On 04/07/2010 06:22 AM, Jonathan Blackhall wrote:
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> Another issue is with Rhythmbox. This is especially true for newer
> users. Let's say I just click the 'X' to quit, just like I do with
> Firefox or Calculator. I don't notice that the icon is still present
> in the Notification Area. It's
> Mind-boggling: yes. Lunatic: not necessarily :)
Yay!
>
> If I'm understanding you properly, the user should have no concept of
> services or processes. There is a single list of all applications,
> whether they are running with a window, running as a service, or not
> running at all.
> When the
On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 8:40 PM, Derek Broughton wrote:
> Evan wrote:
>
>> On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 7:57 PM, Dylan McCall
>> wrote:
>
>>> I chewed on this thought for a bit, and I think adding a "really
>>> close" button to a window would compromise what is _potentially_ a
>>> pretty well thought ou
Brandon Kuczenski wrote:
> Derek Broughton wrote:
>> John McCabe-Dansted wrote:
>>
>>> Maybe. But the paradigm isn't really that pressing the Close
>>> button minimizes the window to the systray.
>>
>> I beg to differ. Think as a user, not a developer. I submit that
>> _users_ do not generally
Evan wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 7:57 PM, Dylan McCall
> wrote:
>> I chewed on this thought for a bit, and I think adding a "really
>> close" button to a window would compromise what is _potentially_ a
>> pretty well thought out bit of UI. That's not to say it is well
>> thought out yet, but
On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 7:57 PM, Dylan McCall wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 8:39 PM, Jonathan Blackhall
> wrote:
>> It's very confusing for me when I click the big 'X' in my window controls,
>> only to find that the application I was attempting to close has since been
>> minimized to my system t
On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 8:39 PM, Jonathan Blackhall
wrote:
> It's very confusing for me when I click the big 'X' in my window controls,
> only to find that the application I was attempting to close has since been
> minimized to my system try (or notification area or its respective indicator
> apple
Derek Broughton wrote:
> John McCabe-Dansted wrote:
>
>> Maybe. But the paradigm isn't really that pressing the Close
>> button minimizes the window to the systray.
>
> I beg to differ. Think as a user, not a developer. I submit that _users_
> do not generally understand a difference between
John McCabe-Dansted wrote:
> Maybe. But the paradigm isn't really that pressing the Close
> button minimizes the window to the systray.
I beg to differ. Think as a user, not a developer. I submit that _users_
do not generally understand a difference between minimizing to the tray or
the task
On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 9:45 AM, Derek Broughton wrote:
>
> Neither do I - but for, apparently, opposite reasons. I don't understand
> why we need, or even want, "minimize to tray" and "minimize to task bar"
> (aargh, please don't push _my_ buttons, and write "minimise" :-) )
>
Sorry to be the sp
On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 9:45 AM, Derek Broughton wrote:
>
> Neither do I - but for, apparently, opposite reasons. I don't understand
> why we need, or even want, "minimize to tray" and "minimize to task bar"
> (aargh, please don't push _my_ buttons, and write "minimise" :-) )
>
OK. Both are correc
Davyd McColl wrote:
> For what my input is worth, I'd just like to point out that I'm one of
> those people who is annoyed when an app which runs in the systray *exits*
> when I close the interface window (main or otherwise). For apps that
> support the "minimise to tray" functionality instead of
On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 5:38 AM, Davyd McColl wrote:
> For what my input is worth, I'd just like to point out that I'm one of
> those people who is annoyed when an app which runs in the systray *exits*
> when I close the interface window (main or otherwise). For apps that support
> the "minimise t
For what my input is worth, I'd just like to point out that I'm one of those
people who is annoyed when an app which runs in the systray *exits* when I
close the interface window (main or otherwise). For apps that support the
"minimise to tray" functionality instead of "closing the window minimises
I think even better would be a different icon. Instead of an "X" it would be
a different icon designating that this button minimizes into the tray. That
way we would save on one more button and still have the feature we need.
On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 9:41 AM, Ryan Dwyer wrote:
>
> On Wed, Apr 7, 2
Jonathan Blackhall writes:
>> > Why must this be different in Rhythmbox?
>>
>> Think about Rhythmbox as some kind of service running in the
>> background. The window is just a user interface for that service that
>> you can close if you don't need it, without stopping the service.
>
> Ok, I'll gi
On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 9:22 AM, Jonathan Blackhall
wrote:
>> > Why must this be different in Rhythmbox?
>>
>> Think about Rhythmbox as some kind of service running in the
>> background. The window is just a user interface for that service that
>> you can close if you don't need it, without stoppin
> > Why must this be different in Rhythmbox?
>
> Think about Rhythmbox as some kind of service running in the
> background. The window is just a user interface for that service that
> you can close if you don't need it, without stopping the service.
Ok, I'll give you that it technically means 'clo
Hi Jonathan, *,
Jonathan Blackhall schrieb:
>It's very confusing for me when I click the big 'X' in my window
> controls, only to find that the application I was attempting to close
> has since been minimized to my system try (or notification area or
> its respective indicator applet or wherever
Jonathan Blackhall writes:
> It's very confusing for me when I click the big 'X' in my window controls,
> only to find that the application I was attempting to close has since been
> minimized to my system try (or notification area or its respective indicator
> applet or wherever it goes instead
On Tue, 2010-04-06 at 21:05 -0700, Akkana Peck wrote:
> Jonathan Blackhall writes:
> > It's very confusing for me when I click the big 'X' in my window controls,
> > only to find that the application I was attempting to close has since been
> > minimized to my system try (or notification area or it
On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 2:21 PM, Jonathan Blackhall wrote:
> > I like the new button idea. It could be only on applications that
> > could be minimized to the tray.
>
> The button has actually been discussed previously:
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/124326
>
> I actually don't think the new bu
> I like the new button idea. It could be only on applications that
> could be minimized to the tray.
The button has actually been discussed previously:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/124326
I actually don't think the new button is a particularly elegant or
ideal solution, but it also wouldn't b
Jonathan Blackhall writes:
> It's very confusing for me when I click the big 'X' in my window controls,
> only to find that the application I was attempting to close has since been
> minimized to my system try (or notification area or its respective indicator
> applet or wherever it goes instead of
On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 20:39, Jonathan Blackhall
wrote:
>
> It's very confusing for me when I click the big 'X' in my window controls,
> only to find that the application I was attempting to close has since been
> minimized to my system try (or notification area or its respective indicator
> ap
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