Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding

2006-02-15 Thread knpraise
LOL -- Original message -- From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Four hours later and it looks like that beer has kicked in!  :-)   David Miller. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org ; TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org

Re: [TruthTalk] Greek Present Indicative

2006-02-15 Thread knpraise
David, I really wish you would read my posts carefully.  You just do not do this.  I have said many times, now.  that my received teaching in "biblical languages"  first year Greek back in the 60's was this:  "present indicative active " pictures continuing action in present time with no end in si

Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding

2006-02-15 Thread ttxpress
    since the writer's fallability lies within understanding which he equally obviously cannot understand, then all of his understanding is fallible, inc his comment 'I understand that Jesus is the Messiah'    On Wed, 15 Feb 2006 22:20:13 -0500 "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:..I

Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding

2006-02-15 Thread ttxpress
myth (the fallibility in part is that it has nothin' to do with the NT gospel; is that it is basic to false doctrine)     On Wed, 15 Feb 2006 22:20:13 -0500 "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >some of my understanding is infallible[:] I understand that Jesus is the Messiah.    

Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding

2006-02-15 Thread David Miller
David Miller wrote: >> If this were true, then the Scriptures are >> no standard at all. Are you saying that >> our understanding of Scripture is ALWAYS >> prone to error and therefore none of us can >> be sure that we understand the Scriptures, ever? John wrote: > Actually, David, it is all the

Re: [TruthTalk] Fem. God- Dave H. get bathing suit.

2006-02-15 Thread ttxpress
myth (but, yes, you are well versed in fundamentalist policy)   On Wed, 15 Feb 2006 09:38:18 -0500 "Dean Moore" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: We go to the sure word of God

Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding

2006-02-15 Thread David Miller
Four hours later and it looks like that beer has kicked in!  :-)   David Miller. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org ; TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 3:02 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The

Re: [TruthTalk] Greek Present Indicative

2006-02-15 Thread knpraise
    -- Original message -- From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> John, this was sent to the list when I think you were off the list.  Does it make sense to you?  Do you care to comment?   David Miller.   - Original Message - From: David Miller To: TruthTalk

Re: [TruthTalk] Behind the scenes conversations re:David Miller

2006-02-15 Thread Dean Moore
cd: I am surprised and disappointed that you would be any part of this sin David. > [Original Message] > From: David Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Date: 2/15/2006 6:45:59 PM > Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Behind the scenes conversations re:David Miller > > Blaine, considering that I am an ident

Re: [TruthTalk] Behind the scenes conversations re:David Miller

2006-02-15 Thread David Miller
Blaine, considering that I am an identical twin myself, I do understand how what you just said would be a reality check for astrology. :-) David Miller Born March 3, 1960 4:50 am Cleveland, Ohio. In a snow blizzard that dumped 24 inches of snow. > David Miller > > p.s. Blaine... my astrologica

Re: [TruthTalk] Behind the scenes conversations re:David Miller

2006-02-15 Thread Dean Moore
cd: David my advice- for what its worth- is to leave this astrology garbage alone -as God said to do. 2. The power which celestial bodies are supposed to exert on terrestrial; as the influence of the planets on the birth and fortunes of men; an exploded doctrine of astrology. a 46:9 Remember t

[TruthTalk] Greek Present Indicative

2006-02-15 Thread David Miller
John, this was sent to the list when I think you were off the list.  Does it make sense to you?  Do you care to comment?   David Miller.   - Original Message - From: David Miller To: TruthTalk Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2006 5:33 PM Subject: [TruthTalk] Greek Present Indicative J

Re: [TruthTalk] Behind the scenes conversations re:David Miller

2006-02-15 Thread Blainerb473
In a message dated 2/13/2006 3:55:37 P.M. Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Funny.  I just don't see David as ever having been young.  :-)   jd   -- Original message -- From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > You guys are just u

Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding

2006-02-15 Thread David Miller
John wrote: >>> ... I speak as one who is leadership. David wrote: >> What is your leadership position >> in your local church? John wrote: > Pastor. I am one no matter where I > attend. Does it sound arrogant for me > to tell you that I am the pastor of Sanger, > California? No, not necessar

Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding

2006-02-15 Thread knpraise
I can harley weight une  till I can to learn to right like you or  Dean may be.   jd   -- Original message -- From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Unfortunately, you seem to be writing like Gary more and more every day. > Your corrections did not help me much in under

Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding

2006-02-15 Thread David Miller
A beer in the morning? Isn't that a sign of alcoholism? You really have us worried now, John! :-) David Miller. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org ; TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 11:43 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTa

Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding

2006-02-15 Thread David Miller
Unfortunately, you seem to be writing like Gary more and more every day. Your corrections did not help me much in understanding what you were trying to say. David Miller - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org ; TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org ; TruthT

Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding

2006-02-15 Thread David Miller
John, which is easier to comprehend? Sin or Christ? Jesus Christ is far beyond the understanding of any one person. I'm not sure anyone on earth fully understands Jesus Christ. The subject of sin, however, is much more basic and easy to understand. Furthermore, it is the only criteria of Go

Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding

2006-02-15 Thread knpraise
"overall mass of the group"  -  is this a fat joke?    -- Original message -- From: "Dean Moore" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>         - Original Message - From: To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org;TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 2/15/2006 9:31:49 AM Subject

Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding

2006-02-15 Thread knpraise
My comments below.   . John wrote:> You know how I feel about the scriptures.No, I really do not.  Do you believe that the Scriptures are the infallible Word of God?  Are the Scriptures a standard to which all believers must align themselves? You mean "Do you, John, believe as I do about the scrip

Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding

2006-02-15 Thread David Miller
Yeah, you guys must be paranoid. I have no idea what that something else in my mind might even be. No wonder people say that I tend to be naive. I'm still waiting for your answer about Scripture and authority. Why dodge such basic questions? David Miller. - Original Message - From

Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding

2006-02-15 Thread knpraise
Does this memo from DM mean that he will, also, leave off personal obsevatiosn about our intellectual [in]abilites, our standing with God in Christ and all such related issues?    We can only hope for the best.  Looking forward to the day we only discuss issues.  Until then,  I will continue to  

Re: [TruthTalk] Fem. God- Dave H. get bathing suit.

2006-02-15 Thread knpraise
Californians do not argue with stop signs.  We just ignore them !!!   jd -- Original message -- From: Dave Hansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> DAVEH:   Nice to see your sense of humor has not escaped you, Dean! :-D Dean Moore wrote: cd: Don't be one of those people who would

Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding

2006-02-15 Thread David Miller
Do you have it posted on a website somewhere? How can we hear it? David Miller. - Original Message - From: "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 9:13 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding That which he (they actually- Martin Scott of

[TruthTalk] fw. prayer request

2006-02-15 Thread knpraise
A Son-In-Law's wishes sent to you all.    I hope we can pray this prayer regardless.    jd     According to the weather reports it is 122 degrees in Iraq right now - and the low will be 111!  Our troops need our prayers for strength, endurance and safety.   If it be God's will, give these men a

Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding

2006-02-15 Thread Dean Moore
      - Original Message - From: To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org;TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 2/15/2006 9:49:25 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding Every single item on the list is an argued belief from either you or Judy Taylor.  You don't like it because w

Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding

2006-02-15 Thread knpraise
You have no idea what the "it" I am speaking of is - quite obviously jd The "it" I am speaking of is not your "it,"  it (read "it") is mine.  And I know exactly what that "it" is.   Any questions?   I'm going to go have a beer.     jd    -- Original message -- From: Judy T

Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding

2006-02-15 Thread knpraise
Sorry about this post.  My wife called me to "breakfast !!" and I tried to put the rockets into high gear.  My apologies.  My little fingers -- all eight of them, do their thing while I do mine.  Reconciliation , it seems, is quite the personal reality when it comes to [my] writing.  I have been g

Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding

2006-02-15 Thread Judy Taylor
You have no idea what the "it" I am speaking of is - quite obviously - so I wouldn't be crowing about anything to do with me or BSF if I were you JD lest you be found to be a liar.  Just keep laughing until the men in the white coats arrive   On Wed, 15 Feb 2006 16:13:35 + [EMAIL PROT

Re: [TruthTalk] Fem. God- Dave H. get bathing suit.

2006-02-15 Thread Dean Moore
      - Original Message - From: Dave Hansen To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 2/15/2006 10:37:55 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fem. God- Dave H. get bathing suit. DAVEH:   Nice to see your sense of humor has not escaped you, Dean! :-D Dean Moore wrote: cd: Don't be one of

Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding

2006-02-15 Thread knpraise
Judy speaks of BSF and tells us "it works>"    LOL   I will be amending my list through the weekend.  Official BSF appraisal of said beliefs will be shared with this forum.  Should be interesting.  Again  --  Judy's name will not be used.  This is not about her, it is about her doctrine.    jd  

Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding

2006-02-15 Thread knpraise
As for Christology, that does matter, but not nearly so much as sin. Believers who testify that they are addicted to sin and so is everybody else is of much more serious concern than those whose Christology seems defective.   DM   I find this humorously off course.   To put anything ahead of Chris

Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding

2006-02-15 Thread knpraise
Dean, we have buried you in scripture so many times that it is no longer funny.  Just becasue you quote scripture that is without explanation and completely off subject.  The esoteric leadings that "gave" you these passages of thought is the very beginning of a cult and is borne of the occult.   N

Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding

2006-02-15 Thread knpraise
Well,  interesting qustion.   Two examples.  Dean recently told G not to be belligerent.  I thought to myself  -  is this an order from King Moderator or just a passing statement in the course of debate.  We no longer know, do we?    Secondly,  when DM questioned me about scripture and the author

Re: [TruthTalk] Fem. God- Dave H. get bathing suit.

2006-02-15 Thread Dave Hansen
DAVEH:   Nice to see your sense of humor has not escaped you, Dean! :-D Dean Moore wrote: cd: Don't be one of those people who would argue with a stop sign John.   -- ~~~ Dave Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.langlitz.com ~~~ If you wish to rec

Re: [TruthTalk] Fem. God- Dave H. get bathing suit.

2006-02-15 Thread Christine Miller
Of course, Lance. My reason for making the post in the first place was to bless others, and not just Dean. I wanted to point out that JD was not saying something constructive there. Perhaps you are right, that I did not bless as much as I could have, because I did not include the scipture I h

Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding

2006-02-15 Thread knpraise
Simple.   Don't change my wording.  Own up to what you pass off as doctrine.  That would be a good start.   jd   -- Original message -- From: "Dean Moore" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> cd: How can one argue with your type of reasoning John?       - Original Message - Fro

Re: [TruthTalk] Fem. God- Dave H. get bathing suit.

2006-02-15 Thread Judy Taylor
Ppl didn't have to sin "before the cross" either JD. Otherwise Jesus would not have told the woman caught in adultery to "go and sin no more lest a worse thing come upon you"  We are ignorant of these things because we cling to mens doctrines that do not equate sin with destruction and death

Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding

2006-02-15 Thread Judy Taylor
    On Wed, 15 Feb 2006 14:49:25 + [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Every single item on the list is an argued belief from either you or Judy Taylor.  You don't like it because when it is all put together, it is rather embarrassing.  The "cult" thingy is written all ofver this type of

Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding

2006-02-15 Thread knpraise
What specifics on the list have I misunderstood, Dean?  Please enlighten us.   jd   -- Original message -- From: "Dean Moore" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>         - Original Message - From: To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org;TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 2/14/2006 6:0

Re: [TruthTalk] Fem. God- Dave H. get bathing suit.

2006-02-15 Thread knpraise
Excellent demonstration of proof-texting (again.)    Your quote of John 5:14  --   when was the indwelling spirit given taht enables us to "sin no more?"  Before or after the cross?     jd   -- Original message -- From: "Dean Moore" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>         -

[TruthTalk] The door to understanding

2006-02-15 Thread Judy Taylor
Oophs!! Lance, shot yourself in the foot. How are you ever gonna figure out what DM is about now??  My mother used to tell me you can catch more flies with honey than with vinegar... The Lord tells me "He that is without sin among you, let him cast the first stone"  Good thing to remember be

Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding

2006-02-15 Thread Dean Moore
      - Original Message - From: To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org;TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 2/15/2006 9:31:49 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding Yes, and perhaps Dean's criticism is the very strength of the Church.   Association with the "group" does tend

RE: Fw: Re: [TruthTalk] Fem. God- Dave H. get bathing suit.

2006-02-15 Thread Dean Moore
      - Original Message - From: Judy Taylor To: truthtalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 2/15/2006 9:11:56 AM Subject: Fw: Re: [TruthTalk] Fem. God- Dave H. get bathing suit.   No, "anyone" is not included - only those who come with the right heart attitude. God hides things from the "wi

Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding

2006-02-15 Thread knpraise
Every single item on the list is an argued belief from either you or Judy Taylor.  You don't like it because when it is all put together, it is rather embarrassing.  The "cult" thingy is written all ofver this type of [listed] thinking.    You can counter with a list of weird beliefs of any of u

Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding

2006-02-15 Thread David Miller
John wrote: > You know how I feel about the scriptures. No, I really do not. Do you believe that the Scriptures are the infallible Word of God? Are the Scriptures a standard to which all believers must align themselves? John wrote: > But scripture is one thing and my understanding > of script

Re: [TruthTalk] Fem. God- Dave H. get bathing suit.

2006-02-15 Thread Dean Moore
      - Original Message - From: Lance Muir To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 2/15/2006 9:05:41 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fem. God- Dave H. get bathing suit. sp I guess that's the 'pot/kettle' thingy, Dean. I shouldn't 'what' either, Dean?   cd: And how is one to know which s

Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding

2006-02-15 Thread knpraise
Yes, and perhaps Dean's criticism is the very strength of the Church.   Association with the "group" does tend to keep us in line.  Because that has not worked out so well with several on this forum is not an argument against the anointed psychology of "church"  or "groupspeak" if you will.   

Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding

2006-02-15 Thread knpraise
And so it is that occultism (the esoteric) leads to cultish considerations.   jd   -- Original message -- From: "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> It is more like that an individual decides against the 'group' thus generating a cult, Dean. This is what concerns me re:one

Re: [TruthTalk] Fem. God- Dave H. get bathing suit.

2006-02-15 Thread Lance Muir
Can one 'truthfully' (Christine?) conclude such an post with 'blessings'? - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org ; TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: February 15, 2006 09:22 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fem. God- Dave H. get bathin

Re: [TruthTalk] Fem. God- Dave H. get bathing suit.

2006-02-15 Thread knpraise
Thanks for the drive-by, Christine.    -- Original message -- From: Christine Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> JD wrote:Your agenda has done nothing in a positive way for this forum.   Nothing.  I have been blessed many times by Dean's posts. From what I can remember, he has alw

Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding

2006-02-15 Thread Lance Muir
What an 'interesting' occasion for opting out, David. I'd be pleased to hear from you privately for the purpose of clarification. - Original Message - From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: February 15, 2006 09:10 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding Lanc

Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding

2006-02-15 Thread Lance Muir
That which he (they actually- Martin Scott of England & Marcus Splitt of Germany) prophetically uttered was recorded. It's fairly lengthy. - Original Message - From: "Dean Moore" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: February 15, 2006 09:03 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding

Re: Re: [TruthTalk] Fem. God- Dave H. get bathing suit.

2006-02-15 Thread Lance Muir
What I meant by what I said Judy, was that anyone with a bible has access to the script/words. I was making a distinction between the words 'say' and 'mean'. - Original Message - From: Judy Taylor To: truthtalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: February 15, 2006 09:11 Subj

Fw: Re: [TruthTalk] Fem. God- Dave H. get bathing suit.

2006-02-15 Thread Judy Taylor
  No, "anyone" is not included - only those who come with the right heart attitude. God hides things from the "wise and prudent" and reveals them to babes.  judyt From: "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I assume you to be using say/mean synonymously, Dean? Anyone can open the bible in order to

Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding

2006-02-15 Thread Lance Muir
I believe that DM just said (meant) in a post yesterday something rather different re:believers & sin. - Original Message - From: Dean Moore To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: February 15, 2006 08:58 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding

Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding

2006-02-15 Thread David Miller
Lance, based upon your previous comment concerning how I wake up to posts about me, I think perhaps it would be prudent for me to stop answering posts about me. So at least for now, I will be ignoring questions and comments about me. I have other more important matters that require my attentio

Re: [TruthTalk] Fem. God- Dave H. get bathing suit.

2006-02-15 Thread Lance Muir
sp I guess that's the 'pot/kettle' thingy, Dean. I shouldn't 'what' either, Dean? - Original Message - From: Dean Moore To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: February 15, 2006 08:56 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fem. God- Dave H. get bathing suit.    

Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding

2006-02-15 Thread Dean Moore
> [Original Message] > From: Lance Muir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Date: 2/15/2006 8:55:21 AM > Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding > > Addendum: > > I'd meant to ask for you to distinguish between prophet & prophetically > gifted. We (our store) is visited from time to time by

Re: [TruthTalk] Fem. God- Dave H. get bathing suit.

2006-02-15 Thread Lance Muir
I assume you to be using say/mean synonymously, Dean? Anyone can open the bible in order to see what it says, can they not? - Original Message - From: "Dean Moore" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: February 15, 2006 08:58 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fem. God- Dave H. get bathing suit.

RE: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding

2006-02-15 Thread Dean Moore
      - Original Message - From: Judy Taylor To: truthtalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 2/15/2006 8:00:08 AM Subject: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding I'm sure it does David. They always have a waiting list so are pretty strict about attendance and they will drop ppl who miss too m

Re: [TruthTalk] Fem. God- Dave H. get bathing suit.

2006-02-15 Thread Dean Moore
      - Original Message - From: Lance Muir To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 2/15/2006 7:20:36 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fem. God- Dave H. get bathing suit. He (Gary), Dean, is NOT being beligerent! He is disagreeing with your meaning. These are not the same thing. DM & you

Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding

2006-02-15 Thread Dean Moore
      - Original Message - From: Lance Muir To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 2/15/2006 8:06:30 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding Dean:Why don't you tell me (us) exactly what Rev 3:1-6 DOES MEAN. cd: It is telling the saved believers to remember receiving Ch

Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding

2006-02-15 Thread Lance Muir
Addendum: I'd meant to ask for you to distinguish between prophet & prophetically gifted. We (our store) is visited from time to time by 'prophetically gifted' persons. We had a visit from such a man in November who proceded to prophesy over the store and, several persons in it. - Original

Re: [TruthTalk] Fem. God- Dave H. get bathing suit.

2006-02-15 Thread Dean Moore
> [Original Message] > From: Lance Muir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Date: 2/15/2006 7:22:34 AM > Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fem. God- Dave H. get bathing suit. > > Does 'your church' teach them right Dean/David? What, pray tell, is present > within your discipling that one would find lacking

Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding

2006-02-15 Thread Dean Moore
cd: Thanks Judy -Do you know if they have one in this area- Western N.C.?     - Original Message - From: Judy Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 2/15/2006 7:56:05 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding Writen by one who quite

Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding

2006-02-15 Thread Lance Muir
David: I'm having some diffulty 'catching your drift' (meaning) in paragraphy two. Kindly say the same thing in other words. Further, please clarify for me (us) two things again/for the first time: 1. Distinguish between a. the office of prophet & do you occupy it? b. is there an office of k

Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding

2006-02-15 Thread Lance Muir
There have been an = number of such issued by you to the 'soon-to-be cult' (via Dean), Judy. - Original Message - From: Judy Taylor To: truthtalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: February 15, 2006 08:31 Subject: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding Lance obviously

[TruthTalk] The door to understanding

2006-02-15 Thread Judy Taylor
Lance obviously has a very active and prolific imagination David. I have disagreed with you about a point or two and have yet to receive even a hint of "veiled threats or warnings"  Apparently we live in two different dimensions (Lance and I, that is) judytFrom: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECT

Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding

2006-02-15 Thread Lance Muir
Dean:Why don't you tell me (us) exactly what Rev 3:1-6 DOES MEAN. - Original Message - From: Dean Moore To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: February 15, 2006 07:49 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding       - Original M

[TruthTalk] The door to understanding

2006-02-15 Thread Judy Taylor
I'm sure it does David. They always have a waiting list so are pretty strict about attendance and they will drop ppl who miss too many meetings. When I had to go to Australia I could look in their book and find meetings over there to attend. Same with every State in the Union and since everyo

Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding

2006-02-15 Thread Judy Taylor
Writen by one who quite obviously has never ever participated in BSF which has nothing to do with psychology. Nor do they do anyone's thinking for them. In fact those who have not done their own homework (in the scriptures) in a given week must remain silent. Note: For Dean - BSF is Bible Stu

Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding

2006-02-15 Thread David Miller
Nobody who has ever known me in person has called me pompous, but I have been accused of such from my writing. I think the apostle Paul had a similar problem (2 Cor. 10:10) so I'm not going to worry about it too much. For what it's worth, I do not lay claim to 'knowing' in a special way beyond

Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding

2006-02-15 Thread Dean Moore
      - Original Message - From: Lance Muir To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 2/15/2006 6:24:07 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding I believe that cd & DM may be confusing intimidation with authority. I see this more from DM with those less than veiled threats

Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding

2006-02-15 Thread Lance Muir
As I've said previously DM, it always interests me to see what it is that 'wakes you up'..why..my goodness..it is when it is about YOU. - Original Message - From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: February 15, 2006 07:44 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding

Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding

2006-02-15 Thread Lance Muir
Am I the only one to have noticed this, John? - Original Message - From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: February 15, 2006 07:45 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding Veiled threats and warnings? What are you talking about? David Miller. - Original

Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding

2006-02-15 Thread David Miller
Veiled threats and warnings? What are you talking about? David Miller. - Original Message - From: Lance Muir To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 6:23 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding I believe that cd & DM may be confusing intimidati

Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding

2006-02-15 Thread Dean Moore
      - Original Message - From: Lance Muir To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 2/15/2006 6:19:05 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding You seem more reserved than when preaching on the street, Dean. Surely you will say what you mean for our benefit. 'too much dan

Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding

2006-02-15 Thread David Miller
I have never attended BSF and did not even know what it was until Judy and John talked about it. I don't even know if it exists around here in my community. David Miller. - Original Message - From: Lance Muir To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 6:16 AM S

Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding

2006-02-15 Thread Lance Muir
The following is not a compliment, nor is it necessarily a criticism: As to "how can one argue with your type of reasoning.(fill in the blank)? DM, in responding to a series of questions I put to him, so framed his answers as to sever the possiblilty of ongoing conversation.

Re: [TruthTalk] Fem. God- Dave H. get bathing suit.

2006-02-15 Thread Lance Muir
Does 'your church' teach them right Dean/David? What, pray tell, is present within your discipling that one would find lacking in the other churches? ' - Original Message - From: "Dean Moore" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: February 15, 2006 07:07 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fem. God- Dave

Re: [TruthTalk] Fem. God- Dave H. get bathing suit.

2006-02-15 Thread Lance Muir
He (Gary), Dean, is NOT being beligerent! He is disagreeing with your meaning. These are not the same thing. DM & you seem not to get this. - Original Message - From: Dean Moore To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: February 15, 2006 07:08 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk

Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding

2006-02-15 Thread Lance Muir
Anyone here watch hockey? Legitmate body checks are permissible. TT's a little like hockey. The serious issue at hand re: 'delusion' is not necessarily rooted in wrong doctrine, IMO. However, few would disagree that misrepresenting 'who Jesus is' (Christology) matters. Pomposity when speakin

Re: [TruthTalk] Fem. God- Dave H. get bathing suit.

2006-02-15 Thread Dean Moore
cd: Don't be one of those people who would argue with a stop sign John.     - Original Message - From: To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org;TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 2/14/2006 5:53:08 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fem. God- Dave H. get bathing suit.       You pass out scripture as

Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding

2006-02-15 Thread Dean Moore
      - Original Message - From: Lance Muir To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 2/15/2006 6:16:41 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding Bible Study Fellowship. Judy attends. (I think David's family attends also.)  cd: Thank you Lance. - Original Message -

Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding

2006-02-15 Thread Dean Moore
cd: Be so kind as to tell me what BSF stand for?       - Original Message - From: Lance Muir To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 2/15/2006 6:15:47 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding It 'groupthink' is not so limited. BSF could be an illustration, Dean. - O

Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding

2006-02-15 Thread Dean Moore
cd: How can one argue with your type of reasoning John?     - Original Message - From: To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org;TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 2/14/2006 6:23:16 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding   Secondly,   I never said that the group defines God. 

Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding

2006-02-15 Thread Dean Moore
      - Original Message - From: To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org;TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 2/14/2006 6:02:49 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding Aahhh  ---  from you two, mostly from Judy. cd: If it is true it is only so under the delusion the worl

Re: [TruthTalk] Fem. God- Dave H. get bathing suit.

2006-02-15 Thread Dean Moore
      - Original Message - From: To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 2/15/2006 12:17:59 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fem. God- Dave H. get bathing suit. this has an NT ring to it that has nothing to do with JC and his followers   cd: Which Bible are you reading Gary? It has every

Re: [TruthTalk] Fem. God- Dave H. get bathing suit.

2006-02-15 Thread Dean Moore
cd: Hear,Hear! and Amen David. > [Original Message] > From: David Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Date: 2/14/2006 9:00:52 PM > Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fem. God- Dave H. get bathing suit. > > Dean did prove his point with this passage. The passage teaches that > Scripture is profitable f

[TruthTalk] Semanticizing - implementation oriented semantics

2006-02-15 Thread Lance Muir
I've sort of played with the above so as to suggest that the majority of TT's 'differences' fall within the realm of semantics. IMO, this is what Jesus was 'on about'  when engaging the religious leaders of His day. IMO, real communication necessitates a 'meaning' overlap. The larger the 'ov

Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding

2006-02-15 Thread Lance Muir
I believe that cd & DM may be confusing intimidation with authority. I see this more from DM with those less than veiled threats & warnings directed at those who dare to disagree with him. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org ; Truth

Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding

2006-02-15 Thread Lance Muir
You seem more reserved than when preaching on the street, Dean. Surely you will say what you mean for our benefit. 'too much dancing around'?? Are 'we' a cult IYO? - Original Message - From: Dean Moore To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: February 14, 2006 18:00

Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding

2006-02-15 Thread Lance Muir
Bible Study Fellowship. Judy attends. (I think David's family attends also.)  - Original Message - From: Dean Moore To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: February 14, 2006 17:53 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding cd: I am not sure where

Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding

2006-02-15 Thread Lance Muir
It 'groupthink' is not so limited. BSF could be an illustration, Dean. - Original Message - From: Dean Moore To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: February 14, 2006 17:49 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding       - Origi

Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding

2006-02-15 Thread Lance Muir
It is more like that an individual decides against the 'group' thus generating a cult, Dean. This is what concerns me re:one who lays claim to 'special revelation' as the 'closer' in an argument. One such, at least, is a TT contributer. - Original Message - From: Dean Moor

Re: [TruthTalk] Fem. God- Dave H. get bathing suit.

2006-02-15 Thread Lance Muir
As YOU see it. - Original Message - From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: February 14, 2006 19:02 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fem. God- Dave H. get bathing suit. Dean did prove his point with this passage. The passage teaches that Scripture is profitable for these things

Re: [TruthTalk] Fem. God- Dave H. get bathing suit.

2006-02-15 Thread Lance Muir
Dear Miller(s):   Both Satan and the religious leaders of Jesus' day 'quoted 'relevant' scripture(s)'. Take the sabbath issue as an example then, extend it from there so as to take note of my evaluation of some quoters of scripture some of the time. - Original Message - From: