Well thought out, Izzy. And well stated, too. Any
disagreements I might have are so slight as to not even be worth bringing up
under this circumstance. Thank you and kudos.
Bill
PS, Izzy. I just read it again and I mean a REALLY
BIG KUDOS!
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Shiel
John wrote > If "sanctify" is more
than "to set apart," what are the additional nuances?
Hi John,
The distinction I am drawing is not at all adverse
to the idea that sanctify means to set apart. What I am saying is that
sanctification, if it is truly going to sanctify us, has to be
From:
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Sent: Sunday, February 13, 2005
10:16 PM
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Original
Sin
In a message dated 2/12/2005 11:39:40 AM Pacific Standard
Time, [EMAIL PROTECTE
Blaine wrote see below**
-- "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Joseph Smith wrote:
>> Nevertheless I fell into transgression and
>> sinned in many things which brought wound
>> upon my Soul [sic] and there were many things
>> which transpired that cannot be writen [sic] and
>> my Fathers [
I'm putting my thoughts about all this squabbling about Jesus' nature
under a new heading, as it had nothing to do with mormons. For what it's worth,
(nothing to Lance and friends I’m sure) here are my two cents:
1) I believe in "Original Sin"
only as it means that we are born with t
In a message dated 2/12/2005 11:39:40 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Thanks for the answer, David. Why do you think Jesus did not say, "And for their sakes I give them the example of myself, that they also may be sanctified by truth"? He said that sort of thing at other time
Good enough then.
Bill
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From: "Terry Clifton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:
Sent: Sunday, February 13, 2005 8:35 PM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Mormons and Street Preachers
> Bill Taylor wrote:
>
> >I will say this for you, Terry: at least you are willing to admit that
your
Bill Taylor wrote:
I will say this for you, Terry: at least you are willing to admit that your
Jesus is a hybrid. The Greeks had no problems with that (as I explained
yesterday, if you had been reading), they had a pantheon of them. But Judy
wants to hold onto the same idea, without admitting to it
I will say this for you, Terry: at least you are willing to admit that your
Jesus is a hybrid. The Greeks had no problems with that (as I explained
yesterday, if you had been reading), they had a pantheon of them. But Judy
wants to hold onto the same idea, without admitting to its source. Kudos to
Terry wrote > I cannot understand fully plus fully. It does not compute.
Not even when it's been explained to you? Hmmm. It sounds to me like you
are not trying. You once spoke of your 130 IQ. What do you do with the 90%
you are ignoring? Send it over to me if you like; I'll put it to work
. . . But it has become an alloy -- in the case of Jesus: a demigod.
Bill
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From: "Terry Clifton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:
Sent: Sunday, February 13, 2005 7:33 PM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Mormons and Street Preachers
> Bill Taylor wrote:
>
> >Terry wrote > I obvio
And neither is it pure Coffee, nor pure milk.
Bill
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From: "Terry Clifton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:
Sent: Sunday, February 13, 2005 7:33 PM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Mormons and Street Preachers
> Bill Taylor wrote:
>
> >Terry wrote > I obviously see things in a much
Bill Taylor wrote:
Terry wrote > I obviously see things in a much less complex manner than you, and I cannot quite grasp why it is so important to dissect every word and argue over things none of us can fully understand. You were just as saved before you knew Greek as you are now.
I think that
jt: Do you believe the first
Adam was "something other than human" also?
Hi Judy,
I take it you are speaking of the first
Adam in his pre-fallen state. And so, the answer is, No, I do not believe
he was something other than human -- neither do I believe that Adam needed
"saved" prior t
Terry wrote > I obviously see things
in a much less complex manner than you, and I cannot quite grasp why it is
so important to dissect every word and argue over things none of us can
fully understand. You were just as saved before you knew Greek as you
are now.
I think that when Paul
That's the wrong question, Kevin. We can discuss
the particulars of those natures if you like, but Judy's claim is that
Jesus did not have TWO natures. Do you agree with
her?
Bill
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From:
Kevin
Deegan
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: Sund
he died | now
he lives again <-- basically, the two distinct inseparable
natures of JC in play in NT history
G
2/13
Bill: "who believe[s] that
Jesus did not have two natures "[?]
--
On Sun, 13 Feb 2005 15:27:22 -0500 Judy Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
..not all of us (me incl
Bill Taylor wrote:
Judy wrote > It wasn't unnoticed Lance but not all of us (me included) believe that Jesus had two natures.
Would all those who believe that Jesus did not have two natures -- one fully human, the other fully divine -- please weigh in? (the Mormons may exclude themselves if the
In a message dated 2/13/2005 9:50:26 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Gary:When you are right.Bill Taylor wrote a ma
Which two natures are you asking about?
Human/Divine
Impeccability/peccability of ChristBill Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Judy wrote > It wasn't unnoticed Lance but not all of us (me included) believe that Jesus had two natures.
Would all those who believe that Jesus did not have tw
Judy wrote > It wasn't unnoticed Lance but
not all of us (me included) believe that Jesus had two
natures.
Would all those who believe that Jesus did not have
two natures -- one fully human, the other fully divine -- please weigh in? (the
Mormons may exclude themselves if they wish). It
It wasn't unnoticed Lance but not all of us
(me included) believe that Jesus had two natures.
We fallen ones
are the double natured and double
minded ones (after we have received Him and
have been born of the Spirit) and before we grow into the unity of the faith.
Why didn't you respond to
JT I forgot the mention that Satan can give us feelings all over the place
What about these "burning bosoms"?
How about seducing spirits? Do they allure the heart or the mind?
Seducers are more dangerous enemies to the church than persecutors. Matthew Henry
The unattended garden will soon be
Gary:When you are right.Bill Taylor wrote a
masterful treatment on the two natures of Christ. It went largely
unnoticed. And you...you're good you! (Crystal/DeNiro) I hope it works out
the three of you to spend that time together.
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From:
[EMAIL PRO
while it's actually
funny/friendly, it's cool, kinda like chocolate which is better than
pops--some is usually sufficient for most
ppl
On Sun, 13 Feb 2005 11:24:02 -0600 "ShieldsFamily" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
writes:
I’d hate to see TT
rule out the banter and joking that makes us lau
I’d hate to see TT rule out the
banter and joking that makes us laugh and consider each other to be friends—and
lightens what can be heavy (or dull) subject matter. Izzy
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Sent: Sunday, February 13, 2
the style of the post, below, is
appreciated--it simply, but effectively, recognizes the fact that
most detailed data, reporters info, corollary pics, etc., are
best left to be viewed on their original servers--topics of interest can be
isolated and addressed here via 'cut and paste' (e.g.,
Oophs!
I forgot the mention that Satan can give us feelings
all over the place
What about these "burning bosoms"?
My manic-depressive friend had received so much secular
counselling that she was trained to hone in on feelings.
Everything was "and how did that make you
feel?"
It wasn't unt
Right! We have received freely so we are to give
freely giving folks the option to be free.
At Pleasant Valley they had a sign on the wall
"Feelings come and feelings go and feelings are
deceiving
My warrant is the Word of God, none else is
worth believing"
To which I say Amen
FEELINGS WOOA WOOA WOOA FEELINGS
Some men just want to hear the applause of other men
Like the scholar
The bible tells us to study not to become a fishless fisherman. An expert on all the stuff we DO NOT DO.
If I was into warm fuzzies would I be a street preacher?
When my first child was born I w
Here is another eyewitness from the Mesa AZ LDS Easter Pag
http://www.ripoffreport.com/view.asp?id=26988
http://www.ripoffreport.com/view.asp?id=26994
http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/ripoff27006.htm
http://www.ripoffreport.com/view.asp?id=27020
Notice how Mormons phrase things such as handing o
JD: Well, you have certainly proven this point --
and a fine testimony to anti-intellectualism you are. I mean, after
listening to you for, h, a couple of minutes, one not only sees
little value in Continuation Schooling, one sees little point is bullhorn
discussions. We
There is nothing like an EYEwitness
Judy Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Can't remember whether or not I've posted this; they are tidbits from a friend who corresponds with our daughter. He has always lived in SLC, has been looking for a life partner and is not a Mormon. This guy was raised
UTTERly Ridiculous
Written like a true perfectionist[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In a message dated 2/12/2005 6:34:03 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
"The intellectuals are coming; the intellectuals are coming !! There goes the nieghborhood [sic]Written like a true
OH NO your self image cropped up again
Attempted manipulation of feelings can not pass for an answer.
Stop yer yellin & screamin
The Prerequisite for christian UNITY is Membership
2 CO 13:5 Examine yourselves, whether ye be IN the faith; prove your own selves. Know ye not your own selves, ho
Can't remember whether or not I've posted this; they
are tidbits from a friend who corresponds with our daughter. He has
always lived in SLC, has been looking for a life partner and is
not a Mormon. This guy was raised in the Christian Science sect and
apparently he does not find the "stree
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