Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Advantages of Linux over XP?

2009-07-14 Thread egd
To put an end to the needless debate I ran a clear and rescan on a subset of my library using the same release of SC on Windows Server 2003 and Ubuntu 9.04 32 bit (my Desktop OS). To be clear, the W2k3 box doesn't have any firewall, AV or like software installed - it's basically a bare bones w2k3

Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Advantages of Linux over XP?

2009-07-14 Thread bernt
There is one big advantage with Linux, it's how it handles the memory. It never use a swap file unless it runs out of memory and it has never happend on my machine with 512MB ram. Windows always use a swap file no matter how much memory it has. My recommendation is the next time you rebuild you

Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Advantages of Linux over XP?

2009-07-14 Thread Pat Farrell
milosz wrote: > I just want objective information. I already have a system running on > XP with 3 TB of FLAC files. I don't have endless amounts of time to > fiddle with machines, there's other stuff to do, so I was trying to find > objective information to answer a question for myself: "would i

Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Advantages of Linux over XP?

2009-07-14 Thread Mnyb
Actually I *think* perl the scripting launguage used to code SqueezeCenter is a more linux native thing and runs better there. How about the databases MySQL and Sqlite ? -- Mnyb Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.c

Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Advantages of Linux over XP?

2009-07-14 Thread milosz
I just want objective information. I already have a system running on XP with 3 TB of FLAC files. I don't have endless amounts of time to fiddle with machines, there's other stuff to do, so I was trying to find objective information to answer a question for myself: "would it be worthwhile to re

Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Unable to play files with accented characters

2009-07-14 Thread Pierre
After further testing, the fix I made now let me play files with accented characters. However they won't mix with MusicIP. Other songs without the accented characters can mix. -- Pierre Pierre's Profile: http://forums.slim

Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Advantages of Linux over XP?

2009-07-14 Thread agillis
pfarrell;440719 Wrote: > milosz wrote: > > I'll keep looking. > > Why? What do you expect to find? Why does it matter? > > Which ever is faster is only going to be somewhat faster. Since Linux > is > free, it doesn't cost anything but time to try it and see if you think > > its faster. What t

Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Advantages of Linux over XP?

2009-07-14 Thread Goodsounds
agillis;440604 Wrote: > In many internet forums a comment like this would start a flame war > between linux and windows zelots. But most users in this forum are not > into flame wars so I don't think that will happen here. > > I have been in technology for years and have found that every operati

Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Advantages of Linux over XP?

2009-07-14 Thread Pat Farrell
milosz wrote: > I'll keep looking. Why? What do you expect to find? Why does it matter? Which ever is faster is only going to be somewhat faster. Since Linux is free, it doesn't cost anything but time to try it and see if you think its faster. What the rest of the world things is irrelevant.

Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Advantages of Linux over XP?

2009-07-14 Thread milosz
A search using the terms linux and benchmark did not produce any useful results. A search usinglinux search performance or linux search speed did not produce any useful results. A search using linux performance provided a lot of "it's generally agreed that Linux is better

Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Advantages of Linux over XP?

2009-07-14 Thread Pat Farrell
milosz wrote: > I looked at the FAQ and there was nothing there that addressed this. > Searching the fora, I couldn't find anything specific to query speed or > HTTP server speed under Linux either. I would not expect a definitive answer. And its not clear that any answer is generally true in

Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Advantages of Linux over XP?

2009-07-14 Thread milosz
I looked at the FAQ and there was nothing there that addressed this. Searching the fora, I couldn't find anything specific to query speed or HTTP server speed under Linux either. There's lots of discussions RE: Linux on various topics but I had no luck finding XP vs LINUX performance metrics. C

Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Problems with new Ubuntu 9.04 install

2009-07-14 Thread ralphmalph
In general in a multiuser environment I agree. But this is single access to me and I wanted to be sure so used 777 to see if it was the solution. The wiki advice was rw to all users I believe. It is at the bottom of the wiki on installing SC on linux heading Permissions issues with linux. --

Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Problems with new Ubuntu 9.04 install

2009-07-14 Thread SuperQ
You do not want to apply 777 to any files or directories on linux. This is very dangerous, where did you find these instructions? -- SuperQ SuperQ's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2139 View this

Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Problems with new Ubuntu 9.04 install

2009-07-14 Thread maggior
Did you apply "777" permissions to the directories in addition to the files? If you only applied it to the FLAC files, this may be your problem. -- maggior Rich - Setup: 2 SB3s, 3 Booms, 1 duet, 1 receiver. SuSE 11.0 Server running SqueezeCenter 7.3.3, MusicIP, and SqueezeSlave. Cu

Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Problems with new Ubuntu 9.04 install

2009-07-14 Thread ralphmalph
Yes I went all the way upto and including /mnt -- ralphmalph ralphmalph's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=31666 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=65608 _

[SlimDevices: Unix] Problems with new Ubuntu 9.04 install

2009-07-14 Thread ralphmalph
Setup SB3 Squeezecenter 7.3.3 fresh install wired network connection. So I have changed all the permissions as instructed by the Wiki to 777. I can play internet radio via the SB3 and Squeezecenter. When I try and play a flac file I get no sound the name of the track comes up (so it scanned the

Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Advantages of Linux over XP?

2009-07-14 Thread Pat Farrell
egd wrote: > Add him ("Goodsounds") to your > ignore list, the quality of discussion is immediately elevated. Done. Highly recommended. -- Pat Farrell http://www.pfarrell.com/ ___ unix mailing list unix@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevice

Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Advantages of Linux over XP?

2009-07-14 Thread egd
pfarrell;440614 Wrote: > Goodsounds wrote: > > 2. Linux users are very overrepresented in these forums > > God, you are a blowhard. > > This is the Unix section. Anyone with half a brain would expect that > nearly everyone in the Unix section is a user of, or interested in, > Unix/Linux/BSDPa

Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Advantages of Linux over XP?

2009-07-14 Thread Pat Farrell
radish wrote: > In general (and this is an area I do know a little about!) performance > on a non-memory starved machine will be the same between 32-bit and > 64-bit OS installs (as largely backed up by those links). That has been my experience as well, sometimes the 32 bit wins, as the working

Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Advantages of Linux over XP?

2009-07-14 Thread egd
radish;440611 Wrote: > In general (and this is an area I do know a little about!)... I know a loaded > question when I see one :-) -- egd Internet forums: conclusive proof depth of gene pool is indeed variable, monkeys can be taught to cut code, and world peace is utterly unrealistic... Int

Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Advantages of Linux over XP?

2009-07-14 Thread Pat Farrell
Goodsounds wrote: > 2. Linux users are very overrepresented in these forums God, you are a blowhard. This is the Unix section. Anyone with half a brain would expect that nearly everyone in the Unix section is a user of, or interested in, Unix/Linux/BSD -- Pat Farrell http://www.pfarrell.com/

Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Advantages of Linux over XP?

2009-07-14 Thread radish
egd;440537 Wrote: > Don't have a "reference" other than my personal experience trying both > 32 bit and 64 bit. Likely a result of the OS itself performing better > rather than SC behaving any differently. > > http://64-bit-computers.com/linux-ubuntu-610-64-bit-vs-32-bit-benchmark-test.html > h

Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Advantages of Linux over XP?

2009-07-14 Thread agillis
Goodsounds;440566 Wrote: > > > I'd venture to speculate two truths - > > 1. The VAST majority of SB owners run SC on windows machines without > ever having a performance or reliability issue or penalty for doing so > > 2. Linux users are very overrepresented in these forums, and their > voic

Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Unable to play files with accented characters

2009-07-14 Thread Pierre
I finally got some time to invest in solving that issue. Turns out that I am running MusicIP and had the following config for Squeezecenter: 1- Path to Music folder empty 2- MusicIP plugin configured to take Title, Artist and genre from MusicIP. I changed the plugin config to: 1- Path to Music

[SlimDevices: Unix] Connection issues

2009-07-14 Thread jamesho
Hi I've got some issues keeping the connections for the system together. Here are my setup details. I've got a Duet system. SC running on a Debian server. I have an IPCOP router. The IPCOP router has separate networks for wired and wireless segments. The router prevents devices on the wireless

Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Advantages of Linux over XP?

2009-07-14 Thread egd
Goodsounds;440566 Wrote: > Maggior has a point but overstates the case a bit. I think most "quasi > capable" windows users disable automatic updates, because it can be > annoying and sometimes disruptive. It's not a lot of work, maybe 3 mouse > clicks does it. AV scanning can be scheduled for off

Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Advantages of Linux over XP?

2009-07-14 Thread atrocity
Goodsounds;440566 Wrote: > I'd venture to speculate two truths - > > 1. The VAST majority of SB owners run SC on windows machines without > ever having a performance or reliability issue or penalty for doing so > > 2. Linux users are very overrepresented in these forums, and their > voices cou

Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Advantages of Linux over XP?

2009-07-14 Thread Goodsounds
egd;440549 Wrote: > if you do a little searching you'll find that it has indeed been > benchmarked and linux significantly outperforms xp when doing things > such as scanning one's library. Maggior has a point but overstates the case a bit. I think most "quasi capable" windows users disable auto

Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Advantages of Linux over XP?

2009-07-14 Thread egd
Goodsounds;440541 Wrote: > I'm not sure this comment is "referenceable" or has broad agreement > either. SC is pretty undemanding of the hardware and environment it runs > on. > > I thought the concensus was that it ran quite well on all operating > systems. if you do a little searching you'll

Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Advantages of Linux over XP?

2009-07-14 Thread maggior
Goodsounds;440541 Wrote: > I'm not sure this comment is "referenceable" or has broad agreement > either. SC is pretty undemanding of the hardware and environment it runs > on. > > I thought the concensus was that it ran quite well on all operating > systems. What I've found is that SC will run

Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Advantages of Linux over XP?

2009-07-14 Thread Goodsounds
egd;440449 Wrote: > ... The short answer is yes, SC will perform faster under Linux... I'm not sure this comment is "referenceable" or has broad agreement either. SC is pretty undemanding of the hardware and environment it runs on. I thought the concensus was that it ran quite well on all oper

Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Advantages of Linux over XP?

2009-07-14 Thread maggior
You will be underutilizing this machine if you load up Ubuntu and use it only as a server. As you've already noticed yourself, running SC will barely put a load on the CPU. To run dbpoweramp on the machine once you load Ubuntu, you will have to run Wine (a Linux Windows emulator). I recall read

Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Advantages of Linux over XP?

2009-07-14 Thread egd
radish;440536 Wrote: > Really...why? Any chance you could point me to a reference?Don't have a > "reference" other than my personal experience trying both 32 bit and 64 bit. Likely a result of the OS itself performing better rather than SC behaving any differently. -- egd Internet forums: c

Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Advantages of Linux over XP?

2009-07-14 Thread radish
egd;440449 Wrote: > even more so if you use a 64bit flavour. Really...why? Any chance you could point me to a reference? -- radish http://www.last.fm/user/polymeric radish's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member

Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Advantages of Linux over XP?

2009-07-14 Thread Aurumer
Thank you, sounds fine. Next time my windows quits working I'll give Ubuntu a try. -- Aurumer Aurumer's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=31601 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthr

Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Advantages of Linux over XP?

2009-07-14 Thread egd
Yes, you can copy the prefs file from the Windows installation to the Linux installation, so long as you know where to find and put it. After installing SC as described above in Ubuntu you can see where SC's files have been installed via the Synaptic package manager. You will have to edit the pa

Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Advantages of Linux over XP?

2009-07-14 Thread Aurumer
By the way... Ist there any possibility to transfer the server prefs form a Windows XP to a linux machine? -- Aurumer Aurumer's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=31601 View this thread: http://forum

Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Advantages of Linux over XP?

2009-07-14 Thread egd
This topic has been addressed many times in the past. The short answer is yes, SC will perform faster under Linux, and even more so if you use a 64bit flavour. -- egd Internet forums: conclusive proof depth of gene pool is indeed variable, monkeys can be taught to cut code, and world peace is

[SlimDevices: Unix] Advantages of Linux over XP?

2009-07-14 Thread milosz
I have SqueezeCenter running on a dedicated 32 bit XP machine right now, which has a 4-core Intel CoreDuo CPU at 2 gHz with 2 GB of RAM. (I got the quad core cheap and thought it would be ideal for this use, but there's hardly EVER any real lod on the CPU. The only time that CPU really seemed he