Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-27 Thread ttxpress
ftr, partic DaveH--* = an influential phrase (to me) from the title of a Warren Zevon song, the best rendition of it iv'e heard by the Pixies with Zevon's son Jordan after Warren's relatively recent death--on the Zevon post-mortem CD 'Enjoy Every Sandwich' (indeed:)       On Mon, 27 Mar 2006

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-27 Thread ttxpress
    On Mon, 27 Mar 2006 19:41:19 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ..& it ain't that pretty at all   On Mon, 27 Mar 2006 19:17:57 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:   ||   "but Am. conservative Muslim theory ain't really their fault: ..    

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-27 Thread ttxpress
    On Mon, 27 Mar 2006 19:17:57 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:   ..perhaps while yer curled up fondling myow myow..   ..re-consider your role in repentance, even some rock stars aren't adverse to it, e.g.,   "_sitting_ under my blue sky of deceptionthe colors run

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-27 Thread ttxpress
..& it ain't that pretty at all   On Mon, 27 Mar 2006 19:17:57 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:   ||   "but Am. conservative Muslim theory ain't really their fault: 'either get our new WalMarts opened on time in Baghdad or face us blowin' you to (the other) hell (we're f

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-27 Thread ttxpress
  interesting --perhaps while yer curled up fondling myow myow, try to juxtapose your inadvertant underlying insight to the real point:   "but Am. conservative Muslim theory ain't really their fault: 'either get our new WalMarts opened on time in Baghdad or face us blowin' you to (the othe

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-26 Thread Kevin Deegan
IL PROTECTED]> Scary to the max.   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2006 6:14 AMTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org; TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creati

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-26 Thread Kevin Deegan
y" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Scary to the max.   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2006 6:14 AMTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org; TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: W

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-26 Thread knpraise
y to the max.   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2006 6:14 AMTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org; TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism   Of course.  But that is not really the issue.

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-26 Thread Kevin Deegan
ally meaningless.   From: "ShieldsFamily" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Scary to the max.   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2006 6:14 AMTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org; TruthTalk@mai

RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-26 Thread ShieldsFamily
Pretty close! J   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Deegan Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2006 10:15 PM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism   Izzy   PS She was driving a nicer car than I

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-25 Thread Kevin Deegan
OTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2006 6:14 AMTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org; TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism  Of course.  But that is not really the issue.  -- Original message -- From: &

RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-25 Thread Kevin Deegan
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin DeeganSent: Saturday, March 25, 2006 11:06 AMTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism   0[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here's an idea  -- maybe the church could actually do its job

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-25 Thread Kevin Deegan
hieldsFamily" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Scary to the max.   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2006 6:14 AMTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org; TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: RE: [TruthTalk]

RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-25 Thread ShieldsFamily
: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism   0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here's an idea  -- maybe the church could actually do its job !! You know, instead of paying the local school district to do it.    jd   -- Ori

RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-25 Thread ShieldsFamily
Those who really know it are thankful enough to SERVE Him joyfully. iz   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2006 11:37 AM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-25 Thread knpraise
ent: Saturday, March 25, 2006 6:14 AMTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org; TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism   Of course.  But that is not really the issue.   -- Original message -- From: "ShieldsFamily" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-25 Thread Kevin Deegan
aturday, March 25, 2006 6:14 AMTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org; TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism  Of course.  But that is not really the issue.  -- Original message -- From: "ShieldsFamily" <[EMAIL PROTEC

RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-25 Thread Kevin Deegan
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2006 11:07 AMTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism  myth [the writer's a blamer with an evident feminist' bias, but Am. conservative Muslim theory ain'

RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-25 Thread ShieldsFamily
pipe and puff on it.  Izzy  PS She was driving a nicer car than I have; but then so does everyone. “-)   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2006 11:07 AM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fw

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-25 Thread knpraise
AIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2006 6:14 AMTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org; TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism   Of course.  But that is not really the issue.   -- Original message -- From: "

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-25 Thread knpraise
IL PROTECTED]> Scary to the max.   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2006 6:14 AMTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org; TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism   Of course.  Bu

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-25 Thread knpraise
y meaningless.   From: "ShieldsFamily" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Scary to the max.   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2006 6:14 AMTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org; TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: RE: [TruthTa

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-25 Thread Kevin Deegan
[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2006 6:14 AMTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org; TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism  Of course.  But that is not really the issue.  -- Original message -- From: "ShieldsFamil

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-25 Thread ttxpress
..knew God's grace We wouldn’t be HAVING a problem with Muslims if we..

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-25 Thread Kevin Deegan
arch 25, 2006 07:58 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on CreationismIf there are christian teachers in the system (and there are) who must teach theories of evolution that they do not believe.  What's wrong with teaching the other side also even if there are unbelievers teachi

RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-25 Thread Kevin Deegan
Solution: teach false theories.    From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2006 6:33 AMTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org; TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism  What'

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-25 Thread ttxpress
myth [the writer's a blamer with an evident feminist' bias, but Am. conservative Muslim theory ain't really their fault: 'either get our new WalMarts opened on time in Baghdad or face us blowin' you to (the other) hell (we're financing')]   || We wouldn’t be HAVING a

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-25 Thread Judy Taylor
Scary to the max.   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2006 6:14 AMTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org; TruthT

RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-25 Thread Kevin Deegan
to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance Muir > Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2006 6:23 AM > To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org > Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism > > Sikhs are permitted to wear 'sacred' daggers to school. The RCMP > allow > turbans ove

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-25 Thread Kevin Deegan
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: March 25, 2006 07:15 > Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism > > > > So, in a public school you prefer that untruth be taught long-term. > > Hmm > > > > -Original Message- >

RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-25 Thread Kevin Deegan
why some of us aren't following your logic? iz > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance Muir > Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2006 5:28 AM > To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org > Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Willi

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-25 Thread Kevin Deegan
Wasn't there a movie about your dodgeball team? --- Lance Muir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > IZ:No, I would not. > > > - Original Message - > From: "ShieldsFamily" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: March 25, 2006 06:14 > S

RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-25 Thread Kevin Deegan
4:54 PM > To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org > Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism > > It ain't true. It's a hyperbolic hypothetical, Iz. > > . > - Original Message - > From: "ShieldsFamily" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > S

RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-25 Thread knpraise
s? iz   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2006 7:08 AMTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org; TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism   Here's an idea  -- maybe the church coul

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-25 Thread Judy Taylor
TED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2006 6:14 AMTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org; TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism   O

RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-25 Thread ShieldsFamily
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org; TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism   Here's an idea  -- maybe the church could actually do its job !! You know, instead of paying the local school district to do it.   

RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-25 Thread ShieldsFamily
Jesus used the word often.   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance Muir Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2006 7:05 AM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism   The 'if road' can be walk

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-25 Thread knpraise
nnglory.org; TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism   Of course.  But that is not really the issue.   -- Original message -- From: "ShieldsFamily" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> So IYO it is better to have “secular” folk teachin

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-25 Thread Judy Taylor
Solution: teach false theories.    From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2006 6:33 AMTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org; TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: RE: [Tr

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-25 Thread Lance Muir
You, Judy, could teach researching. However, you could not teach 'conclusions'! - Original Message - From: Judy Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: March 25, 2006 07:58 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism If there are

RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-25 Thread knpraise
    From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2006 6:33 AMTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org; TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism   What's scary is that you think the solution is to hav

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-25 Thread knpraise
e - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org ; TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: March 25, 2006 07:32 Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism What's scary is that you think the solution is to have an antagonistic educator "teach" what he does not believ

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-25 Thread Judy Taylor
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2006 6:14 AMTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org; TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism   Of cours

RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-25 Thread ShieldsFamily
; TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism   Linda  -- politically,  I am a rightwinger  --  but who went to war for what reason?  And, did you miss Lnace's good point?   What kind of fit will you pitch when the Muslim population wins a court fig

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-25 Thread Judy Taylor
ion: teach false theories.    From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2006 6:33 AMTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org; TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism  

RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-25 Thread knpraise
e Muir > Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2006 6:23 AM > To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org > Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism > > Sikhs are permitted to wear 'sacred' daggers to school. The RCMP allow > turbans over traditional head gear.The Muslim creatio

RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-25 Thread ShieldsFamily
And forbid other theories that are “politically incorrect.”   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ShieldsFamily Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2006 6:36 AM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism   Solution

RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-25 Thread ShieldsFamily
Solution: teach false theories.    From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2006 6:33 AM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org; TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-25 Thread Lance Muir
How long Oh David, how long? - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org ; TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: March 25, 2006 07:32 Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism What's scary is that you think the sol

RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-25 Thread knpraise
-- From: "ShieldsFamily" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Scary to the max.   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2006 6:14 AMTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org; TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: RE: [TruthTa

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-25 Thread Lance Muir
I'd never suggest that you 'live in fear' nor do I believe that you would. Just BE REAL, (wo)man! - Original Message - From: "ShieldsFamily" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: March 25, 2006 07:25 Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-25 Thread Lance Muir
5, 2006 07:14 Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism Of course.  But that is not really the issue.   -- Original message -- From: "ShieldsFamily" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> So IYO it is better

RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-25 Thread ShieldsFamily
ught you become . - Original Message - From: "ShieldsFamily" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: March 25, 2006 07:15 Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism > So, in a public school you prefer that untruth be taught long-term. > Hmm > > -Ori

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-25 Thread Lance Muir
riginal Message - From: "ShieldsFamily" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: March 25, 2006 07:15 Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism So, in a public school you prefer that untruth be taught long-term. Hmm -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROT

RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-25 Thread ShieldsFamily
Scary to the max.   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2006 6:14 AM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org; TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism   Of course.  But

RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-25 Thread ShieldsFamily
on Creationism In a public school. Think 'long term', Iz. - Original Message - From: "ShieldsFamily" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: March 25, 2006 06:37 Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism > So, here we are, back to the fact that IF

RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-25 Thread knpraise
[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2006 5:46 AMTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org; TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism   It's not what is taught (for me and in this case) so much as it is WHO TEACHES THEM.    You w

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-25 Thread Lance Muir
In a public school. Think 'long term', Iz. - Original Message - From: "ShieldsFamily" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: March 25, 2006 06:37 Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism So, here we are, back to the fact that IF you believed something

RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-25 Thread ShieldsFamily
Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism   It's not what is taught (for me and in this case) so much as it is WHO TEACHES THEM.    You want the secular world to be responsible   --   I don't.    jd   -- Original message --

RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-25 Thread knpraise
e Muir > Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2006 5:28 AM > To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org > Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism > > IZ:No, I would not. > > > - Original Message - > From: "ShieldsFamily" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> To: > Sent

RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-25 Thread ShieldsFamily
Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2006 5:28 AM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism IZ:No, I would not. - Original Message - From: "ShieldsFamily" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: March 25, 2006 06:14 Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Wi

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-25 Thread Lance Muir
IZ:No, I would not. - Original Message - From: "ShieldsFamily" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: March 25, 2006 06:14 Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism Dodging the question, as usual. iz -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:

RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-25 Thread ShieldsFamily
Dodging the question, as usual. iz -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance Muir Sent: Friday, March 24, 2006 4:54 PM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism It ain't true. It's a

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-24 Thread Lance Muir
It ain't true. It's a hyperbolic hypothetical, Iz. . - Original Message - From: "ShieldsFamily" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: March 24, 2006 17:16 Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism That wasn't the question; I asked whether IF you

RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-24 Thread knpraise
public education system.  Until him the Bible was the basic textbook.  izzy   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David MillerSent: Friday, March 24, 2006 9:56 AMTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism   The history of pu

RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-24 Thread ShieldsFamily
: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism   The history of public education is a little more complicated than this.  I think the more forceful argument was making education available to those who were not wealthy.  The non-sectarian nature of it came in

RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-24 Thread ShieldsFamily
24, 2006 16:36 Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism   Fortunately we comprehend the truth since we believe God’s Word.   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance Muir Sent: Friday, March 24, 2006 3:30 AM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.

RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-24 Thread ShieldsFamily
hTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism David you are like so right, man! familiaritycontempt...were those the words? Probably got it comin'. Actually Lady Iz, I prefer that untruth NOT be taught in schools (i.e. creationism) - Original Message -

RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-24 Thread knpraise
; From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance Muir > Sent: Friday, March 24, 2006 3:25 AM > To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org > Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism > > Still no. > > > - Original Message - > From: "Shi

RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-24 Thread knpraise
teach anything a school aged child might need to learn I think. izzy   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2006 11:04 PMTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org; TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-24 Thread knpraise
et to spend with him. izzy   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2006 11:01 PMTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org; TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism   What do I believe about Genesis

RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-24 Thread ShieldsFamily
PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 24, 2006 8:13 AM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org; TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism   Public education was first offered as an alternaive to Christian education.    jd   -- Original message

RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-24 Thread ShieldsFamily
And you accused Kevin of making smart-assed replies???   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance Muir Sent: Friday, March 24, 2006 7:51 AM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism   Who wouldn'

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2006-03-24 Thread knpraise
L PROTECTED]> You didn’t answer the question.   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2006 10:41 PMTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org; TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism   Lin

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2006-03-24 Thread ShieldsFamily
Depending, certainly, upon who stated it.  iz   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance Muir Sent: Friday, March 24, 2006 6:43 AM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism   Less is more

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2006-03-24 Thread Lance Muir
ms on Creationism Fortunately we comprehend the truth since we believe God’s Word.   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance MuirSent: Friday, March 24, 2006 3:30 AMTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Willia

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2006-03-24 Thread Lance Muir
nt: March 24, 2006 16:35 Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism So you prefer that untruth be taught in schools. That's all that's left. Pathetic IMO. izzy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance Muir Sent: Fr

RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-24 Thread ShieldsFamily
And demonic beings encouraging one another in their strategies.   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance Muir Sent: Friday, March 24, 2006 3:27 AM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism   A book

RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-24 Thread ShieldsFamily
Fortunately we comprehend the truth since we believe God’s Word.   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance Muir Sent: Friday, March 24, 2006 3:30 AM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism   You may

RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-24 Thread ShieldsFamily
thTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism Still no. - Original Message - From: "ShieldsFamily" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: March 23, 2006 23:04 Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism > If you thought it was true would you want it taught in schools, Lance?

RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-24 Thread ShieldsFamily
Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2006 11:04 PM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org; TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism   Are  you the teacher?   -- Original message -- From: "ShieldsF

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2006-03-24 Thread ShieldsFamily
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2006 11:01 PM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org; TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism   What do I believe about Genesis?   Did you read any of my

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2006-03-24 Thread Lance Muir
Speaking for myself, I do not think creation(ism) should be taught in schools.   - Original Message - From: ShieldsFamily To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: March 24, 2006 16:14 Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism You didn’t answer the

RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-24 Thread ShieldsFamily
You didn’t answer the question.   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2006 10:41 PM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org; TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

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2006-03-24 Thread Lance Muir
Thanks for the footnote confirming John's point. - Original Message - From: David Miller To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: March 24, 2006 10:55 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism The history of public education is a little

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2006-03-24 Thread David Miller
; TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Friday, March 24, 2006 9:12 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism Public education was first offered as an alternaive to Christian education.    jd   -- Original message -- From: "Lance

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2006-03-24 Thread knpraise
Dog-gone it all.   Why do you say such things??!!   Past collegues?  You mean those guys you knew 18 years ago before you became a software programer?? Your teachers back in the college days of your youth?    jd     By the way, every past colleague of mine that I have argued this point, about cre

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-24 Thread knpraise
Original Message - From: David Miller To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: March 24, 2006 08:33 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism She should not teach them that the universe IS geocentric, but she should teach them the geocentric model, evidence for and against it, and

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2006-03-24 Thread Lance Muir
No, it is not 'strange'. In most cases 'creation science' reflects neither. - Original Message - From: David Miller To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: March 24, 2006 08:33 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism She s

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2006-03-24 Thread Lance Muir
7;  Now, why don't you take this on the road? - Original Message - From: David Miller To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: March 24, 2006 08:36 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism Correct, and some of this activity proposes empirical p

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2006-03-24 Thread knpraise
  -- Original message -- From: "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I'm humbled at your objectivity, Kevin. - Original Message - From: Kevin Deegan To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: March 23, 2006 23:36 Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Fw:

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2006-03-24 Thread David Miller
ks to test this prediction?   David Miller - Original Message - From: Lance Muir To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Friday, March 24, 2006 4:44 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism Interpretation/interpolation/speculation re:Genesis leads o

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2006-03-24 Thread David Miller
ation science being dealt with in the same way?   David Miller - Original Message - From: Lance Muir To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Friday, March 24, 2006 4:30 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism You may feel to teach them that the uni

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2006-03-24 Thread Lance Muir
ill unscientific. Go figure. David Miller - Original Message - From: "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, March 24, 2006 3:58 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism Just how wide do you wish the door open, scientifically speaking? This is

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-24 Thread David Miller
- Original Message - From: "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, March 24, 2006 3:58 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism Just how wide do you wish the door open, scientifically speaking? This issue is akin to the 'prayer in school&#x

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2006-03-24 Thread Lance Muir
Less is more. - Original Message - From: Kevin Deegan To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: March 24, 2006 07:36 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism When was the last time on TT you posted more than two sentences? When was at least one

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-24 Thread Kevin Deegan
Kevin Deegan To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: March 24, 2006 07:06 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism But you are inclined to making baseless assertions.Lance Muir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Oh but I do, Kevin. However, I'm not inclined toward 'darkenin

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-24 Thread Lance Muir
Oh ya? (see how content-filled that is?) - Original Message - From: Kevin Deegan To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: March 24, 2006 07:06 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism But you are inclined to making baseless assertions.Lance Muir

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2006-03-24 Thread Kevin Deegan
t: March 24, 2006 06:29 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism If you do not KNOW what it is how can you make a value judgement on it?Lance Muir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Whatever 'YOUR JOB' is Kevin, y'all ain't bin doin' it all that well

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2006-03-24 Thread Lance Muir
Thanks in part to you, I've got some of the facts before me. - Original Message - From: Kevin Deegan To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: March 24, 2006 06:27 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism Facts stand the test better than Fee

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