Re: [TruthTalk] Re:WWCofG lives on

2005-06-06 Thread Marlin halverson
Sunday worship in your eyes is then a symptom of what? Kevin Deegan I believe it, instead of Sabbath keeping, is a symptom of the strong delusion mentioned in 2 Thesolonians 2 and a fulfillment of Isaiah 56.   - Original Message - From: Kevin Deegan To: TruthTalk@mail.i

Re: [TruthTalk] JS is a False Priest according to Blaine

2005-06-06 Thread Kevin Deegan
It is not about me.Dave Hansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Kevin wrote:The fact that LDS have to attack the Bible speaks loudly.DAVEH:  With your delivery, do you really expect anybody to take you seriously, Kevin?Kevin Deegan wrote: You are confusing.   Did you mean do not take me too seriously?-

Re: [TruthTalk] Apocrypha

2005-06-06 Thread Kevin Deegan
I gave, Can't move that finger?[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I gave my reference.   Too many possibilities to put  in post form.     Jd  -Original Message-From: Judy Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgCc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Mon, 6 Jun 2005 20:31:36 -0400Sub

Re: [TruthTalk] Perry vs DaveH

2005-06-06 Thread Kevin Deegan
Thanks, Perry for letting us know, that the concordance was accepted as scripture until at least 2005Charles Perry Locke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: What? I thought Maps was the last book in the Bible, after the book of Concordance!>From: Kevin Deegan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>Reply-To: TruthTalk@mail.inn

Re: [TruthTalk] Apocrypha

2005-06-06 Thread Kevin Deegan
Just one more reason to avoid the NA NA based on the oldest & best mss which contain the Apoc interspersed in it. Corrupt roots - corrupt tree.   Why not post so we can see?   Otherwise you could say Hebrews 11:35 compared to Barney channel 12[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:   pp. 800-804 of the Nestle-

Re: [TruthTalk] Apocrypha

2005-06-06 Thread Kevin Deegan
Silence is goldenDavid Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: John wrote:> Christ and or the New Testament writers> quoted from most of them, themselves.Please reference where Christ and the New Testament writers quoted from the Apocrypha.Peace be with you.David Miller. --"Let your speech be alw

Re: [TruthTalk] A review of Lance Muir

2005-06-06 Thread Kevin Deegan
Well what would you do if you were a great warrior who SAT on the sidelines everyday while Goliath Blasphemed God? Especially when God could not find a man so he sent a boy. How does that make the Parade Rest crowd look?   DU 32 And Moses said unto the children of Gad and to the children of Reuben,

RE: [TruthTalk] Clowning Around

2005-06-06 Thread Charles Perry Locke
Perry the Clown wrote to Blaine: PRODUCE THE PHOTOS [of perry the clown] OR RETRACT YOUR MISCHARACTERIZATION OF MY COUNTENANCE! Looks like the mormon boys are tag-teaming me. But, I must confess. I did not think anyone would find my clown picture on the internet (in fact, I forgot it was eve

Re: [TruthTalk] Perry vs DaveH

2005-06-06 Thread Charles Perry Locke
What? I thought Maps was the last book in the Bible, after the book of Concordance! From: Kevin Deegan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Perry vs DaveH Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2005 21:17:51 -0700 (PDT) Twisting the facts

Re: [TruthTalk] JS is a False Priest according to Blaine

2005-06-06 Thread Dave Hansen
Kevin wrote: The fact that LDS have to attack the Bible speaks loudly. DAVEH:  With your delivery, do you really expect anybody to take you seriously, Kevin? Kevin Deegan wrote: You are confusing.   Did you mean do not take me too seriously? -- ~~~ Dave Hansen [EM

Re: [TruthTalk] Perry vs DaveH

2005-06-06 Thread Dave Hansen
Street preachers just quote what it says.  Izzy DAVEH:  Then why do some feel the need to wave underwear? ShieldsFamily wrote: DaveH, There are TT'ers who get criticized for quoting what the Bible says by those who don't quote what it says, but replacewhat it says with their own idea

[TruthTalk] Definition of Salvation

2005-06-06 Thread Dave Hansen
DAVEH:  I find that interesting, Judy.  DavidM said that being born again is the definition of salvation.  Do you agree with that?  If so, can two people (at least one of which is walking in darkness) who are born again have different interpretations of doctrines?  IOWcan somebody be saved

Re: [TruthTalk] Re:WWCofG lives on

2005-06-06 Thread Dave Hansen
DAVEH:  You are never too old to have your picture posted on the TT members page!   How about it, Marlinwhy don't you submit a picture to DavidM so we can see what you look like?   (If that is too much trouble for you, I think I saw some when I was searching for Perry's picture that may loo

Re: [TruthTalk] Perry vs DaveH

2005-06-06 Thread Kevin Deegan
Matthew Mark, Luke, bel & the Dragon? only in the Catholic counterfiets!Judy Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Do you know the history of the apocrypha JD?  I have a copy and in the flyleaf it says they were written well after the close of the Old Testament during times of national unrest and tha

Re: [TruthTalk] Perry vs DaveH

2005-06-06 Thread Dave Hansen
DAVEH:  I find that interesting, Lance.    May I ask how high (that may be a poor way of describing it) is your faith?  IOW, on a scale of 1 to 10, where 10 is an absolute abiding faith in Jesus, and 5 is a mediocre faith, and 1 is a bare shadow of a faithwhere do you feel you fit on that s

Re: [TruthTalk] Re:WWCofG lives on

2005-06-06 Thread Kevin Deegan
Sunday worship in your eyes is then a symptom of what?Marlin halverson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Do you believe Sunday Worship is the mark of the beast? Kevin Deegan Although it, instead of Sabbath keeping, may be a symptom, it is not 'the' mark of the beast.    - Original Message -

Re: [TruthTalk] Perry vs DaveH

2005-06-06 Thread Kevin Deegan
Twisting the facts to mislead. Do you accept your maps as part of the bible until 2005? LOL[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What I said is plainly stated. Make of it what you will.     Jd  -Original Message-From: Judy Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgCc: TruthTalk@mail.in

Re: [TruthTalk] Perry vs DaveH

2005-06-06 Thread Kevin Deegan
JD reaches back into his dusty old shelf of misinformation. The Apocrypha was part of the corrupt mss The apocrypha was not part of the 1611 it was printed as a tool like the maps we have in our bibles, not interspesed as part of the text as in the Oldest & best manuscripts The apocryphal books we

Re: [TruthTalk] Perry vs DaveH

2005-06-06 Thread Kevin Deegan
Was there no scripture in the first century? The poor Jews without God's word, hah?[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When did the Bible come into existence  --  before or after the Revelation?   There was no book called the "Bible" in first century times.   But, certainly, we should not be adding to what

Re: [TruthTalk] Perry vs DaveH

2005-06-06 Thread Kevin Deegan
Yes how about it Lance?Lance Muir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Now, CPL, how 'bout answering me?.- Original Message - From: "Charles Perry Locke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: Sent: June 06, 2005 13:59Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Perry vs DaveH> Blaine, I did not make that comment. It is from Lance. Whi

Re: [TruthTalk] Perry vs DaveH

2005-06-06 Thread Kevin Deegan
Sort of like the LDS owned News creating the story SP's call brides whores & break up wedding parties AND The Brian david Mitchell AKA Immanuel The Mormon who kidnapped Elizabeth Smart (around 14 years old) because "god" told him to take her as a plural wife. The LDS owned news called him ( Ex LDS

[TruthTalk] Clowning Around

2005-06-06 Thread Dave Hansen
PRODUCE THE PHOTOS OR RETRACT YOUR MISCHARACTERIZATION OF MY COUNTENANCE! DAVEH:  Can it be an AH attack if there are pictures to prove it, Perry.  :-D Charles Perry Locke wrote:   Third, it is an ad hominem attack to call me a clown  unless you have photos of my huge red nose, fri

Re: [TruthTalk] Perry vs DaveH

2005-06-06 Thread Kevin Deegan
Thats right he just copied whole sections verbatim, of the KJV Bible in Elizabetan English and ascribed it to a bunch of Jews[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 6/6/2005 10:39:50 AM Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: You are wrong again, Blaine.  Revelations says that no o

Re: [TruthTalk] Perry vs DaveH

2005-06-06 Thread Kevin Deegan
"If they speak not according to this word it is because there is NO LIGHT in them"Judy Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: No you draw the line when something is written that conflicts with what has previously been written because God is not doubleminded, nor does He contradict Himself.   On Mon, 6

Re: [TruthTalk] Perry vs DaveH

2005-06-06 Thread Kevin Deegan
Did you formulate any answers yet Lance?Lance Muir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: CPL:You actually expect Blaine to take this 'foolishness' seriously?- Original Message - From: "Charles Perry Locke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: Sent: June 06, 2005 12:56Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Perry vs DaveH> Blaine,

Re: [TruthTalk] Perry vs DaveH

2005-06-06 Thread Dave Hansen
DAVEH:   Can you blame them?  Seems like it may be a defensive technique.  If they quote a passage, they may fear being criticized as proof-texting. ShieldsFamily wrote: DaveH, regarding your previous question, please take note of this technique of the Bible quote haters:  Instead of

Re: [TruthTalk] Apocrypha

2005-06-06 Thread knpraise
I gave my reference.   Too many possibilities to put  in post form.     Jd  -Original Message-From: Judy Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgCc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Mon, 6 Jun 2005 20:31:36 -0400Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Apocrypha I don't think the write

Re: [TruthTalk] Apocrypha

2005-06-06 Thread Judy Taylor
I don't think the writer of Hebrews is quoting 2 Macc 5:18 seems a bit of a leap to me JD - But you claim NT writers quoted from most of them - what are the others??   2 Macc 6:18 Eleazar, one fo the scribes in high position, a man now advanced in age and of noble presence, was being forced t

Re: [TruthTalk] Apocrypha

2005-06-06 Thread knpraise
  pp. 800-804 of the Nestle-Aland Greek New Testament, 27th edition (Novum Testamentum: Graece et Latine, published by Deutsche Bibelgesellschaft).   an example  --   Hebrewes 11:35 compared to 2 Maccabees 6:18 - 7:42 -Original Message-From: David Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: TruthTalk@mai

RE: [TruthTalk] The World Takes Care of It's Own

2005-06-06 Thread Judy Taylor
No problem. Yes we should love and care for ppl, giving them a glass of cold water in the name of Christ. Visiting them in prison, and taking and interest in widows and orphans.  jt   From: "Charles Perry Locke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Judy, I agree. I do not think it is going to get a lot better,

Re: [TruthTalk] Perry vs DaveH

2005-06-06 Thread Judy Taylor
Actually I still don't know what you said JD because no New Testament writer that I am aware of quotes from the apocrypha at all.  What is your point?  Since you don't like being misunderstood I would think you'd be glad to tell me.  jt   On Mon, 06 Jun 2005 18:22:06 -0400 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wr

[TruthTalk] Damaged Goods

2005-06-06 Thread Ruben Israel
You just never know who is going to email you these days.   This documentary was filmed about two years ago regarding AIDS in Hollywood and my wife and I saw this film last year at the theater, funny to see yourself on the big screen.  Just last week I spoke with the producer that filmed f

Re: [TruthTalk] A review of Lance Muir

2005-06-06 Thread David Miller
John wrote: > For all I know, he might think that arrogance > can be a good thing - of the Lord. No, I do not think arrogance is a good thing, but I'm not sure you appreciate the difference between confidence in the Lord and arrogance. David's brother thought he was arrogant when he inquired a

[TruthTalk] Apocrypha

2005-06-06 Thread David Miller
John wrote: > Christ and or the New Testament writers > quoted from most of them, themselves. Please reference where Christ and the New Testament writers quoted from the Apocrypha. Peace be with you. David Miller. -- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you

Re: [TruthTalk] Perry vs DaveH

2005-06-06 Thread knpraise
  Yes I do.   You apparently missed my point.     -Original Message-From: Judy Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgCc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Mon, 6 Jun 2005 17:34:27 -0400Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Perry vs DaveH Do you know the history of the apocrypha JD

Re: [TruthTalk] Perry vs DaveH

2005-06-06 Thread Charles Perry Locke
What I typed was intentional. I have heard the word used as an intentional mispronunciation of bosom since I was a kid. Lance indicated to me that to some it may mean something a little different. I have heard it used in that sense before, but by no means thought that it meant that exclusively.

RE: [TruthTalk] Perry vs DaveH

2005-06-06 Thread Charles Perry Locke
From: Kevin Deegan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> But the Mormon teaching Manuals say the Prophet is the ONLY man allowed to add or subtract. To/from his harem? ShieldsFamily <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:You are wrong again, Blaine. Revelations says that no one is to add or subtract from the Bible.

RE: [TruthTalk] The World Takes Care of It's Own

2005-06-06 Thread Charles Perry Locke
Judy, I agree. I do not think it is going to get a lot better, regardless of how much money the world throws at the problem. However, as I am sure you will agree, we should help where we can, and where it will make a difference. Although we certainly cannot end all of the suffering in the world

RE: [TruthTalk] Exerpts

2005-06-06 Thread Kevin Deegan
JD has had such with DM, Izzy, JT and KD Can anyone in the history of TT match that record?ShieldsFamily <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Oh, yeah. One for you. Dozens for JD. Izzy -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED][mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Charles Perry LockeSent: Monday, Jun

Re: [TruthTalk] Perry vs DaveH

2005-06-06 Thread Judy Taylor
Do you know the history of the apocrypha JD?  I have a copy and in the flyleaf it says they were written well after the close of the Old Testament during times of national unrest and that the spirit of the books reflect the Hebrew ppl's response to the conflict and tensions of this period of

Re: [TruthTalk] Lets pull out!

2005-06-06 Thread Kevin Deegan
Just as long as we leave the politicians thereShieldsFamily <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Subject: FW: Lets pull out!> Subject: Interesting Statistic>> If you consider that there've been an average of 160,000 troops in > combat theater of war during the last 22 months, that gives a firearm > death rat

Re: [TruthTalk] Perry vs DaveH

2005-06-06 Thread Kevin Deegan
Blaine:  If they look and act the same, I must be justified in assuming they are the same.    You must be a RIOT at the TWINS Birthday party! READ the Bible not your funny Ensign magazines! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Blaine:  If they look and act the same, I must be justified in assuming they are

Re: [TruthTalk] Re:WWCofG lives on

2005-06-06 Thread Marlin halverson
Do you believe Sunday Worship is the mark of the beast? Kevin Deegan Although it, instead of Sabbath keeping, may be a symptom, it is not 'the' mark of the beast.    - Original Message - From: Kevin Deegan To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Monday, June 06, 2

RE: [TruthTalk] Perry vs DaveH

2005-06-06 Thread Kevin Deegan
But the Mormon teaching Manuals say the Prophet is the ONLY man allowed to add or subtract.ShieldsFamily <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: You are wrong again, Blaine.  Revelations says that no one is to add or subtract from the Bible.  Did you miss that part? Izzy From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMA

Re: [TruthTalk] Perry vs DaveH

2005-06-06 Thread Kevin Deegan
ROTFL! Burning in the BAZOOM? Did you make that up or a typo "Bosom"Charles Perry Locke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Whoa, Blaine. Is your "witness of the spirit" that subjective heartburn feelings mormons say they get? AKA, the burning in the bazoom? Do you have any biblical references that this bur

Re: [TruthTalk] Perry vs DaveH

2005-06-06 Thread Kevin Deegan
Blaine says All since Christ supercedes that law.  How do you account for all that?   How do I account for it? You just made it up!   Blaine says OT and refers to the Law of Moses only So you do not accept the OT? It is not applicable for today? This is contrary to the word of God ALL scripture not

Re: [TruthTalk] Perry vs DaveH

2005-06-06 Thread knpraise
What I said is plainly stated. Make of it what you will.     Jd  -Original Message-From: Judy Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgCc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Mon, 6 Jun 2005 17:16:35 -0400Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Perry vs DaveH The "apocrypha" were not part

Re: [TruthTalk] Love and good works

2005-06-06 Thread knpraise
We see the book very differently, Judy.    I had hoped you would actually deal with this question:    So, what is your teaching about works of benevolence  (see James 1:27 and 2:16) and the relationship those works have to our faith?     Maybe next time ??   JD-Original Message-From: J

Re: [TruthTalk] Perry vs DaveH

2005-06-06 Thread Judy Taylor
The "apocrypha" were not part of the Jewish scriptures JD - are you saying that the Bereans may have been checking out Paul's teaching by them? - have you read them?   On Mon, 06 Jun 2005 17:09:01 -0400 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:     http://www.greatsite.com/timeline-english-bible-

Re: [TruthTalk] JS is a False Priest according to Blaine

2005-06-06 Thread Kevin Deegan
You are confusing.   Did you mean do not take me too seriously?[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:         Blaine:  Don't take me too personally, Kevin.  I was hoping you guys would laugh with me, but,  . . .  I must have gotten to you w/o intending to.   Are we having fun yet, Kev?  :>)      In a message

Re: [TruthTalk] Perry vs DaveH

2005-06-06 Thread knpraise
    http://www.greatsite.com/timeline-english-bible-history/   You may find this interesting.   As far as "adding" to the bible  -- did you know that the Apocrapha was a part of nearly all Bibles until the mid to late 1800's.   The so-called "Prostestant bible" is a little over 120 yers old.  Chri

RE: [TruthTalk] Exerpts

2005-06-06 Thread Kevin Deegan
Because he changes his story so much even he can't remember the latest revision.ShieldsFamily <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: JD why is it that you are the ONE individual who is in constant quibbles about "I didn't say that," "Yes I did," "You said thus and such,"  "You are lying about what I said," 

RE: [TruthTalk] Perry vs DaveH

2005-06-06 Thread Kevin Deegan
LOL sounds like 3 card Monty or PrestO ChangeO ShieldsFamily <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: DaveH, regarding your previous question, please take note of this technique of the Bible quote haters:  Instead of specifically quoting a particular statement to explain their views they throw an entire chapte

[TruthTalk] The World Takes Care of It's Own

2005-06-06 Thread Judy Taylor
I hear what you are saying Perry .. but realistically can you perceive a time when all the despots and all evil is gone from the world before the Second Coming when Jesus rules and reigns?  The scriptures tell us that evil will increase as the end draws closer - In Daniel wrote that God's pe

Re: [TruthTalk] Love and good works

2005-06-06 Thread Judy Taylor
    On Mon, 06 Jun 2005 13:42:03 -0400 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It occurs to me in studying James, chapters 1 and 2,   that his argument for justification by works (James 2:24) has everything to do with benevolent ministries.    To begin with James did not make any such argum

RE: [TruthTalk] The World Takes Care of It's Own

2005-06-06 Thread Charles Perry Locke
People don't starve because there is not enough food in the world. People starve because despotic rulers cut off supply chains to starve the people so they will not rise up and overthrow the despots. No amount of money will fix those types of problems...but getting rid of the depots will. Perr

Re: [TruthTalk] Perry vs DaveH

2005-06-06 Thread Charles Perry Locke
Sorry, Lance, I took your question to be rhetorical since 'foolishness' was in quotes. So, here is your answer. I consider questions 1, 2, and 4 to be serious questions that Blaine can answer, and questions for which I expected (or at least hoped for) an answer. Question 3 I consider to be an ex

Re: [TruthTalk] Perry vs DaveH

2005-06-06 Thread Judy Taylor
What were the more noble Bereans of Acts 17:11 checking Paul's teaching against?  Also your favorite epistle James is said to have been written by the Lord's brother only 15yrs following the ascension.  Could we be missing something here JD?   On Mon, 06 Jun 2005 14:03:19 -0400 [EMAIL PROTECTE

[TruthTalk] The World Takes Care of It's Own

2005-06-06 Thread Judy Taylor
Bob Geldof Launches Live 8 ConcertsOn July 13th 1985 two unique simultaneous concerts called Live Aid were held in London and Philadelphia with a goal of easing the suffering of millions of victims of famine in Africa. Live Aid raised over $100 million but

Re: [TruthTalk] Perry vs DaveH

2005-06-06 Thread Judy Taylor
God was around before John the apostle wrote what is now called the Revelation of Jesus Christ, and so were the books of Deuteronomy and the Wisdom of Proverbs.   On Mon, 06 Jun 2005 14:03:19 -0400 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: When did the Bible come into existence  --  before or after t

Re: [TruthTalk] Exerpts

2005-06-06 Thread knpraise
thank you.   Jd  -Original Message-From: Charles Perry Locke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Mon, 06 Jun 2005 09:40:26 -0700Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Exerpts Actually, Izzy, it was not that long ago that Dave and I were having just such a squabble.  Perry  >From: "

Re: [TruthTalk] Perry vs DaveH

2005-06-06 Thread knpraise
When did the Bible come into existence  --  before or after the Revelation?   There was no book called the "Bible" in first century times.   But, certainly, we should not be adding to what God has said.   Jd -Original Message-From: Judy Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: TruthTalk@mail.innglor

Re: [TruthTalk] Perry vs DaveH

2005-06-06 Thread Lance Muir
Now, CPL, how 'bout answering me? . - Original Message - From: "Charles Perry Locke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: June 06, 2005 13:59 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Perry vs DaveH > Blaine, I did not make that comment. It is from Lance. While most of use > place our OWN name before a statem

Re: [TruthTalk] Perry vs DaveH

2005-06-06 Thread Charles Perry Locke
Blaine, I did not make that comment. It is from Lance. While most of use place our OWN name before a statement we make, Lance places the name of the person he is addresseing before his comment. I guess that is the way it is done in Canada :-) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: TruthTalk@mail.i

Re: [TruthTalk] Re:WWCofG lives on

2005-06-06 Thread Kevin Deegan
But do you (personally) believe such? Do you believe Sunday Worship is the mark of the beast?Marlin halverson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: That assessment is like seeing a piece of the cow up so close that you do not know what you are looking at.  It is like saying, "I'm looking at a black mark sur

Re: [TruthTalk] Perry vs DaveH

2005-06-06 Thread Blainerb473
  Shechinah is a Hebrew word, which means "the Presence."  It refers to the brillance of light that marks the presence of the Lord, and was borrowed from the Hebrew by Christians.  See Matt17:5, and Acts 7:55. Moses must have felt it, since after spending forty days and forty nights in it's

Re: [TruthTalk] Love and good works

2005-06-06 Thread knpraise
  -Original Message-From: Judy Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgCc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Mon, 6 Jun 2005 10:06:20 -0400Subject: [TruthTalk] Love and good works [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It occurs to me in studying James, chapters 1 and 2,   that h

Re: [TruthTalk] JS is a False Priest according to Blaine

2005-06-06 Thread Kevin Deegan
No implying Here Blaine I declare JS as a False Prophet, teacher and Pervert. The facts bear that out. You can not be serious! You have a double standard, what else should we expect from the most persecuted people in the world? You called CPL a clown see your own post belowYou have a wierd sense

Re: [TruthTalk] JS is a False Priest according to Blaine

2005-06-06 Thread Kevin Deegan
No implying Here Blaine I declare JS as a False Prophet, teacher and Pervert. The facts bear that out. Blaine,First, you said "associating JS with OTHER false priests"...these are YOUR words, and you imply JS was ALSO a false priest...if you had NOT wanted to include him you should have said "asso

Re: [TruthTalk] Perry vs DaveH

2005-06-06 Thread Kevin Deegan
That is just because you are not worthy of the "MEAT" of Mormonism. LDS counsel to pinch your nose, avoid the stench at all costs, take a big Camel swallowJudy Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: ISAIAH 8:20 - BofM does not pass the smell test   On Mon, 6 Jun 2005 12:05:50 EDT [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [TruthTalk] Perry vs DaveH

2005-06-06 Thread Blainerb473
Interesting comment, CPL.  :>) Blaine   In a message dated 6/6/2005 11:06:26 AM Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: CPL:You actually expect Blaine to take this 'foolishness' seriously?- Original Message - From: "Charles Perry Locke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: Sent

Re: [TruthTalk] C S Lewis

2005-06-06 Thread Kevin Deegan
Lance maybe you will enjoy   http://www.theheartofthematteronline.com/archive.asp?archiveID=1260   C.S. Lewis: Christian Apologist or Counterfeit Christian? Discover Yahoo! Have fun online with music videos, cool games, IM & more. Check it out!

Re: [TruthTalk] C S Lewis

2005-06-06 Thread Kevin Deegan
Lance maybe you will enjoy   http://www.theheartofthematteronline.com/archive.asp?archiveID=1260   C.S. Lewis: Christian Apologist or Counterfeit Christian? Discover Yahoo! Get on-the-go sports scores, stock quotes, news & more. Check it out!

Re: [TruthTalk] Perry vs DaveH

2005-06-06 Thread Judy Taylor
No you draw the line when something is written that conflicts with what has previously been written because God is not doubleminded, nor does He contradict Himself.   On Mon, 6 Jun 2005 13:18:43 EDT [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Yeah, but what about all that has been written since?  Where do

Re: [TruthTalk] Perry vs DaveH

2005-06-06 Thread Blainerb473
I see you have not read Charlotte's Web.  It is about a spider that spun webs with English words incorporated, which in turn were assumed by Humans to refer to the pig who lived in the sty beneath the webs.   These descriptive adjectives were then assumed to be the pig's character traits. 

Re: [TruthTalk] JS is a False Priest according to Blaine

2005-06-06 Thread Charles Perry Locke
Glad my comedic bent is entertaining to you, my friend. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] JS is a False Priest according to Blaine Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2005 13:16:08 EDT Blaine: Are we having fun yet, Perry? I

Re: [TruthTalk] Perry vs DaveH

2005-06-06 Thread Lance Muir
In the movies sometimes they don't care about what God said. - Original Message - From: ShieldsFamily To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: June 06, 2005 13:05 Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Perry vs DaveH After God said not to add to it? I think NOT. Izzy

Re: [TruthTalk] Perry vs DaveH

2005-06-06 Thread Lance Muir
It does Perry but, I'd not expect a young innocent like yourself to know that. No, don't do any research. - Original Message - From: "Charles Perry Locke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: June 06, 2005 13:16 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Perry vs DaveH > Lance, > >If "bazoom" has some oth

Re: [TruthTalk] Love and good works

2005-06-06 Thread Kevin Deegan
JD lecturing on Good works is like a gangster lecturing on good morals! Better to do anything, than to do nothing.   It is the height of lunacy to lecture on evangelism when one does NONE. Same with good works   Other than a guilty conscience, what is it that drives a "believer" to tell a SP ho

Re: [TruthTalk] JS is a False Priest according to Blaine

2005-06-06 Thread Blainerb473
  Blaine:  Are we having fun yet, Perry?   I am.    In a message dated 6/6/2005 10:18:35 AM Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Blaine,   First, you said "associating JS with OTHER false priests"...these are YOUR words, and you imply JS was ALSO a false priest...if you had

Re: [TruthTalk] Perry vs DaveH

2005-06-06 Thread Blainerb473
Yeah, but what about all that has been written since?  Where do you draw the line, when no more can be written?  Blaine   In a message dated 6/6/2005 10:45:50 AM Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I say that God is ONE and His Word is ONE.  Jesus Christ God's Word is t

Re: [TruthTalk] Perry vs DaveH

2005-06-06 Thread Judy Taylor
Myth - It is finished already And this warning is not only in Revelation, it is also in Deuteronomy and in Proverbs.   On Mon, 6 Jun 2005 13:01:12 -0400 "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: In 'Prophecy: The Uprising' they go on to FINISH the book of Revelations. From: Shields

Re: [TruthTalk] Perry vs DaveH

2005-06-06 Thread Charles Perry Locke
Lance, If "bazoom" has some other meaning to you than just an intentional mispronunciation of "bosom", which I have heard used before but did not associate anything more than that, then I apologize for not considering that to some it might imply something more, and did not intend for it to b

Re: [TruthTalk] Perry vs DaveH

2005-06-06 Thread Kevin Deegan
Can both be right?Dave Hansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: DAVEH:  Do you really believe that any discrepancy about doctrinal interpretations between two believers is a result of at least one of them loving darkness?  Or..do you think two true believers can have a legitimate disagreement about wh

Re: [TruthTalk] Perry vs DaveH

2005-06-06 Thread Blainerb473
In a message dated 6/6/2005 10:39:50 AM Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: You are wrong again, Blaine.  Revelations says that no one is to add or subtract from the Bible.  Did you miss that part? Izzy Blaine: I have never seen that part, since it does not even exist.  T

Re: [TruthTalk] Perry vs DaveH

2005-06-06 Thread Charles Perry Locke
Blaine, Where in the Bible does anyone "feel" the Shekinah? "...and the mormon moses said, "I felt it! I felt it! Did you feel it? Just for a moment there I felt it!", Blaine 3:12-15, BBV. The shekinah was a HUGE column of smoke by day, and a column of fire by night. I guess if you were in

Re: [TruthTalk] Perry vs DaveH

2005-06-06 Thread Lance Muir
CPL:You actually expect Blaine to take this 'foolishness' seriously? - Original Message - From: "Charles Perry Locke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: June 06, 2005 12:56 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Perry vs DaveH > Blaine, in your usual style, you have not answered my questions, yet expect

RE: [TruthTalk] Perry vs DaveH

2005-06-06 Thread ShieldsFamily
After God said not to add to it? I think NOT. Izzy From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance MuirSent: Monday, June 06, 2005 11:01 AMTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: Re: [TruthTalk] Perry vs DaveH In 'Prophecy: The Uprising' they go on to FINISH the book

Re: [TruthTalk] Perry vs DaveH

2005-06-06 Thread Lance Muir
CPL: 'bazoom'? IMO not necessary. .. - Original Message - From: "Charles Perry Locke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: June 06, 2005 12:36 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Perry vs DaveH > >Whoa, Blaine. Is your "witness of the spirit" that subjective heartburn > feelings mormons say they get

RE: [TruthTalk] Exerpts

2005-06-06 Thread ShieldsFamily
Oh, yeah. One for you. Dozens for JD. Izzy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Charles Perry Locke Sent: Monday, June 06, 2005 10:40 AM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Exerpts Actually, Izzy, it was not that long ago

Re: [TruthTalk] Perry vs DaveH

2005-06-06 Thread Charles Perry Locke
Are you so gullible that YOU believe everything that is in print? Like the Book of Mormon, Pearl of Great Price, and the D&C. E. B. White, the author of Charlotte's Web, was born in 1899. How could the story be a basis for what E. B. Stennhouse wrote in 1875??? Perry From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [TruthTalk] Perry vs DaveH

2005-06-06 Thread Lance Muir
In 'Prophecy: The Uprising' they go on to FINISH the book of Revelations. - Original Message - From: ShieldsFamily To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: June 06, 2005 12:38 Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Perry vs DaveH You are wrong again, Blaine.  Revelations

Re: [TruthTalk] Perry vs DaveH

2005-06-06 Thread Blainerb473
In a message dated 6/6/2005 10:36:57 AM Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Have you ever seen the Sheikinah yourself? Blaine:  The Shekinah is a greatly amplified version of what is otherwise known as the Spirit of the Holy Ghost.    I have definitely felt it numerous tim

Re: [TruthTalk] Perry vs DaveH

2005-06-06 Thread Charles Perry Locke
Blaine, in your usual style, you have not answered my questions, yet expect me to answer yours. Let me list them out for you...after you answer them, then list yours out and I will take a stab at answering them: 1. Is your "witness of the spirit" that subjective heartburn feelings mormons say

Re: [TruthTalk] Perry vs DaveH

2005-06-06 Thread Blainerb473
Blaine:  Are you so gullible you believe anything just because it is in print?  Go see the movie, Charlotte's Web. Ha! that is the basis for the whole story.    In a message dated 6/6/2005 10:36:57 AM Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:    Have you ever seen the Sheikinah your

Re: [TruthTalk] Perry vs DaveH

2005-06-06 Thread Blainerb473
Perry, how can you speak with any authority about what I feel or what other LDS feel, subjectivity being what it is?  You take a heavy position, presuming to speak for others.  All else aside, however, how do you account for JS's fire of the first vision that did not consume being so similar

Re: [TruthTalk] Perry vs DaveH

2005-06-06 Thread Judy Taylor
I say that God is ONE and His Word is ONE.  Jesus Christ God's Word is the same "Yesterday, Today, and Forever" He is revealed in the Law and the Prophets and He has yet to supercede any of it - not the least jot or tittle   On Mon, 6 Jun 2005 12:32:16 EDT [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

[TruthTalk] Lets pull out!

2005-06-06 Thread ShieldsFamily
Subject: FW: Lets pull out! > Subject: Interesting Statistic > > If you consider that there've been an average of 160,000 troops in > combat theater of war during the last 22 months, that gives a firearm > death rate of 60 per 100,000. > > The rate in Washington, DC is 80.6 per 100,000. That

RE: [TruthTalk] Exerpts

2005-06-06 Thread Charles Perry Locke
Actually, Izzy, it was not that long ago that Dave and I were having just such a squabble. Perry From: "ShieldsFamily" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org To: Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Exerpts Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2005 11:30:56 -0500 JD why is it that you are the ONE individ

RE: [TruthTalk] Perry vs DaveH

2005-06-06 Thread ShieldsFamily
You are wrong again, Blaine.  Revelations says that no one is to add or subtract from the Bible.  Did you miss that part? Izzy From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Monday, June 06, 2005 10:06 AMTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: Re: [T

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