In a message dated 12/7/2004 12:29:32 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
UCD, I
see them as doing wonderful things for MY neighborhood, asking nothing
from me in return. To me that deserves more thanks then me and my
house mates raking the leaves in front of our
When I watch Mr. Rogers, which hasn't been for a long time, I become a little uneasy. Here's a man with no apparent job, who's biggest thrill is the Speedy Delivery man stopping by. He then goes psychotic, and begins talking to his painting. Then he hallucinates about platypus run factories, a
Kyle, What Ray means to say is that we sat around smoking, but DIDN'T
INHALE
Joe C.
see, kyle®, this makes me laugh, and you amuse me. because
back in the day? we had these hookah pipes all over the
hood, and we were always sitting around smoking them and
well ok no we didn't, not really.
In a message dated 12/6/2004 11:48:10 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
The FOCP
Board won't take action on any proposal until such time they get a report from
the Planning Bommitee. There was a motion passed to encourage all dog owners
to properly license and
Another black eye for Penn's top-down, (yes) anointed, style of deciding
what's best for the great unwashed masses. (My prediction -- "Cereality" up the
street will take their waitperson's tacky bathrobes and fold up their silly
business before the Froot Loops al dente and Rice Krispies a la
Facilities and Real Estate
Spokesman Tony Sorrentino.
Now they have a Spokesman for Real Estate?
We are having active discussions with CVS and we hope to sign a lease
with them soon, Sorrentino said.
Mmmmh. Fruit-Loop-Bandaid-Peperoni Sundae?
You are receiving this because you are
We operated the very affordableGold Standard Cafeteria (along with
The Palladium) for twenty years in the very middle of the campus until our
leaseexpired (and was not renewed by Penn) in 2003.Along with
pushing out the food trucks and the dismantling theFood Court,
thisseems to bepart of a
Great another CVS!! Yup just like that 50's themed diner from a few years back-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Dec 7, 2004 8:56 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [UC] From today's DP
Another black eye for Penn's top-down, (yes) anointed, style of deciding what's best for
The University City Arts League is at 4226 Spruce Street. (215) 382-7811
It is an "in-House" Show/Sale. All of the Crafts are made by Staff, Students, Facultyand other Members.
We have: Pottery, Jewelry, Crocheted items, Hand Painted Silk Scarves, Flavored Vinegars, and other "foodstuffs",
Title: striking at strikes
The Carpenters Union is picketing outside of our soon-to-be bowling alley.
http://www.asc.upenn.edu/usr/cassidy/temp/strikes1.jpg
http://www.asc.upenn.edu/usr/cassidy/temp/strikes2.jpg
Nobody would talk to me, but my guess is they're hiring non-union
At 10:28 AM 12/7/2004, Kyle Cassidy wrote:
The Carpenters
Union is picketing outside of our soon-to-be bowling alley.
http://www.asc.upenn.edu/usr/cassidy/temp/strikes1.jpg
http://www.asc.upenn.edu/usr/cassidy/temp/strikes2.jpg
Nobody would talk to me, but my guess is they're hiring
This weekend! Come by and shop for crafts, art, clothing, jewelry,
cheap gifts, and other oddities. We'll have 40 vendors, music, food,
and fun.
THE ROTUNDA FLEA MARKET-A-THON
Sponored by The Foundation Community Arts Initiative, Vitamin D
Productions, and Sherman Community Arts
Sun Dec 12th
I noticed this strange looking camera contraption being towed by a minivan
and followed by a police escort recently around campus, and today found
out what it was.
I wonder what they are going to use this data for . . .
http://www.upenn.edu/almanac/volumes/v51/n14/traf_advis.html
The Virtual
If I am not mistaken, scab labor is labor hired to replace striking workers.
The trades people working on the project are not scabs, they are just
non-union.
Jonathan A. Cass
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What is your biggest issue? Scab labor?
In a message dated 12/7/2004 10:30:51 AM Eastern Standard Time, Ben Rhoades
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Sigh, my biggest issue with Philadelphia (and Penn in general)
-Ben
At 10:28 AM 12/7/2004, Kyle Cassidy wrote:
The Carpenters Union is picketing
At 11:48 AM 12/7/2004, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
What is your biggest issue? Scab labor?
Over-Unionization of the city/state which leads to everything being much
more unaffordable. It is possible to get a good wage and not be part of a
Union. Unions had their day (and a few actually do still
Hi,
It has been proven that unions keep the general wage rates up in an area.
Does anyone want to donate part of their wage to back-up their anti-unionism?
I think not. I don't get paid enough.
At 11:48 AM 12/7/2004, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
What is your biggest issue? Scab labor?
Unionists use the epithet scab to refer to workers who are willing to accept
terms that union workers have rejected... and that's why you are a civil
litigator, and not a labor law attorney.
In a message dated 12/7/2004 12:04:39 PM Eastern Standard Time, Jonathan Cass
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Unions exist to protect the interests of workers. They are meant to check the
abuses of employers.
Here is a great example heard on TODAY's Morning Edition:
Stressed-Out Game Designers Sue Software Maker
Those amazing video games that some people spend months
Ben Rhoades wrote:
At 11:48 AM 12/7/2004, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
What is your biggest issue? Scab labor?
Over-Unionization of the city/state which leads to everything being
much more unaffordable. It is possible to get a good wage and not be
part of a Union. Unions had their day (and a few
Um, he also forgot to remind people about the crime on the
you-know-which block of Hazel.
ELISABETH DUBIN
Hillier ARCHITECTURE
One South Penn Square, Philadelphia, PA 19107-3502 | T 215 636- | F
215 636-9989 | hillier.com
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Somehow I missed what's
been going on at the food court. Did something happen? Did they find
The Anthrax there?
ELISABETH DUBINHillier ARCHITECTUREOne
South Penn Square, Philadelphia, PA 19107-3502 | T 215 636- | F 215 636-9989
| hillier.com
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL
If they laid off all these people, they could afford to run septa and
probably have a surplus.
SEPTAs problems are much greater than the cost of their labour. While every
Philadelphian has their stories of rude SEPTA workers, most of them do their
jobs very well in work conditions that most of
At 01:07 PM 12/7/2004, Clinton, J. Scott wrote:
If they laid off all these people, they could afford to run septa and
probably have a surplus.
SEPTAs problems are much greater than the cost of their labour. While every
Philadelphian has their stories of rude SEPTA workers, most of them do their
At 01:00 PM 12/7/2004, Brian Siano wrote:
And pray tell, what is _your_ salary, and can you justify it when others
are willing (and capable) of doing your job for less?
My salary is not enough but that doesn't mean I think I should Unionize my
job classification to get more money and yes I can
Ben Rhoades wrote:
At 01:00 PM 12/7/2004, Brian Siano wrote:
And pray tell, what is _your_ salary, and can you justify it when
others are willing (and capable) of doing your job for less?
My salary is not enough but that doesn't mean I think I should
Unionize my job classification to get more
Bruce:
Additionally Merriam-Webster Online defines scab in the context we have
been discussing as:
b (1) : a worker who refuses to join a labor union (2) : a union member who
refuses to strike or returns to work before a strike has ended (3) : a
worker who accepts employment or replaces a union
Perhaps the explanation is that the definition has changed over time. See:
http://www.marxists.org/archive/connolly/1915/07/scab.htm
What is a scab?
A scab is a worker who in the course of a strike or lock out helps the
employer to keep his business going to dispense with the aid of the men
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Another black eye for Penn's top-down, (yes) anointed, style of
deciding what's best for the great unwashed masses. (My prediction --
Cereality up the street will take their waitperson's tacky bathrobes
and fold up their silly business before the Froot Loops al dente
At 01:38 PM 12/7/2004, Brian Siano wrote:
You're telling me that, rather than get more money, you would follow
principle and _not_ unionize your job classification? This doesn't sound
as though you're working for your own self-interest.
I'm not totally dumb, of course I'd rather have more money
At last night's Friends of Clark Park Board Meeting I spoke about a Pancake
Breakfast and Easter Egg Hunt in Clark Park. This is an idea I have been
discussing with people since last spring. Here are some of the details:
Date: Saturday, March 26, 2004
Time: Breakfast 9:00 am to
Title: Message
Yes but that is the past and I'd like to think the vast majority
of placesare past the point where they need unions and can get good labor
and pay adecent wage w/o having to have it be over the top because a mass of
peopleforce it to be.
I'd like to think that too, but do you
At 02:32 PM 12/7/2004, Clinton, J. Scott wrote:
I'd like to think that too, but
do you shop at Wal-Mart? A lot of people are starting to make a
distinction between minimum wage and living
wage. Personally, I believe that my earnings
impart a responsibility upon me to use those monies wisely...a
I get really tired of white-collar workers (and people in the upper middle
class) who bemoan Unions, but who do nothing to help working people make a
living wage.
In a message dated 12/7/2004 2:43:27 PM Eastern Standard Time, Ben Rhoades
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
At 02:32 PM 12/7/2004,
Ben Rhoades wrote:
At 01:38 PM 12/7/2004, Brian Siano wrote:
You're telling me that, rather than get more money, you would follow
principle and _not_ unionize your job classification? This doesn't
sound as though you're working for your own self-interest.
I'm not totally dumb, of course I'd
Ben Rhoades wrote:
At 02:32 PM 12/7/2004, Clinton, J. Scott wrote:
I'd like to think that too, but do you shop at Wal-Mart? A lot of
people are starting to make a distinction between minimum wage and
living wage.Personally, I believe that my earnings impart a
responsibility upon me to use
At 03:18 PM 12/7/2004, Brian Siano wrote:
So the yardstick we're using for determing pay scales is the _intent_ of
the employee to make the job a career.
As for your comment that many of the problems are people believing that
their job at Wal-mart should be something to support their family,
Iencourage all of you who are thinking about
union or non and minimum vs. living wages, particularly asthey relate to
Wal-Mart, to read Nickle and Dimed by Barbara Ehrenreich.
- Original Message -
From:
Ben Rhoades
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Sent: Tuesday, December 07,
Dubin, Elisabeth wrote:
Somehow I missed what's been going on at the food court. Did something
happen? Did they find The Anthrax there?
what's going on is that that penn is easing out of the
campus dining service business and going back to the days
when students found their meals at local
Stephen Fisher wrote:
Not to detract at all from their efforts but this cleanup entailed many
neighbors, myself included, cleaning our own yards. While we also
cleaned the yards of our neighbors that failed to do their part, we were
largely taking responsibility for our block. That's great
Dubin, Elisabeth wrote:
Um, he also forgot to remind people about the crime on the
you-know-which block of Hazel.
aw heck, I'm just waiting for the dp and the penn gazette to
run the cover stories on that. like they did the last time.
from pennsylvania gazette, november 1997:
Perhaps I am wrong, but as you responded to my post, I am assuming that you
are refering to me as being a member of the upper middle class who bemoans
unions while doing nothing to help working people make a living wage.
Please allow me a few pixels to defend myself.
- I doubt my family would
Title: RE: [UC] striking at strikes (nickle and dimed)
at the urging of many colleagues, i read nickle and dimed earlier this year and found myself thinking, more than anything else barbara ehrenreich is a snivling whiner who really ought to get a roommate and then she'd stop spending so
Title: West of 40th: there be dragons
from pennsylvania gazette, november 1997:
http://www.upenn.edu/gazette/1197/philly.html
When I started at penn in 1997, I was told at my orientation we recommend that you don't go west of 40th street. Too bad I'd already moved in on 46th I got
No--he first worked in Canada, but he returned to his birthplace--which
according to this:
http://www.who2.com/fredrogers.html
was actually Latrobe, PA, rather than Pittsburgh itself.
http://www.salon.com/people/bc/1999/08/10/rogers/
is another reference.
You can probably say that the show mr
Ben Rhoades wrote:
At 03:18 PM 12/7/2004, Brian Siano wrote:
So the yardstick we're using for determing pay scales is the _intent_
of the employee to make the job a career.
As for your comment that many of the problems are people believing
that their job at Wal-mart should be something to
Bill Sanderson wrote:
You can probably say that the show mr rogers was born in Canada--in which
case we're just arguing about symantics--sorry about that.
yes. I was talking about the character, mr rogers.
originating in canada. on the show, misterogers.
hasn't that been who stephen's been
Kyle Cassidy wrote:
from pennsylvania gazette, november 1997:
http://www.upenn.edu/gazette/1197/philly.html
When I started at penn in 1997, I was told at my orientation we
recommend that you don't go west of 40th street. Too bad I'd already
moved in on 46th I got held up at gunpoint about
I don't believe that Strikes is in a penn-leased building. That
building is not owned by Penn.
Jonathan A. Cass
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Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2004 3:38 PM
To: Dubin, Elisabeth
Cc: [EMAIL
Kyle Cassidy wrote:
at the urging of many colleagues, i read nickle and dimed earlier
this year and found myself thinking, more than anything else barbara
ehrenreich is a snivling whiner who really ought to get a roommate and
then she'd stop spending so much of her income on rent. having the
Jonathan Cass wrote:
I don't believe that Strikes is in a penn-leased building. That
building is not owned by Penn.
ok strike that.
once owned by penn? now owned by a private real estate
company? whose name is undisclosed?
"Well, the Wal-mart example is a good one however, I do look at it sort of
different, and maybe I'm living in the 50s. I see most of the people
working at as a job, not as a career. I don't think of Wal-mart as a
career place other than maybe some management. I shop there with that
mindset
I don't think I replied to your post ... I replied to Ben Rhoades.
Let me repeat, I get really tired of white-collar workers (and people in the
upper middle class) who bemoan Unions, but who do nothing to help working
people make a living wage.
Oh, and I work for the Department of Labor.
In a
Title: Message
Somehow,Mr.. Rhoades' comments bring
myfavorite description ofG.W. Bush to mind -- "He was born on third
base and thinks he hit a triple to get there".
The government's unemployment figures hide a
lot of hard truths -- that there are many people working at jobs that 20-30
http://mysite.verizon.net/vze3nxh2/
Here is something to take the edge off these heated discussions.
:Pete
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In a message dated 12/7/2004 6:16:33 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
And why
aren't they going to school or doing something to "improve" themselves so they
can find a career? Probably because they're not working at Wal-Mart OR
McDonalds; they're working at
In a message dated 12/7/2004 12:47:55 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
It has
been proven that unions keep the general wage rates up in an
area.
Citation please: OMB, CBO, Federal Reserve
PhDs currently employed by labor councils, liberal think tanks, and
munchkin
In a message dated 12/7/2004 12:49:11 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
that's
why you are a civil litigator, and not a labor law
attorney.
The Easter EggMan shows his dark side.
If he was a "labor lawyer" how would you determine his value to society, by
which side
In a message dated 12/7/2004 3:17:17 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
This
weekend! Come by and shop for crafts, art, clothing, jewelry, cheap gifts,
and other oddities. We'll have 40 vendors, music, food, and
fun.
I assume you have Teamsters unloading the
At 07:34 PM 12/7/2004, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I am a member of the IBT; is there anyone on this list who is a former or
current dues paying member of a labor union that is nationally affiliated?
Actually, I was a member of the Communications Workers of America 3xx (I
forget which, it was a
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 7 Dec 2004 18:57:43 EST
This is a serious social problem. It can't be answered by someone
who made the sacrifices to get an education or acquire skills and a
work ethic saying that anybody can do it. For some, it's too
late. I believe we have
Officer with the United Steel Workers Union (Financia Sec, Bargaining Unit
Charperson and Trustee (1992-1998), now with the American Federation of
Teachers (PFT Local 6, Phila)
Bruce Haskin
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, December
Secretarial unions at CCP and Temple.
Penn pays at a lower rate than the above. Don't even talk about Drexel.
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Bruce and Cynthia
Haskin
Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2004 8:31 PM
To: Ben; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
The two items today said a lot to me personally and
at least to me aresomewhat related.
As far as Penn's tenancy goes- I truly have not
understood why there has to be an office at Penn that DECIDES what is
best. Why not offer affordable rents that will stimulate commercial
activity and let
NCFLL (AFGE) # 630
In a message dated 12/7/04 8:20:57 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
At 07:34 PM 12/7/2004, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I am a member of the IBT; is there anyone on this list who is a former or
current dues paying member of a labor union that is nationally affiliated?
Union Wage Spillover Effects
Unions are likely to raise the wages of their members above market levels, and create the union-nonunion wage differential.
*The observed differential is between 10-25%.
*The observed differential doesn't fully tell us the correct story, because of a variety of
Local 668 SEIU
-Mark-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Dec 7, 2004 11:33 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [UC] striking at strikes Unions Right To Work NCFLL (AFGE) # 630In a message dated 12/7/04 8:20:57 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
At 07:34 PM 12/7/2004, [EMAIL
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