Re: [TROM1] Trom Digest, Vol 126, Issue 5

2015-01-10 Thread Svoboda Vladimir
* The following message is relayed to you by trom@lists.newciv.org My first name is Vladimir))) sometimes we put our surname first. It's all right:-) Colleen, I think the ability to distinguish some subtle nuances of human behavior will help to avoid unnecessary frustr

Re: [TROM1] Trom Digest, Vol 126, Issue 3

2015-01-07 Thread Svoboda Vladimir
* The following message is relayed to you by trom@lists.newciv.org Carole describes game strategy in the case of falling into the trap of codependence like a hard compulsive game " I must enhance - He/ she must not be enhanced but be alcoholic, degradant, and something e

Re: [TROM1] Trom Digest, Vol 123, Issue 26

2014-10-30 Thread Svoboda Vladimir
* The following message is relayed to you by trom@lists.newciv.org Colleen wrote: " I moved the stuck point of the scene in 6 directions and that brought up similar scenes from the past that were stuck with it and there was more discharge of energy (yawns)." Wow, it is exc

Re: [TROM1] Trom Digest, Vol 123, Issue 10

2014-10-11 Thread Svoboda Vladimir
* The following message is relayed to you by trom@lists.newciv.org Hi, Colleen. When I'd read your post, I remembered my thoughts about healthy/unhealthy food. Hamburgers, is it healthy or unhealthy food? How do you think? I suppose it's unhealthy or not very healthy and

Re: [TROM1] Trom Digest, Vol 121, Issue 40

2014-08-25 Thread Svoboda Vladimir
* The following message is relayed to you by trom@lists.newciv.org Jesus wrote: "As I understand it, the creative postulate brings something into existence (an effect) to be known by oneself or others, be that a thing, an idea, an identity or whatever. Then, what is the

Re: [TROM1] Trom Digest, Vol 121, Issue 36

2014-08-21 Thread Svoboda Vladimir
* The following message is relayed to you by trom@lists.newciv.org Trom is conceptual and expressed through ideas more than through specific things which could see, hear, touch, remember. The best way to learn the concepts of doing it on concrete substantive level. We ha

Re: [TROM1] Trom Digest, Vol 121, Issue 31

2014-08-17 Thread Svoboda Vladimir
* The following message is relayed to you by trom@lists.newciv.org Paul wrote: " The mechanism which entraps is 'Not Know'." Oh, yes. I see it like CDEI scale: Infinite potential of knowingness. Coexistence. Limitation of capacity and decision to NOT KNOW infinitely, b

Re: [TROM1] Trom Digest, Vol 121, Issue 29

2014-08-16 Thread Svoboda Vladimir
s of Trom digest..." > > Today's Topics: > >    1. RE Just As is. KNOW! (Colleen K. Peltomaa) >    2. Re: Feedback on "Must be Known" (Paul Tipon) >    3. Re: Trom Digest, Vol 121, Issue 26 (Svoboda Vladimir) > >

Re: [TROM1] Trom Digest, Vol 121, Issue 26

2014-08-16 Thread Svoboda Vladimir
fortunately no. > This is Boolean algebra which is used to make logical analysis. The only > numerical values allowed are zero and one. > > X can be any pustulate or thing. Y can be any postulate or thing. When these > postulates or things are used the equation equals 1 which

Re: [TROM1] Trom Digest, Vol 121, Issue 26

2014-08-16 Thread Svoboda Vladimir
zero and one.X can be any pustulate or thing. Y can be any postulate or thing. When these postulates or things are used the equation equals 1 which is everything in the universe.SincerelyPeteSent from my iPad On Aug 15, 2014, at 11:10 PM, Svoboda Vladimir <captf...@yandex.ru> wrote: *

Re: [TROM1] Trom Digest, Vol 121, Issue 23

2014-08-16 Thread Svoboda Vladimir
* The following message is relayed to you by trom@lists.newciv.org I have looked at the Tai Chi symbol : http:// www.egreenway.com/taichichuan/taichitun.htm " "The Way gave birth to unity, Unity gave birth to duality, Duality gave birth to trinity, Trinity gave birth to th

Re: [TROM1] Trom Digest, Vol 121, Issue 22

2014-08-16 Thread Svoboda Vladimir
te for the first leg of a goals package. To receive sex one must be sexed where to receive knowledge one must know. The English language is crappy at describing postulates. Sincerely Pete Sent from my iPad  On Aug 15, 2014, at 9:42 AM, Svoboda Vladimir <captf...@yandex.ru> wrote:  *

Re: [TROM1] Trom Digest, Vol 121, Issue 22

2014-08-15 Thread Svoboda Vladimir
* The following message is relayed to you by trom@lists.newciv.org OK, Pete. I'll add the algebra theme. The changing the order of items does not change the sum, if we say about logical note : XY + X(1-Y) + Y(1-X) + (1-X)(1-Y) =1 If you change x to y, you will get one

Re: [TROM1] Trom Digest, Vol 121, Issue 20

2014-08-15 Thread Svoboda Vladimir
* The following message is relayed to you by trom@lists.newciv.org Hmm...It is Interesting quest about verbs. I am seeing on the sun and thinking: What is a function of the sun? Must it Be illuminated or illuminate? I always see I am illuminated and have a sunburn. What

Re: [TROM1] Trom Digest, Vol 121, Issue 20

2014-08-15 Thread Svoboda Vladimir
* The following message is relayed to you by trom@lists.newciv.org Hmm...It is Interesting quest about verbs. I am seeing on the sun and thinking: What is a function of the sun? Must it to Be illuminated or to illuminate? I always see I am illuminated and have a sunburn.

Re: [TROM1] Trom Digest, Vol 121, Issue 12

2014-08-12 Thread Svoboda Vladimir
can reach the person managing the list at trom-ow...@lists.newciv.org  When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific  than "Re: Contents of Trom digest..."  Today's Topics:1. RE Discussion about wording of goals packages   (Colleen K. Peltoma

Re: [TROM1] Trom Digest, Vol 121, Issue 10

2014-08-12 Thread Svoboda Vladimir
* The following message is relayed to you by trom@lists.newciv.org I will emphasize the idea of equal importance of all four legs. If I must to maintain own human existence as a spiritual being ( I must be known as a human ), I also mustn't be known as someone else, and

Re: [TROM1] Trom Digest, Vol 121, Issue 8

2014-08-10 Thread Svoboda Vladimir
* The following message is relayed to you by trom@lists.newciv.org Roberto wrote: "To control I must control (outflow) or I must be controlled (inflow) To have I must let someone have something (outflow) or must have it for myself (inflow) To love I must love someone (outf

Re: [TROM1] Trom Digest, Vol 121, Issue 5

2014-08-07 Thread Svoboda Vladimir
* The following message is relayed to you by trom@lists.newciv.org OK, Pete, thank you for your attention and your work. I am reading your edition just now. It have a lot of useful explanations and give more a mass to pure logical concepts of DHS. However the name "to k

Re: [TROM1] Trom Digest, Vol 121, Issue 2

2014-08-06 Thread Svoboda Vladimir
* The following message is relayed to you by trom@lists.newciv.org Pete, I don't understand what is a problem with postulates "to know" and "to be known"? I work through original book and haven't any problem in theory and practice. PFC on the 5 level is correct absolute

Re: [TROM1] Trom Digest, Vol 120, Issue 5

2014-07-13 Thread Svoboda Vladimir
* The following message is relayed to you by trom@lists.newciv.org I see R6EW is more intellectual than sensual. There is other method: 1. Listing for "What are you dislike in present time?" 2. Rising Scale Processing for each item from previous list. P.S: You should mo

Re: [TROM1] Trom Digest, Vol 120, Issue 5

2014-07-13 Thread Svoboda Vladimir
* The following message is relayed to you by trom@lists.newciv.org I see R6EW is more intellectual than sensual. There is other method: 1. Listing for "What are you dislike in present time?" 2. Rising Scale Processing for each item from previous list. P.S: You should mo

Re: [TROM1] Trom Digest, Vol 116, Issue 51

2014-03-19 Thread Svoboda Vladimir
* The following message is relayed to you by trom@lists.newciv.org Up to the top...))) My mental stuff is created by other. I can not create my own creations. RI is sort of a horror in this condition. The Creations of others must be contributed into my own universe. I don'

Re: [TROM1] Trom Digest, Vol 116, Issue 31

2014-03-11 Thread Svoboda Vladimir
* The following message is relayed to you by trom@lists.newciv.org Hi, All. Here is a few words about 2 level, past persons. Choice a past person. Hold this person in your mind. What color are his eyes? Are his eyes blue, brown, grey, yellow... Blue? Can you find an blue

Re: [TROM1] Trom Digest, Vol 115, Issue 34

2014-02-09 Thread Svoboda Vladimir
* The following message is relayed to you by trom@lists.newciv.org May i add, Paul? IMHO, White and black is not polarity, these are "two ends of one stick". I have life goal and it is clear as a daylight. My mind is light.If I carry out this purpose I meet an opposition.

Re: [TROM1] Trom Digest, Vol 115, Issue 33

2014-02-09 Thread Svoboda Vladimir
* The following message is relayed to you by trom@lists.newciv.org I want to say about high TA too. it may be produced by the physiological reason. LRH wasn't a great physiologist)) Look at it: worldtrans.org/fgordon/emeter.html But i certain that bad mental condition ca

Re: [TROM1] Trom Digest, Vol 115, Issue 25

2014-02-07 Thread Svoboda Vladimir
* The following message is relayed to you by trom@lists.newciv.org Leo, The ethical code is applied to life purposes only. If we'll apply this code to non-life purposes it kill us and others like a job with packages of non-life goals. Put the life purposes in the code an

Re: [TROM1] Trom Digest, Vol 113, Issue 20

2013-12-12 Thread Svoboda Vladimir
* The following message is relayed to you by trom@lists.newciv.org Thank's for your feedback. I read your correction on your site "theresolutionofmind.org": " There is a valence shift on the Track between 8b and a new substitute effect entered at 1a. Also a valence shift

Re: [TROM1] Trom Digest, Vol 113, Issue 18

2013-12-11 Thread Svoboda Vladimir
* The following message is relayed to you by trom@lists.newciv.org Ah, These language's difficulties. I point to mistakes, and itself I look as an idiot.))) If somebody wants to test horrors of the online translators can read my experiences in TROM on this site: tromfree.b

Re: [TROM1] Trom Digest, Vol 113, Issue 18

2013-12-11 Thread Svoboda Vladimir
* The following message is relayed to you by trom@lists.newciv.org Hi, Slim. " There is a valence shift on the Track between 8b and a new substitute effect entered at 1a" - It's a mistake. The TIME TRACK of prime goal ( life goal) or identity goes from past to the present

Re: [TROM1] Trom Digest, Vol 113, Issue 18

2013-12-11 Thread Svoboda Vladimir
* The following message is relayed to you by trom@lists.newciv.org Hi, Slim. " There is a valence shift on the Track between 8b and a new substitute effect entered at 1a" - It's a mistake. The TIME TRACK of prime goal ( life goal) or identity goes until past to the pres

Re: [TROM1] Trom Digest, Vol 103, Issue 37

2013-02-22 Thread Svoboda Vladimir
* The following message is relayed to you by trom@lists.newciv.org 'Bringing, take out, to know, to not know' ARE the ACTIONS. Shall be made known, shall be made not-known' ARE the INTENTIONS. The possible sequence may be as this: Necessary effect- Ideal scene or image or

Re: [TROM1] Trom Digest, Vol 103, Issue 25

2013-02-17 Thread Svoboda Vladimir
* The following message is relayed to you by trom@lists.newciv.org Yes, Aarre. Your exellent example is correct when A- be known, B- to know, C-be not known, and D-to not know. ___ Trom mailing list Trom@lists.newciv.org http:

Re: [TROM1] Trom Digest, Vol 103, Issue 25

2013-02-17 Thread Svoboda Vladimir
* The following message is relayed to you by trom@lists.newciv.org Yes, Aarre. Your exellent example is correct when A- be known, B- to know, C-be not known, and D-to not know. ___ Trom mailing list Trom@lists.newciv.org http:

Re: [TROM1] Trom Digest, Vol 103, Issue 18

2013-02-10 Thread Svoboda Vladimir
* The following message is relayed to you by trom@lists.newciv.org and my 4 cents: Bonding and Cross-packaging I often observe a lot of considerations wich are fotmulated as ''if A, then B'': If I don't work, then don't survive. I work to survive. Make money or di

Re: [TROM1] Trom Digest, Vol 102, Issue 23

2013-01-26 Thread Svoboda Vladimir
* The following message is relayed to you by trom@lists.newciv.org I think cross-packaging is bonding of different things because they are seem similar. To be the girl and to wear dresses the various purposes, but they can be crossed or bonded (unconsciously or intention

Re: [TROM1] Trom Digest, Vol 102, Issue 18

2013-01-25 Thread Svoboda Vladimir
* The following message is relayed to you by trom@lists.newciv.org 24.01.2013, 23:09, "trom-requ...@lists.newciv.org" : > Send Trom mailing list submissions to > trom@lists.newciv.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://

Re: [TROM1] Trom Digest, Vol 102, Issue 16

2013-01-24 Thread Svoboda Vladimir
* The following message is relayed to you by trom@lists.newciv.org I want to cry as a woman, but I drink as a man because nobody loves me:-) Three pacages and it's difficult not to cross them. I start with drinking, and see ''to cry'' ( freely to show feelings) and see

Re: [TROM1] Trom Digest, Vol 101, Issue 5

2012-12-21 Thread Svoboda Vladimir
* The following message is relayed to you by trom@lists.newciv.org -Victor Pelevin. Buddha's Little Finger: 'And that'll do it?' 'That'll do it, Shurik,' said Volodin, dividing up the contents of the bundle, a dark heap of something dry and brittle, into three unequal

Re: [TROM1] Trom Digest, Vol 100, Issue 5

2012-11-07 Thread Svoboda Vladimir
* The following message is relayed to you by trom@lists.newciv.org It is excellent explanation! It will give more reality for beginners. I noticed that comands follow such logic: 1) BECAUSE 2), 2) because 3), etc... motivator-overt-motivator-overt... I ( motivator) becau

Re: [TROM1] Trom Digest, Vol 99, Issue 8

2012-10-23 Thread Svoboda Vladimir
m-requ...@lists.newciv.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > trom-ow...@lists.newciv.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Trom digest..." > > Today's Topics: > >    1

Re: [TROM1] Trom Digest, Vol 99, Issue 7

2012-10-17 Thread Svoboda Vladimir
* The following message is relayed to you by trom@lists.newciv.org These eight classes of overwhelm includes a beingness or viewpoint,. "Forced to know", "Preventing from being known", etc. is a space ( junior universe) where are located desirable or undesirable objects

Re: [TROM1] Trom Digest, Vol 95, Issue 21

2012-06-19 Thread Svoboda Vladimir
* The following message is relayed to you by trom@lists.newciv.org This "Re-Experiencing of incidents" is a basic method of work with a somatic strip. There are people who have somatic shut-off (an inability to feel sensations, pains or emotions).. There are many keys f

Re: [TROM1] Trom Digest, Vol 94, Issue 3

2012-05-08 Thread Svoboda Vladimir
* The following message is relayed to you by trom@lists.newciv.org Thanks Pete, Happy Harry and Leona for transcripts. I don't understand audio, but I can read and translate these texts. It's very useful material for me. I was read transcribed lectures "IP". Some people

[TROM1] Have. For what?

2012-03-20 Thread Svoboda Vladimir
* The following message is relayed to you by trom@lists.newciv.org     Paul wrote: "I still have Dennis' Postulate Failure Chart using Have if anyone is  interested".    If to work purely with the "Have" package , we receive effects, effects and once again effects. It is v

Re: [TROM1] Trom Digest, Vol 88, Issue 28

2011-11-20 Thread Svoboda Vladimir
* The following message is relayed to you by trom@lists.newciv.org The strong emphasis on the picture's importances, Leon. One significance of type " forced to know", can include one thousand, one million pictures. It as the Holder of all experiences on this theme. You w

Re: [TROM1] Trom Digest, Vol 88, Issue 2

2011-11-02 Thread Svoboda Vladimir
* The following message is relayed to you by trom@lists.newciv.org Little joke:-))) Who sees time in a linear kind: the past andpresent, then andnow - a two-dimensional being. Who can look at any scenes and understands that трак time is a two-dimensional model with

[TROM1] The Reliving of game's conditions in your daily life

2011-10-27 Thread Svoboda Vladimir
* The following message is relayed to you by trom@lists.newciv.org Hi, all. I would like to ask. When you carry out any step of the fourth or fifth level in your session, whether do you re-live this condition in your daily life? Something similar to see through the po

Re: [TROM1] Trom Digest, Vol 87, Issue 12

2011-10-16 Thread Svoboda Vladimir
* The following message is relayed to you by trom@lists.newciv.org The fine points of view! But there are postulates forcing to have a MEST- location. These postulates have a high degree of persistence and compulsion. The spiritual being recreates perceptions of past s

Re: [TROM1] Trom Digest, Vol 87, Issue 10

2011-10-12 Thread Svoboda Vladimir
* The following message is relayed to you by trom@lists.newciv.org Yes. The death is a powerful rupture of ARC Break, when a spiritual being have prevented to be known in quality spirit+mind+body ( human), and have prevented to feel, have forced to know a dying pain...

Re: [TROM1] Trom Digest, Vol 85, Issue 3

2011-08-05 Thread Svoboda Vladimir
* The following message is relayed to you by trom@lists.newciv.org Hi! Pay attention to soda ( bicarbonat natrium) use in treatment of dermal problems. There is a group of the Russian mystics, which many years drink the warmed-up milk with addition of a coffee spoon of s

[TROM1] THE STRUCTURE OF CASE

2011-07-24 Thread Svoboda Vladimir
* The following message is relayed to you by trom@lists.newciv.org Very useful article of Homer : "THE STRUCTURE OF CASE" on his http://adoretheproof.blogspot.com/2011/07/structure-of-case-minus-typos.html?spref=fb"...Unlimitedness is native.All postulates are postulates o

Re: [TROM1] Trom Digest, Vol 82, Issue 15

2011-05-28 Thread Svoboda Vladimir
* The following message is relayed to you by trom@lists.newciv.org 28.05.2011, 16:00, trom-requ...@lists.newciv.org: > Send Trom mailing list submissions to > trom@lists.newciv.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lis

Re: [TROM1] Trom Digest, Vol 82, Issue 8

2011-05-17 Thread Svoboda Vladimir
* The following message is relayed to you by trom@lists.newciv.org Hi, Leo. I like your definition. I think that "importance" is the multiple-valued term. Look at article of Ouran "SYMBOLS, MEANING AND PHYSICAL OBJECTS" in Ghost Dance. 17.05.2011, 16:00, trom-requ...@li

Re: [TROM1] Trom Digest, Vol 81, Issue 26

2011-04-08 Thread Svoboda Vladimir
* The following message is relayed to you by trom@lists.newciv.org David wrote: "I learned a long time ago, to believe nothing, that the function of believing is only that of the intellectually challenged, that the truth is not determined by authority, that nothing

Re: [TROM1] Trom Digest, Vol 81, Issue 12

2011-04-05 Thread Svoboda Vladimir
* The following message is relayed to you by trom@lists.newciv.org Glen wrote: > 5. Do something about Dennis's recommendation that some people should go > to a Scientology org and have the CCHs run.  No informed person today > would set foot in a Scientology org.  There

Re: [TROM1] Trom Digest, Vol 81, Issue 6

2011-04-03 Thread Svoboda Vladimir
* The following message is relayed to you by trom@lists.newciv.org "Just got a spiritual being who can look at scenes. You can look at the then scenes and you can look at the now scenes. And if the then scenes - if the then scenes seem a little less real than the now sce

Re: [TROM1] Trom Digest, Vol 80, Issue 7, Level Two

2011-03-24 Thread Svoboda Vladimir
* The following message is relayed to you by trom@lists.newciv.org  Hi Slim and trommers.  I agree with message of Slim, but I would underline that level 2 not only finding of the past, but it is also the realized, conscious control of the mechanism for re-activation of

Re: [TROM1] Trom Digest, Vol 79, Issue 19

2011-02-26 Thread Svoboda Vladimir
* The following message is relayed to you by trom@lists.newciv.org My favourite video. So it is possible to finish session. This guy runs on 5 level TROM! See it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6MT20SW9Z0&feature=fvw 25.02.2011, 15:00, trom-requ...@lists.newciv.org: > Se

Re: [TROM1] Trom Digest, Vol 79, Issue 13

2011-02-15 Thread Svoboda Vladimir
..@lists.newciv.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > trom-ow...@lists.newciv.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Trom digest..." > > Today's Topics: > >    1. Mak

[TROM1] Makyo

2011-02-14 Thread Svoboda Vladimir
* The following message is relayed to you by trom@lists.newciv.org Aare wrote: "Is Makyo a short form (acronym) for something?  I haven't heard of that onу  before. I heard about  Makyo in Zen. When you sit with the straightened back, like the emperor, in zazen and create

Re: [TROM1] Trom Digest, Vol 79, Issue 4

2011-02-09 Thread Svoboda Vladimir
* The following message is relayed to you by trom@lists.newciv.org I want to state very important information for me about significances created in RI. These two messages resound that I have found out in my last sessions: "I have of late, whilst doing RI, been creating im

Re: [TROM1] Trom Digest, Vol 79, Issue 4

2011-02-09 Thread Svoboda Vladimir
* The following message is relayed to you by trom@lists.newciv.org Aarre wrote: Within 30>  seconds, I get so relaxed that my eyes want to close, and I feel like I had>  5 Melatonin capsules.  I feel the urge to go to sleep.  It mellows me out so>  much.  I have to struggl

Re: [TROM1] Trom Digest, Vol 78, Issue 35

2011-01-23 Thread Svoboda Vladimir
* The following message is relayed to you by trom@lists.newciv.org  I'd like to give a specific example too. Sweets at nuclear level is a certain combination of MEST. The person defines this combination as sweets. Sweets have the sweet taste, some color, the form and so

Re: [TROM1] Trom Digest, Vol 78, Issue 22

2011-01-08 Thread Svoboda Vladimir
* The following message is relayed to you by trom@lists.newciv.org Slim wrote: " If you're not sure you've finished Levels 2 or 3 , you haven't  :  ) You'll know, when you cant find anything else to general timebreak . Thats when you go for the specifics of level 4 a

[TROM1] Different ways to know. An example.

2011-01-01 Thread Svoboda Vladimir
* The following message is relayed to you by trom@lists.newciv.org So it has turned out that we are separated from each other and in very big degree we are SECRET for each other. People are separated from each other in space and at times it is very difficult to reproduce

Re: [TROM1] To Michel

2010-12-29 Thread Svoboda Vladimir
* The following message is relayed to you by trom@lists.newciv.org Michel wrote: > Hello David, > I don't know why you think you are totally OK to throw dirt at Slim. > I have been enjoying his insights and I would say that if you don't like him, > than don't read his stu