Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu beginners course in North Tyneside

2012-05-07 Thread Barry Titterton
> the entire curriculum that is > taught within the local authority is Windows-based > I'm not supposed to favour > any particular software product (be it FOSS or otherwise) in my job, Hi Bea, I don't want you to think that I am being funny but the two statements above, lifted from your email,

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu beginners course in North Tyneside

2012-05-07 Thread alan c
On 06/05/12 18:26, John Bottomley wrote: Hi reading your comments on introducing Ubuntu I thought you might be interested in our experiences of Ubuntu as a training medium. We have been running a project in South Cheshire for 4 years. The aim of the project is to support local communities by im

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu beginners course in North Tyneside

2012-05-07 Thread Bea Groves
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu beginners course in North Tyneside

2012-05-06 Thread David Jones
On 05/06/2012 06:26 PM, John Bottomley wrote: Hi reading your comments on introducing Ubuntu I thought you might be interested in our experiences of Ubuntu as a training medium. We have been running a project in South Cheshire for 4 years. The aim of the project is to support local communities

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu beginners course in North Tyneside

2012-05-06 Thread John Bottomley
eside (kpb) 4. Re: Error report not working (Colin Law) 5. Re: Ubuntu beginners course in North Tyneside (Alan Pope) -- Message: 1 Date: Sat, 05 May 2012 20:21:35 +0100 From: Bea Groves To: UK Ubuntu Talk Subject: Re

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu beginners course in North Tyneside

2012-05-05 Thread Alan Pope
On 5 May 2012, at 10:50, Bea Groves wrote: > I actually installed 10.10 (staying clear of Unity just for the moment until > all the controversy dies down a little) Erk. That's a shame. Unity is not going away and 10.10 is no longer supported. I'd seriously reconsider this move. 12.04 make mo

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu beginners course in North Tyneside

2012-05-05 Thread kpb
On 05/05/12 20:21, Bea Groves wrote: Hi! I'm actually the President of IfL -- so it sometimes helps in getting educational bodies to do things they normally wouldn't ;-) Er - yes I can see that you may have a bit of leverage there :-) So I can expect to see a write up in the next IfL news? M

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu beginners course in North Tyneside

2012-05-05 Thread Gareth France
On Sat, May 5, 2012 at 8:21 PM, Bea Groves wrote: > Hi! > > I'm actually the President of IfL -- so it sometimes helps in getting > educational bodies to do things they normally wouldn't ;-) > > I'm not against Unity. I just think I need to get my little bunch of > 'pioneers' used to something cl

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu beginners course in North Tyneside

2012-05-05 Thread Bea Groves
Hi! I'm actually the President of IfL -- so it sometimes helps in getting educational bodies to do things they normally wouldn't ;-) I'm not against Unity. I just think I need to get my little bunch of 'pioneers' used to something closer to what they're used to Windows-wise than go with the

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu beginners course in North Tyneside

2012-05-05 Thread Gareth France
Well said sir > > Remember that as far as most managers are concerned in the state education > sector, GNU/Linux IS the new BBC Micro/ Archimedes. Windows is normal to > them. > > -- > Cheers > > Oh there's nothing wrong with the BBC or Archimedes, just that they were old hat by the time I was in

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu beginners course in North Tyneside

2012-05-05 Thread kpb
On 05/05/12 19:53, Gareth France wrote: Oh please, don't misunderstand me. I applaud the achievement and I am sure it will inspire new users to make the switch and share the goodness. Well said sir Remember that as far as most managers are concerned in the state education sector

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu beginners course in North Tyneside

2012-05-05 Thread Gareth France
On Sat, May 5, 2012 at 7:41 PM, kpb wrote: > On 05/05/12 19:32, Gareth France wrote: > >> >> So because we find something difficult we should shy away from learning >> it, even though that's the way things are going to be from now on? Teaching >> people to use Ubuntu with Gnome 2 is rather akin t

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu beginners course in North Tyneside

2012-05-05 Thread kpb
On 05/05/12 19:32, Gareth France wrote: So because we find something difficult we should shy away from learning it, even though that's the way things are going to be from now on? Teaching people to use Ubuntu with Gnome 2 is rather akin to telling people you'll teach them to use a PC by using

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu beginners course in North Tyneside

2012-05-05 Thread Gareth France
On Sat, May 5, 2012 at 7:37 PM, Phill Whiteside wrote: > The *buntu world is not solely Unity - have a look around. > > Regards, > > Phill. > True, I suppose someone using Gnome 2 could easily transfer the skills to Xubuntu or probably even Kubuntu with minimal culture shock. I've never really

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu beginners course in North Tyneside

2012-05-05 Thread Phill Whiteside
The *buntu world is not solely Unity - have a look around. Regards, Phill. On 6 May 2012 00:02, Gareth France wrote: > Gareth: > >> >> My teenagers and 19-24 students can sort Unity in a minute or two when I >> lend them my little 1024/600px netbook in lessons. The adults struggle a >> bit to

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu beginners course in North Tyneside

2012-05-05 Thread Gareth France
Gareth: > > My teenagers and 19-24 students can sort Unity in a minute or two when I > lend them my little 1024/600px netbook in lessons. The adults struggle a > bit to be honest. Would need an overview/explanation, but a 10 week course > would be great. > > So because we find something difficult

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu beginners course in North Tyneside

2012-05-05 Thread kpb
On 05/05/12 19:00, Gareth France wrote: I actually installed 10.10 (staying clear of Unity just for the moment until all the controversy dies down a little) onto the 4GB sticks using the Windows 'Universal USB installer'. Works like a dream! Students plug in the stick, switch on

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu beginners course in North Tyneside

2012-05-05 Thread Gareth France
> I actually installed 10.10 (staying clear of Unity just for the moment > until all the controversy dies down a little) onto the 4GB sticks using the > Windows 'Universal USB installer'. Works like a dream! Students plug in the > stick, switch on the PC... and hey presto! Later when we upgrade to

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu beginners course in North Tyneside

2012-05-05 Thread Bea Groves
Hi Alan! I'm really pleased that you like the the new course concept. I'm going to try to keep on plugging away for it to become a regular feature on North Tyneside's curriculum. I actually installed 10.10 (staying clear of Unity just for the moment until all the controversy dies down a litt

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu beginners course in North Tyneside

2012-05-05 Thread Alan Pope
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Bea, This is excellent! On 05/05/12 10:14, Bea Groves wrote: > We're also having to run the course in rather 'experimental' > circumstances. The powers-that-be wouldn't let me install Ubuntu > to their PC HDDs, so we're having to run Ubuntu from

[ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu beginners course in North Tyneside

2012-05-05 Thread Bea Groves
Hi! Just a quick bit of news... I teach in adult education in North Tyneside, and last year I managed to talk my manager round to the idea of putting on a beginners course in Ubuntu within the borough. It means spending scarce funding on what is a fairly 'off the beam' topic, when the usual p