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2005-06-03 Thread Lance Muir
Are we ALL as predictable as you, Judy? Given this I'm not sure why you don't just have two 'repeater' words: 'Amen' for David (by extension, Christine), Izzie& Kevin. 'Nein' for all of the rest of us. The time you could save, Judy! - Original Message - From: Judy Taylor

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2005-06-03 Thread knpraise
  Absolutely.    -Original Message-From: Lance Muir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Fri, 3 Jun 2005 16:12:14 -0400Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Exerpts Are we ALL as predictable as you, Judy? Given this I'm not sure why you don't just have two

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2005-06-03 Thread Judy Taylor
If one goes around imbibing spiritual atmospheres where is spiritual discernment?  The animal kingdom are the ones who are led by instinct.  Human beings need to learn and God makes sure we are taught to know the voice of the Shepherd.  jt   On Fri, 3 Jun 2005 16:12:14 -0400 "Lance Muir" <[EM

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2005-06-03 Thread knpraise
JD -Original Message-From: Judy Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgCc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Fri, 3 Jun 2005 17:16:27 -0400Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Exerpts If one goes around imbibing spiritual atmospheres where is spiritual discernment?  The anima

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2005-06-03 Thread ttxpress
dualistically, then, false worship depends on an incorrect heart attitude   On Fri, 3 Jun 2005 15:58:39 -0400 Judy Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: true worship depends upon a correct heart attitude

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2005-06-03 Thread ShieldsFamily
Excellent points, Judy.  Worship can be acceptable or unacceptable to God.  If it feels good, it isn’t necessarily acceptable to Him.  I sat in on part of a church service in which the “Reverend” was a lesbian, and the congregation was filled with sodomites.  They were quite into their “com

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2005-06-03 Thread Judy Taylor
Don't believe I've ever used the word "liberal" on TT JD.  I am into truth vs error rather than liberal vs whatever... and what's this with the angst?  Where did that come from?  jt   On Fri, 03 Jun 2005 18:58:42 -0400 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Have you read Eph 5:18-20.   Think "imbi

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2005-06-03 Thread Judy Taylor
Sure it does, these are the ones who descended into Sheoll rejoicing ... read about it in Isaiah 5:13,14   On Fri, 3 Jun 2005 18:57:29 -0600 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: dualistically, then, false worship depends on an incorrect heart attitude   On Fri, 3 Jun 2005 15:58:39 -0400 Judy

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2005-06-03 Thread ttxpress
what church?   On Fri, 3 Jun 2005 20:24:05 -0500 "ShieldsFamily" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: ..a church service..in which the “Reverend” was a lesbian

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2005-06-03 Thread knpraise
Fri, 3 Jun 2005 23:36:43 -0400Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Exerpts Don't believe I've ever used the word "liberal" on TT JD.  I am into truth vs error rather than liberal vs whatever... and what's this with the angst?  Where did that come from?  jt   On Fri, 03 Jun 200

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2005-06-04 Thread ShieldsFamily
:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 9:15 PM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Exerpts   what church?   On Fri, 3 Jun 2005 20:24:05 -0500 "ShieldsFamily" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: ..a church servi

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2005-06-04 Thread Lance Muir
dsFamily To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: June 04, 2005 10:42 Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Exerpts Methodist, around the corner from our home.  One of the great liberal city churches in these huge, beautiful turn of the century buildings.  They are all peppered with sodomites.  No wond

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2005-06-04 Thread ShieldsFamily
m: ShieldsFamily To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: June 04, 2005 10:42 Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Exerpts   Methodist, around the corner from our home.  One of the great liberal city churches in these huge, beautiful turn of the century buildings.  They are all peppered with

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2005-06-04 Thread Lance Muir
remain nameless (eh?)!  - Original Message - From: ShieldsFamily To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: June 04, 2005 11:11 Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Exerpts I suppose you would sit there and celebrate the community of diversity under the leadership of

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2005-06-04 Thread ShieldsFamily
ANSWER THE QUESTION LANCE.   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance Muir Sent: Saturday, June 04, 2005 9:16 AM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Exerpts   I, for one, do not blame such as yourself, who choose the '

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2005-06-04 Thread David Miller
Lance wrote: > I, for one, do not blame such as yourself, who choose > the 'broad road' that leadeth to fellowshipping with 'non-sinners'. > What was it again that Jesus was criticized for? > With whom was he hanging out? Let's make one thing clear. Jesus did not have fellowship with sinners. I

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2005-06-04 Thread Judy Taylor
I knew it!  You definitely do have your own exclusive Bible Lance.  Where do you read that Jesus went to fellowship with "sodomites, whores, liberals, crazies, and the like"  In my Bibles they came to Him ... In fact read John 2:23-25 and you will see that during the Passover there were many

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2005-06-04 Thread ShieldsFamily
@mail.innglory.org Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Exerpts   I knew it!  You definitely do have your own exclusive Bible Lance.  Where do you read that Jesus went to fellowship with "sodomites, whores, liberals, crazies, and the like"  In my Bibles they c

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2005-06-04 Thread ttxpress
Isaiah's point about false worship solidifies in ch2, relates to 'trusting in man'; in ch5, Isaiah condemns the arrogant attitude/s of God's people; e.g., '..you live alone in the land'  (5:8), a criticism of their economics which reflects their real poverty (lording themselves over the po

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2005-06-04 Thread knpraise
myth (read:lie)  :  Gary O has no relationship with the Word of God   JD  -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Sat, 4 Jun 2005 14:01:25 -0600Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Exerpts Isaiah's point about false worship solidifies in ch2, relat

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2005-06-04 Thread knpraise
the "left" has proven the accepted gossip to be a untrue.     JD  -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Sat, 4 Jun 2005 14:01:25 -0600Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Exerpts Isaiah's point about false worship solidifies in ch2, relates

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2005-06-04 Thread ttxpress
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 9:15 PMTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: Re: [TruthTalk] Exerpts   what church?   On Fri, 3 Jun 2005 20:24:05 -0500 "ShieldsFamily" <[EMAIL PROT

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2005-06-04 Thread Judy Taylor
That is your myth (read lie) JD because I never made a statement anything like what you have written below.  Did I say Gary O never reads the Bible? What I said is that he is not sufficiently rooted and grounded in God's Word to discern what is and what is not a genuine spiritual gift in op

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2005-06-04 Thread Kevin Deegan
Are you stuck in a RUT man?   Everything you post is either "MYTH" or "DUALISM"[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: dualistically, then, false worship depends on an incorrect heart attitude   On Fri, 3 Jun 2005 15:58:39 -0400 Judy Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: true worship depends upon a correct hear

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2005-06-04 Thread ShieldsFamily
You are so right.  An adversarial relationship, but a relationship for sure. Izzy From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Saturday, June 04, 2005 4:02 PMTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: Re: [TruthTalk] Exerpts myth (read:lie

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2005-06-04 Thread Kevin Deegan
Pr 15:8 The sacrifice of the wicked is an abomination to the LORD Pr 15:26 The thoughts of the wicked are an abomination to the LORD Pr 28:9 He that turneth away his ear from hearing the law, even his prayer shall be abomination. Pr 21:4 the plowing of the wicked, is sin. Even the "best" of the wic

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2005-06-04 Thread ShieldsFamily
I have no idea what that was supposed to mean.  So Methodists don't have church services? From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Saturday, June 04, 2005 2:41 PMTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: Re: [TruthTalk] Exerpts (the fact

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2005-06-04 Thread Kevin Deegan
He is dancing as fast as he can.ShieldsFamily <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: ANSWER THE QUESTION LANCE.   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance MuirSent: Saturday, June 04, 2005 9:16 AMTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: Re: [TruthTalk] Exerpt

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2005-06-04 Thread knpraise
You give him an endless source of matrerial.    Jd  -Original Message-From: Kevin Deegan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Sat, 4 Jun 2005 18:33:14 -0700 (PDT)Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Exerpts Are you stuck in a RUT man?   Everything you post is either &qu

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2005-06-05 Thread Kevin Deegan
OTECTED]To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Sat, 4 Jun 2005 14:01:25 -0600Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Exerpts Isaiah's point about false worship solidifies in ch2, relates to 'trusting in man'; in ch5, Isaiah condemns the arrogant attitude/s of God's people; e.g., '..yo

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2005-06-05 Thread Kevin Deegan
I don't think JD has a problem understanding I think he misrepresents others views ( as amply shown in the past) in order to shoot down the STRAW MAN he created.Judy Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: That is your myth (read lie) JD because I never made a statement anything like what you have writ

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2005-06-05 Thread knpraise
 In your first post on this subject, you did not say that at all,  Mrs.  Taylor.   Not even close.  But your side does not care what it has written  -- only what it says it has written.   Let's move on.   Jd    That is your myth (read lie) JD because I never made a statement anything like what

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2005-06-05 Thread Judy Taylor
Let me repeat; in my original post on this subject Mr. Smithson I said that neither Lance nor Gary were sufficiently rooted and grounded in God's Word to correctly discern a genuine spiritual gift in operation. Look in the archives.  This is what I said.  jt   On Sun, 05 Jun 2005 16:34:04 -04

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2005-06-05 Thread ttxpress
note the word 'correctly', below--as noted, the notion is intrinsic to (her) dualism   e.g., didn't Lance's spiritual discernment recognize correctly JCs gifts through the Spirit to Pastor Smithson?   On Sun, 5 Jun 2005 17:12:33 -0400 Judy Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: .. to correct

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2005-06-05 Thread knpraise
n a genuine spiritual gift in operation. Look in the archives.  This is what I said.  jt   Not having a good week, are we?  JD   -Original Message-From: Judy Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgCc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Sun, 5 Jun 2005 17:12:33 -0400Subject

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2005-06-05 Thread Kevin Deegan
MYTH[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You give him an endless source of matrerial.    Jd  -Original Message-From: Kevin Deegan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Sat, 4 Jun 2005 18:33:14 -0700 (PDT)Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Exerpts Are you stuck in a RUT man?   Ever

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2005-06-05 Thread Kevin Deegan
Sort of like when JD argued that "ALL" which became "most" and finally "some" when confronted with his own statement. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  In your first post on this subject, you did not say that at all,  Mrs.  Taylor.   Not even close.  But your side does not care what it has written  --

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2005-06-05 Thread Kevin Deegan
hTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Sun, 5 Jun 2005 17:12:33 -0400Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Exerpts Let me repeat; in my original post on this subject Mr. Smithson I said that neither Lance nor Gary were sufficiently rooted and grounded in God's Word to correctly discern a genuine spiritual gift in o

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2005-06-05 Thread Kevin Deegan
How does your spiritual gift discern between MYTH and Dualism?[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: note the word 'correctly', below--as noted, the notion is intrinsic to (her) dualism   e.g., didn't Lance's spiritual discernment recognize correctly JCs gifts through the Spirit to Pastor Smithson?   On Sun,

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2005-06-06 Thread Judy Taylor
This is not the original - this is me explaining the original.  You'll have to do better than this... jt   On Sun, 05 Jun 2005 22:04:55 -0400 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:   Here is your original post, Mrs Taylor.   I am the one who spoke of rooting and grounding -- not you.  but you

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2005-06-06 Thread Lance Muir
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: June 05, 2005 21:34 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Exerpts note the word 'correctly', below--as noted, the notion is intrinsic to (her) dualism   e.g., didn't Lance's spiritual discernment recognize correctly JCs gifts thr

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2005-06-06 Thread Judy Taylor
a good week, are we?  JD   -Original Message-From: Judy Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgCc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Sun, 5 Jun 2005 17:12:33 -0400Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Exerpts Let me repeat; in my original po

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2005-06-06 Thread knpraise
  JD -Original Message-From: Judy Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgCc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Mon, 6 Jun 2005 03:49:21 -0400Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Exerpts This is not the original - this is me explaining the original.  You'll have to do

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2005-06-06 Thread knpraise
gt;To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgCc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Mon, 6 Jun 2005 04:53:08 -0400Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Exerpts Wait a minute - I wrote both paragraphs in green below and now it appears to me that JD is attributing the first one to himself - saying he is the "one"; do w

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2005-06-06 Thread Judy Taylor
JD the progression was as follows (see below) - as usual (for some of you) every road leads to the failure and false gifting of DM so the discussion progressed from worship to spiritual discernment and who is qualified to discern. Here you have been using part of the thread 'out of context' t

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2005-06-06 Thread Judy Taylor
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgCc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Sun, 5 Jun 2005 17:12:33 -0400Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Exerpts Let me repeat; in my original post on this subject Mr. Smithson I said that neither Lance nor

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2005-06-06 Thread Kevin Deegan
n the archives.  This is what I said.  jt   Not having a good week, are we?  JD   -Original Message-From: Judy Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgCc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Sun, 5 Jun 2005 17:12:33 -0400Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Exerpts Let me repeat

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2005-06-06 Thread Kevin Deegan
good week, are we?  JD   -Original Message-From: Judy Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgCc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Sun, 5 Jun 2005 17:12:33 -0400Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Exerpts Let me repeat; in my original post on this subject Mr. Smithson I said

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2005-06-06 Thread ShieldsFamily
no one else has these squabbles except for you?  Does this tell you anything??? Izzy From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Monday, June 06, 2005 6:56 AMTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: Re: [TruthTalk] Exerpts Wrong again.  The

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2005-06-06 Thread Charles Perry Locke
Actually, Izzy, it was not that long ago that Dave and I were having just such a squabble. Perry From: "ShieldsFamily" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org To: Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Exerpts Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2005 11:30:56 -0500 JD why is it that

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2005-06-06 Thread ShieldsFamily
Oh, yeah. One for you. Dozens for JD. Izzy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Charles Perry Locke Sent: Monday, June 06, 2005 10:40 AM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Exerpts Actually, Izzy, it was not that long ago

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2005-06-06 Thread knpraise
thank you.   Jd  -Original Message-From: Charles Perry Locke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Mon, 06 Jun 2005 09:40:26 -0700Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Exerpts Actually, Izzy, it was not that long ago that Dave and I were having just such a squabble.  Perry 

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2005-06-06 Thread Kevin Deegan
[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Monday, June 06, 2005 6:56 AMTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: Re: [TruthTalk] Exerpts Wrong again.  The words, below, are your original post, Judy.   The post preeceding this one has me talking about something else and you dragging Lance and Gary's names into the subject.   I ques

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2005-06-06 Thread Kevin Deegan
Monday, June 06, 2005 10:40 AMTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: RE: [TruthTalk] ExerptsActually, Izzy, it was not that long ago that Dave and I were having justsuch a squabble..Perry>From: "ShieldsFamily" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>Reply-To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org>To: &g