Re: [TruthTalk] The 'spirit' of truthtalk?

2006-03-01 Thread Lance Muir
OK DAD! It's most appropriate of you to have intervened on your daughter's behalf, BUT, though I do not know her as do you, yet that which I've said is truer than what you said, David. IFF Christine is human (I'm not being (duh) smart) then SHE IS CAPABLE OF ANYTHING. IFF Dean is capable then sh

Re: [TruthTalk] Are all religions created equal?

2006-03-01 Thread Lance Muir
Yes, Christine, I do believe there is such a thing as a false religion. As to someone having a false belief, I'd ask: Do you, Christine, believe it possible that you/your dad/your mom etc. may hold to a false belief? - Original Message - From: Christine Miller To: Truth

Re: [TruthTalk] The 'spirit' of truthtalk?

2006-03-01 Thread Lance Muir
#x27;spirit' of truthtalk? I'm sorry Lance, I must have missed the part where I threatened to slit your throat in the name of God because you said something I didn't like. See the difference?Lance Muir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Re: [TruthTalk] The 'spirit' of truthtalk?

2006-03-01 Thread Lance Muir
nglory.org Sent: February 28, 2006 16:24 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The 'spirit' of truthtalk? I'm sorry Lance, I must have missed the part where I threatened to slit your throat in the name of God because you said something I didn't like. See the differenc

[TruthTalk] Throat-slitting?

2006-03-01 Thread Lance Muir
Christine:   All religions are equal opportunity 'throat-slitters'. I did not believe you were threatening such an action, Christine. Do I believe that circumstances could exist where you might? Yes.   I believe that those who foment violence are accountable for that which ensues. On a macro

Re: [TruthTalk] *********** To all list members-ModeratorComment***************

2006-02-28 Thread Lance Muir
list members-ModeratorComment***       - Original Message ----- From: Lance Muir To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 2/27/2006 6:22:15 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] *** To all list members-ModeratorComment***

[TruthTalk] The 'spirit' of truthtalk?

2006-02-28 Thread Lance Muir
Mock a Mormon - Amen! Irritate Islam - Praise the Lord! Confront Christianity by preaching at, not to, secularism, feminism, homosexuality, adultery and, every other evil never to be found within the believing community (?) Confront Christianity (real believers)-Begone you spirit of the evil

Re: [TruthTalk] An excellent Article on Islam Today

2006-02-28 Thread Lance Muir
The cartoons WERE a red herring from the start. However, you who would instigate violence should be prepared when violence ensues. (I speak again of the 'fomenters') - Original Message - From: Christine Miller To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: February 27, 2006

Re: [TruthTalk] Not Going to Criticize This?

2006-02-28 Thread Lance Muir
Christine:The following is an edited response to an edit of your post: Noone appreciates criticism and, I do mean noone! When that which you revere is criticised, it matters more. It (Islam), historically, is no more 'bloodthirsty' than Christianity. Check the history. We should not shrink b

[TruthTalk] Fw: The Fundraiser

2006-02-28 Thread Lance Muir
- Original Message - From: "David Peck" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "D Peck" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: February 27, 2006 23:13 Subject: The Fundraiser Hi All - A quick update regarding the CFCF fundraiser...we are confirmed as of this past Friday for a show on Thursday May the 18th of 200

[TruthTalk] Fw: PALM Report Vol 5 Issue 2

2006-02-28 Thread Lance Muir
Title: PALM Report Vol 4 Issue 9   - Original Message - From: Bruce Fligg PALM Ministries To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: February 28, 2006 00:57 Subject: PALM Report Vol 5 Issue 2 PALM Report Vol. 5 Issue 2 Lifting up Mississauga in Prayer John 17:21 May they be brought to complete

Re: [TruthTalk] Truth or the Opinions of Men

2006-02-27 Thread Lance Muir
.   On Mon, 27 Feb 2006 12:03:50 -0500 "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Judy: As you and I have pretty much never 'clicked' on anything, would it be better for you and, for TT if we just gave one another's posts a wide birth? I'd respect

Re: [TruthTalk] Truth or the Opinions of Men

2006-02-27 Thread Lance Muir
ant One" It is He who holds life and death in His hands. What is man whose breath is in his nostrils?   On Mon, 27 Feb 2006 09:02:44 -0500 "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: This, IMO, is NOT A DIALOGUE! This is a

Re: [TruthTalk] Blatant Idolatry

2006-02-27 Thread Lance Muir
the Lord with their whole heart (independently) - for if they had He would have been found by them and they would gladly put away such nonsense Lance; this is the blind leading the blind.  jt   On Mon, 27 Feb 2006 09:04:42 -0500 "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wri

Re: [TruthTalk] Blatant Idolatry

2006-02-27 Thread Lance Muir
He is, IMO, helping them. Lord help you, Judy! - Original Message - From: Judy Taylor To: truthtalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: February 27, 2006 08:47 Subject: [TruthTalk] Blatant Idolatry FWIW in the Religion section of The Daily Break, Virginia Pilot ye

Re: [TruthTalk] Truth or the Opinions of Men

2006-02-27 Thread Lance Muir
nnglory.org Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: February 27, 2006 08:57 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Truth or the Opinions of Men     On Mon, 27 Feb 2006 08:46:10 -0500 "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: 1. The 'way you see it' Judy, is

Re: [TruthTalk] Truth or the Opinions of Men

2006-02-27 Thread Lance Muir
s you and God part company on this issue which is one of many.  I have not ever noted you holding scripture in great regard; you seldom if ever quote any of it so I am left wondering about the basis of your discernment and how you would know what is "truly truthful&qu

Re: [TruthTalk] Truth or the Opinions of Men

2006-02-27 Thread Lance Muir
Opinions of Men For me Lance, exactly means exactly and truth means truth; no yours or mine about it. Personalizing everything as you do leads to gross deception.    On Mon, 27 Feb 2006 07:35:41 -0500 "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: May '

Re: [TruthTalk] Truth or the Opinions of Men

2006-02-27 Thread Lance Muir
- From: Judy Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: February 27, 2006 07:28 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Truth or the Opinions of Men Has Canada had a tsnuami?  Is this a new Lance or what?   On Mon, 27 Feb 2006 07:17:38 -

Re: [TruthTalk] Truth or the Opinions of Men

2006-02-27 Thread Lance Muir
is not the same as what you have been promoting Nor is it saying that ppl who have chosen darkness are walking in light. It has to be one or the other because there is no concord between Christ and Belial.   On Mon, 27 Feb 2006 06:10:27 -0500 "Lance Muir" <[EM

Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance

2006-02-27 Thread Lance Muir
.org Sent: February 27, 2006 06:23 Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance       - Original Message - From: Lance Muir To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 2/27/2006 6:01:29 AM Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing

Re: [TruthTalk] *********** To all list members-ModeratorComment***************

2006-02-27 Thread Lance Muir
- Original Message - From: Dean Moore To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: February 27, 2006 06:16 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] *** To all list members-ModeratorComment***       - Original Message - From:

Re: [TruthTalk] Truth or the Opinions of Men

2006-02-27 Thread Lance Muir
not be in error.  Noone alive today has the whole loaf.   On Sun, 26 Feb 2006 10:28:53 -0500 "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: You said 'No I don't disagree, Lance'. Therefore some of that which you believe say is error. Correct? This

Re: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance

2006-02-27 Thread Lance Muir
ore To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: February 26, 2006 18:44 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance       - Original Message ----- From: Lance Muir To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 2/26/2006 9:58:30 AM Subject: Re: [T

Re: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance

2006-02-27 Thread Lance Muir
- Original Message - From: Dean Moore To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: February 26, 2006 18:28 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance       - Original Message ----- From: Lance Muir To: TruthTalk@mail.innglor

Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance

2006-02-27 Thread Lance Muir
      - Original Message - From: Lance Muir To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 2/26/2006 9:39:32 AM Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance This, Dean, is an insult of the first magnitude. It insults them and the believers in the churches that

Re: [TruthTalk] *********** To all list members-ModeratorComment***************

2006-02-27 Thread Lance Muir
ginal Message - From: Lance Muir To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 2/26/2006 9:42:29 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] *** To all list members-ModeratorComment*** I disagree. DH has chosen The Mormon religion. To insult his religi

Re: [TruthTalk] Is it wrong to insult a religion?

2006-02-27 Thread Lance Muir
thoughts regarding the Cartoon wars? -ChristinePS- Thanks for the invite, Dean. I will try to become as active as my studies allow. (emphasis on the "as my studies allow" part.)Lance Muir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I disagree. DH has chosen The Mormon religi

Re: [TruthTalk] Truth or the Opinions of Men

2006-02-26 Thread Lance Muir
o fear of God in the land, yours or mine.   On Sun, 26 Feb 2006 10:02:56 -0500 "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: THERE IS OBJECTIVE TRUTH!! You, Judy, see some of it. Everybody on the planet sees some of it. Nobody, including you, has all of it. Do you di

[TruthTalk] Re:On Apprehending & talking truth

2006-02-26 Thread Lance Muir
ither have a HEART to perceive - eyes to see, ears to hear or they don't.  If they do the Lord is the one who has given this to them.  He is not mocked and he either opens or closes the understanding nothing by chance...   On Sun, 26 Feb 2006 09:58:16 -0500 "Lance Muir&quo

Re: [TruthTalk] Truth or the Opinions of Men

2006-02-26 Thread Lance Muir
opinion a majority or ecumenical one; this is hardly a recommendation - is it??   On Sun, 26 Feb 2006 09:42:18 -0500 "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: I disagree. DH has chosen The Mormon religion. To insult his religion is akin to the "cartoon incident

Re: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance

2006-02-26 Thread Lance Muir
hings. The world will always receive error before truth. This is of course derived from my understanding of the actions of these two men mentioned.   From: Lance Muir   Dean:Am I (are we) to understand that you and Judy have now 'dismissed&

Re: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance

2006-02-26 Thread Lance Muir
policies of George W.  They, like him are mere men.   On Sun, 26 Feb 2006 08:56:52 -0500 "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: As to the latter Judy, I have and, it does. Would you be so kind as to answer, giving your own opinions, concerning the a

Re: [TruthTalk] *********** To all list members-ModeratorComment***************

2006-02-26 Thread Lance Muir
Moore To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: February 26, 2006 09:06 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] *** To all list members-ModeratorComment***       - Original Message - From: Lance Muir To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org

Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance

2006-02-26 Thread Lance Muir
: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: February 26, 2006 09:06 Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance       - Original Message - From: Lance Muir To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 2/26/2006 7:43:12 AM Subject: Re: Fw

Re: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance

2006-02-26 Thread Lance Muir
teaching and leading us - so that we lack nothing.  Concerning "conclusions" Lance. You come to quite a few of them concerning this Nation and Government yourself.  Have you considered that this may also circumvent genuine dialogue also?   On Sun, 26 Feb 2006 08:33

[TruthTalk] Fw: Nova Segment

2006-02-26 Thread Lance Muir
  - Original Message - From: Randy Benson To: Lance Muir Sent: February 25, 2006 20:37 Subject: Nova Segment Hello Lance, I hope you will find this 12 minutes of video as profound as I did.  http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/sciencenow/3214/03.html And let us take a moment of silence

Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance

2006-02-26 Thread Lance Muir
eve Lance that you perceive these two men to be "conformed to the image of Christ" in their generation?  I had never heard of the "oversize bird cages" do you know about this Lance?   On Sun, 26 Feb 2006 07:43:03 -0500 "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance

2006-02-26 Thread Lance Muir
Title: RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Fw: Continuing repentance Dean:Am I (are we) to understand that you and Judy have now 'dismissed'  THE TWO MAJOR REFORMERS at that time in history? Do either of you perceive Luther/Calvin as UNbelievers? - Original Message - From: Dean Moore To

Re: [TruthTalk] *********** To all list members-Moderator Comment***************

2006-02-26 Thread Lance Muir
list members-Moderator Comment***       - Original Message ----- From: Lance Muir To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 2/26/2006 4:13:42 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] *** To all list members-Moderator Comment*** You spoke my question "G&

Re: [TruthTalk] *********** To all list members-Moderator Comment***************

2006-02-26 Thread Lance Muir
You spoke my question "G"? - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: February 25, 2006 18:07 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] *** To all list members-Moderator Comment*** ftr, what does this mean?

Re: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance

2006-02-25 Thread Lance Muir
Dean. with an assist from Ron Mcrae (?) concluded that Calvin was 'a lost man trying to understand Gods word' (Dean agreed with RM (?)) THERE IS SIMPLY NOWHERE TO GO WITH THIS DEAN!! What sort of insular world do such as you and Judy inhabit? Yikes x 10!! - Original Message - From: "

Re: [TruthTalk] Plurality vs Pluralism - Who is believing/teach THE TRUTH?

2006-02-25 Thread Lance Muir
luralism - Who is believing/teach THE TRUTH?       - Original Message - From: Lance Muir To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 2/24/2006 6:47:56 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Plurality vs Pluralism - Who is believing/teach THE TRUTH?

Re: [TruthTalk] Plurality vs Pluralism - Who is believing/teach THE TRUTH?

2006-02-25 Thread Lance Muir
TRUTH?       - Original Message - From: Lance Muir To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 2/24/2006 9:27:48 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Plurality vs Pluralism - Who is believing/teach THE TRUTH? You've worded this in such

Re: [TruthTalk] Who is believing/teach THE TRUTH?

2006-02-24 Thread Lance Muir
rs of difference between BT and DM have to do with "understanding" the gospel Lance?  To me the point of the conflict sounded something like "God hides things from the 'wise and prudent' and reveals them to babes.    On Fri, 24 Feb 2006 10:09:31 -0500

Re: [TruthTalk] Who is believing/teach THE TRUTH?

2006-02-24 Thread Lance Muir
Ah but must one understand THE TEACHINGS OF DAVID MILLER? - Original Message - From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: February 24, 2006 10:55 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Who is believing/teach THE TRUTH? Lance wrote: Main point from Dean: A child can 'understand'.

Re: [TruthTalk] Who is believing/teach THE TRUTH?

2006-02-24 Thread Lance Muir
t God would and would not do - Yet their ideas are diametrically opposed to His Ways.  What was the main thrust of your point to Dean that I missed?   On Fri, 24 Feb 2006 09:27:40 -0500 "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: You've worded this in such a way as to

Re: [TruthTalk] Plurality vs Pluralism - Who is believing/teach THE TRUTH?

2006-02-24 Thread Lance Muir
standing" Historical background is not "understanding" per se. One can know all ABOUT something and be completely void of "understanding" or spiritually ignorant just like the scribes and pharisees of Jesus' day..   On Fri, 24 Feb 2006 06:47:50 -0500 "

[TruthTalk] Reify

2006-02-24 Thread Lance Muir
One should discern the meaning of reify. Thereafter one should attempt to avoid doing such with respect to interpretation.    

Re: [TruthTalk] Plurality vs Pluralism - Who is believing/teach THE TRUTH?

2006-02-24 Thread Lance Muir
n Moore To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: February 24, 2006 06:29 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Plurality vs Pluralism - Who is believing/teach THE TRUTH?       - Original Message - From: Lance Muir To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org

Re: [TruthTalk] Truth & Gossip

2006-02-24 Thread Lance Muir
'twas an rhetorical question, Dean. - Original Message - From: "Dean Moore" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: February 24, 2006 06:16 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Truth & Gossip [Original Message] From: Lance Muir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Date: 2

Re: [TruthTalk] Plurality vs Pluralism - Who is believing/teach THE TRUTH?

2006-02-24 Thread Lance Muir
om: Dean Moore To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: February 24, 2006 05:33 Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Plurality vs Pluralism - Who is believing/teach THE TRUTH?       - Original Message ----- From: Lance Muir To: TruthTalk@mail.innglor

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: repentance & sin and everything

2006-02-22 Thread Lance Muir
is quite obvious. From: "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> No SHOUTING!! from my end, David. I see you as someone who, for whatever reason, needs to be right about things. I also see you as someone not much open to correction. Both of these are denied by you. Where does one g

Re: [TruthTalk] Let 'Haliburton' = Sin

2006-02-22 Thread Lance Muir
from the wrong root Lance.   On Wed, 22 Feb 2006 09:51:09 -0500 "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: You are simply incorrect on this, Judy. I've heard it out of their own mouths. The rest is with God.   From: Judy Tay

Fw: [TruthTalk] Fw: Fw: Continuing repentance

2006-02-22 Thread Lance Muir
- Original Message - From: "Debbie Sawczak" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'Lance Muir'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: February 22, 2006 09:36 Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Fw: Continuing repentance What David says about Luther's theses interests

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Fw: Continuing repentance

2006-02-22 Thread Lance Muir
22 Feb 2006 06:54:30 -0500 "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:   - Original Message - From: Debbie Sawczak To: 'Lance Muir' Sent: February 21, 2006 14:23 Subject: FW: Fw: Continuing repentance In other words, David does not s

Re: [TruthTalk] Let 'Haliburton' = Sin

2006-02-22 Thread Lance Muir
' = Sin   Limbaugh's father is or was a believer; he does not profess to be one and neither does Cheney other than possibly the nominal kind. Where do you get your information from Lance?  Nominal ppl who say they are Christians are "natural men" From: "L

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: repentance & sin and everything

2006-02-22 Thread Lance Muir
so that I can research it further on my own. David Miller - Original Message - From: "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2006 9:06 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: repentance & sin and everything No SHOUTING!! from my end, David. I s

Re: [TruthTalk] Plurality vs Pluralism - Who is believing/teach THE TRUTH?

2006-02-22 Thread Lance Muir
background, it is all too easy for me to focus upon specific ideas and concepts rather than the person of Jesus Christ. Your approach has helped balance me in this way, and I am thankful for you because of this. David Miller. - Original Message - From: Lance Muir To: TruthTalk@mail.

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: repentance & sin and everything

2006-02-22 Thread Lance Muir
it because I believe we are to move past repentance and onto perfection? Neither of you are explaining what is disagreeable. You both are just shouting that I am wrong. I'm asking how. Explain. Let's discuss this. David Miller ----- Original Message - From: Lance Mu

Re: [TruthTalk] Truth & Gossip

2006-02-22 Thread Lance Muir
Anyone see 'High Noon' recently? Now, just who is 'Frank Miller' and, who is 'Will Kane'? - Original Message - From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: February 22, 2006 08:38 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Truth & Gossip Thank you so much, Marlin, for sharing this. It gives

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Fw: Continuing repentance

2006-02-22 Thread Lance Muir
body, soul, and spirit, was to be one of repentance. If this is what he meant, then I would feel compelled to revise some of my words in my previous post. Perhaps my objections should be more directed toward the modernist's interpretation of Luther rather than toward Luther himself. David

Re: [TruthTalk] Truth & Gossip

2006-02-22 Thread Lance Muir
How much of that which you claim, without proof, that John 'believes' concerning you is drawn from hsi reading of and, conversations with, you? When you David, speak of any living person in a manner that might be deemed critical do you attempt to cc them? - Original Message - From:

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: repentance & sin and everything

2006-02-22 Thread Lance Muir
4.  The Anabaptists didn't have it all wrong and Luther was wrong to think them to be fanatics.   David Miller   - Original Message - From: Lance Muir To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 10:29 AM Subject:

Re: [TruthTalk] Let 'Haliburton' = Sin

2006-02-22 Thread Lance Muir
erning the promise. If we look at other people and systems, whether Cheney and Haliburton, or a Christian and the church, we may not be looking at the right standard concerning the reality of the promise of Jesus Christ in regards to righteousness and holiness. David Miller. - Orig

[TruthTalk] Plurality vs Pluralism - Who is believing/teach THE TRUTH?

2006-02-22 Thread Lance Muir
Look 'em up. I'm for the former and, agin' the latter. It seems to me that each believes their understanding of the truth  to be THE understanding of the truth. Each attempts to demonstrate the foregoing by employing means generally acceptable to all participants. When arriving at an impasse

[TruthTalk] Fw: Fw: Continuing repentance

2006-02-22 Thread Lance Muir
  - Original Message - From: Debbie Sawczak To: 'Lance Muir' Sent: February 21, 2006 14:23 Subject: FW: Fw: Continuing repentance In other words, David does not seem to have taken the point about penance and our modern psychological equivalent.   And probably bot

[TruthTalk] Fw: Fw: Continuing repentance

2006-02-22 Thread Lance Muir
  - Original Message - From: Debbie Sawczak To: 'Lance Muir' Sent: February 21, 2006 13:57 Subject: RE: Fw: Continuing repentance I understand what he is saying about the one-time turn, but I don't think this is what Victor/Luther meant. They mean something more l

Fw: [TruthTalk] Fw: repentance & sin and everything

2006-02-21 Thread Lance Muir
  - Original Message - From: Victor Shepherd To: Lance Muir Sent: February 21, 2006 09:44 Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: repentance & sin and everything First, who is David Miller?  His theological understanding is wholly wide of the mark.   Two, Debbie is a surer guide.   Vi

[TruthTalk] Let 'Haliburton' = Sin

2006-02-21 Thread Lance Muir
To Rush Limbaugh Haliburton and, by extension, Cheney can do no wrong.   To the critics of Haliburton and, by extension, Cheney can do no right.   IFO view Haliburton and, by extension, Cheney as somewhere in between.   It depends upon the criteria brought to bear on the analysis. I look at

[TruthTalk] Fw: repentance & sin and everything

2006-02-21 Thread Lance Muir
  - Original Message - From: Debbie Sawczak To: 'Lance Muir' Sent: February 20, 2006 22:43 Subject: repentance & sin and everything I came across this section on the first of Luther's 95 theses and thought of the sinless perfection discussion:   We commit the s

Re: [TruthTalk] Holiness

2006-02-20 Thread Lance Muir
20, 2006 12:55 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Holiness In your opinion Lance?   On Mon, 20 Feb 2006 12:50:53 -0500 "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Judy:I'm genuinely sorry but, as is so often the case when I engage you in conversation, I believe that we

Re: [TruthTalk] Holiness

2006-02-20 Thread Lance Muir
lical teachings regarding holiness.”   From: "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Judy:Let me offer my reading of your 'redness' in 2 parts:   1.How many? Me and, everyone with whom I speak as believer to believer.   2.Achieve? It all depends upon that which

Re: [TruthTalk] Greek Present Indicative

2006-02-20 Thread Lance Muir
readthis free report, click on the link below or visit our website atwww.barna.org.   On Mon, 20 Feb 2006 11:11:40 -0500 "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:> Obvious to you David, may not be obvious to everyone. I'm sure that > you've > not failed

Re: [TruthTalk] Greek Present Indicative

2006-02-20 Thread Lance Muir
Obvious to you David, may not be obvious to everyone. I'm sure that you've not failed to note my own 'cranial density' on more than a few occasions. I trust that it is obvious to you, et al, that I'm attempting to obtain scripture/statements from those I've taken to referencing as 'the sinless

[TruthTalk] Christological Questions - Class notes to follow

2006-02-20 Thread Lance Muir
DM will know of the sort of thing that is to follow. It is possible that others will not. Let this serve to illustrate 'plurality'.   Lance

Re: [TruthTalk] Greek Present Indicative

2006-02-20 Thread Lance Muir
. I want to be quite sure as to the meaning of the claimants. - Original Message - From: "Dean Moore" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: February 20, 2006 07:08 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Greek Present Indicative [Original Message] From: Lance Muir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: [TruthTalk] Greek Present Indicative

2006-02-20 Thread Lance Muir
I preach such almost every time I preach to sinners. I preach that I cannot point my finger of judgment because I am in need of mercy just like they are in need of mercy. I am not the Judge, but rather I only bear testimony of the Judge because I know him and he has sent me. David Mil

Re: [TruthTalk] Jesus is without sin

2006-02-19 Thread Lance Muir
without sin       - Original Message - From: Lance Muir To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 2/19/2006 10:27:52 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Jesus is without sin Born from above, born again, redeemed, converted, parti

Re: [TruthTalk] Fem. God- Dave H. get bathing suit.

2006-02-19 Thread Lance Muir
. get bathing suit.       - Original Message - From: Lance Muir To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 2/19/2006 10:11:33 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fem. God- Dave H. get bathing suit. You really don't know do you, Dean? T

Re: [TruthTalk] Jesus is without sin

2006-02-19 Thread Lance Muir
: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: February 19, 2006 10:19 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Jesus is without sin       - Original Message - From: Lance Muir To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 2/19/2006 9:53:22 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk

Re: [TruthTalk] Fem. God- Dave H. get bathing suit.

2006-02-19 Thread Lance Muir
From: Dean Moore To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: February 19, 2006 10:03 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fem. God- Dave H. get bathing suit.       - Original Message ----- From: Lance Muir To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org S

Re: [TruthTalk] Jesus is without sin

2006-02-19 Thread Lance Muir
ry 19, 2006 09:34 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Jesus is without sin       - Original Message - From: Lance Muir To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 2/19/2006 8:36:52 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Jesus is without sin Praise God

Re: [TruthTalk] Fem. God- Dave H. get bathing suit.

2006-02-19 Thread Lance Muir
H. get bathing suit.       - Original Message ----- From: Lance Muir To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 2/19/2006 8:39:59 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fem. God- Dave H. get bathing suit. I don't know you as God knows you,

Re: [TruthTalk] Fem. God- Dave H. get bathing suit.

2006-02-19 Thread Lance Muir
nal Message - From: Dean Moore To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: February 19, 2006 08:34 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fem. God- Dave H. get bathing suit.       - Original Message ----- From: Lance Muir To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.

Re: [TruthTalk] Jesus is without sin

2006-02-19 Thread Lance Muir
19, 2006 08:24 Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Jesus is without sin       - Original Message - From: Lance Muir To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 2/19/2006 8:03:38 AM Subject: [TruthTalk] Jesus is without sin Plus

Re: [TruthTalk] Fem. God- Dave H. get bathing suit.

2006-02-19 Thread Lance Muir
suit.       - Original Message - From: Lance Muir To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 2/18/2006 12:14:28 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fem. God- Dave H. get bathing suit. Gary appears to be 'reading the same bible' as I am, Dean. H

[TruthTalk] Jesus is without sin

2006-02-19 Thread Lance Muir
Plus..fill in your name if you do not/will not sin in thought/word/deed...I'd settle for today.

Re: [TruthTalk] Greek Present Indicative

2006-02-19 Thread Lance Muir
promise not to make up signs reading 'BEWARE! DAVID MILLER, A (redeemed) SINNER (past, present and, future) ONE WHO STANDS ON EQUAL SINFUL FOOTING WITH QUEERS RESIDES AT THIS HOME'   On Sun, 19 Feb 2006 05:50:02 -0500 "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> write

Re: [TruthTalk] Greek Present Indicative

2006-02-19 Thread Lance Muir
nt: February 19, 2006 07:20 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Greek Present Indicative       - Original Message - From: Lance Muir To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 2/19/2006 5:50:23 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Greek Present

Re: [TruthTalk] Greek Present Indicative

2006-02-19 Thread Lance Muir
ctive reflection, and the best Christian theology takes place in the interplay between reflection and practice." - Original Message - From: Lance Muir To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: February 19, 2006 05:50 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Greek Present Indicative

Re: [TruthTalk] Greek Present Indicative

2006-02-19 Thread Lance Muir
DAVID:We await your response to the specific post re:DM/SIN Was it not you who made the christology/sin  along with the ideaological/pragmatic distinction?   DAVID:It may be that not unlike the cast in 'Enron: The Smartest Guys in the Room'  that though your Greek grammar,  logic,  vocabula

Re: [TruthTalk] Fem. God- Dave H. get bathing suit.

2006-02-18 Thread Lance Muir
Gary appears to be 'reading the same bible' as I am, Dean. Hm? I guess the obvious question would then be.. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: February 18, 2006 12:01 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fem. God-

Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding

2006-02-18 Thread Lance Muir
NOITA (no offence intended to anyone - just made it up - ps I managed to just pass beginner's grk about a 100 yrs ago) but, I'm with DM on this one.   - Original Message - From: David Miller To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: February 18, 2006 08:34 Subject: Re:

Re: [TruthTalk] Greek Present Indicative

2006-02-18 Thread Lance Muir
NOITA (no offence intended to anyone - just made it up) but, I'm with DM on this one. - Original Message - From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: February 18, 2006 08:33 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Greek Present Indicative John wrote: Robertson will not disagree with my

[TruthTalk] Seinfeld episode on 'manzier'

2006-02-18 Thread Lance Muir
Given the recent history on TT re: the male/female thingy, I'd like to take a run at the 'unmentionable' joke. Do your research as to 'subject' then think of those denominationally affiliated men for whom such would be needful.   fn 1-Are there any present on TT who find nothing whatsoever,

Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding

2006-02-18 Thread Lance Muir
ot;much more!" Anyway, I am not sure how we go about discussing one without the other. If you think "sin" is an easily understood concept, read "The Many Faces of Evil" by Feinberg or any number of books discussing this subject. Extremely complicated. jd -

Re: [TruthTalk] The use of Scripture to convince the gainsayers

2006-02-17 Thread Lance Muir
tween when someone speaks from their studies and the interpretative process and when someone speaks in the name of the Lord. You are trying to apply what I said about hearing from God to study and the interpretative process. David Miller. - Original Message - From: "Lance Muir&

Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding

2006-02-17 Thread Lance Muir
Huh? YOU apparently see this as an understandable response. - Original Message - From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: February 17, 2006 10:21 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding Lance wrote: ONE WAY of thinking about this: Who He is takes prior

[TruthTalk] 'Ah' said the man but,' the Christadelphians allow the Scriptures to interpret themselves'

2006-02-17 Thread Lance Muir
Ah thought I but where have I heard of this impossibility previously? Oh, right, I heard it on TT.   'Ain't gonna happen' GB Sr.    

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