Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu beginners course in North Tyneside

2012-05-07 Thread Bea Groves
:35 +0100 From: Bea Grovesbeagro...@gmail.com To: UK Ubuntu Talkubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu beginners course in North Tyneside Message-ID:4fa57dbf.7060...@googlemail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Hi! I'm actually the President of IfL

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu beginners course in North Tyneside

2012-05-07 Thread alan c
On 06/05/12 18:26, John Bottomley wrote: Hi reading your comments on introducing Ubuntu I thought you might be interested in our experiences of Ubuntu as a training medium. We have been running a project in South Cheshire for 4 years. The aim of the project is to support local communities by

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu beginners course in North Tyneside

2012-05-07 Thread Barry Titterton
the entire curriculum that is taught within the local authority is Windows-based I'm not supposed to favour any particular software product (be it FOSS or otherwise) in my job, Hi Bea, I don't want you to think that I am being funny but the two statements above, lifted from your email, do

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu beginners course in North Tyneside

2012-05-06 Thread John Bottomley
: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu beginners course in North Tyneside Message-ID:4fa57dbf.7060...@googlemail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Hi! I'm actually the President of IfL -- so it sometimes helps in getting educational bodies to do things they normally wouldn't ;-) I'm

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu beginners course in North Tyneside

2012-05-06 Thread David Jones
On 05/06/2012 06:26 PM, John Bottomley wrote: Hi reading your comments on introducing Ubuntu I thought you might be interested in our experiences of Ubuntu as a training medium. We have been running a project in South Cheshire for 4 years. The aim of the project is to support local

[ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu beginners course in North Tyneside

2012-05-05 Thread Bea Groves
Hi! Just a quick bit of news... I teach in adult education in North Tyneside, and last year I managed to talk my manager round to the idea of putting on a beginners course in Ubuntu within the borough. It means spending scarce funding on what is a fairly 'off the beam' topic, when the usual

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu beginners course in North Tyneside

2012-05-05 Thread Alan Pope
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Bea, This is excellent! On 05/05/12 10:14, Bea Groves wrote: We're also having to run the course in rather 'experimental' circumstances. The powers-that-be wouldn't let me install Ubuntu to their PC HDDs, so we're having to run Ubuntu from

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu beginners course in North Tyneside

2012-05-05 Thread Bea Groves
Hi Alan! I'm really pleased that you like the the new course concept. I'm going to try to keep on plugging away for it to become a regular feature on North Tyneside's curriculum. I actually installed 10.10 (staying clear of Unity just for the moment until all the controversy dies down a

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu beginners course in North Tyneside

2012-05-05 Thread Gareth France
I actually installed 10.10 (staying clear of Unity just for the moment until all the controversy dies down a little) onto the 4GB sticks using the Windows 'Universal USB installer'. Works like a dream! Students plug in the stick, switch on the PC... and hey presto! Later when we upgrade to a

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu beginners course in North Tyneside

2012-05-05 Thread kpb
On 05/05/12 19:00, Gareth France wrote: I actually installed 10.10 (staying clear of Unity just for the moment until all the controversy dies down a little) onto the 4GB sticks using the Windows 'Universal USB installer'. Works like a dream! Students plug in the stick, switch on

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu beginners course in North Tyneside

2012-05-05 Thread Gareth France
Gareth: My teenagers and 19-24 students can sort Unity in a minute or two when I lend them my little 1024/600px netbook in lessons. The adults struggle a bit to be honest. Would need an overview/explanation, but a 10 week course would be great. So because we find something difficult we

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu beginners course in North Tyneside

2012-05-05 Thread Gareth France
On Sat, May 5, 2012 at 7:37 PM, Phill Whiteside phi...@ubuntu.com wrote: The *buntu world is not solely Unity - have a look around. Regards, Phill. True, I suppose someone using Gnome 2 could easily transfer the skills to Xubuntu or probably even Kubuntu with minimal culture shock. I've

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu beginners course in North Tyneside

2012-05-05 Thread kpb
On 05/05/12 19:32, Gareth France wrote: So because we find something difficult we should shy away from learning it, even though that's the way things are going to be from now on? Teaching people to use Ubuntu with Gnome 2 is rather akin to telling people you'll teach them to use a PC by

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu beginners course in North Tyneside

2012-05-05 Thread Gareth France
On Sat, May 5, 2012 at 7:41 PM, kpb k...@sohcahtoa.org.uk wrote: On 05/05/12 19:32, Gareth France wrote: So because we find something difficult we should shy away from learning it, even though that's the way things are going to be from now on? Teaching people to use Ubuntu with Gnome 2 is

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu beginners course in North Tyneside

2012-05-05 Thread kpb
On 05/05/12 19:53, Gareth France wrote: Oh please, don't misunderstand me. I applaud the achievement and I am sure it will inspire new users to make the switch and share the goodness. Well said sir Remember that as far as most managers are concerned in the state education

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu beginners course in North Tyneside

2012-05-05 Thread Gareth France
Well said sir Remember that as far as most managers are concerned in the state education sector, GNU/Linux IS the new BBC Micro/ Archimedes. Windows is normal to them. -- Cheers Oh there's nothing wrong with the BBC or Archimedes, just that they were old hat by the time I was in

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu beginners course in North Tyneside

2012-05-05 Thread Bea Groves
Hi! I'm actually the President of IfL -- so it sometimes helps in getting educational bodies to do things they normally wouldn't ;-) I'm not against Unity. I just think I need to get my little bunch of 'pioneers' used to something closer to what they're used to Windows-wise than go with the

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu beginners course in North Tyneside

2012-05-05 Thread Gareth France
On Sat, May 5, 2012 at 8:21 PM, Bea Groves beagro...@gmail.com wrote: Hi! I'm actually the President of IfL -- so it sometimes helps in getting educational bodies to do things they normally wouldn't ;-) I'm not against Unity. I just think I need to get my little bunch of 'pioneers' used to

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu beginners course in North Tyneside

2012-05-05 Thread kpb
On 05/05/12 20:21, Bea Groves wrote: Hi! I'm actually the President of IfL -- so it sometimes helps in getting educational bodies to do things they normally wouldn't ;-) Er - yes I can see that you may have a bit of leverage there :-) So I can expect to see a write up in the next IfL news?

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu beginners course in North Tyneside

2012-05-05 Thread Alan Pope
On 5 May 2012, at 10:50, Bea Groves beagro...@gmail.com wrote: I actually installed 10.10 (staying clear of Unity just for the moment until all the controversy dies down a little) Erk. That's a shame. Unity is not going away and 10.10 is no longer supported. I'd seriously reconsider this