Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz

2005-06-02 Thread knpraise
Do you understand that I believe that "event sin" can be stop immediately but other types of sin cannot? There are addictions, character failures such as pride and selfishness thatare the foundationfor other sin AND are listed as sin (selfishness is a sin but it is not an event).There are sins of

Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz

2005-06-02 Thread knpraise
z-Original Message-From: Kevin Deegan [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Wed, 1 Jun 2005 19:29:47 -0700 (PDT)Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz jd saz

Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz

2005-06-02 Thread knpraise
I guess I could do the same with you all -- just not interested in the little things like should be. Jd-Original Message-From: ShieldsFamily [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Wed, 1 Jun 2005 20:51:20 -0500Subject: RE: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz Sometimes

Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz

2005-06-02 Thread knpraise
this subject is truly a waste of time. I can, in fact, teach the full gospel of grace to anyone using any of the bibles in print today. JD-Original Message-From: Kevin Deegan [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Wed, 1 Jun 2005 21:01:00 -0700 (PDT)Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re:

Re: [TruthTalk] Perry vs DaveH

2005-06-02 Thread Lance Muir
DH asks: 1. Did Jesus' ...By some, yes. Your counterpart would be:The reindentification of 'who jesus is' by JS. One need not extend this thinking far to conclude that either the LDS are the 'true christians' or those that reflect the teaching of Nicea. You do see this do you not? ONCE IT

Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz

2005-06-02 Thread Terry Clifton
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do you understand that I believe that "event sin" can be stop immediately but other types of sin cannot? There are addictions, character failures such as pride and selfishness thatare the foundationfor other sin AND are listed as sin (selfishness is a sin but

Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz

2005-06-02 Thread Charles Perry Locke
John, I have to agree. I otherwise might not agree, but I met a man who came with his wfe to a Bible study I was in some years ago. He was raised in a home in which his mother and father were involved in drugs from before he was born. He would go with them to make buys, and witness them use

Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz

2005-06-02 Thread Kevin Deegan
those who disagree share a much narrower definition of sin than I Do you call "What is Sin?" a broad definition? [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do you understand that I believe that "event sin" can be stop immediately but other types of sin cannot? There are addictions, character failures such as

Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz

2005-06-02 Thread Kevin Deegan
When they heard these things, they were cut to the heart, and they gnashed on him with their teeth. Then they cried out with a loud voice, and stopped their ears, and ran upon him with one accord, And cast him out of the city, and stoned him Seems you have the same "religious" spirit. [EMAIL

Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz

2005-06-02 Thread knpraise
My Bible of choice is the NASV and the transltors of that publication have the verse reading " Every one who practices sin also practices lawlessness and sin is lawlessness." But more than this, I Jo 5:17 tells us that "all unrighteousness is sin." I Jo 1:8 gives us the truth that "if we

Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz

2005-06-02 Thread Kevin Deegan
I can, in fact, teach the full gospel of grace to anyone 2 Co 11:15 Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works.Lots of people teach lots of things![EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: this subject is

Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz

2005-06-02 Thread knpraise
Call me crazy but I call it a QUESTION ! -Original Message-From: Kevin Deegan [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Thu, 2 Jun 2005 06:24:38 -0700 (PDT)Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz those who disagree share a much narrower definition of sin

Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz

2005-06-02 Thread Kevin Deegan
My Bible of choice is the NASV Same bible as the NWT (JW bible)[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My Bible of choice is the NASV and the transltors of that publication have the verse reading " Every one who practices sin also practices lawlessness and sin is lawlessness." But more than this, I Jo

Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz

2005-06-02 Thread knpraise
ZZ-Original Message-From: Kevin Deegan [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Thu, 2 Jun 2005 06:26:46 -0700 (PDT)Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz When they heard these things, they were cut to the heart, and they gnashed on

Re: [TruthTalk] Perry vs DaveH

2005-06-02 Thread Dave Hansen
Lance Muir wrote: DH asks: 1. Did Jesus' ...By some, yes. Your counterpart would be:The reindentification of 'who jesus is' by JS. One need not extend this thinking far to conclude that either the LDS are the 'true christians' or those that reflect the teaching of Nicea. You do

[TruthTalk] What is sin?

2005-06-02 Thread David Miller
John wrote: Do you understand that I believe that event sin can be stop immediately but other types of sin cannot? There are addictions, character failures such as pride and selfishness that are the foundation for other sin AND are listed as sin (selfishness is a sin but it is not an

[TruthTalk] Obesity

2005-06-02 Thread David Miller
John wrote: Fat people (and I suspect there are more fat people on this forum than one would suppose) victimize themselves with the addiction of gluttony. Sin Management teaches them that this is destructive behavior (ala sin) and encourages them to modify or postpone their eating . If

Re: [TruthTalk] Perry vs DaveH

2005-06-02 Thread Lance Muir
No 'knows'rings here, Dave. Why don't you more actively enter the conversation by offering your own summary of what's been said thus far. Then, please let me know your opinion/thoughts. - Original Message - From: Dave Hansen To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent:

RE: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz

2005-06-02 Thread ShieldsFamily
Are those the only body parts you are missing, or are you holding out on us, JD? (Sounds like a likely story to me!) Iz PS I find the typos to be very entertaining! From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005

RE: [TruthTalk] Obesity

2005-06-02 Thread ShieldsFamily
Yum!!! Can we have dessert first? Iz -Original Message- Eating a meal about every 3 hours will cause the body's metabolism to speed up and the storage of fat becomes less necessary. Peace be with you. David Miller. -- Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with

RE: [TruthTalk] What is sin?

2005-06-02 Thread ShieldsFamily
David, thanks for this: I think it will help me understand where JD is coming from much better. Iz -Original Message- John wrote: Some sins stop -- but others only decrease in influence. I think you are confusing the source of sin, temptation, with sin itself. I also

Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz

2005-06-02 Thread knpraise
Well, you're living proof of that !!-Original Message-From: Kevin Deegan [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Thu, 2 Jun 2005 06:35:02 -0700 (PDT)Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz I can, in fact, teach the full gospel of grace to anyone 2 Co 11:15

Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz

2005-06-02 Thread Kevin Deegan
And since it is clearly stated, we can teach that there are TWO Gods from your NASV[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, you're living proof of that !!-Original Message-From: Kevin Deegan [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Thu, 2 Jun 2005 06:35:02 -0700 (PDT)Subject: Re:

Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz

2005-06-02 Thread Kevin Deegan
the work of Catholic scholars It is amazing how some can stand the facts on their head. The UBS text used for the Moderne Bibles: Jesuit cardinal Carlo Maria Martini (1927- ) is the Roman Catholic Archbishop of Milan. Since 1967,has been one of the editors of the United Bible Societies Greek

Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz

2005-06-02 Thread Lance Muir
It is wise for one to remember that the Word of God is Jesus Christ. It is also wise to remember that His (God's) Words do not return void. Take care, Kevin, not confuse your role with that of the Spirit of God. I've found God to be at work EVEN THROUGH THE KJV! Just imagine! Speaking of

Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz

2005-06-02 Thread Christine Miller
I agree, Lance, that the Lord can and does use His word in all its translations, including the NIV with its errors and sodomite commitee members. I have found that the newest generation overwhelmingly favors the NIV translation, and when we are out preaching, many college students by my side use

Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz

2005-06-02 Thread Lance Muir
(Wo)man Oh (Wo)man (for the purpose of inclusivity) how I wish that this were not chip/block thingy. Sophmoric logic becomes you, young lady. - Original Message - From: Christine Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: June 02, 2005 18:35 Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re:

[TruthTalk] John's Epistle

2005-06-02 Thread David Miller
John wrote: My Bible of choice is the NASV Our sympathy is with you. Please go on... :-) John wrote: and the transltors of that publication have the verse reading Every one who practices sin also practices lawlessness and sin is lawlessness. Good. We know that we are not to be lawless,

Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz

2005-06-02 Thread Kevin Deegan
The Bibles that have out out lies and ERRORS in them can not possibly be God's word. It may say Bible, it may look like a Bible, but a FALSE WITNESS utters lies! The Word of God is recorded in the Bible that we may know what is required of us and that we might DO IT! Tell me what you make of

Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz

2005-06-02 Thread Kevin Deegan
Who (other than JD) would trust his life and the life of his wife and children, to a very old car that had 15,000 repair jobs done on it; and that by persons who knew little or nothing of what they were doing; whose work was slovenly and betrayed complete incompetence to do the repairs? Christine

Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz

2005-06-02 Thread Kevin Deegan
Have you ever seen the 2 "oldest and Most reliable manuscripts", Christine? VATICANus and SainaiticusIf you would like to inspect them maybe you can get a pass from the pope for the vatican library.Just a few changes here and there - oh well rev A or rev B whats your preference?If you have eyes

Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz

2005-06-02 Thread Kevin Deegan
the Lord can and does use His word in all its translations Do you find that this is a Bible principle that God uses Heathen Pagans, Heretics especially when conveying His word? God has used Donkeys, in the past. Christine Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I agree, Lance, that the Lord can and does

Re: [TruthTalk] Judy and John on the Law and the Spirit

2005-06-02 Thread ttxpress
what do you think, isn'ttherean interesting correlation betw NTdiscipleship and NT apostleship--perhapsthe formerentails the latter? On Tue, 31 May 2005 16:18:44 -0400 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: || something to think about. JD-Original Message-From: [EMAIL

RE: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz

2005-06-02 Thread Charles Perry Locke
Izzy, I felt your post below was a bit tacky. I speak as your brother, not as moderator. From: ShieldsFamily [EMAIL PROTECTED] Are those the only body parts you are missing, or are you holding out on us, JD? (Sounds like a likely story to me!) Iz -- Let your speech be always with

Re: [TruthTalk] Judy and John on the Law and the Spirit

2005-06-02 Thread knpraise
Expand on this , please. JD-Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Thu, 2 Jun 2005 19:43:24 -0600Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Judy and John on the Law and the Spirit what do you think, isn'ttherean interesting correlation betw NTdiscipleship and NT

RE: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz

2005-06-02 Thread ShieldsFamily
Why is that Perry? When folks start make good-natured fun of JD's typo's suddenly he tells us he has two missing fingers. Now how long have we known JD and he is just now telling us that? Do you believe it? If we complain that he is not making sense is he going to suddenly confess that he had a

RE: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz

2005-06-02 Thread Charles Perry Locke
Izzy, first of all, it is none of your business if anyone on this group has a malady, or is missing appendages. What do you mean, he is just now telling us? What makes you think you even entitled to know this, or that he is obligated to tell you? Second, John gave us a valid reason for his

Re: [TruthTalk] Perry vs DaveH

2005-06-02 Thread Dave Hansen
DAVEH: Time is my biggest enemy, Lance. I started a big reply to one of DavidM's posts about 3 or 4 weeks ago, and it is only half finished. Right now I'm running a sleep deficit, and having fallen asleep early last night at my computer while reading TT stuffI am going to try to lurk more

Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz

2005-06-02 Thread knpraise
I love sinless people. JD-Original Message-From: ShieldsFamily [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Thu, 2 Jun 2005 21:51:47 -0500Subject: RE: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz Why is that Perry? When folks start make good-natured fun of JD's typo's suddenly he

Re: [TruthTalk] Obesity

2005-06-02 Thread knpraise
I was illustrating "sin management," David. Who said anything about slowing down ones metabolism? No me. But let's stay on track and avoid a food fight. JD -Original Message-From: David Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Thu, 2 Jun 2005 11:18:38 -0400Subject:

Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz

2005-06-02 Thread knpraise
Perhaps her problem is compounded by Deegan's continual theme that I am a liar?-Original Message-From: ShieldsFamily [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Thu, 2 Jun 2005 21:51:47 -0500Subject: RE: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz Why is that Perry? When folks

Re: [TruthTalk] Perry vs DaveH

2005-06-02 Thread Blainerb473
In a message dated 6/1/2005 9:09:01 PM Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Satan is an imitator. And a liar. So was JS. He never entered into The Kingdom for sure. Izzy Blaine: Is this your best shot Izzy? If it is, I'd say you are struggling.