Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Astrology-Miller
Should I dig up the past posts?Dean Moore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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From: David Miller
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Sent: 3/14/2006 2:27:56 PM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Astrology-Miller
Dean, I did not call you
Is he lying?" is not the same as "he is a liar?" The first is a question and the latter is an accusation. David was only asking Judy Taylor for her opinion. jd
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- Original Message - From: David Miller To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 3/14/2006 2:27:56 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Astrology-MillerDean, I did not call you a liar. Judy is the one who said that if you were misrepresenting me, you were either lying or deceived. I
uot; is not the same as "he is a liar?" The first is a question and the latter is an accusation. David was only asking Judy Taylor for her opinion. jd
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Dean in Blue below
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From: David Miller
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Sent: 3/14/2006 2:27:56 PM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Astrology-Miller
Dean, I did not call you a liar. Judy is the one who said that if you were misrepresenting me, you were either lying
Should I dig up the past posts?Dean Moore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: - Original Message - From: David Miller To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 3/14/2006 2:27:56 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Astrology-Miller Dean, I did not call you a liar. Judy is the one who said t
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From: David Miller
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: 3/14/2006 2:27:56 PM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Astrology-Miller
Dean, I did not call you a liar. Judy is the one who said that if you were misrepresenting me, you were either lying or deceived. I
, and the last time this came up, I asked other
Mormons to comment on this as well. Not all the Mormons agree with Blaine
about astrology.
David Miller.
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From:
Dean
Moore
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 7:26
PM
cd:Judy I am not lying.- See below in blue and red.
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From: David Miller
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Sent: 3/13/2006 12:00:46 PM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Astrology-Miller
Judy, I never inquired Blaine's expertise in astrology regarding my birth sign
. Izzy
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Miller
Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 11:00
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Astrology-Miller
Judy, I never inquired Blaine's
expertise in astrology regarding my birth sign
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Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2006 9:37
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Astrology-Miller
Understanding is not the issue here Lance
...
Did David Miller inquire of Blaine's expertise in
astrology regarding his birth sign?
I do not think that Pagan roots of Christianity, have been "established". Except in the minds of LDS who read Talmage, Petersen or OLD Priesthood manuals.Dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Astrology. What do you think of such?DAVEH: I do not subscribe to it, nor do I find it of much interest. H
Does the dictionary define all things Mormon? Official Church Manuals say the Prophet is "God's SOLE mouthpiece on earth for the Church" Teachings of the Living Prophets p 13 CJCLds He is even able to "go BEYOND or ADD to the scriptures" p 18 Also aren't you transgressing one of your rules
Illustration of those who have to remove portions of sentences to twist & misquote Now have to remove letters! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:interesting On Sat, 11 Mar 2006 06:19:50 -0800 (PST) Kevin Deegan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:Just what is a
nuance..? ||
Yahoo!
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From: Dave
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Sent: 3/12/2006 2:27:54 AM
Subject: [TruthTalk] Astrology
Astrology.
What do you think of such?DAVEH: I do not subscribe to it, nor do I find it of much interest. However KevinI think Blaine tried to show that Christianity has some
have been harmed, and what change do you propose?This is going to get real personal-real soonDAVEH: It seems to me that you opened that door, Judge Dean. Do you not think calling me a pagan made it real personal???
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Astrology-Miller
Maybe that is why we are not t
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From: Dave
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Sent: 3/12/2006 12:33:01 AM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Astrology-Miller
the sad part is that one claiming to be a Christian (Blain/ DavH)has lead the believer to this error.DAVEH: Which believer on TT do you
cd: Good idea John-Stay with the jokes rather then quoting the Bible as you will get in less trouble in the judgement that way.
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Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Astrology
Astrology.
What do you think of such?
DAVEH: I do not subscribe to it, nor do I find it of much interest.
However KevinI think Blaine tried to show that Christianity has
some roots in it. So if one wants to criticize Blaine for his beliefs
about astrology, is that same person willing
rsonal???
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Re: [TruthTalk] Astrology-Miller
Maybe that is why we are not to go
to the World for answers.
The dictionary is not the discerner
of who/what is a Christian.
The World has no answers.
d that door, Judge Dean. Do you not think calling me a pagan made it real personal???
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Astrology-Miller
Maybe that is why we are not to go to the World for answers.
The dictionary is not the discerner of who/what is a Christian.
The World has no answers.
All the soothsayers
made it real personal???
Subject:
Re: [TruthTalk] Astrology-Miller
Maybe that is why we are not to go to the World
for answers.
The dictionary is not the discerner of who/what
is a Christian.
The World has no answers.
All the soothsayers at Jackson S
The dictionary is not the discerner of who/what is a Christian.
DAVEH: Who does authoritatively make that distinction in your eyes,
Kevin?
Kevin Deegan wrote:
Maybe that is why we are not to go to the World for answers.
The dictionary is not the discerner of who/what is a
Christian.
T
DavidM has some
grace, it appears, sorta like DaveH's; thoroughgoing legalism sounds like
it's gonna whip some adult's ass like a child's
& legalism questioning 'understanding' also sanctions
it
On Sat, 11 Mar 2006 10:34:50 -0500 Judy
Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
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LOL
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> interesting
>
> On Sat, 11 Mar 2006 09:37:22 -0500 Judy Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> writes:
Understanding is not the issue here Lance
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interesting
On Sat, 11 Mar 2006 09:37:22 -050
interesting
On Sat, 11 Mar 2006 06:19:50 -0800 (PST)
Kevin Deegan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Just what is a
nuance..?
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actuate the reading were
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From: Kevin Deegan
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: 3/10/2006 7:33:15 AM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Kinder Gentler God would not call name
interesting
On Sat, 11 Mar 2006 09:37:22 -0500 Judy Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Understanding is not the issue here Lance
How can you so glibly mistake love for
hostility
Since you have never repented for calling me a
liar for stating that Jesus is the TRUTH
You should be extolling his grace(Dean's that
is)
On Sat, 11 Mar 2006 08:28:14 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
myth (also, the
lack of certaint
myth (also, the
lack of certainty reveals the shallowness of the threat written with
hostility)
On Sat, 11 Mar 2006 10:18:12 -0500 "Dean Moore" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
writes:
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You seem to twist truth ..For the
sake of your soul I suggest you heed these
words.
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From: Lance Muir
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: 3/11/2006 6:54:38 AM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Astrology-Miller
Your criticism of DM on astrology is based upon a faulty 'reading'. This faulty reading was exhibited by Kevin re:David'
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From: Kevin Deegan
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: 3/11/2006 9:11:05 AM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Astrology-Miller
Maybe that is why we are not to go to the World for answers.
The dictionary is not the discerner of who/what is a Christian.
The World
Understanding is not the issue here Lance
...
Did David Miller inquire of Blaine's expertise in
astrology regarding his birth sign?
He either did or he did not regardless of personal
views
If he did then he IS NOT being misrepresented
here.
IF he DID NOT then someone is lying about it or
g
om: Dean Moore To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: March 11, 2006 06:35 Subject: [TruthTalk] Astrology-Miller - Original Message - From: Kevin Deegan To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 3/10/2006 7:33:15 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Kinder Gentler God would not call
Maybe that is why we are not to go to the World for answers. The dictionary is not the discerner of who/what is a Christian. The World has no answers. All the soothsayers at Jackson Square were made an open show open shame for all to see. They know not at what they stumble! Just more FALSE
can't read TT
with understanding then what are we to make of their reading of the
Scriptures?
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From:
Dean
Moore
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: March 11, 2006 06:35
Subject: [TruthTalk]
Astrology-Miller
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From: Kevin Deegan
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: 3/10/2006 7:33:15 AM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Kinder Gentler God would not call names - pagan ?
Blaine has posted a number of times refering to Astrology.
What do you think of such?
cd: It goes
Sent: Sunday, March 28, 2004 1:48 AM
Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] astrology
Blaine, I believe that astrology is of the occult. Do you?
I do think you have a valid point, however, that God made the heavenlies, and He can use them to give signs, such as the Zodiac formations. Pastor James Kennedy
first built. I don’t go where
I don’t think the Holy Spirit is. I would never visit a Hindu or Buddhist
temple, either.
Izzy
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Sent: Sunday, March 28,
2004 1:48 AM
Subject: RE: [TruthTalk]
astrology
near Ogden and Hill AFB. But Salt Lake is just 30
minutes away.
Blaine
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Sent: Sunday, March 28, 2004 1:48
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Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] astrology
Blaine, I
believe that astrology is of the occ
Blaine Borrowman
Sent: Sunday, March 28, 2004 12:11
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] astrology
Blaine: The stars
fortell, but do not compel. God Knows us, and what choices we will make,
but we need to make them nevertheless, and thus prove all things, in order that
God
seven stars signify the seven churches of Asia (Revelation,
chapter 1), or, in other words, the Church! The North Star, which
never moves, signifies Jesus Christ.
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From:
Judy
Taylor
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Sent: Friday, March 26, 2004 7:50
PM
From: "Blaine Borrowman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Hmmm, can you give me your exact time and place of
birth?
I can't predict much without being able to place
your sun, moon and planets
in houses with reference to your rising
sign. You were born with the Sun in
Saggitarius, Moon in Taurus, Mercu
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Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2004 3:12 PM
Subject: [TruthTalk] astrology
>
> On Thu, 25 Mar 2004 14:49:13 -0500 "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> writes:
>
> > Vince wrote:
> >> Watching the stars helps us
> >> determ
Blaine: You'd make a grand astrologer, Wm, you ought to go to Hogworts for
an advanced degree. LOL
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Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2004 11:15 AM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] astrolo
t;
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2004 8:20 AM
Subject: [TruthTalk] astrology
> > Astrology is testable? Here's a
test: I was born on Dec 20, 1950.> Predict for me when I will find a job.
For bonus points, tell me in what> career field that job will be
On Thu, 25 Mar 2004 21:55:29 -0500 "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
writes:
> Hmmm. You are an
> interesting person.
LOL!
Many people have expressed that thought, but most don't use such
polite words.;)
vincent j. fulton
--
"Let your speech be always with grace, seas
Vince wrote:
> Seeing a pattern by hindsight is interesting,
> but it suggests nothing more than that God has
> a TIMEtable.
LOL. That's the whole point. If in hindsight we do see some patterns,
then maybe with a little study we might become a little better at
predicting future events. I'm no
> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2004 8:20 AM
> Subject: [TruthTalk] astrology
>
>
> >
> > Astrology is testable? Here's a test: I was born on Dec 20,
> 1950.
> > Predict for me
On Thu, 25 Mar 2004 14:49:13 -0500 "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
writes:
> Vince wrote:
>> Watching the stars helps us
>> determine time, the seasons, etc.
>
> But what about the "signs." The Bible
> mentions not just times and seasons,
> but signs. What do you think that means?
W
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To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2004 8:20 AM
Subject: [TruthTalk] astrology
>
> Astrology is testable? Here's a test: I was born on Dec 20, 1950.
> Predict for me when I will find a job. For bonus points, tell me in what
> career field that job wil
Astrology: An ancient fatalistic system of divination using the position of the planets, moon and sun in the twelve Zodiac positions at the moment of ones birth to gain occult or hidden knowledge of the future.
Occult divination and reading omens is condemned in Deut. 18:9 - 12 and Daniel 5:7 Th
Astrology is testable? Here's a test: I was born on Dec 20, 1950.
Predict for me when I will find a job. For bonus points, tell me in what
career field that job will be.
vincent j. fulton
On Wed, 24 Mar 2004 20:32:11 -0700 "Blaine Borrowman"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Blaine: This has no
From: "Blaine Borrowman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Blaine: This has nothing to do with my Mormon
upbringing, but I beg to differ with your statement,
vf:" Astrology is not science. They
make observations, but they have notheories to explain the universe or any
part of it. Their ideas cannot be
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