Re: [TROM1] Eyes problem during creative RI

2014-05-24 Thread David Pelly
* The following message is relayed to you by trom@lists.newciv.org Dmitry, Probably too much of a good thing is not a good thing. You can try Zivorad's techniques in his book; Aspectics: http://www.vladimirstojakovic.com/store.html David On Sat, May 2

Re: [TROM1] Need examples of the Postulates

2014-05-16 Thread David Pelly
* The following message is relayed to you by trom@lists.newciv.org Ludo, I think you are only partly correct. In part: That is a pretty big leap or and stretch of facts. And not of any practical value, to the average person, except to quantum physicists. Then:

[TROM1] (no subject)

2014-02-22 Thread David Pelly
* The following message is relayed to you by trom@lists.newciv.org Pete, It is easy to see that what ever little activity there on this TROM list, is mostly due to or a result of my postings and rattling of your cage and others cages. And the tone level has recently com

[TROM1] The importance of havingness

2014-02-17 Thread David Pelly
* The following message is relayed to you by trom@lists.newciv.org Quote from IVY 34 page 3: The importance of havingness PAB 72, Tech. Vol. II, p.371 has an article "The Importance of Havingness", which states: ".. the only advances worthy of the name of Sci- entology

[TROM1] Frank Gordon on Repair of Havingness

2014-02-16 Thread David Pelly
* The following message is relayed to you by trom@lists.newciv.org Nov. 1997 IVy 34 3 Another Look at Basics: ft 15 On Havingness by Frank Gordon, USA THE EARLIEST MENTION of havingness as a process is in "SOP-8C: The Rehabilitation of the Human Spirit," under Step IV: Hav

[TROM1] Frank Gordon on TROM (In Particular: Commentary on RI)

2014-02-16 Thread David Pelly
* The following message is relayed to you by trom@lists.newciv.org April 1997 IVy 31 29 Book News: TROM: A Better Bridge1? by Frank Gordon, USA At the end of Dianetics: MSMH, Hubbard implores us: "For God's sake, get busy and build a better bridge!" To me, such a bridge wo

[TROM1] A couple of more TROM articles from IVy

2014-02-11 Thread David Pelly
* The following message is relayed to you by trom@lists.newciv.org Dennis Stevens: http://articles.ivymag.org/ivy/iv-17-11.html p ? Leonard Dunn: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/w1ronpfaxq53z66/miVj9OXdKe/ivy%2019.pdf p27 I don't think there are any more TROM articles in

Re: [TROM1] TROM Ethics (Leo Faulhaber)

2014-02-06 Thread David Pelly
* The following message is relayed to you by trom@lists.newciv.org Hi Leo, That is the kind of honest impartial evaluation I like to see. I have long thought that there was something wrong with the list your refer to, but never spent any quality time to think it over an

Re: [TROM1] Out of body

2014-02-05 Thread David Pelly
* The following message is relayed to you by trom@lists.newciv.org Talking about women, Slim. I was on my way to a meeting on Monday night. (I use the city transit.) I got off the bus at the terminal and was walking to the meeting, which was about three blocks. There

[TROM1] Fasting for enlightement

2014-02-02 Thread David Pelly
* The following message is relayed to you by trom@lists.newciv.org Read this: http://organicwholefoodmedicine.wordpress.com/2011/10/10/my-amazing-40-days-of-water-fasting-and-the-enlightenment-that-came-from-it/ ___ Trom mailing

[TROM1] It is all our own doing????????????? Only flow 0?

2014-02-02 Thread David Pelly
* The following message is relayed to you by trom@lists.newciv.org *To all of you who operate on the data that we do everything to ourselves, we create and cause all happenings to us:* *(I first asked Paul this on a back channel comm, but he did not reply.)* *If some

[TROM1] What does TROM contain?

2014-02-02 Thread David Pelly
* The following message is relayed to you by trom@lists.newciv.org Dennis said in one of his tapes that you can put scientology in TROM, but you can't put TROM in scn. Well that is a partial truth. The fact is that everything TROM is, is based on what Dennis learned in h

Re: [TROM1] The viewpoint of self versus awareness

2014-02-02 Thread David Pelly
* The following message is relayed to you by trom@lists.newciv.org Martin, Definition of awareness: 1. Aware of being aware. LRH, *2. * Having knowledge or cognizance: aware of the difference between the two versions; became aware of faint sound. *3. * *Archaic* Vigilant

Re: [TROM1] David and TROM but he's not the only one.

2014-02-01 Thread David Pelly
* The following message is relayed to you by trom@lists.newciv.org Slim, I appreciate your acceptance and encouragement. Thank you. But you are not being honest and objective about TROM. You are not being honest about your experience with TROM. I said it many times

[TROM1] Fwd: Learning to Love Others

2014-02-01 Thread David Pelly
* The following message is relayed to you by trom@lists.newciv.org A Thought to Ponder from *The Urantia Book* "To become acquainted with one's brothers and sisters, to know their problems and to learn to love them, is the supreme experience of living." Jesus, (1

[TROM1] The original version of Carl Sagan's bullshit detector

2014-01-30 Thread David Pelly
* The following message is relayed to you by trom@lists.newciv.org In haste, when I searched for a copy of Carl Sagan's Baloney Detector, I inadvertently chose the wrong one. The one I posted first was a version, that appears to be made by a high school class. This is

[TROM1] An update report on how things are going for me.( especially for new initiates)

2014-01-30 Thread David Pelly
* The following message is relayed to you by trom@lists.newciv.org I post this more so for new initiates than oldtimers, or people who have already have more than their feet wet (they have their privates wet by now) and have been at TROM and processing a while. You can

Re: [TROM1] Duplication (In reply to David)

2014-01-30 Thread David Pelly
Ching, Zen, > Koans that they immediately became enlightened? Some of them even had to be > beaten with a stick many times before they had that ah ha moment. > > Jurgen > > *From:* David Pelly > *Sent:* ‎Thursday‎, ‎January‎ ‎30‎, ‎2014 ‎10‎:‎03‎ ‎AM > *To:* TROM list >

Re: [TROM1] A side purpose of TROM. A little extra bonus.

2014-01-30 Thread David Pelly
* The following message is relayed to you by trom@lists.newciv.org Slim, I acknowledge your posts and encouraging words. I am working on it. Thank you for your considerations. David On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 3:47 AM, wrote: > * > The following messag

[TROM1] Fwd: The Mind

2014-01-30 Thread David Pelly
* The following message is relayed to you by trom@lists.newciv.org A Thought to Ponder from *The Urantia Book* "The mind is a personal-energy system existing around a divine spirit nucleus and functioning in a material environment." (142.1) 12:9.6 --

[TROM1] Thought to ponder for today

2014-01-29 Thread David Pelly
* The following message is relayed to you by trom@lists.newciv.org A Thought to Ponder from *The Urantia Book* "True religion is a meaningful way of living dynamically face to face with the commonplace realities of everyday life." (1089.11) 99:4.3

[TROM1] Christian mysticism, re finding God

2014-01-29 Thread David Pelly
* The following message is relayed to you by trom@lists.newciv.org http://encyclopedia.thefreedictionary.com/Christian+mysticism ___ Trom mailing list Trom@lists.newciv.org http://lists.newciv.org/mailman/listinfo/trom

Re: [TROM1] Hello all

2014-01-29 Thread David Pelly
* The following message is relayed to you by trom@lists.newciv.org Brian, The idea that someone should have to read something more than two or three times (very maximum four or five times) to understand it, or rather as in the case of TROM, begin to understand it, is st

[TROM1] The Cloud of Unknowing

2014-01-29 Thread David Pelly
* The following message is relayed to you by trom@lists.newciv.org Check this out: http://encyclopedia.thefreedictionary.com/The+Cloud+of+Unknowing David ___ Trom mailing list Trom@lists.newciv.org http://lists.newciv.org/mai

Re: [TROM1] Retread the materials many times.

2014-01-28 Thread David Pelly
* The following message is relayed to you by trom@lists.newciv.org Before any rewriting of TROM, make sure to have a clear and working understanding of what clear and plain language means, as I posted today. And use the principles of clear and plain language writing, i

Re: [TROM1] Hello all

2014-01-28 Thread David Pelly
mprovement. Nothing in the realm of knowledge, stays the same. What was true yesterday, may or may not be true today. Thank you, Yours truly, David Pelly On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 5:15 PM, TROM wrote: > * > The following message is relayed to you by trom@

Re: [TROM1] Too much attention on postulates from the past

2014-01-28 Thread David Pelly
* The following message is relayed to you by trom@lists.newciv.org A postulate is a causitive consideration. A postulate is any causitive consideration. If I say I am going to the story tomorrow at 1 pm. That is a postulate. If I say that; Joe Blow is a stupid idiot,

[TROM1] What is the black mass composed of?

2014-01-28 Thread David Pelly
* The following message is relayed to you by trom@lists.newciv.org In plain language, from my understanding, the black mass consists of everything that is not in alignment with what is known as truth and love in this universe. It consists of traumas, upsets, unresolved con

[TROM1] What is clear language?

2014-01-28 Thread David Pelly
* The following message is relayed to you by trom@lists.newciv.org *clear language* 1. Clear Language, also known as plain language, is a set of principles that have been developed to ensure that the written language is clear. Clear language principles cover suc

Re: [TROM1] Trom Digest, Vol 114, Issue 62

2014-01-27 Thread David Pelly
submissions to > trom@lists.newciv.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.newciv.org/mailman/listinfo/trom > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > trom-requ...@lists.newciv.org > &g

[TROM1] Thought to ponder

2014-01-27 Thread David Pelly
* The following message is relayed to you by trom@lists.newciv.org A Thought to Ponder from *The Urantia Book* "Many features of human life afford abundant evidence that the phenomenon of mortal existence was intelligently planned, that organic evolution is not a mere cos

Re: [TROM1] Defining RIs

2014-01-27 Thread David Pelly
given that affirmations = importances at all times and instances. > They are two different things. > > Paul > > On Jan 26, 2014, at 11:39 AM, David Pelly wrote: > > * > The following message is relayed to you by trom@lists.newciv.org > > Paul

[TROM1] Defining RIs

2014-01-26 Thread David Pelly
* The following message is relayed to you by trom@lists.newciv.org Paul, Would you agree that the definition of the word "importances" as used in TROM in "Repair of Importances" is of comparable magnitude to "affirmations"? As defined here: An affirmation is a s

[TROM1] More on RIs/ affirmations:

2014-01-26 Thread David Pelly
* The following message is relayed to you by trom@lists.newciv.org Positive affirmations are a great tool to reprogram your unconscious mind from negative thinking to positive. The idea is to take positive statements of what you would like to see manifested, and repeat the

[TROM1] Re; TROM/ right or wrong

2014-01-26 Thread David Pelly
* The following message is relayed to you by trom@lists.newciv.org Slim, quoting you: *Is the below the COS tech . No not in any way , yet some will hold the COSdefinitions true and real while holding TROM definitions true or ingnoringthem all together and thats just ma

[TROM1] Some definitions

2014-01-26 Thread David Pelly
* The following message is relayed to you by trom@lists.newciv.org Dennis defines intelligence as: *Intelligence *This is the ability to evaluate relative importances; the ability to note differences and similarities between them. That is ok for starters, but the definit

Re: [TROM1] Correction in TROM: PD postulates

2014-01-26 Thread David Pelly
* The following message is relayed to you by trom@lists.newciv.org Pete, All creatures do come with inherent postulates. And some animals are designed to be relatively open to or conducive to domestication, which means being able to accept a human postulate. Even plan

Re: [TROM1] Hornets

2014-01-25 Thread David Pelly
* The following message is relayed to you by trom@lists.newciv.org Thanks for your helpful reply, Slim, Your posts are starting to come up the theta scale. That is good. More reply interspersed below: > > > Snipped> > > The hornets buzzing around you're descr

[TROM1] Correction in TROM: PD postulates

2014-01-25 Thread David Pelly
* The following message is relayed to you by trom@lists.newciv.org Quote from TROM book: *The PD postulates.* These are the hidden postulates in life; not because any attempt is being made to hide them, but merely because man the materialist cannot fit them into his theo

[TROM1] FYI

2014-01-24 Thread David Pelly
* The following message is relayed to you by trom@lists.newciv.org In the event any of you are interested, here is the latest on the cos: http://markrathbun.wordpress.com/2014/01/23/judge-to-scientology/ David ___ Trom mailing

[TROM1] Thought technology

2014-01-23 Thread David Pelly
* The following message is relayed to you by trom@lists.newciv.org I seen an interview on TV a day or two ago, with a young lady who invented a device that resembles a simple set of head phones, that you use to think something to happen. It is wireless of course. In the

[TROM1] Source/what video?

2014-01-23 Thread David Pelly
gt; > OH WOW, LOVED your video. Thank you for sharing. > > Blessings, > Teresa > > p.s. I don't know either...but the divine proportion structures > everything in this universe and it is beautiful! > > > > > > On Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 9:09 AM, David Pe

Re: [TROM1] Thanks/ re love and life, and success in life

2014-01-23 Thread David Pelly
u get opiniated about it, > just give it a try if you want. > > Doesn't keep you from Troming either. > > Namaste. > > Op 23-jan.-2014 om 17:03 heeft David Pelly het > volgende geschreven: > > * > The following message is relayed to you by trom@

Re: [TROM1] Thanks/ re love and life, and success in life

2014-01-23 Thread David Pelly
* The following message is relayed to you by trom@lists.newciv.org Thanks for your ack Ludo. >From the way I see it, it is more than love. The problems arise due to not living, learning, knowing and operating on the laws of this universe. Or operating on false and limit

Re: [TROM1] Alien intervention

2014-01-23 Thread David Pelly
* The following message is relayed to you by trom@lists.newciv.org Ale and Theresa, That is one very significant datum, that I really "got" from Dennis' tape on sex. And that significant datum is the about sexual energy being "ionization". When I read that, shed light

Re: [TROM1] Energy thieves: PS 3

2014-01-23 Thread David Pelly
of books that I really want to reread. People indeed do fail in any endeavor for only one reason and that is for the lack of the right knowledge to solve the problem at hand. If you had the right knowledge, you can solve any problem perfectly. So the key is to gain knowledge,

Re: [TROM1] The short question is:

2014-01-22 Thread David Pelly
* The following message is relayed to you by trom@lists.newciv.org Thanks Leoncio. I appreciate your input. David On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 5:51 AM, Leôncio Madruga wrote: > * > The following message is relayed to you by trom@lists.newciv.org >

[TROM1] The short question is:

2014-01-21 Thread David Pelly
* The following message is relayed to you by trom@lists.newciv.org How do I clear out those undesirable implants? How do I clear out those false and limiting postulates? David ___ Trom mailing list Trom@lists.newciv.org http:

Re: [TROM1] Wordless postulates

2014-01-21 Thread David Pelly
* The following message is relayed to you by trom@lists.newciv.org Sean, >> > I reread your post and had to re-ack. See intersperse below: >> >> I went through a phase, and it continues to this day in a more >> balanced less intense form, of writing and sp

Re: [TROM1] Wordless postulates

2014-01-21 Thread David Pelly
* The following message is relayed to you by trom@lists.newciv.org Thanks for your response, Sean. I ack the content. David On Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 4:58 PM, Sean Clarke wrote: > * > The following message is relayed to you by trom@lists.newciv.org > *

Re: [TROM1] Wordless postulates

2014-01-21 Thread David Pelly
* The following message is relayed to you by trom@lists.newciv.org Thanks for input Paul. More on next post. David ___ Trom mailing list Trom@lists.newciv.org http://lists.newciv.org/mailman/listinfo/trom

[TROM1] Hey Slim, Paul or anyone else: re: implants

2014-01-21 Thread David Pelly
* The following message is relayed to you by trom@lists.newciv.org I want your opinion on what to do here: I have a difficult time finding much charge now. If there is any charge, it is hardly noticeable. It is certainly not like what it used to be. In fact, I do

Re: [TROM1] Sourse

2014-01-21 Thread David Pelly
* The following message is relayed to you by trom@lists.newciv.org > Slim: *David, and Cory,* > > > *Im pefectly ok with the " its always been and will always be " concept.* > I can't wrap my mind around that idea or that concept. David

[TROM1] Energy thieves: PS 3

2014-01-21 Thread David Pelly
* The following message is relayed to you by trom@lists.newciv.org The more I focus and write on this subject, the more understanding comes to light for me on the subject. Such extreme "must not know" s and "must not be known"s are often described as "jinxes" and "tro

[TROM1] Wordless postulates

2014-01-21 Thread David Pelly
* The following message is relayed to you by trom@lists.newciv.org It is my hypothesis that there are wordless postulates. Such as the emotional state of our parents at the time they made us. As I explained in my previous email on energy vampirism. Which I hypothesize,

[TROM1] Energy thieves: PS 2

2014-01-20 Thread David Pelly
* The following message is relayed to you by trom@lists.newciv.org Another way to describe the condition is that such extreme abuse, such extreme "must not know" and such extreme "must not be known" overwhelms are actually 95% murder. The person is all but totally dead

[TROM1] Energy thieves / PS

2014-01-20 Thread David Pelly
* The following message is relayed to you by trom@lists.newciv.org You also hear women complaining that their men are "emotionally unavailable". In my opinion that condition is similar. Possibly just not as severe. I think at least part of the problem is derived from

[TROM1] Re; Tape on "Loose ends and bubbles /Energy thieves- for the record.

2014-01-20 Thread David Pelly
* The following message is relayed to you by trom@lists.newciv.org I listened to that tape and was quite perturbed at Dennis' ignorance on the subject of "energy thieves" which he goes back to the seminar where Hubbard brought the subject up in a lecture. And the way Den

[TROM1] Source

2014-01-20 Thread David Pelly
* The following message is relayed to you by trom@lists.newciv.org Slim, RE: Source: When I posted: *Says, something to the effect: everything (all of creation) always was.Then he continues with something to the effect, (without going back and rereading th

Re: [TROM1] Unstacking procedure tape

2014-01-19 Thread David Pelly
* The following message is relayed to you by trom@lists.newciv.org When I first listened to a couple of tapes by Dennis back in 2008 and 9, I listed to the ones about the grocery store and barber paradox ( and maybe there was another one) and I thought they were nonsense

Re: [TROM1] My experience with getting into doing the Postulate failure chart

2014-01-19 Thread David Pelly
d, > > This all sounds great. Looks like you are peeling away a lot of case. > Well done. > > Paul > > On Jan 18, 2014, at 3:48 PM, David Pelly wrote: > > * > The following message is relayed to you by trom@lists.newciv.org > > January 17, 2

Re: [TROM1] My experience with PFC "revised".

2014-01-19 Thread David Pelly
> > Sent from my iPhone > > On Jan 18, 2014, at 6:16 PM, David Pelly wrote: > > * > The following message is relayed to you by trom@lists.newciv.org > > > I just realized that what I just posted may be to steep a gradient for > some, so I ad

Re: [TROM1] My experience with PFC "revised".

2014-01-19 Thread David Pelly
alled memory into view again? If > it is a game, does that make it bad? > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Jan 18, 2014, at 6:16 PM, David Pelly wrote: > > * > The following message is relayed to you by trom@lists.newciv.org > > > I just r

[TROM1] My experience with PFC "revised".

2014-01-18 Thread David Pelly
* The following message is relayed to you by trom@lists.newciv.org I just realized that what I just posted may be to steep a gradient for some, so I added some more explanation, to shed more light on the process, in this version: January 17, 2014. I have been working

[TROM1] My experience with getting into doing the Postulate failure chart

2014-01-18 Thread David Pelly
* The following message is relayed to you by trom@lists.newciv.org January 17, 2014. I have been working on the postulate failure chart for a good couple of weeks now. I first had to unpack it, and take it apart line by line, word by word, concept by concept, step by s

Re: [TROM1] Hey Slim (Off topic)

2014-01-18 Thread David Pelly
* The following message is relayed to you by trom@lists.newciv.org Slim, I was just jerking your chain. I hope you survived it. Cheers, David On Fri, Jan 17, 2014 at 10:39 PM, David M. Pelly wrote: > * > The following message is relayed to you by trom@l

[TROM1] Abuser and abused persons// SP/PTS and TROM

2014-01-18 Thread David Pelly
* The following message is relayed to you by trom@lists.newciv.org A victim of abuse is known as a potential trouble source (PTS) in scientology, the victimizer is called a suppressive person. A suppressive person is someone who puts others down, invalidates his victim,

Re: [TROM1] On Dissapearance & a Happy Adventurous 2014!

2014-01-17 Thread David Pelly
g else. > > > Wishing you all the best and generally looking forward to an “infinity of > affinity”, however it plays out! > > Sean > > > ...... > Message: 2 > Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2014 09:58:02 -0500 > From: David Pe

Re: [TROM1] On Dissapearance & a Happy Adventurous 2014!

2014-01-17 Thread David Pelly
* The following message is relayed to you by trom@lists.newciv.org Thanks for your reply Sean. It is quite a well reasoned and sensible response. For convenience sake, I will reply more interspersed. > > David, > > First off, I have affinity and expe

Re: [TROM1] On Dissapearance & a Happy Adventurous 2014!

2014-01-16 Thread David Pelly
* The following message is relayed to you by trom@lists.newciv.org Sean, Thank you for your reply. Several viewpoints and responses popped into view for me. 1. It was based on pretty good reasoning. 2. But it is easy to talk like you do, when you have a pocket full

Re: [TROM1] Mistake in a tape transcript to JM, lol

2014-01-15 Thread David Pelly
* The following message is relayed to you by trom@lists.newciv.org Slim: Regarding correction on PFC: Quoting Dennis from his tape to Judith: *(Error sentence is in bold)* 14:29 That is important, that it must be… you must be certain that it’s in the “others”, it’

Re: [TROM1] Information re: spiritual interference

2014-01-15 Thread David Pelly
* The following message is relayed to you by trom@lists.newciv.org Slim, RE: Quoting you: *You posted a message a while back with an inquiry regarding some kind of beings that may be interfering with your life in some way .* *I didnt read the whole thing at the time and

[TROM1] SLIM: PS: I forgot to mention...

2014-01-14 Thread David Pelly
* The following message is relayed to you by trom@lists.newciv.org Slim, RE: PFC "forced to know". On the transcript of Dennis' reply to Judith, Dennis does say that Line 8B column seven is "Forced to know": *So you... you’ve got “must be known” over that way, origin.

[TROM1] Reply to Slim's post to my comments on PDC

2014-01-14 Thread David Pelly
* The following message is relayed to you by trom@lists.newciv.org Slim, Thank you for your reply. snipped> When I was 6 or 7 , I recall telling my sister in an arugment we had that anything is possibe, and nothing is impossible. D> I have had a similar operating d

[TROM1] TROM L5 "Postulate failure chart" expanded .....

2014-01-13 Thread David Pelly
* The following message is relayed to you by trom@lists.newciv.org The purpose of this post is to help Trommers better understand the postulate failure chart and make it easier to do. I begin with a few relevant excerpts from the TROM manual. To those doing the "Postula

[TROM1] Sedona method information for beginners

2014-01-13 Thread David Pelly
* The following message is relayed to you by trom@lists.newciv.org To TROM beginners . Here is a Sedona method instructor which I subscribe to her email lists. She holds quite frequent free sessions over the phone. You can contact her and sign up for her email. David

[TROM1] Understanding personalities as defined by TROM

2014-01-13 Thread David Pelly
* The following message is relayed to you by trom@lists.newciv.org Quote from TROM book: People do tend - repeat *tend* - to become more or less fixed in one or other of the legs of the basic game, and take on the personality characteristics of the postulate they are dra

Re: [TROM1] My invitation.

2014-01-12 Thread David Pelly
* The following message is relayed to you by trom@lists.newciv.org Slim, In the event you accept my invitation to come for coffee here, via teleportation, it is quite likely that Aarre would figure out how to get here pretty quick too. And I am sure that he would like yo

[TROM1] TROM L5 : PFC line 8B correction

2014-01-12 Thread David Pelly
* The following message is relayed to you by trom@lists.newciv.org After going through the PFC with a fine tooth comb: I discovered that to be in sync with the rest of the chart, L 5 PFC line 8B column 7 has to be "Forcing to know", and not "Forced to know". Al

Re: [TROM1] Knowledge about the ape

2014-01-11 Thread David Pelly
* The following message is relayed to you by trom@lists.newciv.org Max, Good question. It shows you are thinking and navigating. That knowledge is scattered throughout a lot of different books. You won't really find all that much in any one book. At least not from my e

[TROM1] Correction on previous post on 8 classes of overwhelm:

2014-01-07 Thread David Pelly
* The following message is relayed to you by trom@lists.newciv.org I do not understand what happened here. The previous post came to me three days late in the condition I sent it. With colors and italics. Where as the first time it came with some colors and italics missing

[TROM1] Quote from Dianetics 55 on pan determinism

2014-01-07 Thread David Pelly
* The following message is relayed to you by trom@lists.newciv.org I just had to look up something in Dianetics 55 and instead came across this interesting datum. : Quote: One of the most significant differences from man to man, is the degree to which he is willing to

[TROM1] Question everything

2014-01-06 Thread David Pelly
* The following message is relayed to you by trom@lists.newciv.org I was just starting a session of L4. And was going to start at 1 and go to 8 like the book says. So I take my sheet and read: *1. Forced to know. (Infliction) (Motivator) This category is about inflic

Re: [TROM1] basic question

2014-01-06 Thread David Pelly
* The following message is relayed to you by trom@lists.newciv.org Copy of TROM: http://www.freezoneamerica.org/pub/trompdf.pdf Another copy of TROM: http://freezoneearth.org/trom/trom5.html#levelfive Good luck, David On Mon, Jan 6, 2014 at 9:07 AM, mpinfo wrote:

Re: [TROM1] basic question

2014-01-06 Thread David Pelly
* The following message is relayed to you by trom@lists.newciv.org I think these are especially important tips for newbies: *Note:* * For the TROM initiate: * *TROM is a very steep gradient process of self help, mind improvement and spiritual development. * *That m

[TROM1] Ooops....

2014-01-06 Thread David Pelly
* The following message is relayed to you by trom@lists.newciv.org I just realized a grave mistake I made. My most sincere apology. According to the TROM text, the L4 the 8 classes of overwhelm list is run from "1 to 8". I said "8 to 1" in my revision. And the sam

[TROM1] Feedback wanted

2014-01-05 Thread David Pelly
* The following message is relayed to you by trom@lists.newciv.org To all those who have completed TROM, I would like you to read my notes over to check for any mistakes and places where something could be improved. And let me know about them, please and thank you. One

Re: [TROM1] Revised version of postulate failure cycle. (2nd time)

2014-01-05 Thread David Pelly
gainst 3 results > in the valence of 3 instead of 1. > > Steve > > > > On Saturday, January 4, 2014 4:46 PM, David Pelly > wrote: > > > Why I am posting this? I am posting this revision of the postulate > failure cycle because in my first 6 attempts with T

[TROM1] Amendment to introduction to L2 and L3 of TROM by David M Pelly 01/05/2014

2014-01-05 Thread David Pelly
* The following message is relayed to you by trom@lists.newciv.org The following is an amendment to L2 and L3 I wrote up, as a result of experience, to help the TROM initiate get through the processes easier. (Dennis warns about bogging down, but in my opinion, his langua

[TROM1] Revised version of postulate failure cycle. (2nd time)

2014-01-04 Thread David Pelly
.* *( I would like any feedback positive or negative. If you think I am wrong, in any instance, please tell me and why. If you think it is a better version, please tell me. ) * REVISION by David Pelly: The being starting at (1)SDP of "must be known" (his native postulate) is in

[TROM1] Revised version of 8 classes of overwhelm (2nd time)

2014-01-04 Thread David Pelly
classes of overwhelm on page 49, with sections carried over from page 11 for assisting in understanding and super imposed with my notes: * *[Again; I would appreciate feedback regarding if you think this is helpful or not.] * By David Pelly The eight classes of overwhelm: 1. Forced to know

Re: [TROM1] Im slim and I am the 1

2013-12-26 Thread David Pelly
* The following message is relayed to you by trom@lists.newciv.org Aarre, I have a lot of education in nutritional chemistry, supplement chemistry and body chemistry analysis and balancing, and in also a lot of other things. And I have over come a lump in my liver the

Re: [TROM1] Merry Christmas !

2013-12-20 Thread David Pelly
* The following message is relayed to you by trom@lists.newciv.org Thanks Alessandro. I wish everyone a very Merry Christmas and a happy, prosperous and clear new year too. David On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 3:05 AM, ale wrote: > * > The following message i

Re: [TROM1] asparagus

2013-12-09 Thread David Pelly
* The following message is relayed to you by trom@lists.newciv.org You are welcome Slim. I healed a lump in my liver the size of a small fist mostly by processing and diet. Thanks for your posts. David On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 2:10 PM, Slim wrote: > * > T

Re: [TROM1] Amazon authors page for Dennis

2013-12-08 Thread David Pelly
* The following message is relayed to you by trom@lists.newciv.org It doesn't make sense to make paper copies of any such books to sell them, if they can printed off the site and then taken to a office supply shop or print shop to be spiral bound for a couple of dollars.

Re: [TROM1] postulates

2013-11-30 Thread David Pelly
* The following message is relayed to you by trom@lists.newciv.org Tomorrow (Sunday) there is a show on exteriorization on CNN at 7 PM. Called "To Heaven and Back". Hosted by Anderson Cooper. David On Fri, Nov 29, 2013 at 3:33 PM, Slim . wrote: > * > The

Re: [TROM1] Fwd: R: Welcome to TROM

2013-11-18 Thread David Pelly
* The following message is relayed to you by trom@lists.newciv.org There is an Alessandro, who I think lives in Italy. I think he is on the TROM list. Although haven't heard from him for some time. David On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 6:37 PM, Jurgen Kluft wrote: > *

Re: [TROM1] Another TROM?

2013-09-29 Thread David Pelly
* The following message is relayed to you by trom@lists.newciv.org Thanks Leoncio David On Sat, Sep 28, 2013 at 10:47 PM, Leôncio Madruga wrote: > * > The following message is relayed to you by trom@lists.newciv.org > > > Hi David > > I found

Re: [TROM1] Another TROM?

2013-09-28 Thread David Pelly
* The following message is relayed to you by trom@lists.newciv.org Hi Leoncio, Is it available in pdf and if so, if you have the link, can you please post it? David On Sat, Sep 28, 2013 at 12:30 PM, Leôncio Madruga wrote: > * > The following message is re

Re: [TROM1] Fwd: Welcome to TROM

2013-08-10 Thread David Pelly
* The following message is relayed to you by trom@lists.newciv.org Pete, Telling someone this: Quoting you*: "Be sure to check out the Archive of old posts to the list on the page where you signed up for the mailing list. Many questions you have may have already been an

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