This made it impossible for me to find more about this product. In the source
code I noticed they recommend Fecesbook...
For free skype replacements there are
https://www.fsf.org/campaigns/priority-projects/#Replaceskype
Perhaps we need to start wondering if purism is ... impure? Impurism?
http://retro-freedom.nz/blog/2015/08/03/logo-wars-back-with-a-vengeance/
Tor is a dependency of Icecat. I believe Icecat's private mode uses Tor.
The primary difference between IceCat and Abrowser is essentially the range of
plugins installed- Abrowser is a more or less vanilla Firefox (except it does
not recommend non-free plugins) while IceCat has HTTPS Everywhere, LibreJS, and
HTML5 Video installed by default, as well as the IceCat homepa
noone was trying to hijack the post. All the talk in the irc channel about
needing to use debian for non free drivers and modules, and the arguments
that security and privacy are not as important as other things. made me
assume wrong. I apologized for that already.
"You mean, except for the ones who can't feel pain, because their nervous
systems are defective?"
This was the only thing you were left trying to argue. But I said I agree
with that statement. of course.
The reason the article considers that statement the wrong thing to say, which
you did anyways.../facepalmis because it doesn't have a strong enough
meaning on what it considers should be a fundamental human right
The article says "the word “advantages” is too weak when it comes to
freed
This thread has reached 100 posts. cooloutac was successful in his goal of
hijacking this thread about the radeon patch. Please stop replying.
No, you're just repeating the same nonsense ad nauseam, even copying and
pasting your old posts in multiple places. And the last one, you didn't even
address my post at all. This is boring.
yes, except for those...lol
I'm sure you are running out of things to argue against...
"Security and privacy are "advantages""
The reason the article considers that statement the wrong thing to say, which
you did anyways.../facepalmis because it doesn't have a strong enough
meaning on what it considers should be a fundamental human right, and it
separates the importance
> It is a concrete feeling every human has at birth
You mean, except for the ones who can't feel pain, because their nervous
systems are defective?
You know, I'm bored of this. And the posts are getting squeezed into the
right. (Seriously, this forum really shouldn't do that; it would be be
well i guess we will have to wait and see if they release the source code.
"I'm often asked to describe the “advantages” of free software. But the
word “advantages” is too weak when it comes to freedom"
Precisely. Freedom. Not security.
Many of us are FSF members. We know what we stand for.
site dose not render without javascript
that laptop(as far as i know)
dose not run a free bios
also depending on what you need the pc for you i have these suggestions
all these computers can be run using entirely libre software
basic web browsing, programming, video, etc
the thinkpad x60(purchasable from around £30 on ebay)
my x60'
I'm not the one claiming that privacy and security are more imporant then
being able to share information. But you are certainly trying to claim the
reverse.
Back doors
Insecurity
Sabotage
Interference
Surveillance
Are all just as important as censorship. Not more, not less.
lmao, the actual title is "Free Software: More Than “Advantages”"
wow dude, you are already not grasping what that article is trying to say,
What that article is actually saying. is to NOT explain them as advantages.
"I'm often asked to describe the “advantages” of free software. But the
> you learned empathy. You can't empathize without understanding another
persons shoes. This is not something you know as a baby. Silly to argue
otherwise. Some people never learn.
> The point is, pain is not an idea. Its a real scientifical fact. It is a
concrete feeling every human
Quoting yourself doesn't make what you said any more accurate or meaningful.
Just because you use proprietary software doesn't mean your statement of
belief that proprietary software is unethical is a lie.
That whole page is about malware, do you not believe that malware is directly
related to privacy and security?
Not necessarily. Take any DRM for instance. A DVD player forcing you to read
that "piracy kills kittens" is neither a security issue nor a privacy
concern. It is a malware through:
There's an ARM device in development called the "Pyra" with a decent
configuration (2 GB of RAM, dual-core CPU) with the only problems with libre
software being: no hardware acceleration, ever (PowerVR GPU), probably no
built-in wireless, and lower sound quality. That one fits everything into
then you disagree with GNU's definitions and examples of why proprietary
software is "unethical"
This is the article on GNU's website that explains why free software is
important: https://gnu.org/philosophy/free-software-even-more-important.html
Security and privacy are "advantages" (see th
I don't know what you are implying, but I'll just re-post a previous
comment.
"Using proprietary software when you don't have to is hypocritical. Removing
free software in favor of proprietary software, when it is unnecessary to do
so, is hypocritical. Promoting proprietary software over f
First, thanks for pointing us to these articles and social media post. I
find it very interesting to read the views of people working on this
stuff (the people most knowledgeable on the details of the
implementation). And thanks for assembling the computers and selling
them to us all with free
That whole page is about malware, do you not believe that malware is
directly related to privacy and security? haha.
Further injustices, meaning more then just prohibiting the sharing of
information which I stated. Or the adding of new features. And which i keep
stating is no more impo
God, you're like the ultimate wet dream of the open source anti-libre
hipsters who want to portray the libre software movement as a religion that
gets mad at people for daring to run proprietary software. Constantly
vilifying innocent people because supposedly they suffer abuse. Like, you've
> The point of me linking that page, is to show you that your "ethics" is not
more important thyen privacy and security, even according the FSF.
Uh, no. How about you actually read what you're linking to?
Proprietary software, also called nonfree software, means software that
doesn't respect
I would only agree if it was necessary for him to use said prop software.
Such as the case with many wireless cards. But it isn't nescessary in his
case. He uses it out of preference.
> Asking why hurting others is bad, is something children have to learn the
answer to as well.
It was never explained to me. I figured that out on my own. Probably around
the same time I developed empathy.
> Because pain is a tangible real feeling. Its not a philosophy, its
physical, its
Back on IceCat as, like others, my Abrowser broke again with the recent
update. :( I noticed that IceCat hasn't been updated to match the most secure
Firefox version. Is that correct?
Also, what are the main differences between IceCat and Abrowser? Is it the
plugins installed by default and
"Power corrupts, so the proprietary program's developer is tempted to design
the program to mistreat its users—that is, to make it malware. (Malware
means software whose functioning mistreats the user.) Of course, the
developer usually does not do this out of malice, but rather to put the use
Great news about tutanota; I've decided to migrate to posteo.de. Not sure
about its fitness for librejs, but I temporarily whitelisted it for signup
and preferences setting. There is a captcha of the non-image, non-audio-file
kind; I had no trouble with it. The automatic migration assista
What I describe there is every human child.
Asking why hurting others is bad, is something children have to learn also.
Are you really asking for an explanation or is this rhetorical like I assume?
That page doesn't describe why proprietary software is unethical. It
describes examples of malware in proprietary software, one bad effect of
proprietary software. It's unethical because you deserve control over your
computer. Why do you deserve control over your computer? Well, freedom.
Th
> man is born evil, he learns to be good
What you describe here is a psychopath, not a typical human. I think there's
a period in everyone's life where empathy is lacking, but the acquisition of
empathy is brain development, not learning.
> The most simple definition, is something that does
Here is the extension for the applications menu:
https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/6/applications-menu/
And the one for the places menu:
https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/8/places-status-indicator/
Here's the harangue that ensues, even though icedove starts and runs from the
GUI OK:
amenex:~/.icedove$ icedove -ProgramManager
(process:2541): GLib-CRITICAL **: g_slice_set_config: assertion
'sys_page_size == 0' failed
(icedove:2541): GLib-GObject-WARNING **: Attempt to add property
Gn
The two supposedly non-blank profiles open up empty when I enter an
appropriate username & P/W, even though I can view their far more delicately
organized contents with file manager in the .icedove folder. More work is
necessary ! With the selected username & P/W I can then download my mail f
> Provided The activities menu is replaced by a classic menu
Incidentally, GNOME Classic does that. :) GNOME Classic being a small
collection of extensions for GNOME Shell to make the experience more
traditional.
> I suppose it's not Trisquel's default because it wasn't yet mature enough
Wrong, again, man is born evil, he learns to be good. What is your
definition of good? Thats what needs to be explained, and thats what gets
learned.
The most simple definition, is something that doesn't hurt others is good.
If it hurts others its bad.
But when it comes to why in
> Calinou has been stating irc channel, to new users with radeon drivers who
have been suggested this kernel, they will still not get 3d acceleration
And this is entirely true. This is about being able to use the Radeon driver
at all, which was ruined due to Radeon dropping UMS support at som
The only thing being proved contradictory in your post, your own statement
that there is a contradiction, when you are claiming that something is based
on principle is contradictory to itself. I think you are confusing yourself
now lol
"For example, The same way the stasi in nazi germany
Interesting, really. I just watched a video introduction.
Provided The activities menu is replaced by a classic menu (at least the
shape of it is more familiar),
it looks really good and practical. And since it's harder to customize/break,
it's even better. Not for my personal use, but I defin
I can get into my main profile folder as described below:
Following my previous hypothesis, I created a new profiles.ini file with the
text editor Kate that includes all the listed profiles in my .icedove folder,
following the pattern suggested above. Then I saved it with a
not-profiles.ini
Just saying the word "bullshit" is not threatening enough to people. Because
you will change nobodies minds like that.
But going around preaching about security, when not only gov't agents,
but more importantly, EX gov't agents, and criminal malicious hacking cyber
thieves want to k
Ultimately, there is no objective reason that anything should happen a
particular way in the universe. I'm sorry, but you can't ever possibly
objectively say that any way for a society to run is correct. It's all about
our instincts and morals, in the end.
Food for thought: I'd wager to gue
then you disagree with GNU's definitions and examples of why proprietary
software is "unethical"
https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/proprietary.html
The other reasons for free software, besides potential malware, is that it
might prohibit users from sharing knowledge with each other. But that
I pity you.
Here's another thing...
When I installed those packages individually minus the main meta
"xserver-xorg-lts-vivid" package, my lightdm wouldn't start and even when I
tried an alternative like lxdm, it would kick me to the terminal on boot.
I don't know if this is a bug or an issue, but this
1. I don't think you read correctly, my windows hasn't been destroyed since
windows xp, unlike linux that gets destroyed as soon as i install it and
start voicing my opinions...lol
2. the nsa is not only NOT going to destroy my pc, there is little if any
chance they will actually ca
More news on "Purism":
http://blogs.coreboot.org/blog/2015/08/09/the-truth-about-purism-behind-the-coreboot-scenes/
An outrageous twitter post from Todd attacking an actual RYF FSF certified
libre-laptop:
https://twitter.com/Puri_sm/status/629787848246341632
PC World did an article now too:
To be safe, I am testing the lts-vivid stack for Trisquel 7 on a VirtualBox
instance and installed Trisquel 7 mini. When I install the
"xserver-xorg-lts-vivid" package, it tried to remove these files:
* compton
* gnome-mplayer
* gstreamer0.10-vaapi
* gstreamer1.0-plugins-bad
* gstreamer1.0-va
Very wrong, that is not much more i can say. But you would need to explain
your principles if you want people to agree with them.
many philosphers believe man is born evil, and learns to be good. Chilren
in the sandbox must learn how to share. I believe the same applies to
civilization
The only thing i can see is that at the end of the site it is writing: "All
rights reserved by Zyptonite Inc 2015".
I think that this software doenst respect the 4 principles, to see the code ,
modify and so on... so.. unless they specifically express that is free
software, that we can study
There may be more difficulties as yet unresolved.
I read this How-To:
>
http://kb.mozillazine.org/Starting_your_Mozilla_application_with_a_specified_profile
And so I tried starting icedove from the command console this way:
>> amenex:~$ icedove -profile "6otj8u2m.amenex05"
>> (process:3558):
Again, like a little self righteous bigoted nerd, you make a nonsense post.
This is no different then the semantics you are trying to argue about why
"ethics" is different from privacy and security. When they are not!
I can't believe you would even respond after putting your bananna in y
Oh well. As long as it is in the 3.13 and the 3.19 kernels on the official
repos then I will be happy.
I'm looking to install Trisquel 7.1 fresh and then try to use F2FS with the
updated kernel according to
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2241328&highlight=f2fs and
https://askubuntu.com/questions/452914/installing-ubuntu-14-04-on-a-f2fs-partition.
The tests for 3.19 are pretty much
pizza is more paranoid then me, i'm still laughing how one time he told me
his 01_PASSWORD file was binary and he was getting errors when trying to open
it in an editor, because he was afraid to tell me what i was supposed to put
in it when I asked him, after I deleted it and wanted to use
Calinou actually admits he does publicly. Not only does he use them, he
argues in their favor, for things like xonotic and vbox, when imo they are
not necessary to have to use those programs. SO for you to say he doesn't,
really makes you a sad fucking fool and I feel sorry for you.
But people like Calinou and Supertramp will not use it, because as Calinou
has stated over and over again to new users attempting to install this kernel
on the irc chanell, they will still not get 3d acceleration
It doesn't say it's free software.
Progress and regression.
I found another way of accessing the list of profiles: Following Legimet's
suggestion at the start, I proceeded to the list of available profiles,
picked one, and then invoked it so as to get the Home Icedove Mail/News page.
Clicking on the 3-bars icon in the Home I
> I've personally have broken the desktop bar in my first use of Trisquel.
Trisquel 6? That's a bug in that version of GNOME Fallback, not a mistake you
made. GNOME Flashback doesn't even offer an option to have no panels; the
last remaining one can't be deleted.
The problem resolves itself
This is not a Debian forum.
Anyway, everything should be fine but Wifi and Bluetooth that have a high
probability of not working. You cannot know for sure. The chipset (what
matters for support) is never specified on new hardware. A same model can
even sometimes have a chipset and sometimes
Legimet suggested:
> Use the "create profile" wizard. Click next until you see a "choose folder"
option.
Progress. In the intervening time, I had deleted the proflies.ini file, and
now when I get the Profile Manager popup, there's an icon depicting a
person's head & shoulders instead of th
Finnish company Zyptonite Oy has launched replacement for Skype. Zyptonite is
an open-source and its peer-to-peer technology means your video calls are
crystal clear and completely private. Zyptonite keeps your calls connected
even in the elevator and when you have no reception. In addition,
http://www.pcworldbusiness.co.uk/catalogue/item/P221138P is the computer good
for getting debian 8 free software installed on?
Use the "create profile" wizard. Click next until you see a "choose folder"
option.
To me, it depends on what kind of user we're talking about.
GNU/Linux is reliable, but not so much (in comparison) if you don't know what
you're doing.
The downside of its flexibility is that it's a bit easier to break. Other
than that, it's know to be as solid/reliable as it gets.
My (subj
Legimet asked:
> Is there a "choose folder" [anywhere] ?
Here are the choices given by the Profile Manager popup:
>> Create Profile
>> Rename Profile
>> Delete Profile
Right-clicking on any of these is ineffective.
Selecting "Rename Profile" just produces the suggestion that the original
pro
But this then goes back to it being more of a hack than a proper fix, so I
doubt it'd be accepted anyway purely on technical grounds. Ideally it would
be worked into a proper fix first to make it more acceptable.
I think you can specify an existing profile. Is there a "choose folder"
somewhere in the "create profile" wizard?
Debian didn't include open-ath9k-htc-firmware because it wasn't in
linux-firmware.git. So I imagine they would include this patch only once it
becomes less of a hack (or goes to upstream linux).
Legimet suggested:
> Try icedove -profilemanager
That's logical, but all I see for a list of profiles in the Profile Manager
popup is "default."
Anything else gets me to square one, i.e., setting up a new account.
Here's a truncated list of what the referenced man page has:
> -P [profile]
>
He will probably say that he doesn't trust the link.
Any vulnerability is an attack vector.
What a security expert!
Maybe you can at least read a figure and understand that they are not the
same:
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/86/2010-T10-ArchitectureDiagram.png
It comes from the Wikipedia article on vulnerability (computin
Yeah, Debian may be the ideal place to do it as the changes in Debian make
their way to Ubuntu and then Trisquel.
Try icedove -profilemanager
Oops. Where I used "Other Mail" the correct terminology for icedove is "Local
Folders."
Last time that I faced this task, I was just trying to migrate a thunderbird
profile into icedove, which I barely accomplished by deleting my profiles.ini
file in the .icedove folder.
Now I'm trying to consolidate various profiles from email accounts salvaged
from HDD's extracted from defun
Excellent news! Thanks.
Try my PPA as a temporary solution;
$ sudo add-apt-repository ppa:legimet/abrowser-kde
$ sudo apt-get update
$ sudo apt-get install abrowser
You can use it as a temporary solution.
$ sudo add-apt-repository ppa:legimet/abrowser-kde
$ sudo apt-get update
$ sudo apt-get install abrowser
I don't know, honestly they seem like someone who suffers from paranoia.
https://tutanota.uservoice.com/forums/237921-general/suggestions/7926183-is-this-site-as-safe-as-it-proclaims
"In addition we plan to support LIbreJS"
Where have you heard that plan? There's an open issue for it at:
https://tutanota.uservoice.com/forums/237921-general/suggestions/7502086-librejs-compliance
I feel guilty for saying this, but I feel good seeing this dumbass being
owned by everyone else in this forum every time he spews bullshit. My popcorn
is beside me.
As long as there is someone to feed them..
> Those are partly why gnulinux has been voted most vulnerable operating system
> since 2013.
Evidence, please.
> my windows hasn't been destroyed since windows xp.
That's because your Windows is 'destroyed' by default. Outside bodies control
your computer from day one with Windows, and I'm surp
> i'm known in many communities
I pity them.
> The same way to stasi used seemingly innocent information to blackmail people
> into doing things that would hurt others in their communities.
Why should the Stasi not use blackmail? Principle.
Why should people not hurt others in their community? Principle.
> things we do in private should som
> I am trying to explain to you that they are one and the same.
BUULLSHIT!
The driving factor behind free software is a principle- that users should have
control over their computing. Is their any particular reason for this? No. Not
really. It is a principle. It has no real objective justific
For the a browser problem, you can try my ppa:
https://launchpad.net/~legimet/+archive/ubuntu/abrowser-kde
That's just plain bullshit. I've pissed off my fair share of people in IRC,
even with a notoriously insecure IRC client (irssi, though it is still my
favourite) and a plain connection and I have never even gotten a virus, let
alone have people actively trying to hack me. It's ridiculous to argue th
When are you going to leave us in peace and go use your beloved Windows already?
Principles are things which, by their very nature, need no prior reasoning.
They are things that can be identified as being instinctively right. There is
no real 'reason' as such that people should be allowed to have control over
their own computing- there is of course the potential for abuse throu
Still insist that Windows is more secure than GNU? Still claim to (but don't
actually) give a fuck about software freedom? Still make completely unfounded,
smug accusations about proprietary software usage? Get out. Even if Calinou and
SuperTramp83 did use proprietary firmware (which they don't) it
chet
first suggested:
> In Software & Updates, click on When there are security
updates:, and double check that Download automatically, or Download and
install automatically, are not selected.<
Correct: no automatic security updates.
Regarding chet's second suggestion, referring to the robpicke
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