Re: [ubuntu-uk] Keyboard shortcuts in 15.04

2015-12-17 Thread Barry Drake
On 17/12/15 12:13, Liam Proven wrote: Yes, that is what I thought happened. Ctrl, LAlt/RAlt and Shift are all passed through to the OS for handling -- whatever that OS is. That's what I have found. I also found I had to rewrite the 'play' scripts. 15.04 has changed some of its behaviour

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Keyboard shortcuts in 15.04

2015-12-17 Thread Liam Proven
On 17 December 2015 at 12:58, Barry Drake wrote: > > Not quite. I did say that. It was a slip of the finger. +F4 is > the hardware suspend key combination, and was one of the key combinations I > had tried, obviously with no success. All the Lenovo hard coded keys

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Keyboard shortcuts in 15.04

2015-12-17 Thread Liam Proven
On 17 December 2015 at 08:45, Barry Drake wrote: > Sorry not to respond sooner. I've booted into the BIOS settings. I could > not find anything that has to do with wake/sleep. The manual than deals > with the BIOS setup is at: >

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Keyboard shortcuts in 15.04

2015-12-17 Thread Colin Law
On 17 December 2015 at 11:06, Liam Proven wrote: > On 17 December 2015 at 08:45, Barry Drake wrote: >> Sorry not to respond sooner. I've booted into the BIOS settings. I could >> not find anything that has to do with wake/sleep. The manual than

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Keyboard shortcuts in 15.04

2015-12-17 Thread Barry Drake
On 17/12/15 11:16, Colin Law wrote: Those seem to be talking about FN keys, whereas Barry said it was F3 for suspend, which seemed particularly strange to me. Not quite. I did say that. It was a slip of the finger. +F4 is the hardware suspend key combination, and was one of the key

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Keyboard shortcuts in 15.04

2015-12-16 Thread Liam Proven
On 16 December 2015 at 16:47, Barry Drake wrote: > > There is such a BIOS setting, but I do occasionally want to use 'hibernate', > so I'm not going to disable it. It doesn't explain the behaviour of the > apps launcher thingy though. That allows me to capture +[any

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Keyboard shortcuts in 15.04

2015-12-16 Thread Colin Law
On 16 December 2015 at 20:20, Liam Proven wrote: > > * Ubuntu has its own software-driven suspend/resume and hibernate/wake Is Ubuntu's hibernate (as opposed to suspend) reliable? I thought it was no longer supported. Colin -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Keyboard shortcuts in 15.04

2015-12-16 Thread Liam Proven
On 16 December 2015 at 22:25, Colin Law wrote: > On 16 December 2015 at 20:20, Liam Proven wrote: >> >> * Ubuntu has its own software-driven suspend/resume and hibernate/wake > > Is Ubuntu's hibernate (as opposed to suspend) reliable? I thought it > was no

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Keyboard shortcuts in 15.04

2015-12-16 Thread Barry Drake
On 16/12/15 20:20, Liam Proven wrote: I think you either did not read my reply, or did not understand it. Sorry not to respond sooner. I've booted into the BIOS settings. I could not find anything that has to do with wake/sleep. The manual than deals with the BIOS setup is at:

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Keyboard shortcuts in 15.04

2015-12-16 Thread Liam Proven
On 15 December 2015 at 22:43, Barry Drake wrote: > Hi there The +F3 is permanently hard-coded to sleep/wake. Not, as far as I know, in Ubuntu it isn't, no. I think this is a BIOS setting on your laptop. Look for options to disable such things as sleep/wake and

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Keyboard shortcuts in 15.04

2015-12-16 Thread Simon Greenwood
I remember you saying it was a Lenovo - there is an application called tpb that enables the special keys in Thinkpads which might be installed on Lenovo hardware - that's worth a check. s/ On 16 December 2015 at 09:57, Barry Drake wrote: > On 16/12/15 08:06, Simon

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Keyboard shortcuts in 15.04

2015-12-16 Thread Barry Drake
On 16/12/15 12:32, Liam Proven wrote: I think this is a BIOS setting on your laptop. Look for options to disable such things as sleep/wake and hibernate. Then Ubuntu's software versions should still work. There is such a BIOS setting, but I do occasionally want to use 'hibernate', so I'm not

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Keyboard shortcuts in 15.04

2015-12-16 Thread Simon Greenwood
It may be specific to your model or make as Ctrl-F3 doesn't do anything on my Asus S400CA by default. I would suspect that a keyboard driver for your make has been installed so finding that and disabling it might work. On 16 December 2015 at 07:40, Barry Drake wrote:

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Keyboard shortcuts in 15.04

2015-12-16 Thread Barry Drake
On 16/12/15 08:06, Simon Greenwood wrote: It may be specific to your model or make as Ctrl-F3 doesn't do anything on my Asus S400CA by default. I would suspect that a keyboard driver for your make has been installed so finding that and disabling it might work. I'll take a look when I've got a

[ubuntu-uk] Keyboard shortcuts in 15.04

2015-12-15 Thread Barry Drake
Hi there The +F3 is permanently hard-coded to sleep/wake. I can't find anywhere a keyboard shortcuts conf file. The locations given for earlier versions of Ubuntu on the internet are no longer valid for 15.04. I need all the F keys to play different pieces of Christmas music (Carols)

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Keyboard shortcuts in 15.04

2015-12-15 Thread Colin Law
On 15 December 2015 at 21:43, Barry Drake wrote: > Hi there The +F3 is permanently hard-coded to sleep/wake. I > can't find anywhere a keyboard shortcuts conf file. The locations given for > earlier versions of Ubuntu on the internet are no longer valid for

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Keyboard shortcuts in 15.04

2015-12-15 Thread Barry Drake
On 16/12/15 07:01, Barry Drake wrote: hibernate/wake really is hard coded into the +F3 combination. In custom shortcuts, you can't grab that one. I'm going to see how many others I am allowed to use. The super key is hard coded too. You can set the custom shortcut to +[anykey] just fine -

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Keyboard shortcuts in 15.04

2015-12-15 Thread Grant Phillips-Sewell
On 16 Dec 2015 07:02, "Barry Drake" wrote: > > On 15/12/15 21:53, Colin Law wrote: > >> This may do what you want. >> System Settings > Keyboard > Shortcuts > Custom Shortcuts > > > Hi Colin It ought to work, shouldn't it? As I said, hibernate/wake really is

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Keyboard shortcuts in 15.04

2015-12-15 Thread Barry Drake
On 16/12/15 07:29, Grant Phillips-Sewell wrote: However, the fact that this combination wakes the machine up from sleep leads me to ask whether the F3 key is the hardware sleep/wake key No. +F4 on this laptop is the hardware sleep key combination. The issue is definitely due to Ubuntu hard