Re: [ubuntu-uk] Not everyone is an expert!

2013-08-22 Thread Gareth France
On 22/08/13 22:57, Paul Sutton wrote: I am beginning to think promoting it as a Linux meeting may put people off, comparing how many goto the exeter pi jams to exeter lug meets (far more at the former), so it may be worth looking in to how you name it, computer group meeting, covers Windows, M

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Not everyone is an expert!

2013-08-22 Thread Paul Sutton
On 22/08/13 15:59, Gareth France wrote: > >>> It's not just here. I have seen this in other online forums. It seems >>> that when you require the help the most is when certain individuals >>> have the least patience. I shall continue to lurk but I'm afraid that >>> my enthusiasm for engaging in con

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Not everyone is an expert!

2013-08-22 Thread Muñiz Piniella , Andrés
you? Colin >>> High Wycombe, South Bucks. There are meetings in Reading, Oxford, Milton >>> Keynes but nothing I would consider local. >> >> OK, no good me applying to join from 150 miles away then :) >> >> Colin >> > I think you made my point very nicely. The initial steps should be

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Not everyone is an expert!

2013-08-22 Thread Gareth France
On 22/08/13 20:13, Colin Law wrote: On 22 August 2013 18:33, Gareth France wrote: On 22/08/13 17:21, Colin Law wrote: On 22 August 2013 16:31, Gareth France wrote: Gareth, There is nothing to stop you organising it, sending a link out to date / time of the meet up here if you so chose, it'

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Not everyone is an expert!

2013-08-22 Thread Colin Law
On 22 August 2013 18:33, Gareth France wrote: > On 22/08/13 17:21, Colin Law wrote: >> >> On 22 August 2013 16:31, Gareth France wrote: Gareth, There is nothing to stop you organising it, sending a link out to date / time of the meet up here if you so chose, it's an Ubun

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Anybody seen this, thought it might be shown, as nobody has mentioned it on here yet.....

2013-08-22 Thread Peter Maddison
Thanks, I don't know what his problem is? Pete From: clan...@googlemail.com Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2013 11:25:05 +0100 To: ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] Anybody seen this, thought it might be shown, as nobody has mentioned it on here yet. On 21 August 2013 10:13, scoundrel

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Anybody seen this, thought it might be shown, as nobody has mentioned it on here yet.....

2013-08-22 Thread Peter Maddison
Are you referring to the guy who wrote the piece or my reply?If my piece, what's wrong with it? Pete Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2013 10:13:18 +0100 From: scoundrel...@gmail.com To: ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] Anybody seen this, thought it might be shown, as nobody has mentioned

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Anybody seen this, thought it might be shown, as nobody has mentioned it on here yet.....

2013-08-22 Thread Peter Maddison
Yep, that's exactly what I meant, if you don't use the 'official' repo then you're open to all manner of 'nasties' ready to infect your PC. Pete M ( :-P ) > To: ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com > From: psmo...@live.com > Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2013 09:34:31 +0100 > Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] Anybody seen th

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Not everyone is an expert!

2013-08-22 Thread Gareth France
On 22/08/13 17:21, Colin Law wrote: On 22 August 2013 16:31, Gareth France wrote: Gareth, There is nothing to stop you organising it, sending a link out to date / time of the meet up here if you so chose, it's an Ubuntu mailing list so I assume the meet up would be Ubuntu related of some kind

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Not everyone is an expert!

2013-08-22 Thread Colin Law
On 22 August 2013 16:31, Gareth France wrote: > >> Gareth, >> >> There is nothing to stop you organising it, sending a link out to date / >> time of the meet up here if you so chose, it's an Ubuntu mailing list so I >> assume the meet up would be Ubuntu related of some kind, perhaps you could >>

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Not everyone is an expert!

2013-08-22 Thread Gareth France
Gareth, There is nothing to stop you organising it, sending a link out to date / time of the meet up here if you so chose, it's an Ubuntu mailing list so I assume the meet up would be Ubuntu related of some kind, perhaps you could add the event to the loco team portal. Laura Yes thank yo

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Not everyone is an expert!

2013-08-22 Thread Laura Czajkowski
On 22/08/13 15:59, Gareth France wrote: I am in a dead area for user groups and would like to start one up. I feel it would be a great help to have something physical where people can go for help, support and encouragement. However whenever I mention this and try to push for it I just get h

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Not everyone is an expert!

2013-08-22 Thread Gareth France
It's not just here. I have seen this in other online forums. It seems that when you require the help the most is when certain individuals have the least patience. I shall continue to lurk but I'm afraid that my enthusiasm for engaging in conversation is not what it once was. I second this, I

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Has anybody seen this and what do you think......

2013-08-22 Thread Paul Sutton
On 31/07/13 20:42, Pete wrote: > I guess most if not everyone out there know that Governments use > Windows XP (Uk Gov't) and that it costs quite a huge amount to pay in > bulk licenses, including local councils. Does anyone know how much > these bulk licenses cost and how many the UK Gov't have? >

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Problems with a freezing machine: All kernels in 12.04 and 13.04

2013-08-22 Thread J Fernyhough
On 22 August 2013 14:30, James Morrissey wrote: > If i uninstall bcmwl-kernel-source, which of the following packages > do i need to install in order to get my wireless working: > firmware-b43-installer, firmware-b43-lppy-installer, b43-fwcutter, and/or > firmware-b43legacy-installer. I ask becaus

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Problems with a freezing machine: All kernels in 12.04 and 13.04

2013-08-22 Thread Liam Proven
On 22 August 2013 14:36, James Morrissey wrote: > I have a windows partition on my HDD, but only really keep it there so that > i can run the BIOS update utility from Lenovo. The partition is only really > big enough to do that - i am not sure i could fit a LibreOffice or even > anti-virus install

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Problems with a freezing machine: All kernels in 12.04 and 13.04

2013-08-22 Thread James Morrissey
On 22 August 2013 15:04, Liam Proven wrote: > > > * does the problem only occur under Linux? > > If you have any other OS on the machine, use that for a while and see > if it suffers the problem as well. Windows is the obvious candidate, > but there are other potential ones as well - Mac OS X, PC

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Problems with a freezing machine: All kernels in 12.04 and 13.04

2013-08-22 Thread James Morrissey
On 22 August 2013 15:00, J Fernyhough wrote: > > On 22/08/13 13:21, James Morrissey wrote: > > > --snip-- > > > > The fact that there was a wireless problem on Broadcom BCM43228 and that > the > > freeze appears to correlate with having the machine on battery power (i > am > > > > This sounds lik

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Problems with a freezing machine: All kernels in 12.04 and 13.04

2013-08-22 Thread James Morrissey
On 22 August 2013 14:46, Martin Dixon wrote: > Hi James. > > For what it is worth I had a similar problem with 12.04 and 12.10 and > found the only solution was to reinstall 12.10 and refrain from doing any > updates. > 13.04 works OK with all updates loaded, but I used both with a Ubuntu One >

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Problems with a freezing machine: All kernels in 12.04 and 13.04

2013-08-22 Thread Liam Proven
On 22 August 2013 13:21, James Morrissey wrote: > I am wondering if someone can help me with a major problem that i have been > having in Ubuntu, pertaining to a notoriously hard to diagnose issue of > random freezing. That's nasty. :¬( Unfortunately, intermittent problems are always very hard

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Problems with a freezing machine: All kernels in 12.04 and 13.04

2013-08-22 Thread J Fernyhough
> On 22/08/13 13:21, James Morrissey wrote: > --snip-- > > The fact that there was a wireless problem on Broadcom BCM43228 and that the > freeze appears to correlate with having the machine on battery power (i am > This sounds like a problem with the Broadcom drivers - this was a known problem wit

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Anybody seen this, thought it might be shown, as nobody has mentioned it on here yet.....

2013-08-22 Thread Phill Whiteside
SEL takes a bit of getting your head round (well, I found it the hardest part of the Red Hat Engineer course I did). The notes from Red Hat are very good and I include two links for those who wish top learn more. Regards, Phill. 1. https://access.redhat.com/site/documentation/en-US/Red_Hat_Enter

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Problems with a freezing machine: All kernels in 12.04 and 13.04

2013-08-22 Thread Martin Dixon
Hi James. For what it is worth I had a similar problem with 12.04 and 12.10 and found the only solution was to reinstall 12.10 and refrain from doing any updates. 13.04 works OK with all updates loaded, but I used both with a Ubuntu One link as security until I was sure. Regards, Martin Dixon O

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Anybody seen this, thought it might be shown, as nobody has mentioned it on here yet.....

2013-08-22 Thread Tony Arnold
On 22/08/13 13:06, pete smout wrote: > On 22/08/13 12:33, Kris Douglas wrote: >> On 22 August 2013 12:21, pete smout wrote: >>> On 22/08/13 11:59, pete smout wrote: On 22/08/13 11:41, Paul Sutton wrote: > On 21/08/13 22:12, scoundrel50a wrote: >> On 21/08/2013 17:07, Colin Law wrote:

[ubuntu-uk] Problems with a freezing machine: All kernels in 12.04 and 13.04

2013-08-22 Thread James Morrissey
Dear all, I am wondering if someone can help me with a major problem that i have been having in Ubuntu, pertaining to a notoriously hard to diagnose issue of random freezing. The problem started in 13.04, which would freeze randomly, from the day i installed it. I persisted with the issue for a w

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Real Ale Train is next month!

2013-08-22 Thread Dave Walker
On 19 August 2013 12:19, Alan Lord (News) wrote: > I have one ticket that I will no longer be able to use - having to jet off > to Italy for a vtiger CRM conference instead - any one want to buy it off me > they are welcome. > > It cost £14 inc. booking fee. > > Cheers > > Al If this is still ava

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Anybody seen this, thought it might be shown, as nobody has mentioned it on here yet.....

2013-08-22 Thread pete smout
On 22/08/13 12:33, Kris Douglas wrote: > On 22 August 2013 12:21, pete smout wrote: >> On 22/08/13 11:59, pete smout wrote: >>> On 22/08/13 11:41, Paul Sutton wrote: On 21/08/13 22:12, scoundrel50a wrote: > On 21/08/2013 17:07, Colin Law wrote: >> On 21 August 2013 16:57, Gareth Franc

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Not everyone is an expert!

2013-08-22 Thread Paul Sutton
On 21/08/13 22:02, Gareth France wrote: > On 21/08/13 21:59, Dave Walker wrote: >> Gareth, I'm sorry to hear you've had a bad experience. I haven't >> looked back at the thread, but please be assured that isn't the spirit >> of this mailing list. Please do stay around :) >> >> On 21 August 2013 2

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Anybody seen this, thought it might be shown, as nobody has mentioned it on here yet.....

2013-08-22 Thread Kris Douglas
On 22 August 2013 12:21, pete smout wrote: > On 22/08/13 11:59, pete smout wrote: >> On 22/08/13 11:41, Paul Sutton wrote: >>> On 21/08/13 22:12, scoundrel50a wrote: On 21/08/2013 17:07, Colin Law wrote: > On 21 August 2013 16:57, Gareth France wrote: >> On 21/08/13 10:13, scoundrel5

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Anybody seen this, thought it might be shown, as nobody has mentioned it on here yet.....

2013-08-22 Thread J Fernyhough
On 22 August 2013 12:21, pete smout wrote: > Right a quick google of 'SELinux ubuntu 13.04' a link top of page to an > Amazon page trying to sell me a Ubunutu DVD for £6.49 (even I am not > that stupid) the SELinux wiki page is helpful if long-winded, and I have > found a folder /selinux which is

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Anybody seen this, thought it might be shown, as nobody has mentioned it on here yet.....

2013-08-22 Thread pete smout
On 22/08/13 11:59, pete smout wrote: > On 22/08/13 11:41, Paul Sutton wrote: >> On 21/08/13 22:12, scoundrel50a wrote: >>> On 21/08/2013 17:07, Colin Law wrote: On 21 August 2013 16:57, Gareth France wrote: > On 21/08/13 10:13, scoundrel50a wrote: > > Hi, I really dont understand

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Anybody seen this, thought it might be shown, as nobody has mentioned it on here yet.....

2013-08-22 Thread pete smout
On 22/08/13 11:41, Paul Sutton wrote: > On 21/08/13 22:12, scoundrel50a wrote: >> On 21/08/2013 17:07, Colin Law wrote: >>> On 21 August 2013 16:57, Gareth France wrote: On 21/08/13 10:13, scoundrel50a wrote: Hi, I really dont understand the attitude of attack when somebody posts >>

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Anybody seen this, thought it might be shown, as nobody has mentioned it on here yet.....

2013-08-22 Thread Paul Sutton
On 21/08/13 22:12, scoundrel50a wrote: > On 21/08/2013 17:07, Colin Law wrote: >> On 21 August 2013 16:57, Gareth France wrote: >>> On 21/08/13 10:13, scoundrel50a wrote: >>> >>> Hi, I really dont understand the attitude of attack when somebody posts >>> something like this. Not everybody is compe

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Anybody seen this, thought it might be shown, as nobody has mentioned it on here yet.....

2013-08-22 Thread Colin Law
On 21 August 2013 22:12, scoundrel50a wrote: > .. > I'm sorry but if you think that Peter Maddison's reply to me was acceptable > then I dont see the point in saying anything, and you shot me down yourself. > Which is why I answered the way I did. The only post I can see from Peter Maddison was a

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Not everyone is an expert!

2013-08-22 Thread Colin Law
On 21 August 2013 22:02, Gareth France wrote: > On 21/08/13 21:59, Dave Walker wrote: >> >> Gareth, I'm sorry to hear you've had a bad experience. I haven't >> looked back at the thread, but please be assured that isn't the spirit >> of this mailing list. Please do stay around :) >> >> On 21 Aug

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Anybody seen this, thought it might be shown, as nobody has mentioned it on here yet.....

2013-08-22 Thread Kris Douglas
On 21 August 2013 22:30, scoundrel50a wrote: > On 21/08/2013 10:17, Alan Pope wrote: >> >> On 21 August 2013 10:13, scoundrel50a wrote: >>> >>> Hi, I really dont understand the attitude of attack when somebody posts >>> something like this. Not everybody is competant in using Ubuntu, and not >>>