Binding endpoints (was Fwd: Services and WSDL files

2007-07-26 Thread ant elder
This is becoming one of the most often asked about and (i think) one of the most confusing parts of using Tuscany, so how about we try to fix things up a bit? One problem is its just really hard to see where servlets get registered. These days I often run with a local mod to servlet host that jus

Re: Binding endpoints (was Fwd: Services and WSDL files

2007-07-26 Thread Jean-Sebastien Delfino
[snip] ant elder wrote: On 7/26/07, Simon Laws <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 7/26/07, ant elder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > This is becoming one of the most often asked about and (i think) one of > the > most confusing parts of using Tuscany, so how about we try to fix things > up > a bi

Re: Binding endpoints (was Fwd: Services and WSDL files

2007-07-26 Thread Simon Laws
Ant, you beat me too it;-) Having spent time yesterday trying to figure out how URLs are handled with the web app host I feel the pain. Some comments inline Simon On 7/26/07, ant elder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: This is becoming one of the most often asked about and (i think) one of the most c

Re: Binding endpoints (was Fwd: Services and WSDL files

2007-07-26 Thread ant elder
On 7/26/07, Simon Laws <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Ant, you beat me too it;-) Having spent time yesterday trying to figure out how URLs are handled with the web app host I feel the pain. Some comments inline Simon On 7/26/07, ant elder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > This is becoming one of the

Re: Binding endpoints (was Fwd: Services and WSDL files

2007-07-27 Thread ant elder
On 7/26/07, Jean-Sebastien Delfino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > [snip] > ant elder wrote: > > On 7/26/07, Simon Laws <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > >> On 7/26/07, ant elder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > > >> > This is becoming one of the most often asked about and (i think) > >> one of > >

Re: Binding endpoints (was Fwd: Services and WSDL files

2007-07-27 Thread Jean-Sebastien Delfino
[snip] ant elder wrote: I think that these URIs should be determined as part of the process of combining wires and uris specified at different levels in the SCA assembly. If the correct URIs are determined once as part of this process, a binding provider should be able to just call binding.getURI

Re: Binding endpoints (was Fwd: Services and WSDL files

2007-07-27 Thread Simon Laws
On 7/28/07, Jean-Sebastien Delfino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > [snip] > ant elder wrote: > >> I think that these URIs should be determined as part of the process of > >> combining wires and uris specified at different levels in the SCA > >> assembly. If the correct URIs are determined once as pa

Re: Binding endpoints (was Fwd: Services and WSDL files

2007-07-27 Thread Simon Laws
On 7/28/07, Simon Laws <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > On 7/28/07, Jean-Sebastien Delfino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > [snip] > > ant elder wrote: > > >> I think that these URIs should be determined as part of the process > > of > > >> combining wires and uris specified at different levels

Re: Binding endpoints (was Fwd: Services and WSDL files

2007-07-29 Thread Venkata Krishnan
Hi, Is the definitions.xml (sec 1.8, line 2490 of Assembly spec) a good place to define the domain uri for various schemes for an SCA Domain. - Venkat On 7/28/07, Simon Laws <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 7/28/07, Simon Laws <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > On 7/28/07, Jean-Sebastie

Re: Binding endpoints (was Fwd: Services and WSDL files

2007-07-30 Thread ant elder
Thats pretty interesting. Though there's so little detail about definitions.xml I find it hard to work out what its for, could any spec people give a be more detail about this? One thing it talks about is using bindingType and implementationType elements to add new extensions, should we really be

Re: Binding endpoints (was Fwd: Services and WSDL files

2007-07-30 Thread Venkata Krishnan
Hi Ant, Working with the policy framework, the definitions.xml is the file that lists all the intents and policysets that are applicable for an SCA Domain. The Policy Fwk specs talks quite a bit about the contents of this file - such as things like the BindingType, ImplementationType etc. As for

Re: Binding endpoints (was Fwd: Services and WSDL files

2007-07-30 Thread Jean-Sebastien Delfino
[snip] Simon Laws wrote: If we're talking about a domain URI, this is typically model information that can be hosted in a Top level Composite or Domain Composite or Domain model object, whatever we want to call it. If I understand the spec correctly, the cardinality is: 1 Domain -> 1 base URI p

Re: Binding endpoints (was Fwd: Services and WSDL files

2007-07-31 Thread ant elder
On 7/26/07, ant elder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Another problem is the runtime base uri is changing for our different > environments, for example the standalone Jetty runtime has an empty base > uri, where as the sample webapp ones have things like /services/ or other > samples /SCA/. That is u

Terminology (was: Binding endpoints (was Fwd: Services and WSDL files)

2007-07-27 Thread Simon Laws
I've started a page on the wiki (which everyone in the community can edit) to capture any terminology that we use for future inclusion in the documentation. The assorted SCA specifications define plenty of terminology and I'm not proposing that that is repeated here. It would be useful, however, to

Re: Terminology (was: Binding endpoints (was Fwd: Services and WSDL files)

2007-07-28 Thread Adriano Crestani
Great idea Simon, sometimes I get lost with some terminologies : (, this will help a lot : ) Adriano Crestani On 7/28/07, Simon Laws <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I've started a page on the wiki (which everyone in the community can edit) > to capture any terminology that we use for future inclus

Re: Terminology (was: Binding endpoints (was Fwd: Services and WSDL files)

2007-07-28 Thread Simon Laws
On 7/28/07, Adriano Crestani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Great idea Simon, sometimes I get lost with some terminologies : (, this > will help a lot : ) > > Adriano Crestani > > On 7/28/07, Simon Laws <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > I've started a page on the wiki (which everyone in the commun

Re: Terminology (was: Binding endpoints (was Fwd: Services and WSDL files)

2007-07-28 Thread Adriano Crestani
Thanks Simon. I just think the terms should be alphabetically listed ; ). And they could be tagged with the subproject they are related to, when it's possible. Regards, Adriano Crestani On 7/28/07, Simon Laws <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 7/28/07, Adriano Crestani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Re: Terminology (was: Binding endpoints (was Fwd: Services and WSDL files)

2007-07-28 Thread Simon Laws
On 7/28/07, Adriano Crestani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Thanks Simon. > > I just think the terms should be alphabetically listed ; ). And they could > be tagged with the subproject they are related to, when it's possible. > > Regards, > Adriano Crestani > > On 7/28/07, Simon Laws <[EMAIL PROTEC

Re: Terminology (was: Binding endpoints (was Fwd: Services and WSDL files)

2007-07-28 Thread Adriano Crestani
I haven't anything in mind right now. But as soon as I have I will add it on the terminologies page ; ) Adriano Crestani On 7/28/07, Simon Laws <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 7/28/07, Adriano Crestani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Thanks Simon. > > > > I just think the terms should be alp

Re: Terminology (was: Binding endpoints (was Fwd: Services and WSDL files)

2007-07-28 Thread Adriano Crestani
I edited the page as I suggested. If you don't agree with this new layout, I can roll back the changes :) I've added a DAS terminology. I expect I've done it correctly :D Regards, Adriano Crestani On 7/28/07, Adriano Crestani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I haven't anything in mind right now. B

Re: Terminology (was: Binding endpoints (was Fwd: Services and WSDL files)

2007-07-30 Thread haleh mahbod
I added a table/index at the top to make the file easy to read and put things in alphabetic order. On 7/28/07, Adriano Crestani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I edited the page as I suggested. If you don't agree with this new layout, > I > can roll back the changes :) > > I've added a DAS termino

Re: Terminology (was: Binding endpoints (was Fwd: Services and WSDL files)

2007-07-30 Thread Adriano Crestani
Thanks haleh, I forgot to sort the topics alphabeticaly ;) Adriano Crestani On 7/31/07, haleh mahbod <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I added a table/index at the top to make the file easy to read and put > things in alphabetic order. > > > On 7/28/07, Adriano Crestani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >

Rules for determining binding endpoint URIs, was: Binding endpoints (was Fwd: Services and WSDL files

2007-07-31 Thread Jean-Sebastien Delfino
Jean-Sebastien Delfino wrote: [snip] Another problem is all our bindings work differently. So , < > binding.rmi/> etc all result in a > service > being available at a different endpoint. Also the uri attribute on those > > bindings all work differently so uri="foo" for some bindings would

Embedded servers now correctly support multiple ports, was: Binding endpoints (was Fwd: Services and WSDL files

2007-07-31 Thread Jean-Sebastien Delfino
[snip] Jean-Sebastien Delfino wrote: All those sound good, and just to add one more, i think there's a bug (unless its been fixed recently) in the standalone jetty/tomcat runtimes so that the port in a endpoint url is used but only for the first endpoint. So if you have two binding uri's ht

Re: Rules for determining binding endpoint URIs, was: Binding endpoints (was Fwd: Services and WSDL files

2007-07-31 Thread Jean-Sebastien Delfino
Jean-Sebastien Delfino wrote: Jean-Sebastien Delfino wrote: [snip] Another problem is all our bindings work differently. So , < > binding.rmi/> etc all result in a > service > being available at a different endpoint. Also the uri attribute on those > > bindings all work differently so uri

Re: Rules for determining binding endpoint URIs, was: Binding endpoints (was Fwd: Services and WSDL files

2007-07-31 Thread Raymond Feng
. Thanks, Raymond - Original Message - From: "Jean-Sebastien Delfino" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2007 5:12 PM Subject: Re: Rules for determining binding endpoint URIs, was: Binding endpoints (was Fwd: Services and WSDL files Jean-Sebastien Delf

Re: Rules for determining binding endpoint URIs, was: Binding endpoints (was Fwd: Services and WSDL files

2007-07-31 Thread Jean-Sebastien Delfino
PM Subject: Re: Rules for determining binding endpoint URIs, was: Binding endpoints (was Fwd: Services and WSDL files Jean-Sebastien Delfino wrote: Jean-Sebastien Delfino wrote: [snip] Another problem is all our bindings work differently. So , < > binding.rmi/> etc all result in

Re: Rules for determining binding endpoint URIs, was: Binding endpoints (was Fwd: Services and WSDL files

2007-07-31 Thread Raymond Feng
. Thanks, Raymond - Original Message - From: "Jean-Sebastien Delfino" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2007 12:43 PM Subject: Rules for determining binding endpoint URIs, was: Binding endpoints (was Fwd: Services and WSDL files Jean-Sebastien Delfi

Re: Rules for determining binding endpoint URIs, was: Binding endpoints (was Fwd: Services and WSDL files

2007-07-31 Thread Raymond Feng
) Thanks, Raymond - Original Message - From: "Jean-Sebastien Delfino" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2007 5:54 PM Subject: Re: Rules for determining binding endpoint URIs, was: Binding endpoints (was Fwd: Services and WSDL files Comments inline. Ra

Re: Rules for determining binding endpoint URIs, was: Binding endpoints (was Fwd: Services and WSDL files

2007-07-31 Thread Jean-Sebastien Delfino
iginal Message - From: "Jean-Sebastien Delfino" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2007 5:54 PM Subject: Re: Rules for determining binding endpoint URIs, was: Binding endpoints (was Fwd: Services and WSDL files Comments inline. Raymond Feng wrote: Hi, My

Re: Rules for determining binding endpoint URIs, was: Binding endpoints (was Fwd: Services and WSDL files

2007-08-01 Thread ant elder
On 8/1/07, Jean-Sebastien Delfino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Jean-Sebastien Delfino wrote: > > Jean-Sebastien Delfino wrote: > >> [snip] > >> > Another problem is all our bindings work differently. So > , < > > binding.rmi/> etc all result in a > > service > > being a

Re: Rules for determining binding endpoint URIs, was: Binding endpoints (was Fwd: Services and WSDL files

2007-08-01 Thread Simon Nash
See inline. Simon Jean-Sebastien Delfino wrote: Jean-Sebastien Delfino wrote: Jean-Sebastien Delfino wrote: [snip] Another problem is all our bindings work differently. So , < > binding.rmi/> etc all result in a > service > being available at a different endpoint. Also the uri attri

Re: Rules for determining binding endpoint URIs, was: Binding endpoints (was Fwd: Services and WSDL files

2007-08-03 Thread Jean-Sebastien Delfino
Simon Nash wrote: I think we need this or something like it to generate URIs for callback endpoints. The Web Service binding support for callbacks is currently doing this. I'm not happy with forcing the user to specify an explicit URI for an endpoint that is generated by the runtime. Simon

Re: Rules for determining binding endpoint URIs, was: Binding endpoints (was Fwd: Services and WSDL files

2007-08-03 Thread Jean-Sebastien Delfino
ant elder wrote: On 8/1/07, Jean-Sebastien Delfino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Jean-Sebastien Delfino wrote: Jean-Sebastien Delfino wrote: [snip] Another problem is all our bindings work differently. So , < binding.rmi/> etc all result in a service bein

Re: Rules for determining binding endpoint URIs, was: Binding endpoints (was Fwd: Services and WSDL files

2007-08-06 Thread Simon Laws
On 8/3/07, Jean-Sebastien Delfino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > ant elder wrote: > > On 8/1/07, Jean-Sebastien Delfino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >> Jean-Sebastien Delfino wrote: > >> > >>> Jean-Sebastien Delfino wrote: > >>> > [snip] > > > >> Another problem is all our bi

Re: Rules for determining binding endpoint URIs, was: Binding endpoints (was Fwd: Services and WSDL files

2007-08-06 Thread Jean-Sebastien Delfino
Simon Laws wrote: On 8/3/07, Jean-Sebastien Delfino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: ant elder wrote: On 8/1/07, Jean-Sebastien Delfino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Jean-Sebastien Delfino wrote: Jean-Sebastien Delfino wrote: [snip] Another proble

Re: Rules for determining binding endpoint URIs, was: Binding endpoints (was Fwd: Services and WSDL files

2007-08-06 Thread Simon Laws
On 8/6/07, Jean-Sebastien Delfino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Simon Laws wrote: > > On 8/3/07, Jean-Sebastien Delfino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >> ant elder wrote: > >> > >>> On 8/1/07, Jean-Sebastien Delfino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>> > >>> > Jean-Sebastien Delfino wrote: > >>

Re: Rules for determining binding endpoint URIs, was: Binding endpoints (was Fwd: Services and WSDL files

2007-08-13 Thread Simon Laws
On 8/6/07, Simon Laws <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > On 8/6/07, Jean-Sebastien Delfino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Simon Laws wrote: > > > On 8/3/07, Jean-Sebastien Delfino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > >> ant elder wrote: > > >> > > >>> On 8/1/07, Jean-Sebastien Delfino < [EMAIL

Re: Rules for determining binding endpoint URIs, was: Binding endpoints (was Fwd: Services and WSDL files

2007-08-15 Thread Jean-Sebastien Delfino
Jean-Sebastien Delfino wrote: Jean-Sebastien Delfino wrote: [snip] Another problem is all our bindings work differently. So , < > binding.rmi/> etc all result in a > service > being available at a different endpoint. Also the uri attribute on those > > bindings all work differently so uri

Re: Rules for determining binding endpoint URIs, was: Binding endpoints (was Fwd: Services and WSDL files

2007-08-15 Thread ant elder
On 8/15/07, Jean-Sebastien Delfino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Jean-Sebastien Delfino wrote: > > Jean-Sebastien Delfino wrote: > >> [snip] > >> > Another problem is all our bindings work differently. So > , < > > binding.rmi/> etc all result in a > > service > > being

Re: Rules for determining binding endpoint URIs, was: Binding endpoints (was Fwd: Services and WSDL files

2007-08-15 Thread Jean-Sebastien Delfino
ant elder wrote: On 8/15/07, Jean-Sebastien Delfino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Jean-Sebastien Delfino wrote: Jean-Sebastien Delfino wrote: [snip] Another problem is all our bindings work differently. So , < binding.rmi/> etc all result in a service bei

Re: Rules for determining binding endpoint URIs, was: Binding endpoints (was Fwd: Services and WSDL files

2007-08-15 Thread ant elder
On 8/15/07, Jean-Sebastien Delfino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > ant elder wrote: > > On 8/15/07, Jean-Sebastien Delfino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >> Jean-Sebastien Delfino wrote: > >> > >>> Jean-Sebastien Delfino wrote: > >>> > [snip] > > > >> Another problem is all our

Re: Rules for determining binding endpoint URIs, was: Binding endpoints (was Fwd: Services and WSDL files

2007-08-15 Thread Simon Laws
On 8/15/07, Jean-Sebastien Delfino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > ant elder wrote: > > On 8/15/07, Jean-Sebastien Delfino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >> Jean-Sebastien Delfino wrote: > >> > >>> Jean-Sebastien Delfino wrote: > >>> > [snip] > > > >> Another problem is all our

Re: Rules for determining binding endpoint URIs, was: Binding endpoints (was Fwd: Services and WSDL files

2007-08-15 Thread ant elder
On 8/15/07, Simon Laws <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > On 8/15/07, ant elder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > On 8/15/07, Jean-Sebastien Delfino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > ant elder wrote: > > > > On 8/15/07, Jean-Sebastien Delfino < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > >> Jean-

Re: Rules for determining binding endpoint URIs, was: Binding endpoints (was Fwd: Services and WSDL files

2007-08-15 Thread Simon Laws
On 8/15/07, ant elder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 8/15/07, Simon Laws <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > On 8/15/07, ant elder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > On 8/15/07, Jean-Sebastien Delfino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > ant elder wrote: > > > > > On 8/15/07, Je

Re: Rules for determining binding endpoint URIs, was: Binding endpoints (was Fwd: Services and WSDL files

2007-08-15 Thread ant elder
On 8/15/07, Simon Laws <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 8/15/07, Jean-Sebastien Delfino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > ant elder wrote: > > > On 8/15/07, Jean-Sebastien Delfino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > >> Jean-Sebastien Delfino wrote: > > >> > > >>> Jean-Sebastien Delfino wrote: >

Re: Rules for determining binding endpoint URIs, was: Binding endpoints (was Fwd: Services and WSDL files

2007-08-15 Thread Simon Laws
On 8/15/07, ant elder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 8/15/07, Jean-Sebastien Delfino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > ant elder wrote: > > > On 8/15/07, Jean-Sebastien Delfino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > >> Jean-Sebastien Delfino wrote: > > >> > > >>> Jean-Sebastien Delfino wrote: > >

Re: Embedded servers now correctly support multiple ports, was: Binding endpoints (was Fwd: Services and WSDL files

2007-08-01 Thread Simon Nash
Sorry, I did not see this before doing the checkout and testing that led to my creating TUSCANY-1501. I have rerun my test against the latest trunk code and this is working now. I'll close TUSCANY-1501. Simon Jean-Sebastien Delfino wrote: [snip] Jean-Sebastien Delfino wrote: All those