Re: Aleph-umlaut

Am 2018-11-09 um 13:42 schrieb Mark E. Shoulson via Unicode: Noticed something really fascinating in an old pamphlet I was reading really interesting, thanks! (Link is

Re: Hyphenation Markup

? this character is intended for invisible word separation and for line break control; it has no width, but its presence between two characters does not prevent increased letter spacing in justification Best wishes, Otto Stolz

Re: Uppercase ß

ital sharp-S is an optional alternative, but not the normal way of uppercasing the sharp-S. Best wishes, Otto Stolz

Re: L2/18-181

the language. I wonder how English and French ever could be made to use a single script, let alone German (“ß”), Icelandic (“þ”), Swedish (“å”), Latvian (“ē”), Chech (“č”) or – you name it. Best wishes, Otto Stolz

Re: A sketch with the best-known Swiss tongue twister

2018-03-09 12:09 GMT+01:00 Mark Davis ☕️ via Unicode : De Papscht hät z’Schpiäz s’Schpäkchbschtekch z’schpaat bschtellt. literally: The Pope has [in Spiez] [the bacon cutlery] [too late] ordered. Am 2018-03-09 um 12:52 schrieb

Re: Unicode education in UK Schools

Hello, am 2017-07-07 um 20:45 Uhr hat Asmus Freytag geschrieben: I also checked whether there are accessible homework assignments that mention Unicode ("Hausaufgabe Unicode"). I didn't go very deep, but it seems that it's not untypical to relegate Unicode to a sidebar, explaining the "\u"

Tilde (was: Unicode education in UK Schools)

Hello, am 2017-07-07 um 17:14 Uhr hat William_J_G Overington geschrieben: I found that the character a tilde as I now know it to be called is only used in Portuguese. Just for the record: “Ô is used in Portuguese, Kashubian; “Ñ” is used in Galician, Spanish, Mirandese, Catalan (only for

Re: LATIN CAPITAL LETTER SHARP S officially recognized

Hello, on 03.07.2017 19:01, Otto Stolz via Unicode wrote: Since German ist the only language using “ß” (if I am not mistaken), […] Am 2017-07-03 um 20:15 Uhr hat Gerrit Ansmann geschrieben: Some old Sorbian (blackletter) orthographies also employed the ß. It was also used at the beginning

Re: LATIN CAPITAL LETTER SHARP S officially recognized

Hello, am 2017-06-30 um 17:34 Uhr hat Michael Everson geschrieben: It would be sensible to case-map ß to ẞ however. Since German ist the only language using “ß” (if I am not mistaken), Unicode should comply with the official German orthographic rules with respect to this letter. As I have

Re: LATIN CAPITAL LETTER SHARP S officially recognized

Hello, am 2017-07-03 um 18:16 Uhr habe ich geschrieben: This rule did hold for all consonants, there’s nothing particular about double-s. On 2017-07-03 at 18:05 Jörg Knappen had written: the hyphenation oddity … never affected the letter s. Jörg is right. I forgot the additional rule that

LATIN CAPITAL LETTER SHARP S officially recognized

Hello, der Rat für deutsche Rechtschreibung which is responsible for the further development of the official German ortho- graphy has finally recognized LATIN CAPITAL LETTER SHARP S as a possible upper-case equvalent for the LATIN SMALL LETTER SHARP S. The report announcing the change is dated

Re: Encoding of old compatibility characters

Helo, Am 31.03.2017 um 09:57 schrieb Eli Zaretskii: Arial Unicode MS supports that character [U+23E8], FWIW. From: Otto Stolz<otto.st...@uni-konstanz.de> Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2017 15:21:02 +0200 Not on my good ole Wndows XP SP3 system. On 4/4/2017 7:58 AM, Eli Zaretskii wrote: Thi

Re: Encoding of old compatibility characters

Am 31.03.2017 um 09:57 schrieb Eli Zaretskii: Arial Unicode MS supports that character [U+23E8], FWIW. Not on my good ole Wndows XP SP3 system. Best wishes, Otto

Re: Standaridized variation sequences for the Deseret alphabet?

Hello Michael, others, On 2017/03/23 09:03, Michael Everson wrote: Its the same diphthong (a sound) written with different letters. Am 23.03.2017 um 06:54 schrieb Martin J. Dürst: I think this may well be the *historically* correct analysis. And that may have some influence on how to encode

Re: "Oh that's what you meant!: reducing emoji misunderstanding"

Am 18.11.2016 um 00:31 schrieb Doug Ewell: Or, people could just say what they mean, using language. This is not so easy, as already Lewis Carroll had seen, cf. this snippet from “Alice in Wonderland”: “Then you should say what you mean,” the March Hare went on. “I do,” Alice hastily replied;

Re: Dataset for all ISO639 code sorted by country/territory?

/codes.asp> may provide partial answers. Best wishes, Otto Stolz

Re: Announcing The Unicode® Standard, Version 9.0

Ciao, il 2016-06-22 alle 00:02 announceme...@unicode.org ha scritto: Version 9.0 of the Unicode Standard is now available. … MOTOR SCOOTER Almost exactly 70 years after its invention, “la vespa” has found her way into Unicode. I have related that important news, immediately, to the members

Re: Polyglot keyboards

ending on the following key; the »~« key works as tilde accent on the letter typed subsequently; and so on. This scheme allows the conventional QWERTZ hardware to be used for multilingual typing – with minimal re-learning and training. And still the »µ« key produces the »µ« character :-) Best wishes, Otto Stolz

Polyglot keyboards (was: Non-standard 8-bit fonts still in use)

otonic Greek, and Yiddish) for personal use, long ago. Best wishes, Otto Stolz

Re: Swapcase for Titlecase characters

Hello, Am 19.03.2016 um 17:40 schrieb Doug Ewell: As one anecdote (which is even less like "data" than two anecdotes), I could not find any of the characters IJ ij DŽ Dž dž LJ Lj lj NJ Nj nj or their hex equivalents in any of the CLDR keyboard definitions. I'd imagine that users just type the two

transliteration of mjagkij znak (Cyrillic soft sign)

Hello, I am wondering how U+02B9 MOFIFIER LETTER PRIME made its way into the Unicode repertoire, and how it acquired its comment “transliteration of mjagkij znak (Cyrillic soft sign: palatalization)“. ISO/R 9:1954 through ISO/R 9:1986 map the mjagkij znak “ь” to the apostrophe, and so does DIN

Re: Question about Perl5 extended UTF-8 design

with the standard. Best wishes, Otto Stolz

Re: [somewhat off topic] straw poll

Am 10. September 2015 um 20:04 h schrieb Peter Constable: […] creating a Web page containing (say) some Latin characters - not obscure, […] to use (say) Notepad and entering HTML numeric character references; and that my findings were that it worked. Q1: Would you find that to be an

Re: a suggestion new emoji .

evidence that an additional character really needs to be encoded, e. g. because it is already widely used in print and cannot be represented in Unicode. Best wishes, Otto Stolz

Re: Unicode organization is still anti-Serbian and anti-Macedonian

) that the problem manifests itself (mainly or only) with italic style letters; hence there remains virually no problem with normal (non-italic) style. Best wishes, Otto Stolz ___ Unicode mailing list Unicode@unicode.org http://unicode.org/mailman/listinfo

Re: Unicode organization is still anti-Serbian and anti-Macedonian

for you, feel free to ask me privately, for a copy of the font, configured for Serbian/Macedonian. I can send you that copy, without any obligation to maintain it or to adapt forth- coming versions. Best wishes, Otto Stolz ___ Unicode mailing list

Re: Dotted Circle plus Combining Mark as Text

described. But how can they be described within the framework of Unicode? Bemused, Otto Stolz

Re: Why blackletter letters?

already been mentioned by other contributions to this thread. Best wishes, Otto Stolz

MSKLC restrictions (was: Ways to show Unicode contents on Windows?)

than 30 different dead keys). I guess, also for a Viatnamese keyboard layout, sequences of dead keys would come handy. Best wishes, Otto Stolz

Capitalization in German (was: s-j combination in Unicode?)

, significant). Best wishes, Otto Stolz

German »ß« (was: s-j combination in Unicode?)

Hello, Am 16.02.2013 11:48, schrieb Stephan Stiller: Or a non-name example: Buße (repentance) vs Busse (buses). But then, non-name examples are far less likely to remain ambiguous in context. Years ago, I have seen with my own eyes, in a Swiss magazine (where they consistently replace “ß”

Re: Long-term archiving of electronic text documents

with the UTF-32 specs; so, if that idea would ever materialise, it would have to sail under new colours. Best wishes, Otto Stolz

Re: Is that character *+A7AC LATIN CAPITAL LETTER SCRIPT G ?

much clearer glyphs than the mimeograph technique. Best wishes, Otto Stolz

Re: UCA and Russian letter Ё

Hello, Leo Broukhis hatte geschrieben: In Russian, the difference between Е and Ё is primary at the beginning of a word as they are considered distinct letters of the alphabet, yet secondary in the middle of a word, as the dieresis over Ё is not mandatory. As an example, ель ёлка, but тёлка

Re: UTF-8 ill-formed question

the surrogates from my UTF-8 MPE was really that I needed additional space for the user’s guide on the reverse side. Cheers, Otto Stolz

Re: UTF-8 ill-formed question

Hello, 2012/12/16 Otto Stolz otto.st...@uni-konstanz.de The reason I excluded the surrogates from my UTF-8 MPE was really that I needed additional space for the user’s guide on the reverse side. Sorry, typo; I meant: “my UTF-16 MPE”. I added that extra row (with the branch excluding

Re: UTF-8 ill-formed question

), and its two followers for more UTFs. Display or print with a fixed-pitch font, such as Lucida Console or Courier New. Enjoy! Cheers, Otto Stolz Side 1 (print and cut out): ++---+---+--+ | U+ | yy zz |Cima's UTF-8 Magic | Hex= | | U+007F

Re: Searching data: map countries to scripts

Hello Manuel, am 2012-08-20 01:05, schrieb Manuel Strehl: I'm looking for a data source, that maps countries to scripts used in them. The target application is a visualization in the context of my codepoints.net site, namely http://codepoints.net/scripts. At the moment I've extracted the

Apostrophe, and DIN keyboard (was: U+25CA LOZENGE)

tell the difference. Best wishes, Otto Stolz

German »Raute« (was: U+25CA LOZENGE)

, Otto Stolz

Re: Sinhala naming conventions

(or shortcomings) in existing fonts, editors, keyboard drivers, and other software and suggest (or even provide) better solutions. Or you could publish tutorials or examples of good practice. In any case, it would be wise to know the existing standards and comply with them. Best wishes, Otto Stolz

Re: ASSAMESE AND BENGALI CONTROVERSY IN UNICODE STANDARD ::::: SOLUTIONS

://www.unicode.org/faq/char_combmark.html#11, and related FAQs. Before asking for “improvements”, you should be familiar with the pertinent FAQ collection, at the very least. Sincerely, Otto Stolz

Charset declaration in HTML (was: Romanized Singhala - Think about it again)

/TR/html401/charset.html#h-5.3. These may refer to any Unicode character, whatsoever. However, they will take considerably more storage space (and transmission bandwidth) than the UTF-8 encoded characters would take. Good luck, Otto Stolz

Re: Zero-width joiner won't join

: Mangal, Tahoma #1607;zwj; zwj;#1607;zwj; zwj;#1607;/h1 /html I. e., U+0647, with ZWJ on either, or both, sides, in various font families. Best regards, Otto Stolz

Re: Zero-width joiner won't join

be this: do you know of any browser that can handle your test case? Firefox 10.0.2 apparently does it right; Opera 10.52 does a half-hearted job; and Internet Explorer 8.0.6001.18702 completely screws it up. Cf. attached screen shots. Best wishes, Otto Stolz attachment: ZWJ-Opera.pngattachment

Re: Upside Down Fu character

, that in the former case, the upside-down text will overlap the following line (in this test a horizontal ruler). Best wishes, Otto Stolz attachment: Test_UpsideDown.pngTitle: Test txtUpsideDown  福福福 福福 Van Anderson Van Anderson Van Anderson Van Anderson Van Anderson

Sorting and German (was: Sorting and Volapük)

as a distinct pair of letters, ro go between SS and ST. Best wishes, Otto Stolz

Re: Fwd: Re: Samogitian E with dot above and macron

to single Unicode characters, and that keystroke sequences are not necessarily mapped to character sequences. I hope well, that Arns can exploit this freedom of the mapping to find an ergonomically, and linguistically, pleasing keyboard layout for the purpose at hand. Best wishes, Otto Stolz

Re: Fwd: Re: Samogitian E with dot above and macron

community – and you will have to find a decent font to display the Unicode characters (and sequences thereof), according to the rules of your orthography. Best wishes, Otto Stolz

Re: ,,semi-virgula''

Hello, Am 2010-08-31 16:57, schrieb Janusz S. Bień: Can the diacritic be interpreted as an already exisiting combining character? Perhaps: 0326 Combining comma below 0329 Combining vertical line below 0337 Combining short solidus overlay Cheers, Otto Stolz

Re: Historical Scandinavian currency signs (daler and mark)

out how to best represent the other two with Unicode. The Daler sign resembles closely the GERMAN PENNY SIGN (U+20B0). Best wishes, Otto Stolz

Apostrophe in transliteration (was: Modifiers from punctuation)

Hello, am 2010-08-08 18:56, schrieb António MARTINS-Tuválkin: We all know why is good to have U+02BC separated from U+2019, Which one is recommended, when transliterating, as the Latin equvalent of the Cyrillic letter Soft Sign (044C)? Thanks for any hints, Otto Stolz

Re: number padless?

Am 2010-08-07 04:19, schrieb Murray Sargent: In general to type in a character by its Unicode value, type in the hex value and then alt+x. In some MS programs, e. g. the German version of MS Word, it’s rather Alt-C, as Alt-X is endowed with some other meaning. Best wishes, Otto Stolz

Re: Bangladeshi

such, in the versions to come). • To find particular character assignments, start at http://www.unicode.org/charts/. Good luck, Otto stolz

Re: Latin Script

Hello Tulasi, on 2010-06-18 04:24, you have asked: Or do Unicode ISO/IEC use different number name for same letter/symbol? You might find enlightening the FAQ on “Unicode and ISO 10646” http://www.unicode.org/faq/unicode_iso.html. Best wishes, Otto Stolz

Re: Hexadecimal digits A-F

Hello, am 2010-06-09 15:10, schrieb Frédéric Grosshans: I think adding the relevant few lines in the Archive of Notices of Non-Approval http://www.unicode.org/alloc/nonapprovals.html might be useful Also an FAQ entry might be useful. I just have submitted a suggestion. Best wishes, Otto

Re: Hexadecimal digits

”; there is no language known that has “hexadecim”, or anything alike, for 16. Best wishes, Otto Stolz

Re: Hexadecimal digits

as the common, decimal digit “9”, which would render any special Nystrom font rather misleading to the reader. Best wishes, Otto Stolz

Re: Least used parts of BMP.

marks it as either a single ASCII byte, a starting, or a continuation byte; hence you have not to go back to the beginning of the whole data stream to recognize, and decode, a group of bytes. Best wishes, Otto Stolz

Re: Hexadecimal digits

of every number you are going to parse. This stems from the fact that the same digits are used for all number systems. Note that Unicode is a character-encoding standard, hence cannot do anything about this sort of ambiguity. Best wishes, Otto Stolz

Re: Titlecasing iota subscript

the pertinent passage in the Unicode standard, http://www.unicode.org/versions/Unicode5.2.0/ch05.pdf#G29675. Good luck, Otto Stolz

Re: US-ASCII (was: Re: Invalid UTF-8 sequences)

Mark Davis schrieb: This is just a confusion among the hoi polloi. And here we have yet another example: hoi is Greek for the (hoi polloi = the many). Best wishes, Otto Stolz

Re: Marking Elongated script in scholarly editions

Or, perhaps, you could (ab)use asterisks, or dots instead, e. g. U+2042 Asterism (i. e. 3 asterisks, in a triangle shape) U+2051 Two asterisks aligned vertically U+22EE Vertical ellipsis Best wishes, Otto Stolz

Re: CGJ , RLM

in), but I am sure I could find better examples if I would try in earnest. Best wishes, Otto Stolz

Re: CGJ , RLM

(growth tube) (waxtube) Best wishes, Otto Stolz

Re: Exporting Unicode UTF-8 from Word

is also UCS-2LE encoded). Best wishes, Otto Stolz

Re: utf-8 and unicode fonts on LINUX

. Best wishes, Otto Stolz

Re: Unicode HTML, download

://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator, and http://validator.w3.org/checklink. Good luck, Otto Stolz

Re: Unicode HTML, download

: It does not help much to simply add the proper Unicode-related HTML code at the top; rather, you have to make sure that your HTML code is encoded properly, and that the reader's browser will know about its encoding. Best wishes, Otto Stolz

Re: Unicode HTML, download

compare http://www.microsoft.com/OpenType/OTSpec/WGL4E.HTM to the pertinent ranges in THE BOOK. When I wrote the advice quoted supra, I was mainly thinking of some Punctuation and Symbols I'd like to use, which are not in WGL4. Best wishes, Otto Stolz

Re: Unicode IDNs

). Best wishes, Otto Stolz

Re: Unicode IDNs

| not found ---+++- http://www.??.net/ http://www.%C9%99%C9%9B.net/ http://www./??.net/ http://%c5%bc%c3%b3%c5%82w.pl/ * Not found on 1st try after IE start, IE 6 hung on subsequent tries Best wishes, Otto Stolz

Re: Errors in TUS Figure 15.2?

Peter Kirk schrieb: There appear to be two errors (not listed in the errata page http://www.unicode.org/errata/) in Figure 15.2 on page 391 of The Unicode Standard 4.0, the online version at http://www.unicode.org/versions/Unicode4.0.0/ch15.pdf. The fourth and last column of the table appears

Re: UTF Magic Pocket Encoders

will consider this approach for my own work ;-) Normally, I use Notepad, and Command Debug, on my XP system for quick conversions. Best wishes, Otto Stolz

UTF Magic Pocket Encoders

the discussion on MPEs, which are toys, after all (though they could also be used to visualize the three UTF encodings). Cheers, Otto Stolz Side 1 (print and cut out): ╔╦═══╦═══╦══╗ ║ U+ ║ yy zz ║Cima’s UTF-8 Magic ║ Hex↔ ║ ║ U+007F

Re: UTF to unicode conversion

easily add a final step to compute UTF-16LE, or to add a BOM). Definitely, the world has longed for this, for years ;-) Enjoy! Cheers, Otto Stolz þÿAvers: Print with a fixed-with font, such as Lucida Console, and cut out

Long S in Germany (was: 0364 COMBINING LATIN SMALL LETTER E)

replaced with an ß letter. The rationale for the Swiss keyboard design is that the accented characters (for French and Italian) were less dispensable than the ß (only used in German, and easily replaced with the ss Digraph). Again, best wishes, Otto Stolz

Re: Swastika to be banned by Microsoft?

books or love poetry can also render 'Mein Kampf'. You cannot devise an aphabet incapable of spelling swear-words. Cheers, Otto Stolz

Re: Tamazight/berber language : How to send mail, write word documents ....

Azzedine Ait Khelifa wrote: how i can send mail, write word document using Arial Unicode MS font ? Cf. http://www.alanwood.net/unicode/. After having read, tested, and understood (at large) these pages, try and ask more specific questions on the Unicode list. Good luck, Otto Stolz

Re: Unicode-compliant email manager on XP system

. http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=KB;en-us;q241538. Karljürgen Feuerherm continued: I'm looking for some other product which might suit the purpose, either free or at least not expensive. Mozilla 1.3 comprises a very reasonable e-mail client. Best wishes, Otto Stolz

Re: Unicode-compliant email manager on XP system

. Again, I recommend to read http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=KB;en-us;q241538. Best wishes, Otto Stolz

Specifying the character encoding (was: Announcement: New Unicode Savvy Logo)

-7.2 and http://www.w3.org/TR/html401/charset.html#h-5.2.2. Cheers, Otto Stolz

Re: Re: book end or enclosing characters in most languages?

, there is not comprehensive list of openers vs. closers possible. Best wishes, Otto Stolz PS. In these tow languages, the quote-marks are paired thusly: en_US: U+201C ... U+201D, and U+2018 ... U+2019 de_DE: U+201E ... U+201C, and U+201A ... U+2018

Re: Detecting UTF-8 Locale Question

/doc/806-0634/6j9vo5akm?a=view - http://docs.sun.com/db/doc/806-0624/6j9vek59d?a=view Best wishes, Otto Stolz

Re: New document.

Yung-Fong Tang wrote: could you point out which symbol in that two images need to be proposed? either by using red ciricle on the image or tell use the surrounding text. Thanks http://www.rz.uni-konstanz.de/Antivirus/tests/genealog/

Re: New document.

unter Mitw. von Dieter Berger ...]. - 19., neu bearb. u. erw. Aufl. ISBN: 3-411-20900-3. Best wishes, Otto Stolz

Re: Need encoding conversion routines

askq1 askq1 wrote: Actually my requirement is striaght-forward/common and I believe it should be available somewhere on net. In particular I need source code (or some way) for following requirements: - Convert Unicode code-point to UTF8 encoding and vice-versa. - Convert Unicode code-point to

Re: ISO 8859_2 and Windows 1250

I had written: CP 1250 contains the ISO 8859-1 characters, hence it is not suited for slavic laguages. Eric Muller wrote: I suspect that Otto meant to type CP 1252 contains... Of course. Thanks for the correction. Cheers, OS

Re: ISO 8859_2 and Windows 1250

/docs/mod/core.html#adddefaultcharset, http://httpd.apache.org/docs/mod/mod_mime.html#addcharset, http://httpd.apache.org/docs/configuring.html, and http://httpd.apache.org/docs/configuring.html#htaccess. Best wishes, Otto Stolz

Re: Encoding: Unicode Quarterly Newsletter

Kenneth Whistler wrote: we can calculate the weight as being *approximately* 9.05 pounds (avoirdupois) [or 10.99 troy pounds]. Apparently a weighty publication, that forthcoming Unicode standard... Cheers, Otto Stolz

Re: Encoding: Unicode Quarterly Newsletter

, the relativistic effects must be taken into account. I hope that the editors took pains to find a wording that will not upset anybody to the extend that he would throw the book away at a considerable fraction of the speed of light... Best wishes, Otto Stolz

Re: symbols for `born' and `died' + guarani sign

Best wishes, Otto Stolz

Re: Character display problem in browser

://czyborra.com/charsets/codepages.html#CP1250 http://czyborra.com/charsets/iso8859.html#ISO-8859-2 Best wishes, Otto Stolz

Re: Unicode and Encoding Problems in Browsers

, or the WWW page to be displayed requires a particular, yet unsuitable font. Cf. http://www.alanwood.net/unicode/ for more info on fonts and browsers. Best wishes, Otto Stolz

Re: LATIN LETTER N WITH DIAERESIS?

. F725 resembles U+20B0 GERMAN PENNY SIGN, which is probably a script d, derived from the Latin word denarius. (Just add an upstroke on the left hand of the Verdana PUA character.) This is not convincing either, I know. Just my 0,02 ¤. Best wishes, Otto Stolz

Re: Small Latin Letter m with Macron

(plain), or - mark the plain (unabbreviated) occurence of the characters, e. g., U+006D U+U+200B U+006D (plain) vs. U+006D U+006D (abbr.). I'd prefer the former one, because it marks the deviation from the prevalent usage. Best wishes, Otto Stolz

Re: Small Latin Letter m with Macron

). This problem was even worse with the medieval Textura font. Hence, medieval scribes developed a rich set of abbreviations, including the overbar for an omitted m or n. The latter has survived into German handwriting, at least until the 1st half of the 20th century. Best wishes, Otto Stolz PS

Re: Small Latin Letter m with Macron

Dominikus Scherkl wrote: i. e. is an latin abbreviation for in exemplum meaning for example not that is. i. e. = id est = that is e. g. = exempli gratia = for example Cassel's English-German Dictionary, ISBN 0-02-522920-6, also says so. Best wishes, Otto Stolz

8-bit MIME (was: Documenting in Tamil Computing)

that recodes your 8-bit mail, you cannot claim that 8-bit mail is supported everywhere; you can only claim that your server compensates for the incompatibility of your MUA and the world at large. Best wishes, Otto Stolz

Re: Mapping from HTML to Unicode

4.01 is defined in http://www.w3.org/TR/html401/; recommended reading for every WWW author! Best wishes, Otto Stolz

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