Re: hwinfo package not available-black screen during Vivid boot

2015-03-27 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Friday, March 27, 2015 06:26:14 PM Felix Miata wrote: > http://mirrors.kernel.org/ubuntu/pool/universe/h/hwinfo/ has the packages, > though they are old. Neither apt-get nor aptitude acknowledge their > existence on my fresh minimalist HTTP en_US Vivid installation with sddm > and kf5 added. App

Re: upgrade udev on Ubuntu 14.04

2015-03-14 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Saturday, March 14, 2015 06:27:14 PM Aron Xu wrote: > On Fri, Mar 13, 2015 at 4:33 PM, Qiang Huang > > wrote: > > Hi list, > > > > I'm a Docker user, for some reason, I need to use Docker on Ubuntu 14.04 > > with devicemapper driver, but we got a serious problem because udev on > > Ubuntu 14.

Re: DebianImportException of FeatureFreezeException for Debian packages?

2015-02-22 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Sunday, February 22, 2015 06:41:19 PM Ole Streicher wrote: > Hi, > > I am trying to get the stable version of python-astropy [1] from > experimental into Ubuntu so that it can be shipped with 15.04. However, > I am a bit confused what I should do: I already filed a > DebianImportException [2] (

Re: Go 1.3 is unmaintained/unsupported upstream

2015-02-14 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Saturday, February 14, 2015 05:00:29 PM Martin Pitt wrote: > Robie Basak [2015-02-13 17:39 +]: > > But this is the way the world is going, and something I think Ubuntu > > needs to adapt to. > > I heavily disagree for something as fundamental as a > toolchain/compiler, but we've had this co

Re: Go 1.3 is unmaintained/unsupported upstream

2015-02-13 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Friday, February 13, 2015 18:17:29 Martin Pitt wrote: > John Lenton [2015-02-13 16:26 +]: > > Go 1.3.3, which we are shipping in Vivid, is unmaintained upstream¹ > > (yes, despite being released less than six months ago). > > > > Would it be possible to move to 1.4 in vivid? > > Better be

Re: virtualbox dependency

2014-12-03 Thread Scott Kitterman
The virtualbox package recommends virtualbox-dkms. On an Ubuntu system in it's default configuration that would mean that anytime you installed virtualbox or virtualbox-qt, virtualbox-dkms would be installed. If Mint doesn't do that, you should probably take this up with Mint developers. It's

Re: Devuan

2014-12-01 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Monday, December 01, 2014 04:31:55 PM Diego Germán Gonzalez wrote: > El 01/12/14 a las 15:45, Michael Hall escibió: > > Please do keep an eye on Devuan's development, and participate in it if > > you are interested in the direction they are taking. But I think we can > > all agree that it is*far

Re: Devuan

2014-12-01 Thread Scott Kitterman
post - you have zero right to come down on him and > accuse him of being off-topic just because you don't like the idea, so > please, get off your high horse. > > -Original Message- > From: ubuntu-devel-discuss-boun...@lists.ubuntu.com > [mailto:ubuntu-devel-discuss-b

Re: Devuan

2014-12-01 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Monday, December 01, 2014 14:17:57 Diego Germán Gonzalez wrote: > El 01/12/14 a las 14:11, Alexander Hanff escibió: > > Who died and made you god of what people can and cannot discuss on this > > list. Diego spotted an interesting new development which he brought to > > the > > attention of the

Re: Devuan

2014-12-01 Thread Scott Kitterman
Message- > From: ubuntu-devel-discuss-boun...@lists.ubuntu.com > [mailto:ubuntu-devel-discuss-boun...@lists.ubuntu.com] On Behalf Of Scott > Kitterman > Sent: 01 December 2014 17:42 > To: ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com > Subject: Re: Devuan > > On Monday, December 01,

Re: Devuan

2014-12-01 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Monday, December 01, 2014 11:22:22 AM Diego Germán Gonzalez wrote: > I just learned of the launch of Devuan > https://devuan.org/ > A fork of Debian which eliminates the requirement to use systemd, and > promises to build a less bureaucratic and more friendly community > towards the derived dist

Re: Why Ubuntu doesn’t support certain form of shebang for Python?

2014-11-11 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Tuesday, November 11, 2014 15:52:22 Neal McBurnett wrote: > On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 05:19:38PM -0500, Barry Warsaw wrote: > > On Nov 11, 2014, at 11:48 AM, Neal McBurnett wrote: > > >I'm glad that python2 is in Debian and Ubuntu (do you know offhand which > > >releases?). Which distros is it st

Re: Why Ubuntu doesn’t support certain form of shebang for Python?

2014-11-11 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Tuesday, November 11, 2014 13:04:38 Rodney Dawes wrote: > On Tue, 2014-11-11 at 18:02 +0100, GatoLoko wrote: > > Since different distributions and unix systems may have different paths, > > you may want to use the env utility in a shebang like "#!/usr/bin/env > > python2". > > Using /usr/bin/en

Re: Our Networking Story

2014-03-07 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Friday, March 07, 2014 12:57:37 Robie Basak wrote: > On Thu, Mar 06, 2014 at 01:32:17PM -0800, Benjamin Kerensa wrote: > > Why was it necessary to have discussions internally when they could > > have been open by default? > > (wearing both my Canonical and Ubuntu hats) > > Are Canonical emplo

Re: Our Networking Story

2014-03-06 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Thursday, March 06, 2014 14:48:52 Bryan Quigley wrote: > We've had a lot of internal Canonical discussions about our networking > story and before going to a UDS session [1] it was suggested to post to > ubuntu-devel. > > *Network Restart* > I'd like to start by asking each of you what you thin

Re: [nvidia-graphics-drivers] frustration with slow Nvidia drivers release schedule

2013-09-06 Thread Scott Kitterman
to it. It's like saying we need a >commercial contract with the Linux Foundation just to get support for >Intel >and AMD CPU's, it's absurd. > > >On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 3:35 PM, Scott Kitterman >wrote: > >> If you have a support contract with Canonic

Re: [nvidia-graphics-drivers] frustration with slow Nvidia drivers release schedule

2013-09-06 Thread Scott Kitterman
If you have a support contract with Canonical, then maybe Canonical has a support obligation, but Ubuntu, in particular for proprietary software, has no support "obligation". Scott K On Friday, September 06, 2013 15:14:55 AG Restringere wrote: > It's very simple: > > Nvidia "certifies" a drive

Re: Source packages appropriate by default?

2013-07-23 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Wednesday, July 24, 2013 11:00:40 AM Daniel J Blueman wrote: > Perhaps we have two issues here: > The 20% additional download due to sources [1] would help both issues, > but perhaps of bigger impact, trusting the country-level mirror for > the security updates? ... You aren't. Security up

Re: Source packages appropriate by default?

2013-07-23 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Tuesday, July 23, 2013 08:21:40 AM Jordon Bedwell wrote: > On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 6:32 AM, Scott Kitterman wrote: > > Assuming add-apt-repository was installed by default, it's close. I think > > something like this might be reasonable (imagine some policykit or >

Re: Source packages appropriate by default?

2013-07-23 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Tuesday, July 23, 2013 08:12:16 AM Robie Basak wrote: > On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 03:02:02AM -0400, Scott Kitterman wrote: > > So those are a couple of examples of what I think is definitely not what > > we > > want. I'm open to discussion about alternate ways to prese

Re: Source packages appropriate by default?

2013-07-23 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Tuesday, July 23, 2013 06:59:43 AM Robie Basak wrote: > On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 01:51:46AM -0400, Scott Kitterman wrote: > > I think most developers would believe the current situation is > > appropriate. > > I disagree. > > > By default users have the sa

Re: Source packages appropriate by default?

2013-07-22 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Tuesday, July 23, 2013 11:02:00 AM Daniel J Blueman wrote: > By large, developers are uninterested in this, but it is important for > users and where we use Ubuntu. > > Anyone care to comment on how we can progress this? I think most developers would believe the current situation is appropriat

Re: Privacy features in Touch (cyanogenmod)?

2013-06-24 Thread Scott Kitterman
Marc Deslauriers wrote: >On 13-06-23 03:41 AM, Benjamin Kerensa wrote: >>> Canonical Engineers have pretty much ignored the proposal of even >one member of >>> the Ubuntu Tech Board in regards to user privacy. >> >>> What makes you believe if Canonical ignores a former security team >>> member/c

Re: Privacy features in Touch (cyanogenmod)?

2013-06-23 Thread Scott Kitterman
Martin Albisetti wrote: >On Sun, Jun 23, 2013 at 11:45 AM, Scott Kitterman > wrote: >> I think you're throwing the CoC at someone for expressing dissent is >worse. >> It's not like he's expressing a perspective that's not reasonably >widely held. &g

Re: Privacy features in Touch (cyanogenmod)?

2013-06-23 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Sunday, June 23, 2013 11:31:29 AM Martin Albisetti wrote: > On Sun, Jun 23, 2013 at 4:41 AM, Benjamin Kerensa wrote: > >> > Unfortunately all Ubuntu seems to be working on is features that > >> > create privacy concerns (like the scopes sending search requests to > >> > Canonical servers). > >

Re: Source packages appropriate by default?

2013-05-20 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Monday, May 20, 2013 11:25:50 AM Jordon Bedwell wrote: > On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 11:19 AM, Scott Kitterman wrote: > > Apt will error out that it can't find the package. > > > > I think that if we are distributing binaries, we should (perhaps must, I'm

Re: Source packages appropriate by default?

2013-05-20 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Monday, May 20, 2013 06:16:53 PM Benjamin Drung wrote: > Am Montag, den 20.05.2013, 23:09 +0800 schrieb Daniel J Blueman: > > When installing Ubuntu, I always see the source packages enabled by > > default. > > > > For all the general users I install Ubuntu for (including servers), > > it's an

Re: Linux Mint lockscreen

2013-05-18 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Sunday, May 19, 2013 12:16:38 AM Thomas Novin wrote: > On Sat, May 18, 2013 at 3:55 PM, Jeremy Bicha wrote: > > On 18 May 2013 09:50, Thomas Novin wrote: > > > Check out the lockscreen provided by Linux Mint (package > > > cinnamon-screensaver). Looks really good, would be nice to have it in >

Re: Aptitude installed by default on 13.10?

2013-04-11 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Thursday, April 11, 2013 06:36:45 PM Brett wrote: > Seeing as this isn't dying anytime soon I'll jump in. > > > Freeing them from what, learning? Granted, the average user isn't > > interested in learning but they would be free to reject the opportunity > > if they so chose. *That's* freedom. >

Re: Aptitude installed by default on 13.10?

2013-04-09 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Tuesday, April 09, 2013 12:24:47 PM Brett Cornwall wrote: > On 04/09/2013 12:17 PM, Alexandre Strube wrote: > > Why? > > Because aptitude is the successor to apt-get, endorsed by the community > that does all the packaging for this OS, is more stable, and has better > dependency handling (indee

Re: Aptitude installed by default on 13.10?

2013-04-09 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Tuesday, April 09, 2013 12:27:28 PM Brett Cornwall wrote: > On 04/09/2013 12:19 PM, Andrew Starr-Bochicchio wrote: > > This is actually being debated over on debian-devel as we type. So > > some piece of text from the Debian FAQ that simply hasn't been updated > > in a long time doesn't trump an

Re: Unity-2d packages in Raring

2013-04-01 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Monday, April 01, 2013 10:15:41 PM Colin Law wrote: > On 1 April 2013 22:11, Jordon Bedwell wrote: > > On Mon, Apr 1, 2013 at 4:08 PM, Colin Law wrote: > >> Just out of interest does anyone know why, on Raring, I keep getting > >> updates for unity-2d packages when unity-2d is, I thought, dead

Re: Why there are many discussions in ubuntu-devel recently but not here?

2013-03-08 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Friday, March 08, 2013 12:26:51 PM Dmitrijs Ledkovs wrote: > On 8 March 2013 00:42, Ma Xiaojun wrote: > > As title. > > ubuntu-devel is open to post by ~ubuntu-developers, or moderated if > posted by others. > ubuntu-devel-discuss is open to post by anyone. > > Typically ubuntu-devel is usual

Re: Ubuntu and derivatives (Re: Ubuntu.com Download Page)

2013-01-25 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Friday, January 25, 2013 03:13:54 PM Allison Randal wrote: > On 01/25/2013 02:38 PM, Scott Kitterman wrote: > > Ubuntu.com is an element of Canonical marketing. Don't be confused into > > thinking it's more than that. > > Each flavor has a dedicated landing

Re: Ubuntu and derivatives (Re: Ubuntu.com Download Page)

2013-01-25 Thread Scott Kitterman
Ubuntu.com is an element of Canonical marketing. Don't be confused into thinking it's more than that. Scott K On Saturday, January 26, 2013 12:32:44 AM Vesa Paatero wrote: > Hi, > > Thanks for you message, Volkan. I also noticed at some point that the > Ubuntu website says surprisingly little

Re: package dependencies on versions

2012-11-09 Thread Scott Kitterman
Robie Basak wrote: >On Wed, Nov 07, 2012 at 09:54:01PM +0100, Enrico Weigelt wrote: >> Hi folks, >> >> I could use some little assistance in packaging and version >dependencies. >> >> My remdine source package creates a bunch of binary packages: >> >> * 'redmine': metapackage pulling in redmin

Re: EFF & Privacy; hopefully Ubuntu will listen to users

2012-11-05 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Monday, November 05, 2012 02:27:06 PM Rodney Dawes wrote: > On Mon, 2012-11-05 at 13:58 -0500, Scott Kitterman wrote: > > > I don't know if it's been done before or not, but perhaps the Release > > > Team, and Tech Board, should take up any concerns related

Re: EFF & Privacy; hopefully Ubuntu will listen to users

2012-11-05 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Monday, November 05, 2012 01:19:51 PM Rodney Dawes wrote: > On Mon, 2012-11-05 at 12:11 -0500, Scott Kitterman wrote: > > On Monday, November 05, 2012 11:53:03 AM Rodney Dawes wrote: > > ... > > > > > There were large changes to address some specific user concern

Re: EFF & Privacy; hopefully Ubuntu will listen to users

2012-11-05 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Monday, November 05, 2012 08:32:35 AM Benjamin Kerensa wrote: > > Or is it the case that nobody bothered to file a blueprint? Bear in mind > > that anybody in the community can create blueprints for UDS, not just > > Canonical. > > Anyone can create one but Canonical does approve them. There a

Re: EFF & Privacy; hopefully Ubuntu will listen to users

2012-11-05 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Monday, November 05, 2012 12:14:51 PM Jeremy Bicha wrote: > On 5 November 2012 11:53, Rodney Dawes wrote: > > There were large changes to address some specific user concerns around > > the dash search, that went in *after* various freezes were in effect. > > One example is http://pad.lv/106565

Re: EFF & Privacy; hopefully Ubuntu will listen to users

2012-11-05 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Monday, November 05, 2012 11:53:03 AM Rodney Dawes wrote: ... > There were large changes to address some specific user concerns around > the dash search, that went in after various freezes were in effect. ... That's also true of the shopping bits of dash search itself, so without time travel, h

Re: Are UI developers all left handed?

2012-08-08 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Wednesday, August 08, 2012 02:35:00 PM Felix Miata wrote: > On 2012/08/08 12:16 (GMT-0400) Phillip Susi composed: > > Felix Miata wrote: > >> You're under 40, right? Under 30 too? 20? > > > > 33 actually, though I don't see what that has to do with the price of > > tea in China. > > Sadly obv

Re: irqbalance as ubuntu-server dep...

2012-07-11 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Thursday, July 12, 2012 11:26:17 AM Daniel J Blueman wrote: > On 10 July 2012 22:34, Scott Kitterman wrote: > > On Tuesday, July 10, 2012 09:47:33 PM Daniel J Blueman wrote: > >> Hi Ubuntu devs, > >> > >> I've been wanting to raise the question about

Re: irqbalance as ubuntu-server dep...

2012-07-10 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Tuesday, July 10, 2012 09:47:33 PM Daniel J Blueman wrote: > Hi Ubuntu devs, > > I've been wanting to raise the question about if ubuntu-standard > should depend on irqbalance, since the benefits of irqbalance in a > typical non-server environment are questionable. > > In fact, I see it clocki

Re: multiple reports of same bug-needs fixing

2012-06-02 Thread Scott Kitterman
Ben Greear wrote: >On 06/01/2012 10:55 PM, Scott Kitterman wrote: >> Jordon Bedwell wrote: > >> It is a simple fact that if you want developers to participate on >this list, >> then it's up to you to make it a place they want to participate. >AFAICT, most &

Re: multiple reports of same bug-needs fixing

2012-06-01 Thread Scott Kitterman
Jordon Bedwell wrote: >On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 8:49 PM, Phillip Susi wrote: >> Do you consider repeating a question on IRC once every minute >spamming? Every 5 minutes? Most people would say yes. You take that >time out to once an hour and in that time frame new people often join >the channel,

Re: multiple reports of same bug-needs fixing

2012-05-31 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Thursday, May 31, 2012 02:00:21 PM Paul Graydon wrote: > On 05/31/2012 01:41 PM, Jeremy Bicha wrote: > > On 31 May 2012 18:58, Lindsey Augustine wrote: > >> All these bugs describe the same problem: Max Brightness at boot. There > >> are > >> a lot of people with this problem. > >> > >> Will t

Re: How to install Precise without getting screwed?

2012-04-11 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Wednesday, April 11, 2012 08:44:18 PM Dane Mutters wrote: > For what it's worth, I came into this discussion hoping to outline specific > problems in the GUI design process and come to useful conclusions about how > to fix it. It would seem that, while many of the people here are, indeed, > wor

Re: How to install Precise without getting screwed?

2012-04-11 Thread Scott Kitterman
Dale Amon wrote: >On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 02:01:22PM -0500, C de-Avillez wrote: >> A lot of people left KDE when KDE4 was put out. A lot returned, >others >> went elsewhere. A lot of people will leave Gnome3, or >> . It happens, >> people (in general) do not like change. But if I do not like >s

Re: How to install Precise without getting screwed?

2012-04-11 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Wednesday, April 11, 2012 12:39:51 AM Dane Mutters wrote: > On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 9:26 PM, Mathieu Trudel-Lapierre < > > mathieu...@ubuntu.com> wrote: > > On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 11:46 PM, Dane Mutters wrote: > > [...] > > > > > So, now that we've gotten some matters of conduct out of the w

Re: How to install Precise without getting screwed?

2012-04-10 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Tuesday, April 10, 2012 08:46:23 PM Dane Mutters wrote: > On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 2:24 PM, Scott Kitterman wrote: > > On Tuesday, April 10, 2012 12:26:22 PM Robert Holtzman wrote: > > > On Sat, Apr 07, 2012 at 10:26:50PM -0700, Dane Mutters wrote: > > ... > > >

Re: How to install Precise without getting screwed?

2012-04-10 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Tuesday, April 10, 2012 12:26:22 PM Robert Holtzman wrote: > On Sat, Apr 07, 2012 at 10:26:50PM -0700, Dane Mutters wrote: ... > Oh,come on. Let's not start this again. What is it about the various > Ubuntu lists that causes the Manners Police to fire up their computers > to pop out how we unwas

Re: How to install Precise without getting screwed?

2012-04-02 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Monday, April 02, 2012 08:58:20 PM Dale Amon wrote: > Oh and did I mention that some are only accessible > by ip or have unique ssh ports for security? I'm > not very good at remembering those at 3am. That's what ~/.ssh/config is for. Scott K -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel

Re: "Fix released" before "Fix committed"?

2012-03-20 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Tuesday, March 20, 2012 10:31:21 AM Andreas Hasenack wrote: > I don't get this: > > andreas@nsn7:~/bzr/landscape-client$ bzr branch > ubuntu:landscape-client landscape-client-12.04-0ubuntu1 > Most recent Ubuntu version: 12.04-0ubuntu1 > > > Packaging branch version: 11.07.1.1-0ubuntu2 > Packa

Re: Update duplicity

2012-03-03 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Saturday, March 03, 2012 07:35:13 PM Andreas Moog wrote: > On 03.03.2012 19:18, Dan Lange wrote: > > v0.6.17 was released three months ago but Ubuntu hasn't updated their > > packages for 11.10 (oneiric). Is there something blocking this or has > > Duplicity slipped through the cracks? > > We g

Re: nginx package

2012-02-22 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Wednesday, February 22, 2012 02:44:13 PM Bedwell, Jordon wrote: > On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 2:41 PM, Scott Kitterman wrote: > > On Wednesday, February 22, 2012 02:39:08 PM Bedwell, Jordon wrote: > >> On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 2:28 PM, Deni Bertović wrote: > >

Re: nginx package

2012-02-22 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Wednesday, February 22, 2012 02:39:08 PM Bedwell, Jordon wrote: > On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 2:28 PM, Deni Bertović wrote: > > I am on Ubuntu 11.10. > > > > Like i pointed out above. On a fresh install I do: > > 'apt-get install nginx' > > > > This install the necessary packages. > > After that

Re: Ubuntu should move all binaries to /usr/bin/

2011-11-01 Thread Scott Kitterman
On 11/01/2011 01:42 PM, Jeff Hanson wrote: What annoys me more is the third-party use of both /usr/local and /opt. I would rather get rid of /opt. I consider /usr/local the proper place for anything not handled by a package manager. FHS has a very specific purpose for /opt and it's different

Re: Brainstorming for UDS-P

2011-10-12 Thread Scott Kitterman
Rodney Dawes wrote: >On Wed, 2011-10-12 at 04:44 -0400, Martin Owens wrote: >> On Tue, 2011-10-11 at 09:39 -0400, Rodney Dawes wrote: >> > The Fluendo plug-in is the only fully legal MP3 codec >implementation >> > there is to use. >> >> You don't know that for sure Dobey, libmad has never gon

Re: Brainstorming for UDS-P

2011-09-27 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Friday, September 23, 2011 09:56:17 PM Allison Randal wrote: > Hi all, > > While we're all in the final preparations for Oneiric, it's round about > that time in the cycle to start thinking about plans for the next cycle. > What's on your mind? > Will we sync from Testing or Unstable this cycl

Re: Brainstorming for UDS-P

2011-09-27 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Friday, September 23, 2011 09:56:17 PM Allison Randal wrote: > Hi all, > > While we're all in the final preparations for Oneiric, it's round about > that time in the cycle to start thinking about plans for the next cycle. > What's on your mind? Having a release where the release team wasn't fl

Re: Brainstorming for UDS-P

2011-09-26 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Monday, September 26, 2011 06:58:45 PM Barry Warsaw wrote: > The python-dbus issue is a tricky one. I understand that it's a blocker for > KDE. Python-opengl is another one. While I know PyQt4 and PyKDE4 have Python3 ports, I have not examined how complete they are, but I'm sure they need

Re: Brainstorming for UDS-P

2011-09-26 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Monday, September 26, 2011 03:58:56 PM Rodrigo Moya wrote: > On vie, 2011-09-23 at 21:56 +0100, Allison Randal wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > While we're all in the final preparations for Oneiric, it's round about > > that time in the cycle to start thinking about plans for the next cycle. > > What

Re: Brainstorming for UDS-P

2011-09-23 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Friday, September 23, 2011 09:57:09 PM Barry Warsaw wrote: > On Sep 23, 2011, at 08:12 PM, Scott Kitterman wrote: > >On Friday, September 23, 2011 07:55:24 PM Barry Warsaw wrote: > >> * Python 3 only on the CDs. > > > >Not feasible for Kubuntu unless an upstream

Re: Brainstorming for UDS-P

2011-09-23 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Friday, September 23, 2011 07:55:24 PM Barry Warsaw wrote: > * Python 3 only on the CDs. Not feasible for Kubuntu unless an upstream Python 3 port for python-dbus appears (which python-qt4/pykde4 can support). > * Python 2.6 dropped. Yes. We should do this as part of the toolchain setup for

Re: New feature request for Software Center - Tag as outdated

2011-07-26 Thread Scott Kitterman
Erlan Sergaziev wrote: >There are a lot of packages even in Oneiric that are 1-2 versions >behind >stable upstream. > >I would suggest therefore that Software Center has a feature where >users >will be able to tag certain packages as outdated like in arch. > >Tagging should have the following

Re: Fwd: Re: Eventually drop the top-panel?

2011-06-27 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Monday, June 27, 2011 05:50:31 PM Kai Mast wrote: > Argh, got sent to the wrong email. Is the Reply-To-Element missing on > the List? No. It's not missing. Scott K -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ub

Re: GNOME Panel dropped in 11.10

2011-05-05 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Friday, May 06, 2011 12:23:40 AM Francis Bolduc wrote: > When computers are concerned, I'm usually stubborn and conservative. I > know exactly what I like and dislike and I do everything I can to get > rid of what I dislike on my own computer. JFTR, that sounds a lot like the KDE target audienc

Re: Congrats on 11.04

2011-04-29 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Friday, April 29, 2011 10:42:50 PM John Moser wrote: > - Installing Gnome3 from the PPA really does completely hose the > system; after that, Unity and Gnome-classic break, only Gnome-shell > works, and Gnome-shell doesn't work with my ATi card (it skews the > contents of windows diagonally

Re: Congrats on 11.04

2011-04-29 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Friday, April 29, 2011 10:33:20 PM Martin Owens wrote: > Oh woe! Won't someone let me write cool stuff in python? Yes. python-kde4 and python-qt4 would love to let you do that. Scott K -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe

Re: [Oneiric-Foundations-Topic] networked client app updates

2011-04-26 Thread Scott Kitterman
Jan Claeys wrote: >John Rowland Lenton schreef op do 21-04-2011 om 18:23 [+0100]: >> * recently we had to upgrade couchdb in lucid for replication to >work, >> and the upgrade broke replication with the old version (which was >the >> reason we needed to upgrade), as well as potentially breaki

Re: [Oneiric-Foundations-Topic] networked client app updates

2011-04-21 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Thursday, April 21, 2011 01:23:52 PM John Rowland Lenton wrote: > On Thu, 21 Apr 2011 11:29:22 -0400, Scott Kitterman wrote: > > Go through the tech board (as Landscape did) and show your QA/updating > > process is sufficiently robust to be able to ship needed feature updates &

Re: [Oneiric-Foundations-Topic] networked client app updates

2011-04-21 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Thursday, April 21, 2011 11:14:17 AM Allison Randal wrote: > The Ubuntu One developers have an interesting technical conundrum that > would benefit greatly from all of your thoughts. They've started > collecting ideas, and would like to collect more, and hopefully settle > down on a plan for the

Re: [Oneiric topic] IPv6

2011-04-19 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Tuesday, April 19, 2011 09:50:27 AM Mathieu Trudel-Lapierre wrote: > For Oneiric, my plan is to change that default for new interfaces to > Automatic IPv6 and not requiring IPv4 or IPv6 to bring up interfaces, > which should make almost everyone happy. What's the delay caused to get an IPv4 add

Re: Conditional patching in mod-wsgi

2011-04-19 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Tuesday, April 19, 2011 06:23:28 AM James Page wrote: > Help/guidance/opinion much appreciated. Debian has got the same problem since python3.2 is now the default there too. I would recommend contacting the debian mod-wsgi maintainers and asking their advice. Scott K -- Ubuntu-devel-discus

Re: amanda client/server update

2011-04-15 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Friday, April 15, 2011 12:28:33 AM Robert Simmons wrote: > On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 12:21 AM, Scott Kitterman wrote: > > On Thursday, April 14, 2011 10:26:30 PM Robert Simmons wrote: > >> I'm sure the closer the Natty release date gets the more requests such > >&g

Re: amanda client/server update

2011-04-14 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Thursday, April 14, 2011 10:26:30 PM Robert Simmons wrote: > I'm sure the closer the Natty release date gets the more requests such > as this you get, but is there any chance that the amanda client and > server packages will be brought up to date by then? > > Update to ver 3.2.2. > > Thanks, >

Re: The Dell Latitude reality check

2011-02-16 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Wednesday, February 16, 2011 08:45:01 pm Patrick Goetz wrote: > On 2/16/2011 4:07 PM, Paul Smith wrote: > > The problem is with the licensing of the _proprietary driver_. These > > drivers typically allow no-charge download directly from the vendor > > website, but the license includes terms th

Re: The Dell Latitude reality check

2011-02-16 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Wednesday, February 16, 2011 04:49:40 pm Patrick Goetz wrote: > At work we have an automated install system and use a highly customized > version of 10.10. For friends and family, I use the standard i386/amd64 > Ubuntu Desktop ISO to install Ubuntu on their machines. > > Recently, I decided to

Re: The Oracle debate. Possibly an over-reaction?

2010-12-25 Thread Scott Kitterman
"Chris Jones" wrote: >I know somewhere along the line Ubuntu is probably going to switch to >LibreOffice by default. But does that mean that with the future >inclusion of LO, it also means to future removal of OpenOffice from the >repositories? >If yes, can someone really explain why. > > >I've

Re: Sync Request process questions

2010-12-14 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Tuesday, December 14, 2010 02:34:10 pm Reuben Thomas wrote: > The implications from this are unfortunate: > > a. We will do nothing unless you prove in detail that the package can > be synced to Debian. This implication could be removed by simply > making the automatic response to a sync reques

Re: SSH and the Ubuntu Server

2010-11-18 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Wednesday, November 17, 2010 04:38:53 pm Dustin Kirkland wrote: > Q: Why not default the cursor on that question to "No", instead of "Yes"? > A: That totally bypasses the value of this proposal, and is only > microscopically better than what we currently have ... Dustin, I think this seriousl

Re: SSH and the Ubuntu Server

2010-11-18 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Thursday, November 18, 2010 04:21:42 am sam tygier wrote: > On 17/11/10 21:38, Dustin Kirkland wrote: > > This proposal requests that: > > 1) a new prompt be added to the Ubuntu Server installer > > 2) this prompt be dedicated to the boolean installation, or > > > > non-installation, of the

Re: I am looking for packages with checks

2010-11-10 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Wednesday, November 10, 2010 03:22:20 pm C de-Avillez wrote: > Hi, > > We currently daily build some packages that embed extensive tests in the > build process. I want to extend the tests for either build-time tests or > a binary that runs it. > > I am now looking for either: > > * packages w

Re: Mainstream Developers Repository

2010-11-01 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Saturday, October 30, 2010 02:35:21 pm Usama Akkad wrote: > Wa alaikum alsalam, > Bilal this is different from backports. for example Filezilla and Deluge > have no problem have more recent release on windows than Linux. You > already trust the developers of such applications. Why not help them

Re: maverick-proposed queue freeze

2010-10-27 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Tuesday, October 26, 2010 10:23:26 pm Andrew Starr-Bochicchio wrote: > On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 11:40 AM, Jamie Bennett > > wrote: > > Hi, > > > > According to the Linaro release process [1] the maverick-proposed queue > > will be frozen tomorrow. After this date no uploads should be accepted

Re: Maverick Alpha3 +nvidia-96 +updates

2010-10-18 Thread Scott Kitterman
"NoOp" wrote: >On 09/03/2010 05:31 AM, John Vivirito wrote: >... >> Nvidia upload may fix this problem but if you look at >> https://launchpad.net/bugs/616023 >> that will fix the abi problem and that is the most widely bug. >> it should be push through new by now if not than soon >> > >So he

Re: XDG Config Folders

2010-08-31 Thread Scott Kitterman
"Martin Owens" wrote: > > >On Wed, 2010-09-01 at 00:19 +0200, Krzysztof Klimonda wrote: >> For example you are saying that emails should go to the directory >> specified in user-dirs.[defaults,dirs] but that makes no sense uless >> we >> are thinking about $DOCUMENTS/.email_app/. Emails, while

Re: Firestarter (Chris Jones)

2010-08-30 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Monday, August 30, 2010 05:49:48 pm George Farris wrote: > On Mon, 2010-08-30 at 14:20 -0700, Robert Holtzman wrote: > > On Sat, Aug 28, 2010 at 09:22:40PM -0400, Greg Bair wrote: > > > On 08/28/2010 08:35 PM, Robert Holtzman wrote: > > > > I was under the impression that Firestarter was no long

Re: Firestarter

2010-08-29 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Sunday, August 29, 2010 05:10:38 pm Jim Kielman wrote: > There is a tool for setting firewall rules installed by default called > ufw, for those that need a graphical tool to set firewall rules, it's > just as easy to install gufw, as it is to install firestarter. > > The biggest problem is one

Re: Apache2 in default Ubuntu install

2010-08-12 Thread Scott Kitterman
"Harry Strongburg" wrote: >On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 09:34:24PM -0400, Scott Kitterman wrote: >> It's not in the default install. Look at the output of aptitude why >> apache2-mpm-prefork to see what pulled it in. > >So it just happened to have been auto-i

Re: Apache2 in default Ubuntu install

2010-08-12 Thread Scott Kitterman
"Harry Strongburg" wrote: >Why is apache2 in the default Ubuntu install? > >I upgraded from 9.10 to 10.04 LTS today, and the upgrade procedure installed >Apache2 onto my box, even though I have had it autoremoved for a long time. >It also did this on another server I upgraded, and that server

Re: Request for feedback: Developer Mentoring Program

2010-07-15 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Thursday, July 15, 2010 07:12:05 pm Scott Howard wrote: > Mentoring will occur in public channels (motu-mentors mailing list, > IRC, etc.), Mentoring should happen as part of the communication flow where the development work is happening. For MOTU, this would be in #ubuntu-motu or the ubunt

Re: how can i uninstall Plymouth, or replace it with Usplash?

2010-07-10 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Saturday, July 10, 2010 11:01:51 Paulo Silva wrote: > hi! > > maybe because Plymouth (Ubuntu 10.04 upgrade installed it, but i have > it disabled from StartupManager, i think), fsck is not providing that > so useful progressbar of filesystems checking. > > i have some questions about it: > >

Re: Ubuntu Branch reviewers

2010-07-09 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Monday, July 05, 2010 11:47:46 Bilal Akhtar wrote: > Hi all, > I think it would be a *lot* better to set the reviewer of all ubuntu > branches to ubuntu-sponsors. This would prevent confusion among people > who wish to fix bugs in Ubuntu or merge packages. Such people propose a > merge and the v

Re: How to use the new Launchpad status?

2010-07-07 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Wednesday, July 07, 2010 18:34:41 Micah Gersten wrote: > On 07/07/2010 01:08 PM, Scott Kitterman wrote: > > On Wednesday, July 07, 2010 13:17:19 Bruno Girin wrote: > >> On Wed, 2010-07-07 at 11:48 -0400, Scott Kitterman wrote: > >>> On Wednesday, July 07, 2010 11:2

Re: How to use the new Launchpad status?

2010-07-07 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Wednesday, July 07, 2010 13:17:19 Bruno Girin wrote: > On Wed, 2010-07-07 at 11:48 -0400, Scott Kitterman wrote: > > On Wednesday, July 07, 2010 11:29:36 Evan wrote: > > > On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 11:21 AM, Bruno Girin wrote: > > > > On Wed, 2010-07-07 at 09

Re: How to use the new Launchpad status?

2010-07-07 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Wednesday, July 07, 2010 11:29:36 Evan wrote: > On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 11:21 AM, Bruno Girin wrote: > > On Wed, 2010-07-07 at 09:53 -0500, Benjamin Root wrote: > >> Sounds like to me that it is a finer grained version of "Invalid". > >> The idea being that rather than possibly insulting the OP

Re: Ubuntu falling behind?

2010-06-25 Thread Scott Kitterman
"Ryan Dwyer" wrote: >On Sat, Jun 26, 2010 at 10:38 AM, Scott Kitterman wrote: > >> >> >> "Chris Jones" wrote: >> >> >I have to wonder whether Ubuntu updates are falling behind as time goes >> on. >> >It's now a

Re: Ubuntu falling behind?

2010-06-25 Thread Scott Kitterman
"Chris Jones" wrote: >I have to wonder whether Ubuntu updates are falling behind as time goes on. >It's now a good few days since Firefox 3.6.4 was released, yet Ubuntu's >version still sits at 3.6.3 for some odd reason. Yet I can boot up my neat >and trusty little Tiny Core Linux cd and to fin

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