Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] What should be included by default in Trusty?

2014-02-16 Thread Len Ovens
Entangle - For camera tethering. I just purchaced a DLSR and have been playing around with that. DSLRs have so much stuff on them... settings and other things. A tethhering program allows control of the whole camera from the computer. It allows previewing a shot from a large screen instead of

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] What should be included by default in Trusty?

2014-02-13 Thread Len Ovens
On Thu, 13 Feb 2014, Len Ovens wrote: On Thu, 13 Feb 2014, Mike Holstein wrote: On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 9:30 AM, Len Ovens wrote: On Wed, 12 Feb 2014, lukefro...@hushmail.com wrote: Kdenlive is capable of recording from webcams, I don't have p

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] What should be included by default in Trusty?

2014-02-13 Thread Len Ovens
On Thu, 13 Feb 2014, Mike Holstein wrote: On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 9:30 AM, Len Ovens wrote: On Wed, 12 Feb 2014, lukefro...@hushmail.com wrote: Kdenlive is capable of recording from webcams, I don't have plug-in realtime Tried this using a V4L

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] What should be included by default in Trusty?

2014-02-13 Thread lukefromdc
A straight PCM file for audio can be 50MB for a few minutes, many websites refuse them because of their size and on a mobile connection people can't spare the bandwidth. There are also uncompressed video files, in 1080p they are so big they cannot be played back from a single hard drive in some ca

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] What should be included by default in Trusty?

2014-02-13 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Thu, 2014-02-13 at 15:06 -0500, lukefro...@hushmail.com wrote: > I don't know of any video codec which can be played on a default install of > Windows > XP, a default install of say, Ubuntu Dapper, and gives any reasonable degree > of > compression. > > At any event, the whole point of free

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] What should be included by default in Trusty?

2014-02-13 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Thu, 2014-02-13 at 21:05 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Thu, 2014-02-13 at 21:04 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > On Thu, 2014-02-13 at 14:59 -0500, lukefro...@hushmail.com wrote: > > > everything I publish must be playable on a WinXP machine > > > > + on a completely FLOSS Linux machine. >

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] What should be included by default in Trusty?

2014-02-13 Thread lukefromdc
I don't know of any video codec which can be played on a default install of Windows XP, a default install of say, Ubuntu Dapper, and gives any reasonable degree of compression. At any event, the whole point of free software is that I decide what to do with my computers, nobody else does. On 0

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] What should be included by default in Trusty?

2014-02-13 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Thu, 2014-02-13 at 21:04 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Thu, 2014-02-13 at 14:59 -0500, lukefro...@hushmail.com wrote: > > everything I publish must be playable on a WinXP machine > > + on a completely FLOSS Linux machine. ^^^one > Really, XP is a Windows I care about, but more important a

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] What should be included by default in Trusty?

2014-02-13 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Thu, 2014-02-13 at 14:59 -0500, lukefro...@hushmail.com wrote: > everything I publish must be playable on a WinXP machine + on a completely FLOSS Linux machine. Really, XP is a Windows I care about, but more important are Linux machines, even without the proprietary flashplayer that still is a

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] What should be included by default in Trusty?

2014-02-13 Thread lukefromdc
I have no choice but to use H264 because my camera outputs in those files. Not being employed, I do not have the option of discarding and replacing cameras. Therefore, I do not use the stripped version of ffmpeg, and that's not going to change. We lost the fight to kill the patented codecs outrig

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] What should be included by default in Trusty?

2014-02-13 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Thu, 2014-02-13 at 14:47 -0500, lukefro...@hushmail.com wrote: > Writers of applications should be discouraged from using patented anything > that they > could reasonably have avoided, and doubly discouraged from using non-free > licenses. I agree with distros refusing to distribute software

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] What should be included by default in Trusty?

2014-02-13 Thread lukefromdc
Writers of applications should be discouraged from using patented anything that they could reasonably have avoided, and doubly discouraged from using non-free licenses. I agree with distros refusing to distribute software that voluntariliy uses patented algorithms or non-free licenses. After al

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] What should be included by default in Trusty?

2014-02-13 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Thu, 2014-02-13 at 20:06 +0100, Antoine Thomas wrote: > Cinellera depends on patented codecs and techno. The code itself is > open source but you can't build it and distribute it. > > This is the same for linuxsampler and steinbetg's vst technologie Amen! _But_ different countries = different

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] What should be included by default in Trusty?

2014-02-13 Thread lukefromdc
I don't know. Right now I have NO machines with working webcams, when I did there was about 1 sec latency but I figured that was the camera itself, rather like some security cameras. I do not do any kind of live work because of bandwidth issues, and always select cameras to shoot to camera cards

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] What should be included by default in Trusty?

2014-02-13 Thread Antoine Thomas
Cinellera depends on patented codecs and techno. The code itself is open source but you can't build it and distribute it. This is the same for linuxsampler and steinbetg's vst technologie Le 13 févr. 2014 19:43, "Ralf Mardorf" a écrit : > On Thu, 2014-02-13 at 19:40 +0100, Jimmy Sjölund wrote: >

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] What should be included by default in Trusty?

2014-02-13 Thread Ralf Mardorf
JFTR if you e.g. have Qtractor with VST support from official repositories, than it's not compiled with Steinnberg's headers and likely will miss VST features. When I was a Qtractor tester I compiled using Steinberg's headers, but I never used VSTs, so today, only a user, I don't care and use Qtrac

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] What should be included by default in Trusty?

2014-02-13 Thread Mike Holstein
On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 1:39 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > There are third party Debian repositories for LinuxSampler and likely > for Cinelerra too. Please Kaj, take a look at licenses and Debian's > policy before you recommend that people should package some software for > the official Debian reposi

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] What should be included by default in Trusty?

2014-02-13 Thread Kaj Ailomaa
On Thu, Feb 13, 2014, at 07:39 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > There are third party Debian repositories for LinuxSampler and likely > for Cinelerra too. Please Kaj, take a look at licenses and Debian's > policy before you recommend that people should package some software for > the official Debian rep

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] What should be included by default in Trusty?

2014-02-13 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Thu, 2014-02-13 at 19:40 +0100, Jimmy Sjölund wrote: > On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 7:33 PM, Ralf Mardorf > wrote: > On Thu, 2014-02-13 at 19:21 +0100, Kaj Ailomaa wrote: > > Cinerella is not in our repos, so we can't include it. > Someone needs > > to package it for

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] What should be included by default in Trusty?

2014-02-13 Thread Jimmy Sjölund
On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 7:33 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Thu, 2014-02-13 at 19:21 +0100, Kaj Ailomaa wrote: > > Cinerella is not in our repos, so we can't include it. Someone needs > > to package it for Debian, and that way it could be included. > > Different countries, different laws, IOW Cinele

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] What should be included by default in Trusty?

2014-02-13 Thread Ralf Mardorf
There are third party Debian repositories for LinuxSampler and likely for Cinelerra too. Please Kaj, take a look at licenses and Debian's policy before you recommend that people should package some software for the official Debian repositories. LinuxSampler and Cinelerra can't be part of the Debian

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] What should be included by default in Trusty?

2014-02-13 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Thu, 2014-02-13 at 19:21 +0100, Kaj Ailomaa wrote: > Cinerella is not in our repos, so we can't include it. Someone needs > to package it for Debian, and that way it could be included. Different countries, different laws, IOW Cinelerra was and perhaps still is and likely will be a nominee for s

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] What should be included by default in Trusty?

2014-02-13 Thread Kaj Ailomaa
On Thu, Feb 13, 2014, at 04:00 PM, Rômulo Xavier Olivieri Meier wrote: > Include > Cinelerra > Openshot > SubtSubtitle editor > Vlc > Em 12/02/2014 12:28, "Kaj Ailomaa" escreveu: > First of all, I hope people have realized by now that what we are talking about is what packages should be in Ub

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] What should be included by default in Trusty?

2014-02-13 Thread Rômulo Xavier Olivieri Meier
Include Cinelerra Openshot SubtSubtitle editor Vlc Em 12/02/2014 12:28, "Kaj Ailomaa" escreveu: > Opinions on what we should or should not include for Ubuntu Studio > Trusty, and why? > > plugins, applications, tools, fonts, etc, etc... > > -- > ubuntu-studio-devel mailing list > ubuntu-studio-d

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] What should be included by default in Trusty?

2014-02-13 Thread Mike Holstein
On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 10:00 AM, Rômulo Xavier Olivieri Meier < romuloxavier...@gmail.com> wrote: > Include > Cinelerra > Openshot > SubtSubtitle editor > Vlc > would you mind to address the teams that create these products and discuss with them why ubuntu cant include them? and see if they are

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] What should be included by default in Trusty?

2014-02-13 Thread Mike Holstein
On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 10:00 AM, Rômulo Xavier Olivieri Meier < romuloxavier...@gmail.com> wrote: > Include > Cinelerra > Openshot > SubtSubtitle editor > Vlc > Em 12/02/2014 12:28, "Kaj Ailomaa" escreveu: > > Opinions on what we should or should not include for Ubuntu Studio >> Trusty, and why

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] What should be included by default in Trusty?

2014-02-13 Thread Mike Holstein
On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 9:30 AM, Len Ovens wrote: > > On Wed, 12 Feb 2014, lukefro...@hushmail.com wrote: >> >> Kdenlive is capable of recording from webcams, I don't have plug-in >>> realtime >>> cameras but if offer "Firewire," "ffmpeg"(via /dev/vdideo0 and >>> video4Linux2), >>> "Screen Grab

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] What should be included by default in Trusty?

2014-02-13 Thread Len Ovens
On Wed, 12 Feb 2014, lukefro...@hushmail.com wrote: Kdenlive is capable of recording from webcams, I don't have plug-in realtime cameras but if offer "Firewire," "ffmpeg"(via /dev/vdideo0 and video4Linux2), "Screen Grab," and "Blackmagic" recording options Tried this using a V4L device. VL

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] What should be included by default in Trusty?

2014-02-13 Thread ttoine
2014-02-13 9:53 GMT+01:00 Kaj Ailomaa : > > > On Thu, Feb 13, 2014, at 03:28 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > On Wed, 2014-02-12 at 23:50 +0100, Kaj Ailomaa wrote: > > > To the best of my knowledge, there is nothing preventing adding > > > linux-sampler to a non-free repo, just as one can add things li

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] What should be included by default in Trusty?

2014-02-13 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Thu, 2014-02-13 at 09:53 +0100, Kaj Ailomaa wrote: > > On Thu, Feb 13, 2014, at 03:28 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > On Wed, 2014-02-12 at 23:50 +0100, Kaj Ailomaa wrote: > > > To the best of my knowledge, there is nothing preventing adding > > > linux-sampler to a non-free repo, just as one can a

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] What should be included by default in Trusty?

2014-02-13 Thread Kaj Ailomaa
On Thu, Feb 13, 2014, at 03:28 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Wed, 2014-02-12 at 23:50 +0100, Kaj Ailomaa wrote: > > To the best of my knowledge, there is nothing preventing adding > > linux-sampler to a non-free repo, just as one can add things like > > flashplayer and nvidia drivers. > > You're

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] What should be included by default in Trusty?

2014-02-12 Thread Len Ovens
On Wed, 12 Feb 2014, lukefro...@hushmail.com wrote: Kdenlive is capable of recording from webcams, I don't have plug-in realtime cameras but if offer "Firewire," "ffmpeg"(via /dev/vdideo0 and video4Linux2), "Screen Grab," and "Blackmagic" recording options I'll have to try that. LiVES is not

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] What should be included by default in Trusty?

2014-02-12 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Wed, 2014-02-12 at 23:50 +0100, Kaj Ailomaa wrote: > To the best of my knowledge, there is nothing preventing adding > linux-sampler to a non-free repo, just as one can add things like > flashplayer and nvidia drivers. You're mistaken. There is difference between non-free and a _violated_ GPL2.

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] What should be included by default in Trusty?

2014-02-12 Thread lukefromdc
Kdenlive is capable of recording from webcams, I don't have plug-in realtime cameras but if offer "Firewire," "ffmpeg"(via /dev/vdideo0 and video4Linux2), "Screen Grab," and "Blackmagic" recording options On 02/12/2014 at 6:49 PM, "Len Ovens" wrote: > >On Wed, 12 Feb 2014, lukefro...@hushmail.com

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] What should be included by default in Trusty?

2014-02-12 Thread lukefromdc
If web server software is included by default, that opens to door to security issues on non-webhosting machines. If I hosted my videos locally, I certainly would not use the same box on which I handle raw video clips (not all of which can be released!) to run the server. On 02/12/2014 at 6:44 PM,

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] What should be included by default in Trusty?

2014-02-12 Thread Len Ovens
We have right now only an installer for libre office, should we add all or part of it? I was thinking writer for the (e)book publishing workflow. -- Len Ovens www.ovenwerks.net -- ubuntu-studio-devel mailing list ubuntu-studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] What should be included by default in Trusty?

2014-02-12 Thread Len Ovens
On Wed, 12 Feb 2014, lukefro...@hushmail.com wrote: Kdenlive assuming no issue comes along to prevent it from building. It may not Kdenlive is already included. It is what I use for any "little" bit of video editing I do. It really is a very small amount, video just isn't my thing. I do end

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] What should be included by default in Trusty?

2014-02-12 Thread Len Ovens
On Wed, 12 Feb 2014, helios martinez dominguez wrote: They are tools to **PUBLISH CONTENT*** They also interfere with creating content which is _our_ focus. Old computers are easy to find mostly free. Drop ubuntu server on any of them and all those things get added. on another

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] What should be included by default in Trusty?

2014-02-12 Thread Len Ovens
On Wed, 12 Feb 2014, helios martinez dominguez wrote: Apache -- HTTP Server Squid -- Caching proxy for the Web OpenLDAP -- Open source Lightweight Directory Access Protocol Bind 9 -- Domain Name Server Personally I would nix all of these. These are all servers that run in the back ground

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] What should be included by default in Trusty?

2014-02-12 Thread Len Ovens
On Wed, 12 Feb 2014, Marco BRUNO wrote: A very interesting tools is "CADENCE" used in kxstudio. unlike qtjack in my opinion is much more intuitive. Cadence is on the list waiting for a debian package. I can see no reason not to add it when it becomes available. I guess I am quite used to qt

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] What should be included by default in Trusty?

2014-02-12 Thread Kaj Ailomaa
To the best of my knowledge, there is nothing preventing adding linux-sampler to a non-free repo, just as one can add things like flashplayer and nvidia drivers. But, I haven't tried to get it in, and from what I've seen, no one else has gone through with it either. As for the selection of default

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] What should be included by default in Trusty?

2014-02-12 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Wed, 2014-02-12 at 16:09 -0500, lukefro...@hushmail.com wrote: > At any rate, Cinelerra is not yet in Ubuntu's repos, only available > from a ppa. There are licenses issues for Cinelerra. -- ubuntu-studio-devel mailing list ubuntu-studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] What should be included by default in Trusty?

2014-02-12 Thread lukefromdc
I have used Cinelerra, it has two problems: One is a clunky, harder to learn GUI. That's not too bad as many pro video editors have similar issues. The other is this: it has not kept up with changing formats produced by common cameras. I still have the version I got during Precise (2012) so I d

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] What should be included by default in Trusty?

2014-02-12 Thread Jimmy Sjölund
> On 12 feb 2014, at 15:28, Kaj Ailomaa wrote: > > Opinions on what we should or should not include for Ubuntu Studio > Trusty, and why? > > plugins, applications, tools, fonts, etc, etc... Not for 14.04 but in the future I would like to include applications like/similar to Scrivener and Trelby.

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] What should be included by default in Trusty?

2014-02-12 Thread Jimmy Sjölund
> On 12 feb 2014, at 21:20, Mike Holstein wrote: > > /me +1 kdenlive ... anyone else using anything that is relevant for video > production? > > relevant = legally viable, currently in the repos, No, I use kdenlive for everything. I thought it was a given and not something that would get removed.

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] What should be included by default in Trusty?

2014-02-12 Thread helios martinez dominguez
KDEnlive -- Free and open-source video editor Have never used it, but heard lots about it. Include an .iso with media produced with only ubuntu studio created content. Helios Martínez Domínguez (*Helivs Von Veritas*) http://helios.vze.com reverbnation

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] What should be included by default in Trusty?

2014-02-12 Thread Mike Holstein
/me +1 kdenlive ... anyone else using anything that is relevant for video production? relevant = legally viable, currently in the repos, On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 3:18 PM, wrote: > Kdenlive assuming no issue comes along to prevent it from building. It may > not > get new development for a while

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] What should be included by default in Trusty?

2014-02-12 Thread Ralf Mardorf
> Celestia -- Real-Time 3D Astronomy Simulation Explorer > FreeBASIC -- GPL 32-bit BASIC compiler > PicLinux -- PIC microcontrollers development 3 examples of farfetched software for ubuntu studio. > Eagle -- PCB Design Even if Eagle shouldn't be farfetched, the license might cause issues for a

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] What should be included by default in Trusty?

2014-02-12 Thread lukefromdc
Kdenlive assuming no issue comes along to prevent it from building. It may not get new development for a while as the developer had to take a break and next up is a huge refactoring program, but at version 0.9.6 right now it performs very well and is regarded by many as simply the best video edito

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] What should be included by default in Trusty?

2014-02-12 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Wed, 2014-02-12 at 18:35 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Wed, 2014-02-12 at 11:10 -0500, Mike Holstein wrote: > > > > > > > > On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 10:54 AM, Ralf Mardorf > > wrote: > > On Wed, 2014-02-12 at 16:47 +0100, Kaj Ailomaa wrote: > > > linux-sampler is GPL with an

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] What should be included by default in Trusty?

2014-02-12 Thread Jimmy Sjölund
On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 6:13 PM, helios martinez dominguez < helios.martinez.doming...@gmail.com> wrote: > Eagle -- PCB Design > > PCB -- Printed Circuit Board Layout Tool > > > Celestia -- Real-Time 3D Astronomy Simulation > E

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] What should be included by default in Trusty?

2014-02-12 Thread Mike Holstein
On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 12:59 PM, helios martinez dominguez < helios.martinez.doming...@gmail.com> wrote: > They are tools to ***PUBLISH CONTENT > > > great!.. and i say, its not part of the core of ubuntustudio.. its just my "vote' and opinion.. and its not targeted at publish

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] What should be included by default in Trusty?

2014-02-12 Thread helios martinez dominguez
They are tools to ***PUBLISH CONTENT Helios Martínez Domínguez (*Helivs Von Veritas*) http://helios.vze.com reverbnation +34 657 633 848 2014-02-12 18:57 GMT+01:00 Mike Holstein : > > > > On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 12:51 PM, helios mart

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] What should be included by default in Trusty?

2014-02-12 Thread Mike Holstein
On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 12:51 PM, helios martinez dominguez < helios.martinez.doming...@gmail.com> wrote: > *They are deeply related to Media Production as media publishing tools* > > and, so far, that has not been the focus of ubuntustudio "out of the box".. those are not tools that create conten

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] What should be included by default in Trusty?

2014-02-12 Thread helios martinez dominguez
PureData -- Open source visual programming language Helios Martínez Domínguez (*Helivs Von Veritas*) http://helios.vze.com reverbnation +34 657 633 848 2014-02-12 18:52 GMT+01:00 Mike Holstein : > > > > On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 12

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] What should be included by default in Trusty?

2014-02-12 Thread Mike Holstein
On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 12:35 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Wed, 2014-02-12 at 11:10 -0500, Mike Holstein wrote: > > > > > > > > On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 10:54 AM, Ralf Mardorf > > wrote: > > On Wed, 2014-02-12 at 16:47 +0100, Kaj Ailomaa wrote: > > > linux-sampler is GPL with an ad

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] What should be included by default in Trusty?

2014-02-12 Thread helios martinez dominguez
*They are deeply related to Media Production as media publishing tools* Helios Martínez Domínguez (*Helivs Von Veritas*) http://helios.vze.com reverbnation +34 657 633 848 2014-02-12 18:49 GMT+01:00 Mike Holstein : > > > > On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 12:41

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] What should be included by default in Trusty?

2014-02-12 Thread Mike Holstein
On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 12:41 PM, helios martinez dominguez < helios.martinez.doming...@gmail.com> wrote: > Apache -- HTTP Server > > Squid -- Caching proxy for the Web > > OpenLDAP -- Open source Lightweight Directory Access > Protocol

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] What should be included by default in Trusty?

2014-02-12 Thread helios martinez dominguez
EXCLUDE*** MySQL -- Popular open-source database Helios Martínez Domínguez (*Helivs Von Veritas*) http://helios.vze.com reverbnation

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] What should be included by default in Trusty?

2014-02-12 Thread helios martinez dominguez
Apache -- HTTP Server Squid -- Caching proxy for the Web OpenLDAP -- Open source Lightweight Directory Access Protocol Bind 9 -- Domain Name Server Helios Martínez Domínguez (*Helivs Vo

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] What should be included by default in Trusty?

2014-02-12 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Wed, 2014-02-12 at 11:10 -0500, Mike Holstein wrote: > > > > On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 10:54 AM, Ralf Mardorf > wrote: > On Wed, 2014-02-12 at 16:47 +0100, Kaj Ailomaa wrote: > > linux-sampler is GPL with an addition > > > This addition is an issue. It

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] What should be included by default in Trusty?

2014-02-12 Thread helios martinez dominguez
Eagle -- PCB Design ​ PCB -- Printed Circuit Board Layout Tool ​ ​ ​Celestia -- Real-Time 3D Astronomy Simulation Explorer ​ ​ ​ ​​ OptGe​​o -- Optics Simulator (French Language)

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] What should be included by default in Trusty?

2014-02-12 Thread Mike Holstein
On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 10:54 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Wed, 2014-02-12 at 16:47 +0100, Kaj Ailomaa wrote: > > linux-sampler is GPL with an addition > > This addition is an issue. It never will make it's way into the official > Debian repos, more likely jackd someday will be removed from the >

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] What should be included by default in Trusty?

2014-02-12 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Wed, 2014-02-12 at 16:47 +0100, Kaj Ailomaa wrote: > linux-sampler is GPL with an addition This addition is an issue. It never will make it's way into the official Debian repos, more likely jackd someday will be removed from the official Debian repos too ;). End of last year or beginning of thi

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] What should be included by default in Trusty?

2014-02-12 Thread Kaj Ailomaa
As holstein says, we only include packages from the repos. If someone wants to include linux-sampler, one can package it and have it uploaded in Debian. Same goes for other applications. linux-sampler is GPL with an addition making it non free. Should not be a problem getting it into the Debian no

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] What should be included by default in Trusty?

2014-02-12 Thread Mike Holstein
On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 10:35 AM, Marco BRUNO wrote: > A very interesting tools is "*CADENCE*" used in kxstudio. unlike qtjack in > my opinion is much more intuitive. > Another software that we use for our web radio *IDJC *is present (not in > the latest version) in the ubuntu repos. > Another ne

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] What should be included by default in Trusty?

2014-02-12 Thread Marco BRUNO
A very interesting tools is "*CADENCE*" used in kxstudio. unlike qtjack in my opinion is much more intuitive. Another software that we use for our web radio *IDJC *is present (not in the latest version) in the ubuntu repos. Another need that comes to mind is a software for the management of *tags *

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] What should be included by default in Trusty?

2014-02-12 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Wed, 2014-02-12 at 16:21 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Wed, 2014-02-12 at 15:28 +0100, Kaj Ailomaa wrote: > > Opinions on what we should or should not include for Ubuntu Studio > > Trusty, and why? > > > > plugins, applications, tools, fonts, etc, etc... > > How strict is the license policy?

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] What should be included by default in Trusty?

2014-02-12 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Wed, 2014-02-12 at 15:28 +0100, Kaj Ailomaa wrote: > Opinions on what we should or should not include for Ubuntu Studio > Trusty, and why? > > plugins, applications, tools, fonts, etc, etc... How strict is the license policy? http://www.linuxsampler.org/downloads.html -- ubuntu-studio-de