledgeable buyers to buy a free software computer, especially not because it will likely be more expensive. It has t

Re: [Trisquel-users] Remove unnecessary packages and services

2015-06-12 Thread t8mf4nu6lizp
>Because the default install only explicitly installs the meta-packages I think this is a bad idea. Perhaps we could file a bug requesting the actual packages instead? (In Synaptic those are in Installed (auto removable). If you select such a package and then go to the Package menu and clic

Re: [Trisquel-users] Looking for help with Abrowser flash films

2015-06-12 Thread tomlukeywood
"because otherwise Mac users wouldn't be impressed either" you can run flash on osx cant you?

Re: [Trisquel-users] new to trisquel, linux-libre kernel, and the free software ethic

2015-06-12 Thread greatgnu
welcome to the community!

Re: [Trisquel-users] Could Trisquel 8 switch to MATE?

2015-06-12 Thread deavmi
Same. Great idea. MATE for days. I love MATE.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Looking for help with Abrowser flash films

2015-06-12 Thread nicolasmaia
There are a few options you can still try: https://trisquel.info/en/wiki/play-videos-without-using-flash

Re: [Trisquel-users] Could Trisquel 8 switch to MATE?

2015-06-12 Thread ka1cey
I have Mate and orca working in another distro. There are a few minor accessibility gaps, but it is usable. Since Ubuntu Mate is an official spin, and Mate packages are also maintained in Debian (Jessie) main repos, I think Mate in Trisquel 8 is a fine idea!

Re: [Trisquel-users] Could Trisquel 8 switch to MATE?

2015-06-12 Thread danigaritarojas
Well, window tiling wasn't a GNOME's feature, but we have it in Trisquel 6 thanks to Compiz. As far as I know, we don't in Trisquel 7 because it's impossible to use any window manager other than Metacity without changing GNOME's source code. And Metacity don't seems to have window tiling, at

Re: [Trisquel-users] Could Trisquel 8 switch to MATE?

2015-06-12 Thread davesamcdxv
Window tiling's gone?? If it is I don't think it's gNOME's fault since it was basically absent in GNOME 2 and is present in GNOME 3.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Looking for help with Abrowser flash films

2015-06-12 Thread davesamcdxv
Forgive me for saying this, but if it needs Flash, it needs flash. Is there any other format under which the book thingie is in? (I think there's got to be - because otherwise Mac users wouldn't be impressed either).

Re: [Trisquel-users] Could Trisquel 8 switch to MATE?

2015-06-12 Thread danigaritarojas
I was thinking about this too, even with the great work of Rúben and the others on the appearance of the distro. We have lost features like window tiling, and we have bugs like bad drawing when scrolling on lists. And, as far as I know, is all Gnome's fault. But then, we have MATE which could

Re: [Trisquel-users] Remove unnecessary packages and services

2015-06-12 Thread davesamcdxv
If I'm not mistaken none of the preinstalled packages are set to auto so you should be safe even if you remove the metapackages. The best way to know for sure is to remove one of them and do an apt-get autoremove and see if it asks to remove anything. Anyway, there's always netinstall :) or

Re: [Trisquel-users] Could Trisquel 8 switch to MATE?

2015-06-12 Thread davesamcdxv
Had Ubuntu MATE not become official Ubuntu project, though, would MATE still have made it to the repos anyway (since I'm pretty sure it's present upstream at Debian)?

Re: [Trisquel-users] Could Trisquel 8 switch to MATE?

2015-06-12 Thread davesamcdxv
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/MATE#Accessibility

Re: [Trisquel-users] Remove unnecessary packages and services

2015-06-12 Thread grandizo
This situation is similar when the user is used Synaptic. Problem is that these packages are installed by default via OS installation and they are dependencies with OS metapackages. I also tested on Linux Mint 17.1 and there were not any problems there, All packages were standalone without

Re: [Trisquel-users] Websites that suggest exclusively free addons/plugins.

2015-06-12 Thread nicolasmaia
Also, Trisquel's own browser add-on list: https://trisquel.info/en/browser/addons

Re: [Trisquel-users] Websites that suggest exclusively free addons/plugins.

2015-06-12 Thread marioxcc . MT
>Do you know any other websites which can fit into the context? Yes, Libregamewiki.

Re: [Trisquel-users] New Intel graphics will require non-free firmware

2015-06-12 Thread marioxcc . MT
x86 and ARM are instruction set architectures (the format and semantics allowed for machine code). 32 bits or 64 bits in this context refers to the “word width”: the size in bits of the general purpose registers which is usually the same as the size of memory addresses. Both ARM and x86 have

Re: [Trisquel-users] New Intel graphics will require non-free firmware

2015-06-12 Thread marioxcc . MT
x86 and ARM are instruction set architectures (the format and semantics allowed for machine code). 32 bits or 64 bits in this context refers to the “word width”; the size in bits of the general purpose registers and usually also of the RAM addresses. Both ARM and x86 have 32 bits and 64 bits

[Trisquel-users] Re : Remove unnecessary packages and services

2015-06-12 Thread lcerf
'apt-get autoremove' removes packages that were not explicitly asked for and that do not depend anymore on a package that was explicitly installed. Because the default install only explicitly installs the meta-packages, 'apt-get autoremove' suggests the removal of most of the system after tho

Re: [Trisquel-users] Could Trisquel 8 switch to MATE?

2015-06-12 Thread blade . vp2020
its run orca??

[Trisquel-users] Looking for help with Abrowser flash films

2015-06-12 Thread anatom
Hello everyone, I have the following problem: For professional education, I would like to use the following site http://ilias.aekwl.de/ilias.php?baseClass=ilSAHSPresentationGUI&ref_id=27033 After login, there is a virtual book with several presentations. When I click on them, there is a new

Re: [Trisquel-users] New Intel graphics will require non-free firmware

2015-06-12 Thread davesamcdxv
If I'm not mistaken x86 is actually nowadays used to refer to 32-bit x86 processors while x86-64 (or AMD64) is used to refer to 64-bit so I'm not sure what you mean.

Re: [Trisquel-users] New Intel graphics will require non-free firmware

2015-06-12 Thread nicolasmaia
Huh, I always had the impression that 64-bit and x86 were synonyms :P Thanks!

Re: [Trisquel-users] Websites that suggest exclusively free addons/plugins.

2015-06-12 Thread nicolasmaia
There is an open thread at F-Droid for IceCat's inclusion: https://f-droid.org/forums/topic/gnuzilla-and-icecat/

Re: [Trisquel-users] New Intel graphics will require non-free firmware

2015-06-12 Thread nicolasmaia
Our safest bet is 32-bit? Why is it better than x86? (Sorry I'm not very knowledgeable, but willing to learn)

Re: [Trisquel-users] Could Trisquel 8 switch to MATE?

2015-06-12 Thread tegskywalker
I apologize for the spelling mistakes by the way. I wish I could edit the original post. :-(

[Trisquel-users] Could Trisquel 8 switch to MATE?

2015-06-12 Thread tegskywalker
As of Ubuntu 15.04 onward, Ubuntu MATE is an official spin meaning MATE packages are available by default and will get feature and security updates from here on. Things can only get better with 16.04, for which Trusquel 8 will be based on. While I applaud Ruben's work in getting Gnome 3 cla

Re: [Trisquel-users] Websites that suggest exclusively free addons/plugins.

2015-06-12 Thread jason
"Do you know any other websites which can fit into the context?" The entire directory.fsf.org website. I understand that getting IceCat into F-Droid is planned already but Rubén has been rather busy. See the "Personal Note" at the end of this: http://savannah.gnu.org/forum/forum.php?forum_id=

Re: [Trisquel-users] Librebooted Macbook 2,1

2015-06-12 Thread gnuser
I know, but the idea is that we stop doing that. Just as an IP can't/shouldn't be used to identify a user, same way a MAC address can't/shouldn't. Also, there is the very stupid (or very futuristic as someone called it) idea of build our own networks, that I suggested in a thread in the troll

Re: [Trisquel-users] New Intel graphics will require non-free firmware

2015-06-12 Thread jason
From a software freedom perspective, x86 is like the Titanic. It's going down and it's time to get off. Now where's my lifeboat?

Re: [Trisquel-users] New Intel graphics will require non-free firmware

2015-06-12 Thread jason
Not with Intel, unless someone manages to reverse engineer stuff or Intel changes their mind. First they had the proprietary BIOS. As if that wasn't bad enough, enter Boot Guard. To make things even worse now this with the video. Switching to AMD can address (some) of these three problems but

[Trisquel-users] Websites that suggest exclusively free addons/plugins.

2015-06-12 Thread lakbk89
While filing a bug report[1] in Trisquel's bug tracking system, I came across these two websites which suggest exclusively free addons/plugins; 1. http://directory.fsf.org/wiki/GNU_IceCat 2. https://f-droid.org/ Do you know any other websites which can fit into the context? Also, is it poss

Re: [Trisquel-users] Librebooted Macbook 2,1

2015-06-12 Thread jason
"It would make your computer a lot more private and hard to track if everyone shared the same MAC Address ;)" It would make network access impossible. Any responsible network will shut down your access in the event of duplicate MAC addresses.

Re: [Trisquel-users] New Intel graphics will require non-free firmware

2015-06-12 Thread jason
Nope, not just Phoronix. Even Intel.com. It's real. It's happening. It's not a joke.

Re: [Trisquel-users] New Intel graphics will require non-free firmware

2015-06-12 Thread davesamcdxv
I haven't been checking enough then :( And there's no effing way out that's newer than Broadwell?

Re: [Trisquel-users] Librebooted Macbook 2,1

2015-06-12 Thread gnuser
Although that could be potentially good. It would make your computer a lot more private and hard to track if everyone shared the same MAC Address ;) But yes, sometimes people need the real MAC so it's a good idea to save it.

Re: [Trisquel-users] New Intel graphics will require non-free firmware

2015-06-12 Thread davesamcdxv
Why would you not believe that it is? Well, because Larabel, the last time I searched, was the only guy to explicitly say that it's happening without linking to Phoronix. False hope on my part, huh?

Re: [Trisquel-users] New Intel graphics will require non-free firmware

2015-06-12 Thread jason
Of course it is. Why would you not believe that it is? This is just some joke thread? Sadly, it is not.

Re: [Trisquel-users] New Intel graphics will require non-free firmware

2015-06-12 Thread gnuser
After talking with Nico (who is the developer of Bananian, a Debian based OS for the Banana Pi board, you can visit his website at www.bananian.org) the Banana Pro has a wifi chip that is supported by an open source driver. I made that specific question and his answer was this: "3.) The wif

[Trisquel-users] Remove unnecessary packages and services

2015-06-12 Thread grandizo
I use Trisquel 7 Mini and everything works well. However I want to remove unnecessary packages and services that I really don't need for example lvm2, dmraid, mdadm, modemmanager, ppp, btrfs-tools, jfsutils etc. I can remove them using apt but then I get a long list of packages due to depen

Re: [Trisquel-users] an Open Source Hardware Certification

2015-06-12 Thread gromobir
"So it'll be necessary to see and wait if that make it in or not." True that but that would be MY definition of truly open hardware. ;-D "It seems you're trying to present the so-called "Open Source Hardware Certification" as something more fundamental that the RYF program." Right now this is p

Re: [Trisquel-users] New Intel graphics will require non-free firmware

2015-06-12 Thread davesamcdxv
Anyway is this really happening?