Re: Open Source Kickstarter Report Card (Updated)

2015-08-17 Thread Matthias Rebbe | M-R-D
> Am 18.08.2015 um 04:45 schrieb Peter W A Wood : > > There have been quite a few comments and clearly a number of different views > amongst members of the community. I would like to add my perspective. > > The LiveCode Kickstarter campaign was very unusual in that the LiveCode could > fulfi

RE: Open Source Kickstarter Report Card (Updated)

2015-08-17 Thread Lynn Fredricks
> "If your app includes FOSS, it must not cause any > non-FOSS Microsoft > software to become subject to the terms of any FOSS license." > Although Microsoft didn't name it, it's talking about GPL. > > But is it? GPL v2 and v3 are both on the OSI list of "approved" > licenses (what

Re: Open Source Kickstarter Report Card

2015-08-17 Thread RunRevPlanet
Hello Peter, Any chance of some basic improvements like edit bookmarks, or find and replace in text selections, with better keyboard shortcuts before Intelligent Code Completion? Peter TB Brett said: > My *guess* is that we'll have something > basic out by the end of the year -- Scott McDonal

Re: Open Source Kickstarter Report Card

2015-08-17 Thread RunRevPlanet
Richard said: > All the cool new greenfield stuff will > be just a playground for an aging > audience of a fixed size if newcomers are > disappointed with very basic > essentials. That's the thing, because I know how *awesome* LiveCode is, I have been willing to put up with the IDE as it sta

Re: Restore corrupted stack

2015-08-17 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 8/18/2015 12:44 AM, Peter Bogdanoff wrote: I saw this sort of corruption in the past (LC 5 or 6) where a stack functions correctly as far as I could tell while it is open. When it is closed and reopened the corruption message appears. In my case, I left the LC 7 stack open for some days, while

Re: Restore corrupted stack

2015-08-17 Thread Peter Bogdanoff
I’m aware of the tilde file naming while saving a stack. I didn’t see that. I saw this sort of corruption in the past (LC 5 or 6) where a stack functions correctly as far as I could tell while it is open. When it is closed and reopened the corruption message appears. In my case, I left the LC 7

Re: Open Source Kickstarter Report Card

2015-08-17 Thread Peter TB Brett
On 2015-08-18 04:36, Richard Gaskin wrote: Peter W A Wood wrote: On 18 Aug 2015, at 08:13, Richard Gaskin wrote: What usability standards do you feel are not well reflected in the current IDE, and if Kevin made you IDE Czar tomorrow what are the first three things you'd do to fix that? 1. In

Re: Open Source Kickstarter Report Card (Updated)

2015-08-17 Thread Richard Gaskin
Peter W A Wood wrote: > I believe that the statement “ it must not cause any non-FOSS > Microsoft software to become subject to the terms of any FOSS > license.” would specifically exclude the use of GPL licensed software > -

Re: Distribute beta versions of iOS app

2015-08-17 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 8/17/2015 10:00 PM, Brahmanathaswami wrote: *AirLaunch FTP* AirLaunch provides a built-in FTP client that will upload all the files for you, so there's no need to leave LiveCode. Or if you're using Dropbox, just move the files into the Public folder and you won't have to upload anything at al

Re: Open Source Kickstarter Report Card

2015-08-17 Thread Richard Gaskin
RunRevPlanet wrote: Here is my point and regret: every month that a new user downloads LiveCode, plays with the IDE, and then leaves (likely never return) and laughs with her colleagues about a code editor that doesn't have bookmarks or search and replace in selected text, is a month wasted in bu

Re: Open Source Kickstarter Report Card (Updated)

2015-08-17 Thread Peter W A Wood
Richard > On 18 Aug 2015, at 12:51, Richard Gaskin wrote: > > Peter W A Wood wrote: > > > I interpreted this clause from the latest Windows Store App Developer > > Agreement, to mean that GPL software cannot be sold via the App Store: > > > > d. FOSS Software. If your App includes FOSS, (i) y

Re: Open Source Kickstarter Report Card (Updated)

2015-08-17 Thread Richard Gaskin
Peter W A Wood wrote: > I interpreted this clause from the latest Windows Store App Developer > Agreement, to mean that GPL software cannot be sold via the App Store: > > d. FOSS Software. If your App includes FOSS, (i) you are > responsible for compliance with all applicable FOSS license terms,

Re: Open Source Kickstarter Report Card

2015-08-17 Thread Peter W A Wood
Richard > On 18 Aug 2015, at 11:36, Richard Gaskin wrote: > > Peter W A Wood wrote: > > >> On 18 Aug 2015, at 08:13, Richard Gaskin wrote: > >> > >> What usability standards do you feel are not well reflected in the > >> current IDE, and if Kevin made you IDE Czar tomorrow what are the > >> fir

Re: Open Source Kickstarter Report Card

2015-08-17 Thread JB
Ia rhea what you mean by PDF specs? PORTABLE DOCUMENT FORMAT (PDF) SPECIFICATIONS Technical Specifications Document John Balgenorth On Aug 17, 2015, at 7:37 PM, Monte Goulding wrote: > >> On 18 Aug 2015, at 11:50 am, Ralph DiMola wrote: >> >> How hard can it be to add pdf support to o

Re: Open Source Kickstarter Report Card

2015-08-17 Thread RunRevPlanet
Peter said: > I have no doubt that these promises > were very genuine. Clearly, LiveCode > hasn’t been able to deliver them in > the time they expected. I never doubt the sincerity of LiveCode Ltd. and the team behind it. But when a major feature which would be a tangible improvement for *ev

Re: Open Source Kickstarter Report Card

2015-08-17 Thread Monte Goulding
> On 18 Aug 2015, at 1:36 pm, Richard Gaskin wrote: > > > 3. Support of Multiple targets (like Xcode) > > What are "multiple targets" in an IDE? I’m guessing he means being able to have more than one set of standalone settings as a named target. You could include different stacks or extra fil

Re: Open Source Kickstarter Report Card

2015-08-17 Thread Richard Gaskin
Peter W A Wood wrote: >> On 18 Aug 2015, at 08:13, Richard Gaskin wrote: >> >> What usability standards do you feel are not well reflected in the >> current IDE, and if Kevin made you IDE Czar tomorrow what are the >> first three things you'd do to fix that? > > 1. Intelligent Code Completion (li

Re: Open Source Kickstarter Report Card (Updated)

2015-08-17 Thread Peter W A Wood
> On 18 Aug 2015, at 11:29, Richard Gaskin wrote: > > Peter W A Wood wrote: > > > After all, it looks to me that you cannot sell GPL licensed software > > through the Windows App Store > > I couldn't find anything definitive on that. I did find some older articles > about Win8 licensing

Re: Open Source Kickstarter Report Card (Updated)

2015-08-17 Thread Richard Gaskin
Peter W A Wood wrote: > After all, it looks to me that you cannot sell GPL licensed software > through the Windows App Store I couldn't find anything definitive on that. I did find some older articles about Win8 licensing suggesting FOSS was prohibited, but I also found this one from 2011

Re: Open Source Kickstarter Report Card (Updated)

2015-08-17 Thread Richard Gaskin
Peter W A Wood wrote: > Does anybody still think it is worth LiveCode supporting Windows > 8 Phone? If you and I bought Win8 phones to test with we'd double the installed base. :) I don't think there's a need for Win *phone* per se, but we do need touch support on Windows, and Ubuntu as well

Re: Open Source Kickstarter Report Card (Updated)

2015-08-17 Thread Peter W A Wood
Monte > On 18 Aug 2015, at 10:52, Monte Goulding wrote: > > >> On 18 Aug 2015, at 12:45 pm, Peter W A Wood wrote: >> >> PS Does anybody still think it is worth LiveCode supporting Windows 8 Phone? > > Nope… I presume the goal will be bumped to Windows 10??? Perhaps there is no need for a re

Re: Open Source Kickstarter Report Card (Updated)

2015-08-17 Thread Roger Eller
I think MS learned a valuable lesson from RT with its limited subset of apps written for the ARM CPU. Modern MS tablets are using the new quad-core Atom which is Intel. It will even run LiveCode on a tablet! If Windows phone does the same, there's no reason not to support it. On Aug 17, 2015 10:

Re: Distribute beta versions of iOS app

2015-08-17 Thread Brahmanathaswami
" *AirLaunch FTP* AirLaunch provides a built-in FTP client that will upload all the files for you, so there's no need to leave LiveCode. Or if you're using Dropbox, just move the files into the Public folder and you won't have to upload anything at all. Your 10 last-used server logins are s

Re: Distribute beta versions of iOS app

2015-08-17 Thread Brahmanathaswami
hhhm.. Do I read that it is a simple as supplying a URL like this: https://www.himalayanacademy.com/apps/MyNewApp.app and sending that to someone who is on the provisioning profile? Swasti Astu, Be Well! Brahmanathaswami Kauai's Hindu Monastery www.HimalayanAcademy.com J. Landman Gay wrot

Re: Open Source Kickstarter Report Card

2015-08-17 Thread Peter W A Wood
Richard > On 18 Aug 2015, at 08:13, Richard Gaskin wrote: > > What usability standards do you feel are not well reflected in the current > IDE, and if Kevin made you IDE Czar tomorrow what are the first three things > you'd do to fix that? 1. Intelligent Code Completion (like intelliSense) 2.

Re: Open Source Kickstarter Report Card (Updated)

2015-08-17 Thread Mike Bonner
Windows 8? No. 10? Yeah probably. If LC can be updated to be compliant with the UAP (universal app platform) If I understand correctly, dong that means it'll run on win 10, win 10 phones etc. Not sure how the backwards compatibility works though, and its possible I am way off base here too. On M

Re: Open Source Kickstarter Report Card (Updated)

2015-08-17 Thread Monte Goulding
> On 18 Aug 2015, at 12:45 pm, Peter W A Wood wrote: > > PS Does anybody still think it is worth LiveCode supporting Windows 8 Phone? Nope… I presume the goal will be bumped to Windows 10??? ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com

Re: Open Source Kickstarter Report Card (Updated)

2015-08-17 Thread Peter W A Wood
There have been quite a few comments and clearly a number of different views amongst members of the community. I would like to add my perspective. The LiveCode Kickstarter campaign was very unusual in that the LiveCode could fulfil all of the rewards without actually having to complete the proje

Re: Open Source Kickstarter Report Card

2015-08-17 Thread JB
Thanks for the info. I did not know what PDFium was and I have never programmed a widget either. As you can see I am very limited at moment. John Balgenorth On Aug 17, 2015, at 7:37 PM, Monte Goulding wrote: > >> On 18 Aug 2015, at 11:50 am, Ralph DiMola wrote: >> >> How hard can it be to

Re: Open Source Kickstarter Report Card

2015-08-17 Thread Monte Goulding
> On 18 Aug 2015, at 11:50 am, Ralph DiMola wrote: > > How hard can it be to add pdf support to open-source? > > I read the PDF spec and got a headache on the 3 page. I know that PDFium is > doing the heavy lifting but the PDF spec is nasty. Add bookmarks, PDF fields > and java into the mix and

Re: Open Source Kickstarter Report Card (Updated)

2015-08-17 Thread Peter W A Wood
I forgot to add the most important promise … LiveCode being open-sourced … as kindly pointed out by Jacque Landman Gay. LIVECODE KICKSTARTER REPORT CARD The first thing to note is that all the Kickstarter rewards have been delivered. The second thing to note is that LiveCode has open-sourced Li

Re: Distribute beta versions of iOS app

2015-08-17 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 8/17/2015 6:41 PM, Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami wrote: Assuming the UDID's of the devices are in your provisioning profile is there an easy way the distribute the app to remote beta testers outside of apple's ecosystem? Some download URL from our web server? There's AirLaunch, for one:

Open Source Kickstarter Report Card (Updated)

2015-08-17 Thread Peter W A Wood
I have updated my KickStarter report card thanks to the information about the new player for Windows being planned for LiveCode 8.0 that Tom Bodine kindly provided. As I understand, the phrase “new visual editor” refers to the new IDE. LIVECODE KICKSTARTER REPORT CARD The first thing to note i

Re: Open Source Kickstarter Report Card

2015-08-17 Thread JB
I have never used LiveCode Builder, IIRC. so I don’t know what it takes to help. John Balgenorth On Aug 17, 2015, at 6:51 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: > JB wrote: > >> How hard can it be to add pdf support to open-source? > > Technically, it's a matter of copying the GPLv3 license file into tha

Re: Open Source Kickstarter Report Card

2015-08-17 Thread JB
I have not studied Java at all. Does Apple have any example code that could be modified? John Balgenorth On Aug 17, 2015, at 6:50 PM, Ralph DiMola wrote: > -Original Message- > From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf > Of JB > Sent: Monday, August 17

Re: Open Source Kickstarter Report Card

2015-08-17 Thread Richard Gaskin
JB wrote: How hard can it be to add pdf support to open-source? Technically, it's a matter of copying the GPLv3 license file into that repository, and adding an appropriate note to the main source file. It seems the considerations here aren't technical. I assume the code is in C++ or Obh

RE: Open Source Kickstarter Report Card

2015-08-17 Thread Ralph DiMola
-Original Message- From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of JB Sent: Monday, August 17, 2015 9:41 PM To: How to use LiveCode Subject: Re: Open Source Kickstarter Report Card How hard can it be to add pdf support to open-source? I read the PDF spec and

Re: Open Source Kickstarter Report Card

2015-08-17 Thread RunRevPlanet
I am using LiveCode 8.0 DP2 as my baseline, as I understand it to be the future and not the 7.0 series. And my comments are from a Windows perspective. Richard said: > What usability standards do you feel are > not well reflected in the current IDE, > and if Kevin made you IDE Czar tomorrow >

Re: Open Source Kickstarter Report Card

2015-08-17 Thread JB
How hard can it be to add pdf support to open-source? I assume the code is in C++ or Obhective-C. I am not a C programmer but I have learned a little about it and might be willing to help. First of all you would need to understand I am not completely up to par on C so I would need some help and

Re: Open Source Kickstarter Report Card

2015-08-17 Thread Richard Gaskin
Monte Goulding wrote: >> On 18 Aug 2015, at 11:04 am, Richard Gaskin wrote: >> >> Where? Maybe my coffee's worn off, but I can't find a dollar >> value for points on that page. > > Add Ons you can get with credits. > 20 credits are included with every business license. Spend your > credits on the

Re: Open Source Kickstarter Report Card

2015-08-17 Thread JB
I think your question about the indy license including the listed PDF support has been answered in that statement. The key word is exclusive. It looks like open-source needs to step up on their own. John Balgenorth On Aug 17, 2015, at 6:14 PM, Monte Goulding wrote: > >> On 18 Aug 2015, at

Re: Open Source Kickstarter Report Card

2015-08-17 Thread Monte Goulding
> On 18 Aug 2015, at 11:04 am, Richard Gaskin > wrote: > > Where? Maybe my coffee's worn off, but I can't find a dollar value for > points on that page. Add Ons you can get with credits. 20 credits are included with every business license. Spend your credits on these list of exclusive add o

Re: Open Source Kickstarter Report Card

2015-08-17 Thread Richard Gaskin
Monte Goulding wrote: > The page states that a credit has a value of $99. Where? Maybe my coffee's worn off, but I can't find a dollar value for points on that page. -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Systems Software Design and Development for the Desktop, Mobile, and the Web ___

Re: Open Source Kickstarter Report Card

2015-08-17 Thread JB
Everyone said PDF support will be available for 1 credit. So you got your wish. Now they want to know if the indy license will include it. John Balgenorth On Aug 17, 2015, at 5:02 PM, Ralph DiMola wrote: > I had a one-on-one with Mark at RR14. We talked about PDF support. We > discussed a w

Re: Open Source Kickstarter Report Card

2015-08-17 Thread Richard Gaskin
RunRevPlanet wrote: > Richard Gaskin wrote: >> RunRevPlanet wrote: >>> I understand that things take longer than expected, but when I read >>> the Kickstarter Campaign it is clear that the new IDE is a core >>> part of the next generation. It is not a stretch goal, and is >>> repeatedly emphasise

RE: Open Source Kickstarter Report Card

2015-08-17 Thread Ralph DiMola
I had a one-on-one with Mark at RR14. We talked about PDF support. We discussed a widget using PDFium. Mark and the team are well aware of the need of PDF support. I'm sure it's on the hot list. Ralph DiMola IT Director Evergreen Information Services rdim...@evergreeninfo.net _

Re: Open Source Kickstarter Report Card

2015-08-17 Thread Monte Goulding
> On 18 Aug 2015, at 9:33 am, Monte Goulding > wrote: > > t’s quite possible that they could release all the add ons you can buy with > your credits as dual license but just not include them (extra credits) in the > Indy license Hmm… looking at the page a bit more I see mobile camera support

Distribute beta versions of iOS app

2015-08-17 Thread Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami
Assuming the UDID's of the devices are in your provisioning profile is there an easy way the distribute the app to remote beta testers outside of apple's ecosystem? Some download URL from our web server? BR ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lis

Re: Open Source Kickstarter Report Card

2015-08-17 Thread Monte Goulding
> On 18 Aug 2015, at 8:19 am, Richard Gaskin wrote: > > > It would seem what they showed then was less advanced than what anyone here > would need. And since you know of a good library that's cross-platform with > compatible licensing you're ahead of them. Actually no. They are fully aware

Re: Open Source Kickstarter Report Card

2015-08-17 Thread JB
On Aug 17, 2015, at 3:19 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: > > This implies that anyone using a proprietary license should be able to obtain > this, and the other add-ons there, as a separate purchase. But since no > pricing is available for any of them in any currency other than "credits", > the d

Re: Open Source Kickstarter Report Card

2015-08-17 Thread Richard Gaskin
Monte Goulding wrote: >> On 18 Aug 2015, at 7:21 am, Richard Gaskin wrote: >> On the one hand I don't recall any specific promises made about >> PDF rendering in terms of licensing, but on the other hand that >> PDF widget was the example used in Kevin's video from July 2014 >> to demonstrate the

Re: Open Source Kickstarter Report Card

2015-08-17 Thread RunRevPlanet
> Irrespective of things taking longer > that forecast (or desired) I understand that things take longer than expected, but when I read the Kickstarter Campaign it is clear that the new IDE is a core part of the next generation. It is not a stretch goal, and is repeatedly emphasised as a core pa

Re: mouse pointer hot spot is way off

2015-08-17 Thread Peter Haworth
There's pretty persuasive evidence now that the shadowed variable bug is caused by stopping a debug run early. Since I trained myself to let debug run to the end of its natural course, I have not seen the problem. Hopefully that will help the team figure out the cause and fix it. On Mon, Aug 17,

Re: Open Source Kickstarter Report Card

2015-08-17 Thread Monte Goulding
> On 18 Aug 2015, at 7:27 am, Lyn Teyla wrote: > > It's listed (under 'Add Ons you can get with credits') as Business-only on > the pricing page: > > https://livecode.com/products/livecode-platform/pricing/ > Ah… I see. It’s a closed

Re: Open Source Kickstarter Report Card

2015-08-17 Thread Lyn Teyla
Richard Gaskin wrote: > On the one hand I don't recall any specific promises made about PDF rendering > in terms of licensing, but on the other hand that PDF widget was the example > used in Kevin's video from July 2014 to demonstrate the v8 architecture we > all funded in the Kickstarter campa

Re: Open Source Kickstarter Report Card

2015-08-17 Thread Monte Goulding
> On 18 Aug 2015, at 7:21 am, Richard Gaskin wrote: > > On the one hand I don't recall any specific promises made about PDF rendering > in terms of licensing, but on the other hand that PDF widget was the example > used in Kevin's video from July 2014 to demonstrate the v8 architecture we > a

Re: Open Source Kickstarter Report Card

2015-08-17 Thread Richard Gaskin
Monte Goulding wrote: >> On 18 Aug 2015, at 6:47 am, Richard Gaskin wrote: >> >> There's a PDF widget? > > I believe there’s one in development based on PDFium On the one hand I don't recall any specific promises made about PDF rendering in terms of licensing, but on the other hand that PDF widg

Re: Open Source Kickstarter Report Card

2015-08-17 Thread Peter TB Brett
On 2015-08-17 20:13, Richard Gaskin wrote: William Prothero wrote: I’m not at all concerned about the BAF. Perhaps I’ve missed some critical info, but comments have been made about zip and pdf support perhaps not being in the indie versions. This would trouble me. What troubles me is how hear

Re: mouse pointer hot spot is way off

2015-08-17 Thread Dr. Hawkins
On Mon, Aug 17, 2015 at 9:17 AM, Devin Asay wrote: > I have seen this and can reproduce it reliably. On a Mac, if you have two > monitors (or more I suppose), and you open a script editor window, it > initially opens on the same screen as your LiveCode IDE; on the "main > screen” as determined by

Re: JSON, URL-encode, and UTF-8

2015-08-17 Thread Monte Goulding
> On 18 Aug 2015, at 6:54 am, J. Landman Gay wrote: > > Thanks Monte. The JSON is created by EasyJSON from a LC array. Most of the > values in the array are in foreign languages with lots of non-ascii > characters, and those will become the values in the parameter string that I > will send in

Re: JSON, URL-encode, and UTF-8

2015-08-17 Thread J. Landman Gay
Thanks Monte. The JSON is created by EasyJSON from a LC array. Most of the values in the array are in foreign languages with lots of non-ascii characters, and those will become the values in the parameter string that I will send in a POST. It doesn't look like EasyJSON does any UTF8 encoding wh

Re: Open Source Kickstarter Report Card

2015-08-17 Thread Monte Goulding
> On 18 Aug 2015, at 6:47 am, Richard Gaskin wrote: > > There's a PDF widget? I believe there’s one in development based on PDFium ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage

Re: Open Source Kickstarter Report Card

2015-08-17 Thread Monte Goulding
> On 18 Aug 2015, at 1:29 am, William Prothero wrote: > > I contributed to kickstarter because I saw the vision of a reasonably priced > authoring system that kept up with the always evolving technology. Some > technologies are important to a few high level developers, while others > become

Re: Open Source Kickstarter Report Card

2015-08-17 Thread Richard Gaskin
Monte Goulding wrote: > So a PDF widget isn’t a Business only license? There's a PDF widget? -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Systems Software Design and Development for the Desktop, Mobile, and the Web ambassa...@fourthwor

Re: Open Source Kickstarter Report Card

2015-08-17 Thread Monte Goulding
> On 18 Aug 2015, at 4:13 am, Richard Gaskin wrote: > > PDF on-screen rendering is not available in any LiveCode edition, and I don't > recall seeing it on either the Kickstarter stretch goals or either of the two > emails this quarter about new proprietary-only features. So a PDF widget isn’

Re: mouse pointer hot spot is way off

2015-08-17 Thread Mark Talluto
> On Aug 17, 2015, at 1:12 PM, Dar Scott mailto:d...@swcp.com>> > wrote: > > Mark wrote, >> Could be related to bug: http://quality.runrev.com/show_bug.cgi?id=15366 >> >> >

Re: JSON, URL-encode, and UTF-8

2015-08-17 Thread Monte Goulding
I think we would need to see the API to know about the urlEncoding. Is it a parameter in your query string? If you need to urlEncode it will be the last thing you do. If you are using one of the script libraries the UTF8 encoding may be done for you. If you are using mergJSON then UTF8 encode an

Re: mouse pointer hot spot is way off

2015-08-17 Thread Dar Scott
Mark wrote, > Could be related to bug: http://quality.runrev.com/show_bug.cgi?id=15366 > I wonder if it is related to bug that existed at one time where one couldn’t drag a LiveCode window on a second monitor above the top of the main monitor.

Re: Open Source Kickstarter Report Card

2015-08-17 Thread Richard Gaskin
Terence Heaford wrote: >> On 17 Aug 2015, at 19:13, Richard Gaskin wrote: >> >> and I don't recall seeing it on either the Kickstarter stretch goals > > Are we to conclude form all these type of comments that if it was not > in the KickStarter Stretch goals then it’s fair game to be omitted > from

Re: Open Source Kickstarter Report Card

2015-08-17 Thread Roger Eller
So, with an Apple personal developer license (the new free one), you can use the LC Community version to deploy and test on a personal iOS device? I think the answer is yes, right? ~Roger On Mon, Aug 17, 2015 at 3:28 PM, Kevin Miller wrote: > As we've said, we aren't removing anything. You've

Re: Open Source Kickstarter Report Card

2015-08-17 Thread Thomas McGrath III
Ralph, Thanks for clarifying that. Kevin, That’s why I asked first before assuming. Thanks for clarifying as well. (Might want to include something to that affect on the pricing page.) Back to my woodwork. Tom > On Aug 17, 2015, at 3:28 PM, Kevin Miller wrote: > > As we've said, we aren't

Re: mouse pointer hot spot is way off

2015-08-17 Thread Dar Scott
Yay! That’s it. Second monitor with top above the main monitor with LiveCode window top above the same thing. This might be a bad fix for another bug, the one that blocks a stack from going higher than the tool bar. I know how it is about having work to get done and repeating little worka

Re: Open Source Kickstarter Report Card

2015-08-17 Thread Kevin Miller
As we've said, we aren't removing anything. You've always been able to build for iOS in Community. The fact you can't deploy to the store is down to Apple's licensing incompatibility with the GPL, nothing to do with us and no change there on our part. > On 17 Aug 2015, at 20:18, Thomas McGrath

RE: Open Source Kickstarter Report Card

2015-08-17 Thread Ralph DiMola
Tom, It's an Apple's restriction. Although you can generate and test Open Source iOS apps you can't submit them to the iStore. Apple does not approve open source apps. I'm not sure if the iOS option is disabled on the community version, but I don’t think so. Ralph DiMola IT Director Evergreen

Re: Open Source Kickstarter Report Card

2015-08-17 Thread Thomas McGrath III
I haven’t posted in a long long time and I have a question. I just reread the entire Kickstarter Campaign promises and they state very clearly that IOS deployment is included in the open source edition "It will run on every popular platform and device.” and “...running on six platforms - Window

Re: Open Source Kickstarter Report Card

2015-08-17 Thread William Prothero
Terry: This was my concern. Richard: Thanks for clarifying. Sorry if I spread mis-information. But I did read it, so the clarification is helpful, and appropriate (at least for me). Regards, Bill > On Aug 17, 2015, at 11:33 AM, Terence Heaford wrote: > > >> On 17 Aug 2015, at 19:13, Richard G

JSON, URL-encode, and UTF-8

2015-08-17 Thread J. Landman Gay
I've confused myself. I need to send JSON to a server. The values will have foreign characters in them. So I think I need to use textEncode to convert it to UTF8 and also it needs to be URL encoded. Is that right? And if so, what order do I do it in? Do I URL-encode each value in the array, th

Re: Open Source Kickstarter Report Card

2015-08-17 Thread Terence Heaford
> On 17 Aug 2015, at 19:13, Richard Gaskin wrote: > > and I don't recall seeing it on either the Kickstarter stretch goals Are we to conclude form all these type of comments that if it was not in the KickStarter Stretch goals then it’s fair game to be omitted from future Open Source releases

Re: Open Source Kickstarter Report Card

2015-08-17 Thread Richard Gaskin
William Prothero wrote: > I’m not at all concerned about the BAF. Perhaps I’ve missed some > critical info, but comments have been made about zip and pdf support > perhaps not being in the indie versions. This would trouble me. What troubles me is how hearsay like that gets started, and then how

Re: Open Source Kickstarter Report Card

2015-08-17 Thread William Prothero
Jackie: I’m not at all concerned about the BAF. Perhaps I’ve missed some critical info, but comments have been made about zip and pdf support perhaps not being in the indie versions. This would trouble me. They seem like the kind of widely used technology that would attract serious developers, w

Re: Open Source Kickstarter Report Card

2015-08-17 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 8/17/2015 10:29 AM, William Prothero wrote: The idea that the livecode vision would be “frozen in time” and future enhancements would be charged extra, certainly is contrary to what I had expected. If we're talking about the BAF, I think people are still missing the key info Brett provided.

Re: mouse pointer hot spot is way off

2015-08-17 Thread Mark Talluto
> On Aug 17, 2015, at 9:17 AM, Devin Asay wrote: > > >> On Aug 15, 2015, at 8:37 AM, Dar Scott wrote: >> >> Hi, I’m an old-timer who has been away from the list for a while. >> >> I’ve run into a problem and I think it is a LiveCode problem but it might be >> an OS X problem or some combina

Re: Bug getting group name, plse check

2015-08-17 Thread Peter Haworth
Björnke's Docu2 dictionary tool. On Mon, Aug 17, 2015 at 9:02 AM Richard Gaskin wrote: > William Prothero wrote: > > > Regarding tagging, searching, etc, I’ve experienced very primitive > > search boxes and they can be extremely primitive. (read useless > > almost). It is very difficult to bu

Re: mouse pointer hot spot is way off

2015-08-17 Thread Devin Asay
> On Aug 15, 2015, at 8:37 AM, Dar Scott wrote: > > Hi, I’m an old-timer who has been away from the list for a while. > > I’ve run into a problem and I think it is a LiveCode problem but it might be > an OS X problem or some combination. > > I’m using 6.7.5. > > Very often the hot spot i

Re: Bug getting group name, plse check

2015-08-17 Thread Richard Gaskin
William Prothero wrote: > Regarding tagging, searching, etc, I’ve experienced very primitive > search boxes and they can be extremely primitive. (read useless > almost). It is very difficult to build a great search system. Google > has done that. It is possible to get Google to index web pages. >

Re: Restore corrupted stack

2015-08-17 Thread Bob Sneidar
This happened to me the first time I opened a stack in version 7. Check to see if there is a stack file with a tilde (~) in the name in the same folder as the original stack. When LC attempts to convert a stack, it saves the old stack using a tilde in the name so you can recover if something has

Re: Bug getting group name, plse check

2015-08-17 Thread Mike Bonner
Its pretty easy to set up a custom search engine in google. I created a cse restricted to 4 sites. www.livecode.com forums.livecode.com lessons.livecode.com and the nabble site. I'm sure there are settings that might help it work better. Like all google search, you can improve results with quote

Re: Open Source Kickstarter Report Card

2015-08-17 Thread William Prothero
I contributed to kickstarter because I saw the vision of a reasonably priced authoring system that kept up with the always evolving technology. Some technologies are important to a few high level developers, while others become widely adopted, like pdf and zip. The idea that the livecode vision

Re: Nice to Meet You!

2015-08-17 Thread Ray Horsley
I know - but we sure enjoyed the weekend. On Aug 17, 2015 9:54 PM, "Mark Wieder" wrote: > On 08/17/2015 05:44 AM, Ray wrote: > > My wife and I are in Edinburgh over the weekend just to see Scotland's >> beautiful capital city. >> > > OMG! You're in Edinburgh during festival month and you're only

Re: Bug getting group name, plse check

2015-08-17 Thread William Prothero
Folks: My initial comment arose because I, through searching the dictionary, couldn’t find how to get the group name of a control that was in a group. The best result I had was by searching with google. I could enter something like: “How do I get the group name of the group that a control is wit

Re: How to minimize delay when playing an audio clip

2015-08-17 Thread Chris Sheffield
Another trick that I’ve used in the past (when using players; I’ve haven’t used imported audio clips much) is to play a very short, silent audio file at some point in a preOpenCard or openCard handler. This kind of gets the audio ball rolling so to speak, then when I need to play my actual audio

Re: Nice to Meet You!

2015-08-17 Thread Mark Wieder
On 08/17/2015 05:44 AM, Ray wrote: My wife and I are in Edinburgh over the weekend just to see Scotland's beautiful capital city. OMG! You're in Edinburgh during festival month and you're only staying for a weekend? -- Mark Wieder ahsoftw...@gmail.com

Re: Open Source Kickstarter Report Card

2015-08-17 Thread Paul Dupuis
On 8/17/2015 10:47 AM, Richmond wrote: > On 17/08/15 17:40, Richard Gaskin wrote: >> RunRevPlanet wrote: >> >>> Thank you Richmond: >>> OH! Where is the unified IDE that was waved around during the Kickstarter thing, and doesn't seem to have come up on the 'Report Card'? >>> >>> Duri

Re: Open Source Kickstarter Report Card

2015-08-17 Thread Richmond
On 17/08/15 17:40, Richard Gaskin wrote: RunRevPlanet wrote: Thank you Richmond: OH! Where is the unified IDE that was waved around during the Kickstarter thing, and doesn't seem to have come up on the 'Report Card'? During the Kickstarter Campaign it quite plainly says under the heading o

Re: Open Source Kickstarter Report Card

2015-08-17 Thread Richard Gaskin
RunRevPlanet wrote: Thank you Richmond: OH! Where is the unified IDE that was waved around during the Kickstarter thing, and doesn't seem to have come up on the 'Report Card'? During the Kickstarter Campaign it quite plainly says under the heading of, What is your money going toward? "We wi

Nice to Meet You!

2015-08-17 Thread Ray
My wife and I are in Edinburgh over the weekend just to see Scotland's beautiful capital city. On our way to the airport today we to stopped by Livecode's office. I would have been happy just to say hello to Heather, probably the only staff member who might remember me from a conference years

Re: Open Source Kickstarter Report Card

2015-08-17 Thread Richmond
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1755283828/open-source-edition-of-livecode/description "Fall 2013 Final Delivery" 2 years behind completion. Richmond. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to sub

Re: Open Source Kickstarter Report Card

2015-08-17 Thread RunRevPlanet
Thank you Richmond: > OH! Where is the unified IDE that was waved around > during the Kickstarter thing, and doesn't seem to > have come up on the 'Report Card'? During the Kickstarter Campaign it quite plainly says under the heading of, What is your money going toward? "We will introduce a new

Re: Open Source Kickstarter Report Card

2015-08-17 Thread Richmond
On 17/08/15 13:16, Mark Schonewille wrote: "At the time of the Kickstarter campaign" was not made explicit. +1 Indeed. -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer KvK: 5

Re: Open Source Kickstarter Report Card

2015-08-17 Thread Mark Schonewille
"At the time of the Kickstarter campaign" was not made explicit. -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer KvK: 50277553 Installer Maker for LiveCode: http://qery.us/468

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