I thought I'd give a shot at answering some of Doug's questions about the
new U2 Developer (aka GUI Basic IDE).
Is it backward compatible to Universe 9.6 or UniData 6.1?
It will require you to install some Basic routines on the server but
should work with older versions.
Has it been
To be a part of the ud7.2 EAP would be nice - I have been asking for months but
not heard anything yet, I would definitely be a good tester of the ide if only
I could get hold of it ..
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Hi Scott,
You need to initialise Y to null at the start too.
Y =
Regards,
Jeff Marcos
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For anyone who didn't pick up on Charles' timely plug (thanks Charles):
The U2UG have published a new Wiki. It's waiting for your content to turn this
into the most complete resource for the IBM U2 community.
You can find the Wiki on the U2UG website. Registration is separate, and all
All,
It is no secret that I vehemently disagree with making this an
unmoderated list. So I'm going to take a poll. Everyone who is looking
forward to no moderator intervention during the next GOTO war or Single
Letter Variable war or next Monty Python Quote jamboree, please sound
off your
Hi all,
UV 10.1.8
What is the best way to verify the integrity of a file while users are
accessing (if possible at all)?
I see that fixtool will set an exclusive file lock when executing without any
options. If I understand correctly, the -start and -stop options will scan the
file setting
My *opinion* is that u2-community needs abolished.
As for the argument I don't have enough bandwidth in the 2000's for text
email - I don't buy it.
I think topics need *END OF THREAD* only when they become obscene, or out of
control - meaning someone is attacking someone else, or each other
Hi Charles,
I can't post this to U2-Community as I'm not subscribed so apologies for
posting here.
I remember the solipsistic and personal threads and do not miss them. I
much prefer and value the moderated list and have nothing but thanks and
appreciation (and a beverage of choice if your
Thank-you, Brian. This has great potential.
From: Brian Leach
The U2UG have published a new Wiki. It's waiting for your content
to turn this into the most complete resource for the IBM U2 community.
You can find the Wiki on the U2UG website. Registration is separate,
and all U2-ers are
You can try doing a uvbackup on the file to /dev/null. When the file is
backed up it checks the integrity of the file.
Jerry
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Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 10:20 AM
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Chuck:
Too bad UD doesn't feel the same way. :-(
Bill
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Stevenson, Charles
Sent: Monday, September 10, 2007 10:00 PM
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Cc: Dana Moore; Scott Ballinger
Subject: RE: [U2] UV
Everyone who is looking forward to no moderator intervention during the
next GOTO war or Single Letter Variable war or next Monty Python Quote
jamboree, please sound off your approval. All those who want to see
personal attacks unsanctioned, sing out. And please take a moment to vote
for
I am *not *in favor of an unmoderated list. I am a member of CDP and
it is not uncommon for religious wars and off-topic threads to run for
days. I tend to ignore the list when this happens thereby losing the
benefit
of the excellent help to be had.
Ron White
Moderator wrote:
All,
It is
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Everyone who is looking forward to no moderator intervention
Chuck,
I would suggest a chat room for unmoderated and off-topic discussions
instead of a mailing list. Who really wants to dig through archives to read
about totally unrelated material? CDP is already cluttered with it. If you,
or any of the admins, want help setting something up, let me know.
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Chuck
As a list-member, here is my personal view: I'm entirely with you.
I also have to say - I have witnessed Chuck's involvement with this list and
with the U2UG board, and the time he gives to this community is simply
incredible. I would also say the same of Larry for the wonderful job he
I'm not sure how through it is but I've always found that just doing a COUNT
on a file has shown when there's a problem.
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Charles,
I think you have the answer already. topics moved to community die, albeit
gracelessly.
I have no idea what the subscription numbers are for community verses this
list, but most of us lack the time or inclination to participate in the
majority of the 'diatribe' (my word choice) that
From: Laura Hirsh
Hey Chuck - I think you meant www.u2ug.org in your path...
Yup, the new Wiki is under www.u2ug.org.
Neither fat fingers nor MS spellchecker accounts for that one.
Maybe our resident psychologist, Ray Wurlod, can provide a Freudian
explanation.
On second thought, don't!
I think we should start a war over this!!! '-)
Seriously though, I'm on the everything is just fine side
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All,
It is no secret that I vehemently disagree with making this an
A count misses many types of possible corruption. If you select the file,
then do
LIST FNAME LASTATTRIBUTE
that will give you a better, though still incomplete, appraisal of a
file's integrity.
Karl
quote who=Bob Woodward
I'm not sure how through it is but I've always found that just doing a
Please keep this a moderated list.
Thanks,
Paul Law
Programmer / Analyst
Value Part, Inc
http://www.valuepart.com/
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I say keep the list moderated. I have seen what happens when lists get thrown to
the wolves - they basically become useless. I have not had any issues with how
the lists have been managed.
Keep up all the good work!
Regards,
Tom Gorton
When faced with a challenge, look for a way, not a way
I, too, am not sure how thorough it is, but I do a FILE.STAT (or
ANALYZE.FILE).
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On Sep 11, 2007, at 11:07 AM, Bob Woodward wrote:
I'm not sure how through it is but I've always found that just
doing a COUNT
on a file has shown when there's a problem.
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Hi,
It is possible create a trigger (subroutine) for a pick file (non SQL
table)?
On D3 we have CALLX, is there a feature like this in Universe?
Thanks in advance.
Best Regards,
Marcos Fogaca
Integral Sistemas
Sao Paulo / Brazil
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Too bad UD doesn't feel the same way. :-(
I'm not sure what this references, but UniData does have a series of log
files. They're text files ($UDTBIN/*.log and $UDTBIN/*.errlog), and the
information doesn't scroll away if you don't catch the entries quickly
enough.
Tim Snyder
Consulting
Naw. Ray's a *real* psychologist. He even knows statistics. grin
On Sep 11, 2007, at 11:22 AM, Stevenson, Charles wrote:
Maybe our resident psychologist, Ray Wurlod, can provide a Freudian
explanation.
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Hi Marcos,
Universe seems hellbent on invoking the entire SQL system in order to put a
simple trigger on a file. UniData is MUCH more forgiving in that regard.
With Universe, I have had a certain amount of success making what I call
'indexed subroutines' where by an index on a file calls a
Scott,
Are you still with a company that uses FAST? If so, it does a good job
of checking file integrity and doesn't interfere with other users.
COUNT will find gross errors, FILE.STAT is a little better, but these
kinds of utilities can miss problems such as a large record with a flink
/ blink
On 9/11/07, Moderator [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
All,
It is no secret that I vehemently disagree with making this an
unmoderated list.
I must have missed some of the conversation because I did not hear
anyone suggest that the list be unmoderated, just that it be moderated
like many other lists
Well said.
Do you realize that this thread is actually being talked about on both
lists now! :-)
Jerry
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From: Jeff Fitzgerald [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 3:01 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [U2C] Religious Wars
Chill,
At 02:01 PM 9/11/2007, you wrote:
It is possible create a trigger (subroutine) for a pick file (non SQL
table)?
Yes. I just so happened looked this up for someone else this
morning. The best source of documentation I came across was this FAQ.
File Trigger Example
Technote (FAQ)
Problem
Hi Marcos, what version of universe are you running ?
We used to use the index w subroutine method you describe but this is
now gone in favour of native universe triggers. We have many files in
universe with triggers on them , there is no requirement to SQL'ize the
table and believe me these
I'm not sure in what version it was implemented, but you *can* have
triggers on non-SQL files in Universe (and have been able to for some
time now). Cataloging the subroutine so that it can be called as a
trigger is somewhat weird, and not well documented, but if you search
the list archives, you
Trey,
I do the same thing. You have to keep the actions taken by the
trigger brief, though. You don't want to interfere with the entry,
maintenance, and other updating that the file receives.
- Chuck
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Hi Marcos,
With Universe, I have had a certain amount of
Hi Doug,
The problem is that the TEST.FILE MUST be a UV SQL Table. In my case, will
be a problem if a need to convert my regular files using the command
CONVERT.SQL, it will be painful.
Regards,
Marcos Fogaca
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After FILETRIG is compiled it must be globally catalogued:
CATALOG BP FILETRIG
*ce*FILETRIG cataloged.
Note that, depending on your account flavor, this may not do what you
need. I believe that you need an Information flavor catalog. We have a
verb setup as follows:
ED VOC ICATALOG
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I am against the unmoderated list and I am against the combining of the two
lists into one. I often wait with great anticipations the intervention of
the moderator when a thread gets to far off track, for my thinking.
Tom Dodds
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Hi,
My UV is release 10.2 and if I try convert a regular pick file there are the
error message :
CREATE TRIGGER T_TRIGGER AFTER INSERT OR UPDATE ON GVMTA030 FOR EACH ROW
CALLING '*T_TRIGGER';
UniVerse/SQL: Invalid file type specified.
Warning: SICA information could not be read properly!!
Since 10.0. Yes, it works on all file types except 1 and 19. Being
directories, they don't have file headers, thus no place to put the
SICA.
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Clif
On Sep 11, 2007, at 1:59 PM, Geoffrey Mitchell wrote:
I'm not sure in what version it was implemented, but you *can* have
Not as of release 10.0.
On Sep 11, 2007, at 2:24 PM, Marcos Fogaga wrote:
The problem is that the TEST.FILE MUST be a UV SQL Table.
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Chill, Chuck! ;-) As Bruce Neylon pointed out, your emotions
are leading you to distort things a tad. But, this is such a nice group
that no one is going to attack you for venting or suggest that you not
do that. Even if tomorrow you wish you'd waited to hit SEND no one here
will jump
At 04:24 PM 9/11/2007, Marcos Fogaga wrote:
Hi Doug,
The problem is that the TEST.FILE MUST be a UV SQL Table. In my case, will
be a problem if a need to convert my regular files using the command
CONVERT.SQL, it will be painful.
Not per this line in the FAQ as well as reports
from some others
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would let you know that Fusion Direct Java Data Adapter works seamlessly with
ColdFusion.
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I use triggers on 10.2 files frequently.
What file type is GVMTA030?
If it's a type 1 or 19, it won't work. If it is a static hashed 2
through 18 it will. Also works on type 30.
However, if it is a distributed file, you have to create the trigger
on each individual partfile; you cannot
Well said, Jeff, and good point, Jerry. --dawn
On 9/11/07, Jerry Banker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Well said.
Do you realize that this thread is actually being talked about on both
lists now! :-)
Jerry
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Charles:
Cool! A bit-bucket list (or /dev/null). :-)
If it works for you it works for me.
Bill
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Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 12:46 PM
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Tim:
As far as I can tell, UD doesn't have a BASIC runtime-error log. All of the
other
logs rarely interest me, but they occasionally do, but this one is a must (or
so I
thought).
I was told all previous UD developers don't make any BASIC coding errors, so I
am the
first to request such
Symeon, Sorry that would be me. I am on the road right now doing the U2
University events. I connect every now and again for brief bursts so
haven't had a chance to add you yet. I will do so before the September
call. We haven't yet made the GUI IDE part of the EAP drop but may be able
to do
I am a subscriber to both lists, and I don't even pay attention to the
source list.
I have Gmail forward both lists to work, where an Outlook filter pops up a
notice, because I like to read things as they come in, again, regardless of
the source list, and everything goes to my Saved - U2 folder.
I agree with Allen. It seems fine and I have had no problem with the
moderator's judgement to END THREAD.
Besides, this forum is far more animated and participated than the D3/Mvbase
ones I'm also on. Mvbase could go for weeks without a new topic or reply.
Besides, I can quickly skim over the
Ok, so let's vote. I agree with Jeff's [OPINION]s and Dawn's comments.
My votes:
Issue 1. A single, lightly moderated list; moderator to intervene in cases
of obvious and egregious abuse. (I don't think anyone actually suggested
having an un-moderated list; and I'm sure that _everyone_
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