On Tue, 2011-02-22 at 15:27 +0300, Сергей wrote:
> It's obviously not a
> problem of one person (as some people seem to be trying to present
> it)
I don't think the worlds problems are due to one person, but the
problems of this member's behavior are a continuing issue. Thorwill
didn't leave beca
Since some of the recent active members are new, A few notes:
Kenneth Wimer is still the team leader, but since his new job, he has
gotten very busy with work and less active here.
Thorsten Wilms had been the wiki admin for the Artwork/* section for
more than 3-4 yrs. And he had been the longest
2011/2/22 Vishnoo
> On Tue, 2011-02-22 at 15:27 +0300, Сергей wrote:
> > people messing up the official wiki without discussing the changes
> > first as a consequence.
>
> Let me ask this first, When should content/tasks be added to the
> official wiki?
>
Everything shall be kept in personal na
On Tue, 2011-02-22 at 15:27 +0300, Сергей wrote:
> people messing up the official wiki without discussing the changes
> first as a consequence.
Let me ask this first, When should content/tasks be added to the
official wiki?
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I guess we got off the initial topic.
We first need to identify the issue to fix the situation.
> We need to state clearly what our problem is, before we seek advice from
> Jono/Ivanka.
I think we need to generalize the facts and go from particular cases to more
general issues. Let's recall the
On Fri, 2011-02-18 at 08:44 -0500, Saleel Velankar wrote:
> If I have to go to the blog to find out about important changes, then
> what exactly is the point of being here?
Regarding Communications from the design team, IMO, this cycle they have
improved this multifold.
We have an increased numb
On Fri, 2011-02-18 at 08:44 -0500, Saleel Velankar wrote:
>
> I asked for critique on a wallpaper idea I was playing with, and other
> than yourself I got 0 feedback. Again what is the point? I could have
> --no I should have just asked for your opinion over IRC. It would have
> been a heck of a l
On Sat, 2011-02-19 at 16:37 +0530, Vishnoo wrote:
>
>
> Sure, a meeting to resolve this sounds good.
>
> Someone kindly take the initiative and set a date&time when John can
> attend.
We tried that. It didn't work so well. I think we'd need personal
attention from the CC. As an Ubuntu team our
>
> Banning a person is the last resource. If you have tried to resolve the
> issue privately and failed, why don't you take it publicly? We can have a
> meeting on IRC with John and the rest of the team and see if we can agree on
> how to move forward. What do you think?
>
I don't quite like the
On Sat, 2011-02-19 at 00:36 -0600, Leandro Gómez wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 11:50 PM, Vishnoo wrote:
>
> On Fri, 2011-02-18 at 19:30 -0500, coz DS wrote:
> >
> > We all need to do our part in trying to talk with jbaer,
> other
> > than tho
On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 11:50 PM, Vishnoo wrote:
> On Fri, 2011-02-18 at 19:30 -0500, coz DS wrote:
> >
> > Hey guys
> >
> > Bad taste.. wrong timing...or just plain being an ass... the
> > links offered by jbaer came at an inappropriate time.
> > Let the judging of the included wallpapers
On Fri, 2011-02-18 at 19:30 -0500, coz DS wrote:
>
> Hey guys
>
> Bad taste.. wrong timing...or just plain being an ass... the
> links offered by jbaer came at an inappropriate time.
> Let the judging of the included wallpapers finish..then do what you
> like... but official stuff needs to
2011/2/18 Leandro Gómez
> On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 4:09 PM, Vishnoo wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 2011-02-18 at 15:17 -0600, Leandro Gómez wrote:
>> > On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 2:07 PM, Vishnoo wrote:
>> > On Fri, 2011-02-18 at 13:47 -0600, Leandro Gómez wrote:
>> > >
>> > > I don't
On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 4:09 PM, Vishnoo wrote:
> On Fri, 2011-02-18 at 15:17 -0600, Leandro Gómez wrote:
> > On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 2:07 PM, Vishnoo wrote:
> > On Fri, 2011-02-18 at 13:47 -0600, Leandro Gómez wrote:
> > >
> > > I don't like the way this is discussion is
On Fri, 2011-02-18 at 15:17 -0600, Leandro Gómez wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 2:07 PM, Vishnoo wrote:
> On Fri, 2011-02-18 at 13:47 -0600, Leandro Gómez wrote:
> >
> > I don't like the way this is discussion is turning out.
> >
> >
> > Of course,
On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 2:07 PM, Vishnoo wrote:
> On Fri, 2011-02-18 at 13:47 -0600, Leandro Gómez wrote:
> >
> > I don't like the way this is discussion is turning out.
> >
> >
> > Of course, one disruptive member can cause a lot of problems. People
> > get frustrated, they resign and cease cont
On Fri, 2011-02-18 at 13:47 -0600, Leandro Gómez wrote:
>
> I don't like the way this is discussion is turning out.
>
>
> Of course, one disruptive member can cause a lot of problems. People
> get frustrated, they resign and cease contributing to the team.
>
People resigning is what Сергей me
2011/2/18 Vishnoo
> I doubt that, even Thorsten and Martin tried to talk to him in private
> off the mailing list and try to resolve these issues of
> mis-communication, mis-representations.
> But nothing seems to help, hence the magnitude of frustration you notice
> in the replies from Thorsten
On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 1:14 PM, Vishnoo wrote:
> On Fri, 2011-02-18 at 21:10 +0300, Сергей wrote:
> > 2011/2/18 Vishnoo
> > People want to have fun and be productive, and not to
> > constantly have to
> > worry about people creating their own sub-groups and
> > s
On Fri, 2011-02-18 at 21:10 +0300, Сергей wrote:
> 2011/2/18 Vishnoo
> People want to have fun and be productive, and not to
> constantly have to
> worry about people creating their own sub-groups and
> sabotaging existing
> process for their personal intere
2011/2/18 Vishnoo
> People want to have fun and be productive, and not to constantly have to
> worry about people creating their own sub-groups and sabotaging existing
> process for their personal interest.
>
I'm absolutely sure that all people on this list have good intentions.
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On Fri, 2011-02-18 at 20:02 +0300, Сергей wrote:
> 2011/2/18 Vishnoo
> @Сергей, Leandro Gómez, Saleel Velankar:
> can you clearly state what issue has been troubling you?
>
> My issue is that most people got disappointed and discouraged to the
> point of leaving the team.
We can
On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 1:00 AM, Vishnoo wrote:
> Hi,
> Thorsten's recent mail "Goodbye", has generated some response and there
> has been reference to issues and seeking advice from Jono/Ivanka.
>
> Highlighting the relevant replies:
>
> On Thu, 2011-02-17 at 18:40 +0100, Thorsten Wilms wrote:
>
2011/2/18 Vishnoo
> @Сергей, Leandro Gómez, Saleel Velankar:
> can you clearly state what issue has been troubling you?
>
My issue is that most people got disappointed and discouraged to the point
of leaving the team.
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>Saleel Velankar: can you clearly state what issue has been troubling you?
Look I do not want to spend my time talking about how to set up the wiki, or
which groups to add stuff into. I have no interest in dealing with proposals
which are added without discussion, and specs that are pulled without
Hi,
Thorsten's recent mail "Goodbye", has generated some response and there
has been reference to issues and seeking advice from Jono/Ivanka.
Highlighting the relevant replies:
On Thu, 2011-02-17 at 18:40 +0100, Thorsten Wilms wrote:
> Our combined inability or unwillingness to deal with repeated
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