Re: [TruthTalk] Exerpts

2005-06-06 Thread Judy Taylor
This isnot the original - this is me explaining the original. You'll have to do better than this... jt On Sun, 05 Jun 2005 22:04:55 -0400 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Here is your original post, Mrs Taylor. I am the one who spoke of rooting and grounding -- not you. but you can

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2005-06-06 Thread Lance Muir
] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: June 05, 2005 21:34 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Exerpts note the word 'correctly', below--as noted, the notion is intrinsic to (her)dualism e.g., didn'tLance's spiritual discernment recognize correctly JCs gifts through the Spirit toPastor

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2005-06-06 Thread Judy Taylor
ssage-From: Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgCc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Sun, 5 Jun 2005 17:12:33 -0400Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Exerpts Let me repeat; in my original post on this subject Mr. Smithson I said that neither

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2005-06-06 Thread knpraise
al Message-From: Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgCc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Mon, 6 Jun 2005 03:49:21 -0400Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Exerpts This isnot the original - this is me explaining the original. You'll have to do better than this... jt On Sun, 05 Jun

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2005-06-06 Thread knpraise
TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Mon, 6 Jun 2005 04:53:08 -0400Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Exerpts Wait a minute - I wrote both paragraphs in green below and now it appears to me that JD is attributing the first one to himself - saying he is the "one"; do we have a split or two JD's

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2005-06-06 Thread Judy Taylor
JD the progression was as follows (see below)- as usual (for some of you) every road leads to the failure and false gifting of DM so the discussion progressed from worship to spiritual discernment and who is qualified to discern. Here you have been usingpart of the thread 'out of context' to

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2005-06-06 Thread Judy Taylor
@mail.innglory.orgSent: Sun, 5 Jun 2005 17:12:33 -0400Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Exerpts Let me repeat; in my original post on this subject Mr. Smithson I said that neither Lance nor Gary were sufficiently rooted and grounded in God's Word to correct

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2005-06-06 Thread Kevin Deegan
ood week, are we? JD -Original Message-From: Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgCc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Sun, 5 Jun 2005 17:12:33 -0400Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Exerpts Let me repeat; in my original post on this subject Mr. Smithson I said that neither

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2005-06-06 Thread Kevin Deegan
dy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgCc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Sun, 5 Jun 2005 17:12:33 -0400Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Exerpts Let me repeat; in my original post on this subject Mr. Smithson I said that neither Lance nor Gary were sufficiently rooted and grounded in G

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2005-06-06 Thread ShieldsFamily
one else has these squabbles except for you? Does this tell you anything??? Izzy From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Monday, June 06, 2005 6:56 AMTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: Re: [TruthTalk] Exerpts Wrong again. The words, below,

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2005-06-06 Thread Charles Perry Locke
Actually, Izzy, it was not that long ago that Dave and I were having just such a squabble. Perry From: ShieldsFamily [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Exerpts Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2005 11:30:56 -0500 JD why

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2005-06-06 Thread ShieldsFamily
Oh, yeah. One for you. Dozens for JD. Izzy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Charles Perry Locke Sent: Monday, June 06, 2005 10:40 AM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Exerpts Actually, Izzy, it was not that long ago

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2005-06-06 Thread knpraise
thank you. Jd-Original Message-From: Charles Perry Locke [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Mon, 06 Jun 2005 09:40:26 -0700Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Exerpts Actually, Izzy, it was not that long ago that Dave and I were having just such a squabble.PerryFrom

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2005-06-06 Thread Kevin Deegan
6:56 AMTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: Re: [TruthTalk] Exerpts Wrong again. The words, below, are your original post, Judy. The post preeceding this one has me talking about something else and you dragging Lance and Gary's names into the subject. I question you on this, wondering why

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2005-06-06 Thread Kevin Deegan
JD has had such with DM, Izzy, JT and KD Can anyone in the history of TT match that record?ShieldsFamily [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oh, yeah. One for you. Dozens for JD. Izzy -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED][mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Charles Perry LockeSent: Monday, June

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2005-06-05 Thread Kevin Deegan
TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Sat, 4 Jun 2005 14:01:25 -0600Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Exerpts Isaiah'spointabout false worshipsolidifies in ch2, relates to 'trusting in man';in ch5, Isaiahcondemns the arrogant attitude/s ofGod's people; e.g., '..you live alone in the land' (5:8),

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2005-06-05 Thread Kevin Deegan
I don't think JD has a problemunderstanding I think he misrepresents others views ( as amply shown in the past) in order to shoot down the STRAW MAN he created.Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That is your myth (read lie) JD because Inever made a statement anything like what you have written

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2005-06-05 Thread knpraise
In your first post on this subject, you did not say that at all, Mrs. Taylor. Not even close. But your side does not care what it has written -- only what it says it has written. Let's move on. Jd That is your myth (read lie) JD because Inever made a statement anything like what you have

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2005-06-05 Thread Judy Taylor
Let me repeat; in my original post on this subject Mr. Smithson I said that neither Lance nor Gary were sufficiently rooted and grounded in God's Word to correctly discern a genuine spiritual gift in operation. Look in the archives. This is what I said. jt On Sun, 05 Jun 2005 16:34:04 -0400

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2005-06-05 Thread ttxpress
note the word 'correctly', below--as noted, the notion is intrinsic to (her)dualism e.g., didn'tLance's spiritual discernment recognize correctly JCs gifts through the Spirit toPastor Smithson? On Sun, 5 Jun 2005 17:12:33 -0400 Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ..to correctly

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2005-06-05 Thread knpraise
tion. Look in the archives. This is what I said. jt Not having a good week, are we? JD -Original Message-From: Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgCc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Sun, 5 Jun 2005 17:12:33 -0400Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Exerpts Let me repeat; in m

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2005-06-05 Thread Kevin Deegan
MYTH[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You givehim an endless source of matrerial. Jd-Original Message-From: Kevin Deegan [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Sat, 4 Jun 2005 18:33:14 -0700 (PDT)Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Exerpts Are you stuck in a RUT man? Everything you

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2005-06-05 Thread Kevin Deegan
Sort of like when JD argued that "ALL" which became "most" and finally "some" when confronted with his own statement.[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In your first post on this subject, you did not say that at all, Mrs. Taylor. Not even close. But your side does not care what it has written -- only

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2005-06-05 Thread Kevin Deegan
How does your spiritual gift discern between MYTH and Dualism?[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: note the word 'correctly', below--as noted, the notion is intrinsic to (her)dualism e.g., didn'tLance's spiritual discernment recognize correctly JCs gifts through the Spirit toPastor Smithson? On Sun, 5

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2005-06-04 Thread knpraise
36:43 -0400Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Exerpts Don't believe I've ever used the word "liberal" on TT JD. I am into truth vs error rather than liberal vs whatever... and what's this with the angst? Where did that come from? jt On Fri, 03 Jun 2005 18:58:42 -0400 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

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2005-06-04 Thread ShieldsFamily
PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 9:15 PM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Exerpts what church? On Fri, 3 Jun 2005 20:24:05 -0500 ShieldsFamily [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ..a church service..in which the Reverend

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2005-06-04 Thread Lance Muir
@mail.innglory.org Sent: June 04, 2005 10:42 Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Exerpts Methodist, around the corner from our home. One of the great liberal city churches in these huge, beautiful turn of the century buildings. They are all peppered with sodomites. No wonder we drive 25 miles

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2005-06-04 Thread ShieldsFamily
: [TruthTalk] Exerpts Wasn't it Jesus who firstset the example of 'driving' around the sodomites, whores, liberals, crazies and the like in order to fellowship with the 'saints'.? Good for you, Izzie! Amen! Right on sister! - Original Message - From: ShieldsFamily

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2005-06-04 Thread Lance Muir
?)! - Original Message - From: ShieldsFamily To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: June 04, 2005 11:11 Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Exerpts I suppose you would sit there and celebrate the community of diversity under the leadership of that pervert woman

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2005-06-04 Thread ShieldsFamily
ANSWER THE QUESTION LANCE. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance Muir Sent: Saturday, June 04, 2005 9:16 AM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Exerpts I, for one, do not blame such as yourself, who choose the 'broad

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2005-06-04 Thread David Miller
Lance wrote: I, for one, do not blame such as yourself, who choose the 'broad road' that leadeth to fellowshipping with 'non-sinners'. What was it again that Jesus was criticized for? With whom was he hanging out? Let's make one thing clear. Jesus did not have fellowship with sinners. I

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2005-06-04 Thread Judy Taylor
I knew it! You definitely do have your own exclusive Bible Lance. Where do you read that Jesus went to fellowship with "sodomites, whores, liberals, crazies, and the like" In my Bibles they came to Him ... In fact read John 2:23-25 and you will see that during the Passover there were many

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2005-06-04 Thread ShieldsFamily
@mail.innglory.org Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Exerpts I knew it! You definitely do have your own exclusive Bible Lance. Where do you read that Jesus went to fellowship with sodomites, whores, liberals, crazies, and the like In my Bibles they came to Him

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2005-06-04 Thread ttxpress
Isaiah'spointabout false worshipsolidifies in ch2, relates to 'trusting in man';in ch5, Isaiahcondemns the arrogant attitude/s ofGod's people; e.g., '..you live alone in the land' (5:8), acriticism of their economicswhichreflectstheirreal poverty (lording themselves over the

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2005-06-04 Thread knpraise
myth (read:lie) : Gary O has no relationship with the Word of God JD-Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Sat, 4 Jun 2005 14:01:25 -0600Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Exerpts Isaiah'spointabout false worshipsolidifies in ch2, relates to 'trusting

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2005-06-04 Thread knpraise
has proven the accepted gossip to be a untrue. JD-Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Sat, 4 Jun 2005 14:01:25 -0600Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Exerpts Isaiah'spointabout false worshipsolidifies in ch2, relates to 'trusting in man';in ch5, Isai

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2005-06-04 Thread ttxpress
lto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 9:15 PMTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: Re: [TruthTalk] Exerpts what church? On Fri, 3 Jun 2005 20:24:05 -0500 "ShieldsFamily" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ..a church

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2005-06-04 Thread Judy Taylor
That is your myth (read lie) JD because Inever made a statement anything like what you have written below. Did I sayGary O never reads the Bible? What I said is thathe is not sufficiently rooted and grounded in God's Word to discern what is and what is not a genuine spiritual gift in

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2005-06-04 Thread Kevin Deegan
Are you stuck in a RUT man? Everything you post is either "MYTH" or "DUALISM"[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: dualistically, then, false worship depends on an incorrect heart attitude On Fri, 3 Jun 2005 15:58:39 -0400 Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: true worship depends upon a correct heart

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2005-06-04 Thread ShieldsFamily
You are so right. An adversarial relationship, but a relationship for sure. Izzy From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Saturday, June 04, 2005 4:02 PMTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: Re: [TruthTalk] Exerpts myth (read:lie) : Gary

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2005-06-04 Thread Kevin Deegan
nion” as I just couldn’t stomach watching that sacrilege. It was enough to make even me throw up. Izzy From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Judy TaylorSent: Friday, June 03, 2005 1:59 PMTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgCc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: [TruthTal

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2005-06-04 Thread ShieldsFamily
I have no idea what that was supposed to mean. So Methodists don't have church services? From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Saturday, June 04, 2005 2:41 PMTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: Re: [TruthTalk] Exerpts (the factthat

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2005-06-04 Thread Kevin Deegan
He is dancing as fast as he can.ShieldsFamily [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ANSWER THE QUESTION LANCE. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance MuirSent: Saturday, June 04, 2005 9:16 AMTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: Re: [TruthTalk] Exerpts I

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2005-06-03 Thread Judy Taylor
On Fri, 3 Jun 2005 07:48:10 -0400 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Worship shapes our spirituality "...our spirituality is usually shaped more by the experience of communal worship than it is by preaching and teachingthe way we think about God and relate to God is

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2005-06-03 Thread Lance Muir
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: June 03, 2005 15:58 Subject: [TruthTalk] Exerpts On Fri, 3 Jun 2005 07:48:10 -0400 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Worship shapes our spirituality "...our spiritua

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2005-06-03 Thread knpraise
Absolutely. -Original Message-From: Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Fri, 3 Jun 2005 16:12:14 -0400Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Exerpts Are we ALL as predictable as you, Judy? Given this I'm not sure why you don't just have two 'repeater' words: 'Amen

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2005-06-03 Thread Judy Taylor
If one goes around imbibing spiritual atmospheres where is spiritual discernment? The animal kingdom are the ones who are led by instinct. Human beings need to learn and God makes surewe are taught to know the voice of the Shepherd. jt On Fri, 3 Jun 2005 16:12:14 -0400 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL

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2005-06-03 Thread knpraise
PROTECTED]To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgCc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Fri, 3 Jun 2005 17:16:27 -0400Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Exerpts If one goes around imbibing spiritual atmospheres where is spiritual discernment? The animal kingdom are the ones who are led by instinct. Human beings need to lea

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2005-06-03 Thread ttxpress
dualistically, then, false worship depends on an incorrect heart attitude On Fri, 3 Jun 2005 15:58:39 -0400 Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: true worship depends upon a correct heart attitude

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2005-06-03 Thread ShieldsFamily
PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Judy Taylor Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 1:59 PM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: [TruthTalk] Exerpts On Fri, 3 Jun 2005 07:48:10 -0400 Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Worship shapes

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2005-06-03 Thread Judy Taylor
Don't believe I've ever used the word "liberal" on TT JD. I am into truth vs error rather than liberal vs whatever... and what's this with the angst? Where did that come from? jt On Fri, 03 Jun 2005 18:58:42 -0400 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Have you read Eph 5:18-20. Think "imbibe."

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2005-06-03 Thread Judy Taylor
Sure it does, these are the ones who descended into Sheoll rejoicing ... read about it in Isaiah 5:13,14 On Fri, 3 Jun 2005 18:57:29 -0600 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: dualistically, then, false worship depends on an incorrect heart attitude On Fri, 3 Jun 2005 15:58:39 -0400 Judy

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2005-06-03 Thread ttxpress
what church? On Fri, 3 Jun 2005 20:24:05 -0500 "ShieldsFamily" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ..a church service..in which the Reverend was a lesbian