On 11/15/2012 01:59 PM, Alexander Hahn wrote:
On 2012-11-15 12:41:05 +, Dmitry Dulepov said:
Alexander Hahn wrote:
I don't want to say 'a forum', because this alone won't help. It has to
be something else, something in the browser, something open, without
barriers to get started with.
Hi Tolleiv,
I started answering to your mail until I concluded that it deserves a
separate thread. I hope that is ok for you.
Greetings, Michael
Am 19.10.2012 09:54, schrieb Tolleiv Nietsch:
Hi,
so now is the time to start a poll for the new name of the newsgroup
right? Or would you decide
Am 20.10.2012 14:35, schrieb Katja Lampela:
20.10.2012 12:53, Georg Ringer kirjoitti:
just use the marketing material he got ... over out
A customer doesn't really care as he doesn't even know that there is a
new and an old logo.
This is so true. Without any sarcasm: customers don't usually
Hi,
On 22-10-2012 8:24, bernd wilke wrote:
Am 20.10.2012 14:35, schrieb Katja Lampela:
20.10.2012 12:53, Georg Ringer kirjoitti:
A customer doesn't really care as he doesn't even know that there is a
new and an old logo.
This is so true. Without any sarcasm: customers don't usually see
Thank you very much for your kind answer.
As a collaborator of a small company, I have integrated this change and
can follow your reflection except that, for many of our customers,
advertising with the old logo could be considered as a lack of
professionalism.
As a member of the TYPO3
Hi,
22.10.2012 9:24, bernd wilke kirjoitti:
Am 20.10.2012 14:35, schrieb Katja Lampela:
20.10.2012 12:53, Georg Ringer kirjoitti:
just use the marketing material he got ... over out
A customer doesn't really care as he doesn't even know that there is a
new and an old logo.
This is so true.
Hi Tolleiv,
Tolleiv Nietsch wrote:
But looking back into the constructive discussions we saw in the
recent year I doubt that another newsgroup will solve anything. Imho
typo3.english is a fine place to discuss stuff when everyone watches
their language and tries to respect the work of
Hi Andreas,
funny misspelling:
we wait also for the version 6 which will wok [...]
Yes, I hope it will work well in general and also Wok very well in
Asia ...
sorry, could not resist :-)
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Hello Tolleiv,
I'm sad you're not very constructive in your posts *in this
thread*. Please note that the thread is not a flame war and it's
not at all about blaming or complaining. It is about different
opinions and getting the green back. And it's not about every
little change. It is about far
[Martin Bless] wrote schrieb:
Hello Tolleiv,
I'm sad you're not very constructive in your posts *in this
thread*. Please note that the thread is not a flame war and it's
not at all about blaming or complaining. It is about different
opinions and getting the green back. And it's not about every
Hi Tolleiv,
((blushing for having sent that unfinished post)),
here now the real one:
Imho typo3.english is a fine place to discuss stuff when everyone watches
their language and tries to respect the work of others.
Alright, could be. The advantage of a dedicated typo3-about list
for meta
[Martin Bless] wrote schrieb:
Hello Tolleiv,
I'm sad you're not very constructive in your posts *in this
thread*. Please note that the thread is not a flame war and it's
not at all about blaming or complaining. It is about different
opinions and getting the green back. And it's not about every
Am 20.10.2012 11:36, schrieb Martin Bless:
Could somebody please give a serious and respectful answer to
Véronique?
just use the marketing material he got ... over out
A customer doesn't really care as he doesn't even know that there is a
new and an old logo.
Georg
Hi,
well, this post has hardly got any response from any of the Core (CMS
and Neos) team members for a good reason. The way you all responded to
Rasmus is exactly what's keeping the actually active people away from
these newsgroup discussions.
Why didn't you start the discussion in a polite
20.10.2012 12:53, Georg Ringer kirjoitti:
just use the marketing material he got ... over out
A customer doesn't really care as he doesn't even know that there is a new and
an old logo.
This is so true. Without any sarcasm: customers don't usually see TYPO3 (logo
or any other brand
Hi,
On 16-10-2012 15:21, Véronique Julmy wrote:
For our small company, the change of the TYPO3 logo is difficult to
accept. We have invested in sales promotional materials. Today, these
investments have been whipped out.
As was indicated in a few other posts, customers usually are not aware
Hi Tolleiv,
it's nice you took the time for a longer answer.
The way you all responded to Rasmus is exactly what's keeping
the actually active people away from these newsgroup discussions.
We all? Please don't generalize. I don't think I've written a
single word in this thread that was
Hi Jigal,
If I were you I wouldn't worry too much ...
thank you very much for you kind and detailed answer and advice.
That's a good post - I like it!
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Hi Tolleiv Nietsch,
Tolleiv Nietsch wrote:
I saw how the community reacted when the T3O stuff was brought to
preview last year - angry blogposts, useless blaming never asking for
reasons - all of that, but no additional contribution. And even the ones
that seemed to be constructive didn't
[Andreas Becker] wrote schrieb:
We decided that our Elephant will keep his nice colors and that we focus more
on ThaiPo3 ;-).
Thank you for sharing. I understand much better now.
BTW: If it's this site: thaipo3.com - it doesn't work and displays
an TYPO3 error at the moment.
Martin
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Hi,
so now is the time to start a poll for the new name of the newsgroup
right? Or would you decide that on your own?
Cheers,
Tolleiv
Michael Stucki schrieb:
Hi guys,
no need to vote on this, I guess we all agree that such a list would be
very helpful.
In fact, I was already asked last
Hi Tolleiv Nietsch,
Tolleiv Nietsch wrote:
so now is the time to start a poll for the new name of the newsgroup
right? Or would you decide that on your own?
typo3.about (as suggested) fits quite well, IMHO we do not need a pull
unless we have multiple suggestions.
What else would you
Philipp Gampe schrieb:
What else would you suggest?
typo3.meta
Sorry can't answer this one honest without breaking some of the
communication rules here ;)
But looking back into the constructive discussions we saw in the
recent year I doubt that another newsgroup will solve anything. Imho
Hi,
But looking back into the constructive discussions we saw in the
recent year I doubt that another newsgroup will solve anything. Imho
typo3.english is a fine place to discuss stuff when everyone watches
their language and tries to respect the work of others. Going into a
monthly flamewar
Yep
Martin it is not displaying. No problem as we focus with ThaiPo3 not only on
the webstuff - it is more a social and community stuff which takes currently
place mainly not on the web ;-)
But I hope the we will find time soon to change this again. actually we are
only waiting for the new
+1 to keep discussions on typo3-english
All constructive discussions with good and community based decisions started
and took place on typo3-english. This List is the best place for stuff like
this as all other places don't mobilize a community like here. An isolated list
will isolate actually
Hi guys,
no need to vote on this, I guess we all agree that such a list would be
very helpful.
In fact, I was already asked last week to create such a list. I didn't
create it right away because the current discussion had already started
here in typo3-english, and we felt it was important that
Andreas [Becker] wrote schrieb:
Hello Kindergarten how are you?
So what's your contribution? What's your opinion on the issue(s)?
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+1 for green.
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Check the Mailinglist back and you can read it. We decided that our Elephant
will keep his nice colors and that we focus more on ThaiPo3 ;-). In Cambodia
one developer posted on Facebook already nice image showing him in an orange
life west with very little green hanging more or less to his
+100 to this
get the green back!
Please use the orange (new) logo to identify the TYPO3 family but not
the TYPO3 itself.
thank you
Quoting Katja Lampela katja.lamp...@lieska.net:
+ 1 to this
With kind regards
Katja Lampela
*Lieska-tuotanto*
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16.10.2012 18:19, Lorenz
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You didn't even read, what you gave your +100 for!
Kind regards
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+100 to this :D
With kind regards
Katja Lampela
*Lieska-tuotanto*
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17.10.2012 9:57, Steffen Gebert kirjoitti:
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You didn't even read, what you gave your +100 for!
Kind regards
Steffen
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Hello Kindergarten how are you?
+1
-1
=0
and this is exactly what TYPO3 is getting to with those childishness!
On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 6:48 PM, Katja Lampela katja.lamp...@lieska.netwrote:
+100 to this :D
With kind regards
Katja Lampela
*Lieska-tuotanto*
www.lieska.net
17.10.2012
Hello,
Despite the fact that it is quite unusual for me to do so, I wish to
react concerning the change of logo.
For our small company, the change of the TYPO3 logo is difficult to
accept. We have invested in sales promotional materials. Today, these
investments have been whipped out.
Am 16.10.2012 15:21, schrieb Véronique Julmy:
We have invested in sales promotional materials. Today, these
investments have been whipped out.
+1
i also calculate with a lifetime for promotial materials of 2-3 years
this type of change has a much greater
tendency to knock down small companies
Hi there
Sorry, but I really don't see the point in throwing away all material
now. I don't think that a customer would turn your offer down just
because the logo color on your PR material is different than the logo on
the TYPO3 website.
At least in my experience, building trust and having
+ 1 to this
With kind regards
Katja Lampela
*Lieska-tuotanto*
www.lieska.net
16.10.2012 18:19, Lorenz Ulrich kirjoitti:
Hi there
Sorry, but I really don't see the point in throwing away all material now. I
don't think that a customer would turn your offer down just because the logo
color
Am 11.10.2012 23:25, schrieb ben van 't ende:
[...] and being dutch my favorite color is orange ;)
Here we go. That's the main reason! ;) *scnr*
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Am 11.10.2012 23:36, schrieb Martin Bless:
Hi,
Proposal:
To improve communication: I'm proposing to implement a mailing
list typo3-about @lists.typo3.org to have the right space for
meta discussions like this one.
For the proposal:
+1 by Gina
+1 by Robert (Lembke)
+1 by me
+1 Andi
Hi Rasmus all,
please have look at this comparison:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/2de9ia225nu1wdj/logo-comparison-001.png
The little images are taken from http://neos.typo3.org where they
are rushing through the TYPO3 Neos Buzz right now. Sizes are 30x30
pixels as on neos.typo3.org.
*What is
Hey,
Martin Bless wrote:
That printing and displaying the green color has always given us
problems
I understand that two colors may be more expensive in print than
one. But that's the price for having a more expressive logo.
I understand that some people somewhen are not capable of printing
Hi Martin,
this comparision is a bit unfair.
The green colored version is a way smaller, than the orange one.
If i remember right it's not allowed to use the old TYPO3 Logo on a non
unique colored background? - Why do team members do that?
Regards
Kay
Am 11.10.2012 10:26, schrieb Martin
Hi,
All, please let me know if you'd like to contribute in general to the
coming TYPO3 branding projects and tasks. Just write what you think
you're super good at and let me know how you'd like to help out.
Best,
Rasmus
bernd wilke wrote:
Am 11.10.2012 00:12, schrieb Martin Bless:
I'm
If i remember right it's not allowed to use the old TYPO3 Logo on a non
unique colored background? - Why do team members do that?
Exactly - we should be able to do that, though! Those guidelines need to
change. We didn't even know twitter back then :-)
Rasmus
Regards
Kay
Am 11.10.2012
Sry, the colored one (two colors) is better recognizeable.
I also asked my designer :D:
Where is the TYPO3 Logo - He pointed at the two color version ;)
Where is the second logo - He search 20 secs an pointed to the new
one, with a scary smile ...
Regards
Kay
Am 11.10.2012 12:28, schrieb
On 10/10/2012 09:45 AM, Christian Nölle wrote:
[...]
Very good point. I think, most of the people are tending to explode
because that was the way choosen to communicate the change by the
unkown team.
The decision was made, maybe internally discussed (at least I hope so)
and then rushed to
Sry, the colored one (two colors) is better recognizeable.
I do agree.
Recognizability is just not the goal here - which seems to be the
premise of a lot of posts in this thread.
End goals are, from my point of view:
* Visually understructure the major product changes happening (basically
Guys,
Let's finish this story.
I am with TYPO3 since 2006, and I feel that this makes more and more damage
to community and TYPO3 as product.
Personally I really want to see old logo back...and I am bit disappointed
how all this happened...but, if guys from Core team want to keep new logo,
you
hi kay,
this is a funny comparison. think about the following:
lets do a time travel back in time... to the moment when we switched the
triple sheet logo to the orange/green logo.
if i would have shown
A. the (back then *new*) orange green logo
B. and the (back then *actual*) triple sheet,
Rasmus,
I don't doubt your intentions a second. Somewhere here must the
important thing be hidden that I don't understand:
End goals are, from my point of view:
* Visually understructure the major product changes happening (basically
telling the world we're making new stuff)
* Strengthen the
Hi Gina,
it's good to see that you post sounds friendly and appreciating.
Thanks for that.
lets do a time travel back in time... to the moment when we switched the
triple sheet logo to the orange/green logo.
But: As you point out: Thanks to Rasmus that was the moment when
the TYPO3 logo
hi kay,
Proposal:
To improve communication: I'm proposing to implement a mailing
list typo3-about @lists.typo3.org to have the right space for
meta discussions like this one. I'm asking you to support this
idea. Or is there a better idea?
this sounds great.
if you ask me, who i would give
Gina,
Proposal:
To improve communication: I'm proposing to implement a mailing
list typo3-about @lists.typo3.org to have the right space for
meta discussions like this one. I'm asking you to support this
idea. Or is there a better idea?
this sounds great.
That are the important words.
Hell Andi,
thanks for participating. I would very much appreciate that you
give your complete name like we usually do here. Feels strange to
me to answer to a Vorname (first name) only.
Great Gina Thanks
Yeah, that's a great link Gina gave I didn't know of. Saying
thanks is always a good thing.
Hi,
Proposal:
To improve communication: I'm proposing to implement a mailing
list typo3-about @lists.typo3.org to have the right space for
meta discussions like this one.
For the proposal:
+1 by Gina
+1 by Robert (Lembke)
+1 by me
+1 Andi (lastname)
+1 Ben van't Ende (expressed in PM)
So,
Am 09.10.2012 20:30, schrieb Philipp Gampe:
Has anybody asked the team for the
reasons behind it before exploding on personal blogs, twitter, facebook,
general mailing lists that it is the blunder of the century?
Due to the lag of communication, nobody had a chance to ask the unknown
team.
Am 09.10.2012 17:04, schrieb Rasmus Skjoldan:
I'll get back tomorrow about it all :-)
+1
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Am 08.10.2012 10:34, schrieb Martin Bless:
[snip]
Please don't be afraid to revert that decision. Put that green
back. The earlier you do the less confusion will arise. You should
do everything you can to avoid that people feel an inner
dissonance or even a conflict. Don't do it for me - do
Hi,
-1, what makes you all brand experts?
I disagree to the mentioned arguments, the logo was misused quite
often - especially in relation to Flow/Neos and this new layout finally
enables that.
This is the 4th version of the TYPO3 logo and we'll sure see more in the
future. Our community's
Hi!
Tolleiv Nietsch wrote:
-1, what makes you all brand experts?
It is not about being expert it is about what the majority likes. If only
experts like it and the majority doesn't, who needs it? :)
Disclamer: I do not have any poll results about the new logo but I think
the expert topic
Am 10.10.12 10:46, schrieb Dmitry Dulepov:
It is not about being expert it is about what the majority likes. If
only experts like it and the majority doesn't, who needs it?
before getting to philosophic on it:
De gustos y colores discutan los doctores!
Only doctors discus colors and taste.
I
Hey Martin all,
Surely, it has not yet been explained thoroughly why I proposed to kick
the green color in the logo.
I'd love to elaborate on that (now, that we have time to explain some of
it).
That printing and displaying the green color has always given us
problems (many due to
Christian Nölle wrote:
Am 09.10.2012 20:30, schrieb Philipp Gampe:
Has anybody asked the team for the
reasons behind it before exploding on personal blogs, twitter, facebook,
general mailing lists that it is the blunder of the century?
Due to the lag of communication, nobody had a chance to
Hi!
Olivier Dobberkau wrote:
I wonder if everyone contributing in this discusion is really aware of
the outside view we create and the joy other product-makers have in
telling that the TYPO3 Community is a bunch of disunited people.
In this thread people seem to be united. Count +1s for the
Personally I don't mind the change itself. It's true that the logo with
2 colors was more distinctive,
Agreed.
I don't think we should go back. I think it's rather clever to rely on
shape for brand recognition rather than color. After all they are quite
a few color-blind people around, for
I wonder if everyone contributing in this discusion is really aware of
the outside view we create and the joy other product-makers have in
telling that the TYPO3 Community is a bunch of disunited people.
In this thread people seem to be united. Count +1s for the old logo! :)
I fell more
On 10/10/12 12:13, Tonix (Antonio Nati) wrote:
But you have now a new toy, called NEOS. Please use new colors (and
ideas) in NEOS, and let TYPO3 be in the usual old way.
We have some years of life with TYPO3, right? Let us spent these years
gracefully, and put your efforts in the new product.
Rasmus Skjoldan wrote:
Ehm, so you're basically saying I and all the others who've worked hard
on all this for 2 years are not part of the community - but primarily
the organization... This is plainly a wrong distinction, you make. From
my point of view.
No, I did not say that :)
Okay :-)
Il 10/10/2012 13:11, Stefano Cecere ha scritto:
On 10/10/12 12:13, Tonix (Antonio Nati) wrote:
But you have now a new toy, called NEOS. Please use new colors (and
ideas) in NEOS, and let TYPO3 be in the usual old way.
We have some years of life with TYPO3, right? Let us spent these years
Hi Rasmus,
- the reasons are indeed fuzzy: as you mention, the only reason
highlighted in the keynote was that monochrome was easier to print, in
particular on t-shirts. This sound so lame. Robert - if you're reading
this - don't take it personally, but that part of your speech was simply
Hi,
On 10-10-2012 13:11, Stefano Cecere wrote:
i would have loved to stay all on the same boat (the 6.x) bringing the
best parts of FLOW and NEOS experience integrated into it.
but it seems it was impossible.
there will be probably splits in the future.. someone will bring on
That's a very
Please... Think about how much Robert presented in that talk. You should
criticize ME for not giving a talk about the changes and not Robert for
not getting around all hundred arguments for changing the logo.
That's why I said Robert shouldn't take it personally if he read this. I
wouldn't have
definitly +1 - i missed that decision.
Leave the CMS logo as it was! - Or lets the association logo be the one
with green, what would mean, all brands use the 2 colored version, but
may also use a simpler version!
The Logo is more a brand than the word TYPO3 ...
I think a test would probably
Hi,
Tonix (Antonio Nati) schrieb:
TYPO3 is losing its professional skin.
Finally wise words, because green is and will always be the official
color of professionalism! *sigh*
FLOW/NEOS is going to become a tool for webmasters, not for professional
developers.
You did realize that
Somebody
decided something and the community must accept wordlessly.
hey, that's democracy! :-)
the community voted for the people to take those desicions. everybody is
free to vote for other people next time.
roland
ps: i like the whole new concept - thanks again! :-)
Il 10/10/2012 15:03, Tolleiv Nietsch ha scritto:
Hi,
Tonix (Antonio Nati) schrieb:
TYPO3 is losing its professional skin.
Finally wise words, because green is and will always be the official
color of professionalism! *sigh*
I was speaking about the development attitudes and features, not
Hi,
On 10-10-2012 15:37, Tonix (Antonio Nati) wrote:
But TYPO3 is really loosing its pro attitudes!
Can you explain a bit?
I can tell you that complains are the worst things to share in our
community ;)
In your vision of community there is no space for complaints? Just
sheeps saying yes?
Hi again,
Tonix (Antonio Nati) schrieb:
But TYPO3 is really loosing its pro attitudes!
I disagree.
In your vision of community there is no space for complaints? Just
sheeps saying yes?
Can only repeat myself: You did realize that we're an open source
community where everyone is invited
Am 10.10.12 15:13, schrieb Roland: the community voted for the people
to take those desicions. everybody is
free to vote for other people next time.
Do you have an other understanding of the community?
If you mean this in context of T3A, then this is wrong because only
member of the T3A are
Il 10/10/2012 16:26, Jigal van Hemert ha scritto:
Hi,
On 10-10-2012 15:37, Tonix (Antonio Nati) wrote:
But TYPO3 is really loosing its pro attitudes!
Can you explain a bit?
Coming from enterprise projects, I feel TYPO3 original founder had great
analysis skills, so TYPO3 architecture has
Hi Milicev Uros,
Milicev Uros wrote:
We want poll
We want poll
We want poll
...!!!
:D
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hi stefano,
the community voted for the people
to take those desicions. everybody is
free to vote for other people next time.
Do you have an other understanding of the community?
If you mean this in context of T3A, then this is wrong because only
member of the T3A are able to vote the
We want poll
We want poll
We want poll
!!!
Move to Switzerland. We've got enough polls here.
:-)
Am 10.10.2012 17:31, schrieb Milicev Uros:
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Hi,
On 10-10-2012 17:20, Tonix (Antonio Nati) wrote:
Coming from enterprise projects, I feel TYPO3 original founder had great
analysis skills, so TYPO3 architecture has been deeply thought and
designed. About actual developers, I have the feeling they are
technologically skilled but lack any
Hi,
Rasmus thank you for the explanation and you and your team's work.
I think this discussion is a bit hmm.. oh well.. First of all the
change - even though it's not for everybody to love - is not that big,
drastic or dramatic as some of us are saying. Considering it gets pluses
from brand
Il 10/10/2012 20:54, Jigal van Hemert ha scritto:
Hi,
On 10-10-2012 17:20, Tonix (Antonio Nati) wrote:
Coming from enterprise projects, I feel TYPO3 original founder had great
analysis skills, so TYPO3 architecture has been deeply thought and
designed. About actual developers, I have the
Am 10.10.12 22:01, schrieb Tonix (Antonio Nati):
future is elsewhere
where?
olivier
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Hello Rasmus,
first of all I'd like to say that I really appreciate your post
and like reading it because it's full of enthusiasm. And you're
trying to go for the best solution. Same with me: so enthusiasm
and striving for excellence is what brings us together here. Very
good.
And I'm really
Am 11.10.2012 00:12, schrieb Martin Bless:
That printing and displaying the green color has always given us
problems
I understand that two colors may be more expensive in print than
one. But that's the price for having a more expressive logo.
+1
and for thees guys they have problems with a
Hi,
my opinion: I am only a developer and not a designer and certainly not
a logo or brand guru. Therefore I follow the principle in every area
you are not trained, you got the knowledge of a 7year old.
What does that mean?
Of course I got an own opinion but this really just a private one and I
Hi Jigal,
if I can I would restrict this thread to the topic of getting the
green back. How do you feel about that? What about my arguments?
The shape is so unique and distinct that it really doesn't matter IMO.
As I wrote I surely have a different opinion there.
And I have reasons to doubt
i agree on all Martin's line
to take off the green hasn't brought anything better.. i see just
negative effects..
seen it as a mistake it can be rolled back
ps: T-shirt can always have the monocromatic version as always had!
ps2: orange is my favourite color! :)
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On 9-10-2012 12:03, Martin Bless wrote:
if I can I would restrict this thread to the topic of getting the
green back. How do you feel about that? What about my arguments?
I have no feeling about getting the green back or going orange.
As I've said, orange is not my favourite colour. I
Hi,
+1 to this. The more I look at it, more I like it. I like the simplicity
and I think it works as a small version even better than the old one.
But of course this is only my humble opinion :)
- Katja
9.10.2012 9:48, Georg Ringer kirjoitti:
I like the new logo, it makes it simplier and
Jigal,
The all orange icon will clearly
loose if compared to the orange-green one in terms of
recognizability (Wiedererkennbarkeit).
The only solution to this problem is to do research.
Yes, that's true. But for some things there is so called face
validity. You don't have to spend much money
Sry, but i just must say, perfect example.
Regards
Kay
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Hey guys
I'm responsible for the decision about excluding the green (and actually
also to introduce it in the logo back then :-) ) - and I'd love to
explain it in more detail than what Robert had time to include in the
keynote.
I'll get back tomorrow about it all :-)
Best,
Rasmus
Katja
Hi Martin,
I watched the keynote of the T3CON. The reason(ing) I heard was:
We want to simplify things for you. It's cheaper to print the
logo on t-shirts and so on with just one color. People would say
TYPO3 is 'orange'. Did I miss an argument?
Personally I don't mind the change itself. It's
On Mon, 08 Oct 2012 09:34:20 +0100, Martin Bless m.bl...@gmx.de wrote:
Please don't be afraid to revert that decision. Put that green
back. The earlier you do the less confusion will arise. You should
do everything you can to avoid that people feel an inner
dissonance or even a conflict. Don't
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