On Thursday, June 17, 2010 05:24:08 pm Michael Bienia wrote:
On 2010-06-17 16:58:12 -0400, Scott Kitterman wrote:
Michael Bienia mich...@bienia.de wrote:
On 2010-06-17 15:28:26 -0400, Scott Kitterman wrote:
This is pretty close to the UDS discussion. A number of Kubuntu people
wanted a
On 17.06.2010 23:11, Soren Hansen wrote:
On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 03:28:26PM -0400, Scott Kitterman wrote:
This is pretty close to the UDS discussion. A number of Kubuntu people
wanted a separate package set because, specifically, of people who
focused on these packages getting deferred from
On 17.06.2010 21:28, Scott Kitterman wrote:
Several people, myself included, argued against this since if we fragment
Universe too much, the potential set of MOTU recruits will narrow
significantly. We decided that it was perfectly OK for potential MOTU to be
somewhat focused as long as
On 2010-06-18 09:07:36 -0400, Scott Kitterman wrote:
I looked it up and it was
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ChristianMangold/MOTUDeveloperApplication
http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2010/04/27/%23ubuntu-meeting.html
Specifically, he was told by a DMB member that MOTU is for generalists and he
On 06/18/2010 09:46 AM, Michael Bienia wrote:
On 2010-06-18 09:07:36 -0400, Scott Kitterman wrote:
I looked it up and it was
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ChristianMangold/MOTUDeveloperApplication
http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2010/04/27/%23ubuntu-meeting.html
Specifically, he was told by a DMB
On Friday, June 18, 2010 09:28:31 am Daniel Holbach wrote:
I have worked with Fabrice before and I'm sorry for him to be center of
the discussion right now, I'm convinced he didn't want to push somebody
away.
Whatever else I think about this issue, I definitely agree with this. I meant
the
On 2010-06-18 13:00:17 -0400, Scott Kitterman wrote:
Kubuntu-dev only covers main.
That explains my mistake. So the kubuntu package set only covers the KDE
subset from main and allows Kubuntu developers to upload those without
being a core-dev. Any KDE packages that are in universe aren't part
On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 05:24:32PM -0400, Scott Kitterman wrote:
Soren Hansen so...@ubuntu.com wrote:
Again, I have to stress that noone was thrown out of #ubuntu-motu. A
more focused forum was simply pointed out.
I get that you think it's OK to tell people who want to be a MOTU to
go elsewhere
Soren Hansen so...@ubuntu.com wrote:
On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 05:24:32PM -0400, Scott Kitterman wrote:
Soren Hansen so...@ubuntu.com wrote:
Again, I have to stress that noone was thrown out of #ubuntu-motu. A
more focused forum was simply pointed out.
I get that you think it's OK to tell
On 06/16/2010 02:52 PM, Soren Hansen wrote:
This is not isolated to people working on KDE stuff. With the advent of
more and more package sets, people are more likely to get granted upload
privs to those rather than getting full MOTU or core-dev, since (at
least I'm reasonably sure this is
On 2010-06-17 08:17:04 -0400, Ralph Janke wrote:
On 06/16/2010 02:52 PM, Soren Hansen wrote:
This is not isolated to people working on KDE stuff. With the advent of
more and more package sets, people are more likely to get granted upload
privs to those rather than getting full MOTU or
On 17.06.2010 14:17, Ralph Janke wrote:
Furthermore, does that also mean that people that work primarily
on Gnome packages will have the same of similar restrictions?
There are no restrictions.
I never used Qt/KDE apps myself much, but I talked to a number of Qt/KDE
people and sponsored quite
On 2010-06-17 15:28:26 -0400, Scott Kitterman wrote:
This is pretty close to the UDS discussion. A number of Kubuntu people
wanted a separate package set because, specifically, of people who
focused on these packages getting deferred from MOTU because the had
worked too much on KDE stuff.
Do
On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 03:28:26PM -0400, Scott Kitterman wrote:
This is pretty close to the UDS discussion. A number of Kubuntu people
wanted a separate package set because, specifically, of people who
focused on these packages getting deferred from MOTU because the had
worked too much on KDE
On 2010-06-17 16:58:12 -0400, Scott Kitterman wrote:
Michael Bienia mich...@bienia.de wrote:
On 2010-06-17 15:28:26 -0400, Scott Kitterman wrote:
This is pretty close to the UDS discussion. A number of Kubuntu people
wanted a separate package set because, specifically, of people who
On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 10:03:52PM -0400, Scott Kitterman wrote:
Today in my backscroll I see:
[15:13:58] fabrice_sp shadeslayer, what do you want?
[...]
[15:29:16] shadeslayer fabrice_sp: that package was sponsored by maco in
#kubuntu-devel :P
This is completely inappropriate. Let me
Soren Hansen so...@ubuntu.com wrote:
On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 10:03:52PM -0400, Scott Kitterman wrote:
Today in my backscroll I see:
[15:13:58] fabrice_sp shadeslayer, what do you want?
[...]
[15:29:16] shadeslayer fabrice_sp: that package was sponsored by maco in
#kubuntu-devel :P
I think you are mislead by the term Masters of the Universe. At no
point is everyone in #ubuntu-motu a domain specific expert on every
facet of every type of package. For expert advice, you probably want
to join channels dedicated to that subject.
I see MOTU as a channel for general questions
On 16.06.2010 16:10, ubu...@kitterman.com wrote:
The part where someone is told because the package name starts with q,
#ubuntu-motu is the wrong channel. The person doing the asking is in fact
very active in #kubuntu-devel, but was reaching out to MOTU to try and
broaden themselves when
On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 10:10:53AM -0400, ubu...@kitterman.com wrote:
On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 10:03:52PM -0400, Scott Kitterman wrote:
Today in my backscroll I see:
[15:13:58] fabrice_sp shadeslayer, what do you want?
[...]
[15:29:16] shadeslayer fabrice_sp: that package was sponsored by
On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 01:44:39PM -0400, Scott Kitterman wrote:
The conversation didn't start with help me with this package. It
started with I want to be a MOTU.
My read is someone who said they wanted to become a MOTU was sent away
and that's not very Ubuntu. #kubuntu-devel is not the best
On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 01:44:39PM -0400, Scott Kitterman wrote:
The conversation didn't start with help me with this package. It
started with I want to be a MOTU.
True.
My read is someone who said they wanted to become a MOTU was sent away
and that's not very Ubuntu. #kubuntu-devel is not
Soren Hansen so...@ubuntu.com wrote:
On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 01:44:39PM -0400, Scott Kitterman wrote:
The conversation didn't start with help me with this package. It
started with I want to be a MOTU.
True.
My read is someone who said they wanted to become a MOTU was sent away
and that's
Ar Mer, 2010-06-16 am 17:24 -0400, ysgrifennodd Scott Kitterman:
I get that you think it's OK to tell people who want to be a MOTU to go
elsewhere if they express an interest in a KDE/Qt packages.
I disagree.
Scott K
Scott, in this conversation from what I have read in the thread
Christopher Swift christopher.sw...@linux.com wrote:
Ar Mer, 2010-06-16 am 17:24 -0400, ysgrifennodd Scott Kitterman:
I get that you think it's OK to tell people who want to be a MOTU to go
elsewhere if they express an interest in a KDE/Qt packages.
I disagree.
Scott K
Scott, in
Ar Mer, 2010-06-16 am 18:47 -0400, ysgrifennodd Scott Kitterman:
Christopher Swift christopher.sw...@linux.com wrote:
Ar Mer, 2010-06-16 am 17:24 -0400, ysgrifennodd Scott Kitterman:
I get that you think it's OK to tell people who want to be a MOTU to go
elsewhere if they express an
If the situation were that he was asking for help with a specific package,
then I would agree.
Scott K
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We had a session at UDS on the idea of creating a separate package set for
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