What about Izzy, Lance?
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Some others are legalists in
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> Bill wrote:
> > I wonder how many legalists over the
> > centuries have known they were such?
>
> Bill, aren't we all on TruthTalk legalists in one way or anoth
Bill wrote:
> I wonder how many legalists over the
> centuries have known they were such?
Bill, aren't we all on TruthTalk legalists in one way or another? It seems
to me that we are all just legalists toward different objects. Some are
legalists in regards to following Scripture. Others are
y, April 01, 2005 6:51
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I wonder
how many intellectuals take comfort in labeling people who cherish Gods
Word legalists? Maybe the Popes were right to burn them at the stake
for so many centuries? Darnwe sti
A hearty Amen!
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The passing of the Pope -
and it is just that, I suppose, offers me the
The passing of the Pope - and it is just that, I suppose, offers me the occasion to speak of my deeply felt respect for this leader. In simple terms, he has been a stud !!
I include him in my prayers -- knowing that God has included him in the reconciliation of all unto Himself. God b
Bill Taylor
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I wonder how many legalists over the centuries have know
they were such? Not many I suppose.
Bill
What are you saying? That we can't know
truth? That we are all in the same shape as Pontius Pilate
whose
famous words are "What is truth?" That Jesus
didn't really mean it when he told his disciples "You shall
KNOW the truth and the truth will make you
free?"
So now everyone who believe
JD, Until you choose to stop projecting the
demons from your past upon others, you will have to risk being one sick
puppy. How long will you choose to carry around a sack full of dead
bones? Let it go. Izzy
Just thinking out loud.
John
I wonder how many legalists over the centuries have
know they were such? Not many I suppose.
Bill
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Man, that is the truth! :>)
bill
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From:
Lance
Muir
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When one equates one's statement(s) of t
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I will stubbornly believe the best of you! :-)
Intellectually, I understand and give credence to this opinion, of late
expressed by Lance and Bill. Emotion
Sorry you are so tempted. Izzy
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Exactly the passage I was
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An acquaintance teaches at a
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An acquaintance teaches at a local seminary on, among other subjects, world religions and cults.After briefing his students on the various religions and religious groups, he either takes
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Sin - Holy People?
No, Im afraid I
dont understand a Christian school that teaches about Bahai, but not
critically; or a
That was loud enough for me to have heard you,
John. Amen, brother.
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In a message dated 3/31
In a message dated 3/31/2005 6:52:33 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I will stubbornly believe the best of you! :-)
Intellectually, I understand and give credence to this opinion, of late expressed by Lance and Bill. Emotionally, I am not there. A confession of sorts
Exactly the
passage I was thinking of. The stubbornness is required in order
to stand against the temptation to do otherwise.
'Night.
Debbie
I will
stubbornly believe the best of you! :-) Stubbornness
not required. You have Gods permission to assume the best of others in
Izzy in blue:
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Oh for pity's sake, Izzy, my dear
elder s
:-)
Debbie
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No, Im afraid I
dont understand a Christian school that teaches ab
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The presentation itself was just
about Bahai. It had no other purpose. Sort of along the lines of, "OK,
after all this,
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I am wondering if
your sons Christian school encouraged the children to examine why t
me all my trumpery lest I
die.
Debbie
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> Lance wrote:>
? Izzy
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On the heels of the whole discussion about
misrepresenting one
Lance wrote:
> Bill Taylor has done that which I've not.
> He has set the gospel out with theological
> clarity and Biblical support. Yet, have you
> misapprehended it.
Apparently you do not comprehend that neither Bill, me, or anyone else on
TruthTalk has the full apprehension of Christ and his
rity and Biblical
support. Yet, have you misapprehended it.
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> Lance wrote:
> >> IFF no amount of Script
Lance wrote:
>> IFF no amount of Scriptural support for another
>> understanding will EVER see any one of you alter
>> your position then, how are we to engage one another?
John wrote:
> I would be interested in Linda Shields answer to Lance's question
> above as well as Terry's, Millers, D
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Yesterday Bill found one of David's posts helpful
in clarifying David's use of the word 'perfect'. Bill exhibited a
heart/mind prepared to change.
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In a message dated 3/31/2005 6:38:55 AM Pacific Standard
In a message dated 3/31/2005 3:55:07 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Torrance writes;
âThe covenant between God and Israel was not a covenant between God and a holy people, but precisely the reverse. It was a covenant established out of pure grace between God and Israel in its
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Lance, this is a very strange comment coming from the only one in your âcampâ who refused to even discuss the meaning of that scripture. All of us have explained our understanding of it. We are still waitin
IFF no amount of
Scriptural support for another understanding will EVER see any one of you alter
your position then, how
are we to engage one another?
Lance, this is a very strange comment coming from the only one in your “camp”
who refused to even discuss the meaning of that scripture.
In a message dated 3/31/2005 5:58:12 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
IFF no amount of Scriptural support for another understanding will EVER see any one of you alter your position then, how are we to engage one another?
Lance, this is a very strange comment coming from the
How can we get beyond 'camps'? Kevin cited a verse
from John with the understanding that no correct interpretation of it
could be other than the one that he and, I assumeyou, Linda & David hold to
also. IFF the understanding that you, collectively, hold on this and, on other
matters is co
to us by you
also.
From:
Judy
Taylor
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Sent: March 31, 2005 06:51
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Torrance and
Sin - Holy People?
On Thu, 31 Mar 2005 04:34:01 -0500 "Lance Muir" <[EM
On Thu, 31 Mar 2005 04:34:01 -0500 "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
From: Jonathan Hughes
TF Torrance quote to follow. Keep in mind the short discussion we
had today regarding whether the real problem we face is sin. Torrance
does a beautiful 180 here and states that
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From: Jonathan Hughes
To: Lance Muir
Sent: March 30, 2005 20:53
Subject: Torrance and Sin - Holy People?
TF Torrance quote to follow. Keep in mind the short
discussion we had today regarding whether the real problem we face is sin.
Torrance does a beautiful
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