Re: [TruthTalk] just the BIBLE Dave

2004-01-19 Thread Kevin Deegan
Y of God.Blaine Borrowman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: ----- Original Message - From: Kevin Deegan To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2004 3:14 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] just the BIBLE Dave "...We must accept the fact that there was a time when Deity was much le

Re: [TruthTalk] just the BIBLE Dave

2004-01-16 Thread Charles Perry Locke
uot;Blaine Borrowman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] just the BIBLE Dave Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2004 22:38:25 -0700 Blaine: Is there one god in this universe of yours, Perry? Did he create it all? It seems to be a scientific fact that there are billions of suns like our own, so it s

Re: [TruthTalk] just the BIBLE Dave

2004-01-16 Thread Kevin Deegan
have you heard others Testify of their Dead relatives testifying to them?Blaine Borrowman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:   - Original Message - From: Kevin Deegan To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 16, 2004 8:22 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] just the BIBLE Dave It

Re: [TruthTalk] just the BIBLE Dave

2004-01-16 Thread Blaine Borrowman
  - Original Message - From: Kevin Deegan To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 16, 2004 8:22 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] just the BIBLE Dave It really DEPENDS on what the DEFINITION of IS, IS!   Blaine have you been communicating with

Re: [TruthTalk] just the BIBLE Dave

2004-01-16 Thread Kevin Deegan
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Re: [TruthTalk] just the BIBLE Dave

2004-01-16 Thread LaurHamm
In a message dated 1/16/2004 9:01:47 AM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: OK So when I get back if there are a lot of posts from you I can assume you have egg on your face!  RIGHT???  Laura DAVEH:  Hey, hey there, Laura..That sounds like a personal attack!  Who do you think w

Re: [TruthTalk] just the BIBLE Dave

2004-01-16 Thread Dave
(B (B (B  (B[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (B In a message dated 1/16/2004 1:03:16 AM Central (BStandard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: (BDAVEH:  (BSurely not from me, Laura...I ONLY post when somebody eggs me on!!!    (B (BOK So when I get back if there are a lot of posts from you I

Re: [TruthTalk] just the BIBLE Dave

2004-01-16 Thread Blaine Borrowman
  - Original Message - From: Kevin Deegan To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2004 4:32 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] just the BIBLE Dave So the Father of the Father was running the whole universe.   Jesus is the creator of the heavens

Re: [TruthTalk] just the BIBLE Dave

2004-01-16 Thread Blaine Borrowman
- Original Message - From: "Charles Perry Locke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2004 4:52 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] just the BIBLE Dave > > >From: Kevin Deegan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > >

Re: [TruthTalk] just the BIBLE Dave

2004-01-16 Thread Blaine Borrowman
Locke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2004 4:42 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] just the BIBLE Dave > Blaine, > > The universe is all that exists, whether we can perceive it or not, > excluding the God of the universe (evident in t

Re: [TruthTalk] just the BIBLE Dave

2004-01-16 Thread Blaine Borrowman
nuary 14, 2004 12:26 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] just the BIBLE Dave In a message dated 1/13/2004 5:46:18 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Since the only god (with whom we LDs have to do) - the father - Elohim is of the same genetic makeup as Satan i

Re: [TruthTalk] just the BIBLE Dave

2004-01-16 Thread LaurHamm
In a message dated 1/16/2004 1:03:16 AM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: DAVEH:  Surely not from me, Laura...I ONLY post when somebody eggs me on!!!    OK So when I get back if there are a lot of posts from you I can assume you have egg on your face!  RIGHT???  Laura

Re: [TruthTalk] just the BIBLE Dave

2004-01-16 Thread Dean Moore
      Dean Moore Fear God and keep His commandments/ trust Jesus     - Original Message - From: To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 1/15/2004 11:31:42 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] just the BIBLE Dave In a message dated 1/15/2004 10:18:35 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes

Re: [TruthTalk] just the BIBLE Dave

2004-01-16 Thread Dave
(B (B (B  (B[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (B In a message dated 1/15/2004 10:18:35 PM Central (BStandard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: (BDAVEH:  (BI think that is an understatement, Laura.  While I'm not at all (Bsurprised about that, what I find rather interesting (Bis the length some (Bf

Re: [TruthTalk] just the BIBLE Dave

2004-01-15 Thread LaurHamm
In a message dated 1/15/2004 10:18:35 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: DAVEH:  I think that is an understatement, Laura.  While I'm not at allsurprised about that, what I find rather interesting is the length somefolks go to try to tell me what I believe rather than asking.  I

Re: [TruthTalk] just the BIBLE Dave

2004-01-15 Thread Dave
(B (B[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (B (B> I got itIt seems like there are differences among us as to what (B> Mormon's believe. Laura (B (BDAVEH: I think that is an understatement, Laura. While I'm not at all (Bsurprised about that, what I find rather interesting is the length some (Bfo

Re: [TruthTalk] just the BIBLE Dave

2004-01-15 Thread Kevin Deegan
Similar to another one: A Mormon can not find the TRUTH, for the same reason a Bank Robber can not find a Police Officer!   But with God All Things are Possible!Charles Perry Locke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >From: Kevin Deegan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>>That is EASY, because that is where mankind lives!

Re: [TruthTalk] just the BIBLE Dave

2004-01-15 Thread Charles Perry Locke
From: Kevin Deegan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> That is EASY, because that is where mankind lives! Kevin, that is the true, great, and ONLY right answer to the question! It reminds of the interview of a former bank robber. When asked why he robbed banks, he simply replied, "Because that's where the mo

Re: [TruthTalk] just the BIBLE Dave

2004-01-15 Thread Charles Perry Locke
. Perry From: "Blaine Borrowman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] just the BIBLE Dave Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2004 16:29:13 -0700 Blaine: I thought you were driving at that, but first I wanted to establish that we believ

Re: [TruthTalk] just the BIBLE Dave

2004-01-15 Thread Kevin Deegan
anuary 15, 2004 3:14 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] just the BIBLE Dave "...We must accept the fact that there was a time when Deity was much less powerful than He is today. Then how did He become glorified and exalted and attain His present status of Godhood? In the first place, aeons ag

Re: [TruthTalk] just the BIBLE Dave

2004-01-15 Thread Kevin Deegan
cause that is where mankind lives! Blaine Borrowman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:   - Original Message - From: Kevin Deegan To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2004 3:14 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] just the BIBLE Dave "...We must accept the fact that there was a

Re: [TruthTalk] just the BIBLE Dave

2004-01-15 Thread Blaine Borrowman
uot;King of the Universe," we first must define the term "Universe."How do you define that, Perry? - Original Message - From: "Charles Perry Locke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2004 2:55 PM Subject: Re: [TruthT

Re: [TruthTalk] just the BIBLE Dave

2004-01-15 Thread Blaine Borrowman
  - Original Message - From: Kevin Deegan To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2004 3:14 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] just the BIBLE Dave "...We must accept the fact that there was a time when Deity was much less powerful than He is

Re: [TruthTalk] just the BIBLE Dave

2004-01-15 Thread LaurHamm
In a message dated 1/15/2004 8:52:24 AM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Do you understand that scenario, Laura? I got it    It seems like there are differences among us as to what Mormon's believe.  Laura

Re: [TruthTalk] just the BIBLE Dave

2004-01-15 Thread Kevin Deegan
said, let US make man in OUR image, after OUR likeness . . ."- Original Message - From: "Charles Perry Locke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2004 10:46 PMSubject: Re: [TruthTalk] just the BIBLE Dave>>>> >

Re: [TruthTalk] just the BIBLE Dave

2004-01-15 Thread Charles Perry Locke
Blaine wrote: Other gods? When the plural is used by Mormons, it means God the Father, Jesus Christ the Son, and the Holy Ghost. These are the same plurality being referred to in the Bible in Genesis 1: 26 which states: "And God said, let US make man in OUR image, after OUR likeness . . ."

Re: [TruthTalk] just the BIBLE Dave

2004-01-15 Thread Blaine Borrowman
eness . . ." - Original Message - From: "Charles Perry Locke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2004 10:46 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] just the BIBLE Dave > > > > >From: "Blaine Borrowman" <[EMAIL PROTECT

Re: [TruthTalk] just the BIBLE Dave

2004-01-15 Thread Charles Perry Locke
ROTECTED] Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] just the BIBLE Dave Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2004 21:44:15 -0800 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > In a message dated 1/14/2004 8:33:43 PM Central Standard Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > LDS teachings are SHOCKING > > Dave HDo you agree that ON

Re: [TruthTalk] just the BIBLE Dave

2004-01-15 Thread Dave
(B (B (B  (B[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (B In a message dated 1/14/2004 11:48:48 PM Central (BStandard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: (BIn (Ba message dated 1/14/2004 8:28:43 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bwrites: (B    According to LDS (Btheology you must join the ONE TRUE

Re: [TruthTalk] just the BIBLE Dave

2004-01-15 Thread Dave
  Kevin Deegan wrote: Your words ring HOLLOW Dave!I have drawn NO CONCLUSIONWORDS MEAN SOMETHINGWords mean what they say & say what they meanAlso Joe said the "scriptures mean what they say & say what they mean" ToPJS p264UNLESS of course all Mormon words must be intrepreted & Blessed by someone

Re: [TruthTalk] just the BIBLE Dave

2004-01-15 Thread Kevin Deegan
Also..the Church of Jesus Christ of LDS came into existence in 1830.  Obviously, we believe people who lived before that time will have the opportunity of salvation (entering heaven).   And why are they LOST? Because the ONE TRUE CHURCH was not existant.   So how are they Redeemed NOW? The ONE

Re: [TruthTalk] just the BIBLE Dave

2004-01-15 Thread Kevin Deegan
Also..the Church of Jesus Christ of LDS came into existence in 1830.  Obviously, we believe people who lived before that time will have the opportunity of salvation (entering heaven).   And why are they LOST? Because the ONE TRUE CHURCH was not existant.   So how are they Redeemed NOW? The ONE

Re: [TruthTalk] just the BIBLE Dave

2004-01-15 Thread Kevin Deegan
Your words ring HOLLOW Dave! I have drawn NO CONCLUSION WORDS MEAN SOMETHING Words mean what they say & say what they mean Also Joe said the "scriptures mean what they say & say what they mean" ToPJS p264 UNLESS of course all Mormon words must be intrepreted & Blessed by someone with special int

Re: [TruthTalk] just the BIBLE Dave

2004-01-15 Thread LaurHamm
In a message dated 1/14/2004 11:48:48 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In a message dated 1/14/2004 8:28:43 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:     According to LDS theology you must join the ONE TRUE Church     There is NO salvation outside of that church   

Re: [TruthTalk] just the BIBLE Dave

2004-01-14 Thread Dave
(B (B (B  (B[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (B In a message dated 1/14/2004 8:33:43 PM Central (BStandard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: (BLDS (Bteachings are SHOCKING (BDave H    Do you agree that ONLY a Mormon can receive salvation?  (BAND That you can only be saved by joining a LDS Church? 

Re: [TruthTalk] just the BIBLE Dave

2004-01-14 Thread Dave
  Kevin Deegan wrote: LDS teachings are SHOCKING! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 1/13/2004 5:46:18 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Since the only god (with whom we LDs have to do) - the father - Elohim is of the same genetic makeup as Satan in LDS theologyAnd Sata

Re: [TruthTalk] just the BIBLE Dave

2004-01-14 Thread LaurHamm
In a message dated 1/14/2004 8:33:43 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: LDS teachings are SHOCKING Dave H    Do you agree that ONLY a Mormon can receive salvation?  AND That you can only be saved by joining a LDS Church?  Laura

Re: [TruthTalk] just the BIBLE Dave

2004-01-14 Thread Kevin Deegan
LDS teachings are SHOCKING![EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 1/13/2004 5:46:18 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Since the only god (with whom we LDs have to do) - the father - Elohim is of the same genetic makeup as Satan in LDS theology And Satan and his brother Je

Re: [TruthTalk] just the BIBLE Dave

2004-01-14 Thread LaurHamm
In a message dated 1/13/2004 5:46:18 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Since the only god (with whom we LDs have to do) - the father - Elohim is of the same genetic makeup as Satan in LDS theology And Satan and his brother Jesus - the son - Jehovah is of the same genetic makeu

Re: [TruthTalk] just the BIBLE Dave

2004-01-13 Thread Charles Perry Locke
From: "Blaine Borrowman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] just the BIBLE Dave Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2004 19:15:05 -0700 God knew he secretly intended to usurp his throne, and assume his honor and glory a

Re: [TruthTalk] just the BIBLE Dave

2004-01-13 Thread Blaine Borrowman
  - Original Message - From: Kevin Deegan To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2004 4:43 PM Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] just the BIBLE Dave Since the only god (with whom we LDs have to do) - the father - Elohim is of the same genetic makeup

RE: [TruthTalk] just the BIBLE Dave

2004-01-13 Thread Kevin Deegan
Since the only god (with whom we LDs have to do) - the father - Elohim is of the same genetic makeup as Satan in LDS theology And Satan and his brother Jesus - the son - Jehovah is of the same genetic makeup in LDS theology   It logically folows that Satan & Elohim are on a level playing field. Th

RE: [TruthTalk] just the BIBLE Dave

2004-01-13 Thread David Miller
Blaine wrote: > I think it can safely be assumed the Lord meant to bless > Joseph Smith with all things promised, but when one is > murdered, does this not take matters out of the hands > of the Lord? I do not believe that anybody can murder a man of God unless the Lord allows it. Have you not

RE: [TruthTalk] just the BIBLE Dave

2004-01-12 Thread David Miller
David Miller wrote: > "... I give unto my servant Joseph that he shall be made ruler over many > things; for he hath been faithful over a few things, and from henceforth > I will strengthen him.  And I command mine handmaid, Emma Smith, to > abide and cleave unto my servant Joseph, and to none e

Re: [TruthTalk] just the BIBLE Dave

2004-01-09 Thread Dean Moore
> > Blaine wrote: I think it can safely be assumed the Lord meant to bless > Joseph Smith with all things promised, but when one is murdered, does > this not take matters out of the hands of the Lord? Dean writes: When one receives a promise from God then no one can take away that promise-

Re: [TruthTalk] just the BIBLE Dave

2004-01-08 Thread bborrow26
Blaine writes: That would be, as I said, conjectural/philosophical, but my OPINION is that JS's murderers take responsibility not only for any sins Joseph might not have repented of, but for him NOT receiving the blessings intended for him as a result of his faithfulness in keeping the Lord's comma

Re: [TruthTalk] just the BIBLE Dave

2004-01-08 Thread bborrow26
Blaine wrote: I think it can safely be assumed the Lord meant to bless Joseph Smith with all things promised, but when one is murdered, does this not take matters out of the hands of the Lord? I realize this is a philosophical question, one that may not be answerable in light of scripture. Howe

Re: [TruthTalk] just the BIBLE Dave

2004-01-08 Thread Kevin Deegan
So would the murderer take on joe's sins?[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Blaine wrote: I think it can safely be assumed the Lord meant to blessJoseph Smith with all things promised, but when one is murdered, doesthis not take matters out of the hands of the Lord? I realize this is aphilosophical question,

Re: [TruthTalk] just the BIBLE Dave

2004-01-08 Thread bborrow26
Blaine wrote: I think it can safely be assumed the Lord meant to bless Joseph Smith with all things promised, but when one is murdered, does this not take matters out of the hands of the Lord? I realize this is a philosophical question, one that may not be answerable in light of scripture. Howe

Re: [TruthTalk] just the BIBLE Dave

2004-01-08 Thread Kevin Deegan
God PROMISED him things IN THIS WORLD Yet, It was Emma that survived and was blessed. She even lived to see her grandkids. Joe was not long for this world.   verse 55 But if she will not abide this commandment, then shall my servant Joseph do all things for her, even as he hath said; and I will ble

Re: [TruthTalk] just the BIBLE Dave

2004-01-08 Thread Dave
  David Miller wrote: Michael D wrote: > Dave H, You asked me earlier when I said J Smith was > proven to be a false prophet in the past on TT, what > was the occasion of the false prophecy. Well, it has > been posted on TT (Thanx David) for some time now. > My question is do you see this prophec

Re: [TruthTalk] just the BIBLE Dave

2004-01-07 Thread Dave
  irebukeu wrote: DavidH and Blaine, How can you continue in a system DAVEH:  As I ponder the alternative that is being offered by folks who wave my religion in my face to embarrass me.well, what I've got now looks a lot better to me, Perry. in which the founder consistently uttered false

Re: [TruthTalk] Just the BIBLE Dave

2004-01-07 Thread Dave
DAVEH:  My latest comments are in GREEN.   Dean Moore wrote:   Dean Moore wrote:  Dean:Yet you are allowed to continue on-even smilingat me asking "Are you getting angry Dean :-) And Judysaid that I should love you also. Judy: Judy didn't say this Dean.  Jesus commands it.# You are

Re: [TruthTalk] just the BIBLE Dave/Blaine

2004-01-05 Thread ttxpress
no--they read good here, Perry; thx:) g ottoson :: http://poet235.com   On Tue, 30 Dec 2003 18:54:11 -0800 "Charles Perry Locke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Blaine, I have no idea why your email reader can't handle my posts...anyone else having this problem with my posts? P

RE: [TruthTalk] just the BIBLE Dave/Blaine

2004-01-05 Thread Charles Perry Locke
ECTED]> Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] just the BIBLE Dave/Blaine Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2004 09:10:16 -0500 Perry wrote: > I have no idea why your email reader can't handle > my posts...anyone else having this problem with > my posts? It probably has to do with his email settings. Your ema

RE: [TruthTalk] just the BIBLE Dave/Blaine

2004-01-05 Thread David Miller
Perry wrote: > I have no idea why your email reader can't handle > my posts...anyone else having this problem with > my posts? It probably has to do with his email settings. Your emails are in HTML. He is sending plain text messages. His settings are probably setup to make HTML emails to which

Re: [TruthTalk] just the BIBLE Dave/Blaine

2004-01-05 Thread Terry Clifton
No problems. Terry - Original Message - From: Dean Moore To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 05, 2004 6:01 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] just the BIBLE Dave/Blaine     Blaine, I have no idea why your email reader can&#

Re: [TruthTalk] just the BIBLE Dave/Blaine

2004-01-05 Thread Dean Moore
    Blaine, I have no idea why your email reader can't handle my posts...anyone else having this problem with my posts? Perry   Dean writes:  Coming thru loud and clear on my end. Your last letter was in an attachment-but this was your first that i received as such and assumed you were avo

Re: [TruthTalk] just the BIBLE Dave/Blaine

2004-01-05 Thread Charles Perry Locke
Blaine, I have no idea why your email reader can't handle my posts...anyone else having this problem with my posts? Perry   Worried about inbox overload? Get MSN Extra Storage now! -- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer eve

Re: [TruthTalk] just the BIBLE Dave/Blaine

2003-12-30 Thread Kevin Deegan
Have you read "By his own hand upon Papyrus"? It is a must read for the fanatical "I know the Church is True" Mormon, who can't tell truth from fiction.[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Perry, I am glad you read the Davinci Code, it is definitely a must fornarrow-minded bible thumping enthusiasts who believ

Re: [TruthTalk] just the BIBLE Dave/Blaine

2003-12-30 Thread bborrow26
As usual, I can't copy or paste anything from your post. Have any idea what is happening? As I mentioned, your posts are the only ones that do that?? However, i will try to reply, hoping you remember what you said--something about being led astray if I turn to art or JS for my truth. Try to re

Re: [TruthTalk] just the BIBLE Dave/Blaine

2003-12-30 Thread Charles Perry Locke
s the only word of God". Thanks for the complement. You see me for what I am. When you begin to turn to fiction, or art, or even to JS to get your truth, you you will soon be led astray. Perry >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject

Re: [TruthTalk] just the BIBLE Dave/Blaine

2003-12-30 Thread bborrow26
Perry, I am glad you read the Davinci Code, it is definitely a must for narrow-minded bible thumping enthusiasts who believe the Bible is the only word of God. The Davinci Code is not only a work of fiction, it is an art form--art forms, as the book points out, are often used to get important id

Re: [TruthTalk] just the BIBLE Dave/Blaine

2003-12-29 Thread Charles Perry Locke
[EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] just the BIBLE Dave/Blaine >Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2003 21:19:01 -0700 > >Blaine:  I read it!!  It does not even begin to cover what was removed >and/or changed from the Bible, but it is a good start.  It does do

Re: [TruthTalk] just the BIBLE Dave/Blaine

2003-12-29 Thread bborrow26
Blaine: I read it!! It does not even begin to cover what was removed and/or changed from the Bible, but it is a good start. It does do a good job of pointing out the fundamental FACT that the Bible as it is today is the product of centuries of tinkering, deleting and changing. The big surpris

Re: [TruthTalk] just the BIBLE Dave/Blaine

2003-12-29 Thread bborrow26
Blaine: This is definitely TRUTHtalk . . . On Fri, 26 Dec 2003 08:42:09 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Ruben: > >>We..push..the God of the Bible. > > and he hates whoever you hate, eh? > > g ottoson :: http://poet235.com -- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with sa

Fw: Re: [TruthTalk] just the BIBLE Dave/Blaine

2003-12-28 Thread jandgtaylor1
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Are you aware the Catholic Church destroyed approximately 80 religious works/ gospels when compiling the Bible.? Are you aware Constantine, a pagan himself, was the king who called together the council that decided what to include in the Bible and what to reject? Are you a

Re: [TruthTalk] just the BIBLE Dave/Blaine

2003-12-27 Thread Kevin Deegan
Did any of you MORMaNS read the Book of Mormon? No need to go to the store to get you a copy of TIME ( I thought it was a popular magazine not a scholarly) Read the BOM no need to go any further. Let me show you what the "MOST CORRECT BOOK ON EARTH" says:   Since Joe brought us the RESTORATION, whe

Re: [TruthTalk] just the BIBLE Dave/Blaine

2003-12-27 Thread Dave Hansen
DAVEH: Did any TTers read the December 22 issue of TIME Magazine? There is an article about the lost books of the Bible in it. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Are you aware the Catholic Church destroyed approximately 80 religious > works/ gospels when compiling the Bible.? Are you aware Constantine

Re: [TruthTalk] just the BIBLE Dave/Blaine

2003-12-27 Thread bborrow26
Are you aware the Catholic Church destroyed approximately 80 religious works/ gospels when compiling the Bible.? Are you aware Constantine, a pagan himself, was the king who called together the council that decided what to include in the Bible and what to reject? Are you aware it was done by a sm

Re: [TruthTalk] just the BIBLE Dave/ttxpress

2003-12-27 Thread ttxpress
apparently you're dedicated to *'closing your barn door after the horses bolt'; perhaps try inquiring politely what God's up to before you start pushin' him around   g   -- Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2003 08:42:09 -0700 Ruben: >>We..push..the God of the Bible. * On Fri, 26 Dec 2003 17:32:52 -0800

Re: [TruthTalk] just the BIBLE Dave/ttxpress

2003-12-26 Thread irebukeu
ttxpress and he hates whoever you hate, eh? Ruben: No I try to hate whoever or whatever He (God) hates. Do you think God can hate? Do you think anyone in the Bible hates? One last question, can you give me a Bible verse, where God cannot hate rather than a poem? -- "Let your speech be al

Re: [TruthTalk] just the BIBLE Dave/Blaine

2003-12-26 Thread ttxpress
Ruben: >>We..push..the God of the Bible.   and he hates whoever you hate, eh?   g ottoson :: http://poet235.com

Re: [TruthTalk] just the BIBLE Dave/Blaine

2003-12-25 Thread irebukeu
Kevin: OK, OK Every thing was going along just fine as I was reading this. Till the suit thing. I want a picture of this! Ruben in a suit. I'l believe it when I see it Ruben: First rule is, when wearing my suite, no cameras or video. Kevin as you always do, keep up the pressure on these Mormons,

Re: [TruthTalk] just the BIBLE Dave/Blaine

2003-12-25 Thread Kevin Deegan
OK, OK Every thing was going along just fine as I was reading this. Till the suit thing. I want a picture of this! Ruben in a suit. I'l believe it when I see itirebukeu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: BlaineRB: They do not claim to be experts in other religions, or spendtheir time knocking them as do.c

Re: [TruthTalk] just the BIBLE Dave/Blaine

2003-12-25 Thread irebukeu
BlaineRB: They do not claim to be experts in other religions, or spend their time knocking them as do.certain guys I know Ruben: Give me one post where we said we were "experts in other religions." Whom.& when? If you Mormons interpret these posts as you translate the Bible you might end up in

Re: [TruthTalk] just the BIBLE Dave

2003-12-23 Thread Blaine R Borrowman
Kevin,  I have many times opened my door to "witnesses."  I even went to the Temple Square sidewalk to meet Dean.  When I find anti-Mormon booths at fairs, I always stop and talk to them.  I do this because I want to know where they are coming from.  I realize what you are saying about some

Re: [TruthTalk] just the BIBLE Dave

2003-12-22 Thread Kevin Deegan
LDS are taught 1) Contention is of the devil 2) God only gives good feelings   The purpose is: 1) When someone witnesses to them and gets to close to home, they suddenly remember a prior appointment, so they do not hear anymore witness. 2) so when they get under conviction or realize that they are

Re: [TruthTalk] Just the BIBLE Dave

2003-12-22 Thread Blaine R Borrowman
Hi DaveH,   As usual,  you write  interesting comments calculated to bring out the truth, but somehow it never comes out--I saw a sign on a jr. high music teacher's wall the other day--it read,  "Never try to teach a monkey to sing--you will only feel frustrated, and you will annoy the monke

Re: [TruthTalk] just the BIBLE Dave

2003-12-22 Thread Blaine R Borrowman
    On Tue, 16 Dec 2003 22:08:56 -0800 (PST) Kevin Deegan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Blaine you claim Ruben should have a very good understanding  of mormonism before he even attempts to go preach to them. Do you hold this standard also for the 60,000 LDS missionaries that go door t

Re: [TruthTalk] Just the BIBLE Dave

2003-12-22 Thread Blaine R Borrowman
On Sat, 20 Dec 2003 17:48:36 -0500 "Dean Moore" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > > > > > Hi Dean, Hey is this really what you mean? Not to be > antagonistic, but > > this sounds like YOU have a devil in YOU. Dave is always so calm, > and > > collected, and REASOBABLE, above all!! I ge

RE: [TruthTalk] Just the BIBLE Dave

2003-12-22 Thread David Miller
Kevin wrote: > I have seen the Pag over 100 times! > > I think it is AWESOME, > AS FAR AS IT IS TRANSLATED CORRECTLY! ROTFLOL! Peace be with you. David Miller, Beverly Hills, Florida. -- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer

RE: [TruthTalk] just the BIBLE Dave

2003-12-22 Thread michael douglas
Michael D: Dave H, I did not notice a response to David's and my request for your explanation re the pprophecy of J. Smith below and it's non-fulfilment. I am truly eager to hear your reply, as David stated that he is, and I am sure alot of other TTers are as well. Would you oblige?michael douglas

RE: [TruthTalk] Just the BIBLE Dave

2003-12-22 Thread Kevin Deegan
Thanks for the scripture that is a good one. that is exactly what I am talking about.   The HCP is just one of the LDS outdoor Pagaents, given mostly in Utah. They have different stories. The HCP is at the Hill where supposedly MIllions of warriors fought & died. It is also where Joe supposedly fou

Re: [TruthTalk] Just the BIBLE Dave

2003-12-22 Thread Dean Moore
      - Original Message - From: Dave To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 12/22/2003 2:27:18 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Just the BIBLE Dave DAVEH:  My latest comments are in BLUE. Dean Moore wrote:  Dean:Yet you are allowed to continue on-even smilingat me asking "Ar

RE: [TruthTalk] Just the BIBLE Dave

2003-12-22 Thread ShieldsFamily
    Kevin, You are so right about that. It is all show and pretense, and parading of worldly riches. What is the Hill Cumorah pag? Izzy   Mark 12:38 “And he said unto them in his doctrine, Beware of the scribes, which love to go in long clothing, and love salutations in the marke

Re: [TruthTalk] Just the BIBLE Dave

2003-12-22 Thread Dave
DAVEH:  My latest comments are in BLUE. Dean Moore wrote:  Dean:Yet you are allowed to continue on-even smilingat me asking "Are you getting angry Dean :-) And Judysaid that I should love you also. Judy: Judy didn't say this Dean.  Jesus commands it.# You are a liar Judy-Jesus never

Re: [TruthTalk] Just the BIBLE Dave

2003-12-21 Thread Dave
DAVEH:  HmmmBlaine, it seems you may have hit a raw nerve here!   Kevin Deegan wrote: Liars Decievers SeducersThat is part of the SEDUCERAlways give the appearance of piousnessAll Phony men of God put on the Dog & Pony show for the Sheeples.Ever watch the Pope? Why does he always wal

Re: [TruthTalk] just the BIBLE Dave/Blaine

2003-12-21 Thread Blaine R Borrowman
Hi again Judy,    I think we are closer in beliefs than you think.  I don't even disagree with most of what you have said.  However, one of our articles of faith states, "We believe men (and women) will be punished for their own sins, and not for Adam's transgression."  We do not believe in

Re: [TruthTalk] Just the BIBLE Dave

2003-12-21 Thread Kevin Deegan
Liars Decievers Seducers That is part of the SEDUCER Always give the appearance of piousness All Phony men of God put on the Dog & Pony show for the Sheeples. Ever watch the Pope? Why does he always walk around with his hands clasped as in prayer? Why all the dresses that they wear? The smoke & inc

Re: [TruthTalk] Just the BIBLE Dave

2003-12-20 Thread Dean Moore
> > Hi Dean, Hey is this really what you mean? Not to be antagonistic, but > this sounds like YOU have a devil in YOU. Dave is always so calm, and > collected, and REASOBABLE, above all!! I get the feeling you are > frustrated because . . . ? Dean writres: What do you and I have to ta

Re: [TruthTalk] just the BIBLE Dave/Blaine

2003-12-19 Thread bborrow26
On Fri, 19 Dec 2003 21:22:38 -0500 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > *** Actually Judy, from my point of view, it seems you are doing > the > same think (I misspelled "thing" but decided the new word fit > better)--reading your own interpretation into it. Did you get y

Re: [TruthTalk] Just the BIBLE Dave

2003-12-19 Thread bborrow26
-- > From: Dave > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 12/18/2003 1:40:24 AM > Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Just the BIBLE Dave > > > DAVEH: My latest comments are in RED. > Dean: Yet you are allowed to continue on-even smilingat me asking > "Are you getti

Re: [TruthTalk] just the BIBLE Dave/Blaine

2003-12-19 Thread bborrow26
On Wed, 17 Dec 2003 05:53:44 -0500 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > > From: Blaine R Borrowman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Ruben wrote: Then we arrive at Salt Lake city in the same fashion, > where we exhort those that have perverted God, teaching that he was > once > like us.or we will be gods.

Re: [TruthTalk] Just the BIBLE Dave

2003-12-19 Thread bborrow26
BlaineRB: "For envy they had delivered him, . . . " Matt 27:18 On Wed, 17 Dec 2003 11:54:26 -0500 "Dean Moore" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > - Original Message - > From: > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 12/17/2003 8:32:53 AM > Subject: [TruthTalk] Just the BIBLE Dave > >

Re: [TruthTalk] Just the BIBLE Dave

2003-12-19 Thread bborrow26
Hi Dean, Hey is this really what you mean? Not to be antagonistic, but this sounds like YOU have a devil in YOU. Dave is always so calm, and collected, and REASOBABLE, above all!! I get the feeling you are frustrated because . . . ? BlainerB On Wed, 17 Dec 2003 07:45:14 -0500 "Dean Moore

Re: [TruthTalk] Just the BIBLE Dave

2003-12-19 Thread Kevin Deegan
The Bible commands me to REBUKE FALSE TEACHERS! I can not let them go on in error. Who would let them alone, knowing of a horrible Hell they are headed for? What I want to know is why do they keep coming back for more? Dave what other reason than they know that I have the TRUTH, keeps them coming b

RE: [TruthTalk] just the BIBLE Dave

2003-12-18 Thread David Miller
Michael D wrote: > Dave H, You asked me earlier when I said J Smith was > proven to be a false prophet in the past on TT, what > was the occasion of the false prophecy. Well, it has > been posted on TT (Thanx David) for some time now. > My question is do you see this prophecy and its > non-fulf

RE: [TruthTalk] just the BIBLE Dave

2003-12-18 Thread michael douglas
Michael D: Dave H, You asked me earlier when I said J Smith was proven to be a false prophet in the past on TT, what was the occasion of the false prophecy. Well, it has been posted on TT (Thanx David) for some time now.   My question is do you see this prophecy and its non-fulfilment as evidence

RE: [TruthTalk] Just the BIBLE Dave

2003-12-18 Thread David Miller
David Miller wrote: > From that time many of his disciples went back, and > walked no more with him. Then said Jesus unto the twelve, > Will ye also go away? Then Simon Peter answered him, > Lord, to whom shall we go? thou hast the words of eternal > life. And we believe and are sure that thou

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