Re: Another Browser Widget Question

2017-07-28 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2017-07-28 20:35, Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode wrote: I´ve just filed a bug report about the problem that links that should open in a separate tab are not opened in Browserwidget Bug 20200 Thanks Matthias. In this case - I think this

Re: controlNames deprecated??

2017-07-28 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
Hi Bob, On 2017-07-28 19:52, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode wrote: I can get the controlnames of a card, but at first blush the list does not include button names. However it *does* list a great many numbers of 4 digits. So I tried looking up controlNames in the dictionary and there is no entry

Re: HTML5: mixed signals

2017-07-28 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2017-07-28 19:49, Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode wrote: It turns out that teachers who make software at home, in their own time, do NOT own the copyright to their work if they are under contract to schools unless this has been explicitly "sorted out" in advance . . . a situation that,

Re: Another Browser Widget Question

2017-07-28 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2017-07-28 20:18, Bleiler, Timothy via use-livecode wrote: I don’t see any other messages in the dictionary that look applicable. If one of these was expected to work, then I’ll file the bug report. Please do file a report - they are the only messages it sends, so if you get none of them

Re: template stacks

2017-07-28 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2017-07-28 20:12, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode wrote: On 7/28/17 12:35 PM, Mark Waddingham via use-livecode wrote: On 2017-07-28 19:33, Mark Waddingham via use-livecode wrote: That being said Ali has been looking at this - we don't want a repeat of the 8.1.6-RC-2 'balls-up

Re: Another Browser Widget Question

2017-07-28 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2017-07-28 19:30, Bleiler, Timothy via use-livecode wrote: It’s the browser’s responsibility to handle this html syntax https://www.w3schools.com; target="_blank">Visit W3Schools Is there a way to deal with this using the browser widget in Livecode? In the context of the browser widget,

Re: template stacks

2017-07-28 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2017-07-28 19:33, Mark Waddingham via use-livecode wrote: That being said Ali has been looking at this - we don't want a repeat of the 8.1.6-RC-2 'balls-up' - and that was entirely down to a spelling error which *perhaps* would not have happened had we had a more structured approach

Re: template stacks

2017-07-28 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2017-07-28 19:20, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode wrote: I haven't suggested we get rid of the device-oriented sizes, only questioning the utility of creating and maintaining a prefs setting for the Default size. Heh - well I perhaps got the wrong end of the stick of this thread then :)

Re: Importing Unicode from MySQL

2017-07-28 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2017-07-28 15:24, Trevor DeVore via use-livecode wrote: SQL Yoga does not. I'm not familiar with the SET NAMES query so I don't know what the down sides are. None as far as I can see :) See: https://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.7/en/charset-connection.html Basically SET NAMES and related

Re: Web vs Native (was Re: HTML5 limitations?)

2017-07-28 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2017-07-28 19:01, Mark Waddingham via use-livecode wrote: Right now JS/HTML5/CSS etc. has the edge over LiveCode in creating these rich UIs. Now, to be honest, the acceleratedRendering mode of LiveCode (which has been around for years) is no different from the underlying tech in browsers

Re: Web vs Native (was Re: HTML5 limitations?)

2017-07-28 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2017-07-28 18:34, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode wrote: A sense of smooth liquid flow is the hallmark of modern UI. If support for this were limited to one widget that requires JavaScript, we might as well use the other tools you mentioned above. This is simply not true. All tools have

Re: Web vs Native (was Re: HTML5 limitations?)

2017-07-28 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2017-07-28 18:28, William Prothero via use-livecode wrote: on myRequest —send a POST or GET request, whatever, with a callback handler specified. —display a mask that inhibits new mouse clicks and sets a busy icon. end myRequest on myCallbackHander myReturnData —do whatever you want

Re: Web vs Native (was Re: HTML5 limitations?)

2017-07-28 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2017-07-26 23:06, hh via use-livecode wrote: There are, sadly, still very basic things missing, which make the HTML5 standalone builder, TMHO, not yet ready for "beta"-state. Well - yes - the 'beta' state as I mentioned was a slip (mainly in that we don't do 'beta' in our dev process as I

Re: template stacks

2017-07-28 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2017-07-28 18:01, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode wrote: But those seem pretty rare to me. On desktop my windows tend to be different sizes, and on mobile it's important that they be responsive to any screen size; in either case the specific dimensions at the moment of creation seem of

Re: Web vs Native (was Re: HTML5 limitations?)

2017-07-28 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2017-07-28 16:47, Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami via use-livecode wrote: Hence oft-repeated prayer that we get the browser "widget" to become a true member of the LC message hierarchy, they we can leverage the web apps eye candy layer (easy to build, responsive, CSS is already done for us…) with

Re: HTML5: mixed signals

2017-07-28 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2017-07-28 16:36, Mark Waddingham via use-livecode wrote: Oops - I forgot to say 'I am not a laywer but'... At the start of this. I should say that most of this stuff is pretty standard, in general as long as you always use attach a license to your commercial works, and always follow

Re: HTML5: mixed signals

2017-07-28 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
aren't accidentally stepping on a mine you did not see! Warmest Regards Mark. On 2017-07-28 16:32, Mark Waddingham via use-livecode wrote: Hermann has the 'the right' of it here. Basically it is important to remember that just because you *might* be able to see source-code it doesn't mean you

Re: HTML5: mixed signals

2017-07-28 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
Hermann has the 'the right' of it here. Basically it is important to remember that just because you *might* be able to see source-code it doesn't mean you have the right to copy, use or do anything with it. If there is no license attached to it, or if there is not a clear declaration of a

Re: template stacks

2017-07-28 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2017-07-28 11:30, Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode wrote: From LiveCode 8.0 upwards when one wants a new stack one is given a menu of choices for iPads, iPhones and so on. Is there a way to edit that menu PERMANENTLY so one can accommodate one's own sizes? That is perhaps something we

Re: HTML5 limitations?

2017-07-26 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2017-07-26 00:43, Mark Wieder via use-livecode wrote: On 07/25/2017 01:43 PM, hh via use-livecode wrote: The HTML5 standalone builder is still "experimental". Has been "very experimental" until July 2017. It's in process to becoming "beta". My fault! I wasn't paying attention when

Re: 64 Bit iOS Apps

2017-07-24 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2017-07-24 17:16, Todd Fabacher via use-livecode wrote: Apple - "When Apple launches iOS 11 in September, the company will drop support for old 32-bit applications" We have some apps still on LiveCode version 7.14. Is this ONLY 32 bit or is it 64Bit? Will the App die if my users upgrade to

Re: What happened to LC version numbers?

2017-07-20 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
If only I were sure that all our tooling would be happy with 'dv' - that might make a good name for nightly builds. Sent from my iPhone > On 20 Jul 2017, at 21:18, Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode > wrote: > > I honestly don't know what the fuss is: > > DP

Re: What happened to LC version numbers?

2017-07-20 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
from the downloads page. Sent from my iPhone > On 20 Jul 2017, at 20:23, Mark Waddingham via use-livecode > <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > > Err - last week... 9dp8? Previously there 7 others - a bit under one a month > (on average) if my recollection serves me corr

Re: What happened to LC version numbers?

2017-07-20 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
Err - last week... 9dp8? Previously there 7 others - a bit under one a month (on average) if my recollection serves me correctly (which it might not!). Mark. Sent from my iPhone > On 20 Jul 2017, at 20:09, Mark Wieder via use-livecode > wrote: > >> On

Re: Window layering

2017-07-19 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2017-07-19 18:59, Mark Waddingham via use-livecode wrote: - set the layer ouf a stack below all other windows (opposite of systemWindow) It might be useful - although probably not implementable (judging by how hard it is to get the backdrop to work reliably on all platforms). This case

Re: Window layering

2017-07-19 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2017-07-19 18:59, Mark Waddingham via use-livecode wrote: On 2017-07-19 18:32, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode wrote: All this talk about the background has me wondering: would it be useful to anyone here if we had a way to: - set the layer of a stack below all other LC stacks (opposite

Re: Bug 20117: new rc2 sets a backdrop, and preferences for same

2017-07-19 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2017-07-19 19:04, Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode wrote: On 7/19/17 7:15 pm, Dr. Hawkins via use-livecode wrote: I had never heard of backdrop before, and would have had no idea to try to deal with it in the message box. That's funny; that backdrop goes back to at least the Free

Re: What happened to LC version numbers?

2017-07-19 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2017-07-19 18:44, Mark Wieder via use-livecode wrote: On 07/19/2017 06:54 AM, Bob Hall via use-livecode wrote: Why are we testing a new feature in a RELEASE CANDIDATE version #2? Why are significant features being added at all to the 8.x branch? What standard (if any) do Livecode version

Re: Window layering

2017-07-19 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2017-07-19 18:32, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode wrote: All this talk about the background has me wondering: would it be useful to anyone here if we had a way to: - set the layer of a stack below all other LC stacks (opposite of palette) - set the layer ouf a stack below all other

Re: Bug 20117: new rc2 sets a backdrop, and preferences for same

2017-07-19 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2017-07-19 18:50, Mark Wieder via use-livecode wrote: On 07/19/2017 04:49 AM, Mark Waddingham via use-livecode wrote: I'm honestly struggling to understand the problem here Do this on linux: (might be a good idea to have a terminal window running already) (especially on a second monitor

Re: Bug 20117: new rc2 sets a backdrop, and preferences for same

2017-07-19 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2017-07-19 16:26, Roger Eller via use-livecode wrote: Every version I have, 6.x, 7.x, 8.x, all black, Mac or Windows. Odd thing though, on OS X 10.11.6, versions 8.1.4 and 8.1.5 will not open Preferences. Have you opened 8.1.6-rc-2? Prior to 8.1.6-rc-2 the default set in the IDE (if it

Re: What happened to LC version numbers?

2017-07-19 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2017-07-19 15:54, Bob Hall via use-livecode wrote: On Jul 19, 2017, at 4:55 AM, Mark Waddingham via use-livecode <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: Admittedly, this was perhaps a slightly riskier test then something like the handler menu; Why are we testing a new feature in a R

Re: Bug 20117: new rc2 sets a backdrop, and preferences for same

2017-07-19 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2017-07-19 13:58, Roger Eller via use-livecode wrote: When I toggle the backdrop ON, why is it black, rather than something like "lightgray" which is more like the Tools and menu portion of the IDE? Black as the default feels like a mistake? The backdrop color can be configured as a

Re: Bug 20117: new rc2 sets a backdrop, and preferences for same

2017-07-19 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2017-07-19 13:19, Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode wrote: I've just run 8.1.6 past "my kiddos" (even though their summer classes have finished it is amazing what happens when I write "ice cream" on Facebook) and about half of them liked the backdrop, but none of them like the backdrop "as

Re: Bug 20117: new rc2 sets a backdrop, and preferences for same

2017-07-19 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2017-07-19 13:40, Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode wrote: How many of those brand new users are going to start teaching themselves LiveCode at home, and how many are going to go through a guided course in LiveCode in some kind of classroom setting? Most are going to be going through it

Re: Bug 20117: new rc2 sets a backdrop, and preferences for same

2017-07-19 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2017-07-19 13:25, Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode wrote: "the question is this:" How many new users of LiveCode are actually "brand new" in the sense that they have NO computer programming experience at all? A significant enough percentage to make it worthwhile a vector to consider.

Re: Bug 20117: new rc2 sets a backdrop, and preferences for same

2017-07-19 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2017-07-19 12:50, Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode wrote: Lumpy custard! Just like your grandmother used to make?* ;) Other people who have commented on this are all "on this list"; otherwise they would have been unable to comment. Indeed - my point was simply that due to a bug which

Re: Bug 20117: new rc2 sets a backdrop, and preferences for same

2017-07-19 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2017-07-19 08:56, Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode wrote: Even that is a "load of old Bollo"; I'm sure that a lot of people trying out LiveCode for the first time are going to go "gae quair" when they see their desktop vanish. Possibly - but until you test such a thing, a statement

Re: [ANN] Release 8.1.6 RC-2

2017-07-18 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
Hemulen: > > http://forums.livecode.com/viewtopic.php?f=6=29487=156063#p155838 > > "All in the best possible taste", Richmond. > > >> On 7/18/17 8:53 pm, Mark Waddingham via use-livecode wrote: >>> On 2017-07-18 19:08, Richmond Mathewson via use-liveco

Re: Why is libcef included in standalone?

2017-07-18 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2017-07-18 19:25, Dan Friedman via use-livecode wrote: Mark, Thanks for the very helpful info and the quick reply! In my case, I am displaying a very simple webpage as a type of preview. So, the latest html compatibility isn’t an issue. For this project, I’ll manually remove the

Re: [ANN] Release 8.1.6 RC-2

2017-07-18 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2017-07-18 19:08, Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode wrote: This should be fun, and in the light of "taking community feedback into consideration" we should all 'jump on' anything we don't like with alternative (constructive) suggestions as soon as possible. Alternative *concrete*

Re: Why is libcef included in standalone?

2017-07-18 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2017-07-18 18:07, Dan Friedman via use-livecode wrote: Using LC 8.1.5, I have unchecked “Browser (CEF)” option in the “Inclusions” section of the “Standalone Application Settings”. However, libcef.dll is still included in the standalone build on Windows. It is not included in the build for

Re: [ANN] Release 9.0.0 DP-8

2017-07-18 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2017-07-17 23:25, Monte Goulding via use-livecode wrote: Actually it’s quite helpful within strings. Consider a string to be used with the merge function or just the likelihood of wanting a pair of brackets in a string rather than a single one. As for quotes as they are not valid within a

Re: [ANN] Release 9.0.0 DP-8

2017-07-17 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2017-07-17 18:39, Mark Wieder via use-livecode wrote: On 07/17/2017 03:41 AM, Mark Waddingham via use-livecode wrote: Indeed, bracket completion has to ignore content of strings otherwise you can't write stuff like: put ( ")" & "'" ) & ( "'" ) int

Re: [ANN] Release 9.0.0 DP-8

2017-07-17 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2017-07-17 14:33, hh via use-livecode wrote: Isn't this more a thing of editing only than of debugging/compiling? The current completions occur also while I am typing inside of a string.. Okay, so having just read the form thread as well... There are two things here: 1) Bracket

Re: [ANN] Release 9.0.0 DP-8

2017-07-17 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2017-07-17 11:05, panagiotis merakos via use-livecode wrote: @Hermann I am not sure if "{}" were left out on purpose or not, I'll ask Monte. However, if you want to add them, you have to: On Purpose. '{' is not a valid LCS bracket - so it shouldn't be appear outside of strings.

Re: intersect . . . invisible images

2017-07-14 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
As I attempted to explain (clearly not very well!) intersect uses the transparency of pixels of the object when rendered in isolation to determine what parts of the object should be used to check for intersection. For example, you might have an image which incorporates a mostly transparent

Re: intersect . . . invisible images

2017-07-14 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2017-07-14 12:01, Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode wrote: It does seem illogical that while one can set levels of transparency with interset an image can continue intersecting with another when it is, supposedly, invisible . . . Originally intersect only worked on the rects of the

Re: intersect . . . invisible images

2017-07-14 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2017-07-14 11:20, Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode wrote: Oh dear, oh dear, oh dear . . . There I am fooling around setting up an "exam" for my "kiddiewinks" when I discovered something quite unsuspected about intersect ; So I have some code that goes something like this: if

Re: Refreshing question

2017-07-12 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2017-07-12 18:28, Mark Waddingham via use-livecode wrote: Option (3) is probably the easiest (it has less 'moving parts'), followed by (2) and then (3). I meant to say (2) is probably the easiest (it has less 'moving parts'), followed by (1) and then (3). Warmest Regards, Mark. -- Mark

Re: Refreshing question

2017-07-12 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2017-07-12 18:23, jbv via use-livecode wrote: On Wed, July 12, 2017 5:34 pm, jonathandly...@gmail.com wrote: If the data is always the same, then I would update a page and have the browser read it. Are you looking to reload the whole page or just update a few data points? I really need

RE: Native Livecode Pinch and Zoom

2017-07-12 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
Hi Ralph, On 2017-07-12 17:41, Ralph DiMola via use-livecode wrote: I get pinch-and-zoom on both mobile platforms using the mobile browser control. My html expert has had to tweak a couple of html pages now and again to make it work. Other on-line pages don’t pinch-and-zoom but they also don’t

Re: Image Metadata Enhancement Request

2017-07-09 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
It is GPLv2 or later *or* undisclosed commercial license. So not generally usable except for in pure GPLv3 LiveCode projects (unless you buy a commercial license for it for your specific use). Mark Sent from my iPhone > On 9 Jul 2017, at 16:19, Mark Wieder via use-livecode >

Re: Image Metadata Enhancement Request

2017-07-09 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
There's a livecodescript library which manipulates exif data: https://github.com/angerangel/livecodeExif Warmest Regards, Mark. Sent from my iPhone > On 9 Jul 2017, at 09:51, Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode > wrote: > > Currently LiveCode only accesses

Re: debugging a CEF browser instance

2017-07-08 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
appeared to me) may simply give up on Livecode. Indeed, it might be > better if a warning appears when a page attempts to do something that has > been restricted (assuming the browser widget throws an exception when such > things happen). > > Regards > Bernard > > On

Re: Text style is hit or miss for me

2017-07-07 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
Hi Roger, On 2017-07-07 16:36, Roger Eller via use-livecode wrote: How do you guys do formatting buttons? Try set the textStyle["bold"] of the selectedChunk to true set the textStyle["italic"] of the selectedChunk to true Warmest Regards, Mark. -- Mark Waddingham ~ m...@livecode.com

Re: debugging a CEF browser instance

2017-07-07 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
Hi Bernard, On 2017-07-07 14:02, Bernard Devlin via use-livecode wrote: This makes it very clear that the problem relates to the way that LC is embedding the CEF browser. This is also confirmed by the fact the page will not load in LC browser widget on OS X. Is there any way of debugging the

Re: Saturated fat

2017-07-06 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2017-07-06 12:01, Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode wrote: Why do I have a feeling that at one point there was some discussion about making the LC "thang" even more modular so that one could make "trim" standalones? The download size of the DMG/installer has ballooned because of all the

Re: debugging a CEF browser instance

2017-07-06 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2017-07-06 08:39, Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode wrote: Why? In general there is a cost to logging - particularly CEF's which is very verbose. On Windows you might not notice (as stdout/stderr output is generally dumped to the equivalent of /dev/null), but on Linux if you happen to be

Re: synonyms

2017-07-04 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
from my iPhone > On 4 Jul 2017, at 18:49, Mark Wieder via use-livecode > <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > >> On 07/04/2017 10:37 AM, Mark Waddingham via use-livecode wrote: >> >> Of course, once when has figured out all the potential issues and

Re: synonyms

2017-07-04 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2017-07-04 19:14, Mark Wieder via use-livecode wrote: On 07/04/2017 01:18 AM, Mark Waddingham via use-livecode wrote: Quite right. After I posted that bit I realized that after 'fixing' the parser one would also need to deal with the complexities of assigning the variables, and the issues

Re: synonyms

2017-07-04 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2017-06-29 21:13, Mark Wieder via use-livecode wrote: Don't know about the 'less confusing' part, but otherwise ruby lets you interleave them: if there's an associated name with a parameter then that parameter gets assigned to that variable. Otherwise you have to work with the parameter

Re: synonyms

2017-07-04 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2017-06-26 22:29, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode wrote: On 6/26/17 3:14 PM, Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode wrote: On 6/26/17 11:07 pm, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode wrote: Just please don't remove the ones we've got. I haven't typed out "background" or "card" in 30 years. My brain

Re: synonyms

2017-07-04 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2017-06-26 21:57, Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode wrote: Most of us are well aware that LiveCode is NOT Hypercard any more than I am not a small, furry mouselike mammal that danced around the toes of dying dinosaurs: LiveCode is descended from HyperCard, and I may be descended from small,

Re: Recursion limit

2017-07-04 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2017-07-04 09:28, Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode wrote: BUT . . . How can one know how high one can set the recursionLimit before smoke, sparks and flames are going to start leaping out of the back of the computer? Or, less frivolously; how can one determine the upper limit on the

Re: synonyms

2017-07-04 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2017-06-26 21:34, Mark Wieder via use-livecode wrote: Heh. Autocomplete, I think, works well when you already have an idea where you're going. I don't think it would help much with a line like "if x " If the autocomplete mechanism is good enough then it could it would come up with a list

Re: Sharp as a pound (was Array assignment...)

2017-07-04 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2017-06-29 18:45, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode wrote: So long as we all generally agree that "#" can be called "pound, Hash or Sharp" (not so sure I agree with the last one btw) then we can talk about it. So far as the computer is concerned, it's ascii(035) and even that is a synonym for

Re: Recursion limit

2017-07-04 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2017-07-04 09:05, Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode wrote: "the handler: revIDEStackNameIsIDEStack has reached the recursion limit of: 40. Execution will be terminated to prevent hang" OK, OK, hanging is a type of execution. This is "all very charming" but I want the script to go on

Re: synonyms

2017-06-26 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
variants. The fact that the 'synonym problem' would also be 'fixed' by it Is but a happy by-product. Warmest Regards, Mark. Sent from my iPhone > On 26 Jun 2017, at 18:59, Mark Wieder via use-livecode > <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > >> On 06/26/2017 03:55 AM, Ma

Re: Inconsistent comma requirements

2017-06-26 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2017-06-26 12:41, hh via use-livecode wrote: No reason to get angry. This thread started from an excellent LC Lesson in the forum ( http://forums.livecode.com/viewtopic.php?f=7=29403 ) There is only one line to know: function logarithmicSearch @pArray pItem pLeft pRight Presumably a lot

Re: Inconsistent comma requirements

2017-06-26 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2017-06-26 08:05, hh via use-livecode wrote: Monte wrote: I have seen it before in user scripts but never used it myself. It’s one of those things you discover (like when {} could be used interchangeably with []) that you quickly realise you should never rely on so you forget pretty quickly

Re: Inconsistent comma requirements

2017-06-26 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2017-06-26 01:42, Monte Goulding via use-livecode wrote: On 25 Jun 2017, at 1:37 am, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode wrote: How many of you have never before known that commas are optional between definition arguments? I have seen it before in user scripts

Re: Set the imagesource of a character to a built in graphic

2017-06-24 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
There's a form of replace which preserves styling in fields these days (an FE we ran quite a while ago) - take a look at the replace entry in the dictionary. Warmest Regards, Mark Sent from my iPhone > On 24 Jun 2017, at 07:14, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode >

Re: Release 9.0.0 DP7 / SVG / The book of the film

2017-06-23 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
Hi Frans, On 2017-06-23 14:36, Frans Schoffelen via use-livecode wrote: Progress! But still not quite there yet. Picture link of screenshot : https://www.dropbox.com/s/b867mchlhyoornz/SVG.af-SVG-LC.png?dl=0 Can you share the SVG file which is generated by Affinity designer? Thanks, Mark.

Re: First 1000 characters without loop?

2017-06-23 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2017-06-23 03:07, Peter W A Wood via use-livecode wrote: Some Unicode characters, such as emojis, have to be represented by two codepoints in UTF-16 (known as surrogates) so they take four bytes not two. Additionally, the number of bytes for characters with accents will take either one

Re: First 1000 characters without loop?

2017-06-23 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2017-06-23 03:19, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode wrote: Seems murky. I'd much rather at least have something like a byteLen function, which returns the number of bytes for a given string. With that I can maintain byte offsets into a file with good performance and no ambiguity. You do:

Re: First 1000 characters without loop?

2017-06-23 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2017-06-22 23:18, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode wrote: With many chunk expressions, I would imagine it does. With line chunks, for example, the engine needs to walk through the string, comparing each character to CR, counting the found CRs as it goes. Yes - essentially that is the case

Re: DataGrid2 - Improved Graphics Means What - Exactly?

2017-06-23 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2017-06-23 07:23, Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami via use-livecode wrote: What is the scope of the improved graphics rendering? Is It DataGrid only? No - the proposed engine addition (container layer mode) is not DataGrid only - it is a general feature usable by any custom control which wants

Re: Exploring A Single File Deploy on Windows

2017-06-22 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2017-06-21 22:47, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode wrote: Could you expand on this a little bit? StandaloneSaving/Saved are only sent during a build, so I'm not sure how I'd use those to intercept a startup message. Yes but they could be used at standalone building time (probably will

Re: Exploring A Single File Deploy on Windows

2017-06-21 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2017-06-21 19:42, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode wrote: One of the things I liked about SuperCard was that Bill Appleton had written his own resource fork into his data file format. This allowed SC to store any number of data and even code (XCMDs and DFCNs) within the data fork, without

Re: put url tricks to copy files on windows

2017-06-21 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
As others have pointed out, for binfile and file urls you shouldn't include the standard '//' in front of the (absolute) path. These are not parsed by the engine as standard urls - everything after the : is parsed as the filename. On an unrelated not you don't need to twiddle with the

Re: LiveCode apps in Google Play

2017-06-16 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2017-06-16 18:09, Colin Holgate via use-livecode wrote: I did wonder that too. I know that in the case of Adobe AIR it’s very easy to do. Is there nothing in the manifest that mentions LiveCode, that someone with access to all Google Play data could search for? No there isn't. The only

Re: Re : Release 9.0.0 DP7 / SVG

2017-06-16 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2017-06-16 12:08, Frans Schoffelen via use-livecode wrote: Thanks Mark, I did not know that we had to recompile every single dp.I had recompiled with dp6… It is best to recompile again for each DP - the module format for any major version will be 'stable' when it gets to GM. Before that

Re: [ANN] Release 9.0.0 DP-7

2017-06-16 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2017-06-15 21:08, Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode wrote: Bug 19882 I wonder if this is the same as - http://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=19861 I encountered this because I run Linux in VMs on Azure, and you have to use XFCE (since Ubuntu Desktop is incompatible with MS RDP

Re: constants in LC server

2017-06-16 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2017-06-16 11:35, Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode wrote: To answer my own question, it seems that constants on LC Server only work in handlers. So this script outputs the values " & kNumber end showConstant showConstant ?> I think that´s a bug, either in LC Server or at least in the

Re: Release 9.0.0 DP7

2017-06-16 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2017-06-16 11:19, Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode wrote: Mark, regarding to recompiling widget for newer LC version: If i use LC 8 and 9, do i have to recompile it every time i use the other version? Right now - yes - the lcm (compiled LCB) formats are not compatible. There are a couple

Re: Re : Release 9.0.0 DP7

2017-06-16 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2017-06-16 10:55, Frans Schoffelen via use-livecode wrote: Hi, am I correct in seeing no progress on the COLOUR SVG front? Even worse : Now even Peter Thirkels widget has to be uninstalled. I was under the impression that implementation or at least clear definition was imminent? Maybe I’m

Re: LiveCode apps in Google Play

2017-06-16 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2017-06-16 00:04, Colin Holgate via use-livecode wrote: If you remember, a few weeks ago we were worrying about whether Google’s policy change would affect LiveCode apps. I asked a policy manager about that at Google I/O, and he just followed up to say that he couldn’t find any LiveCode apps

Re: [ANN] Release 9.0.0 DP-7

2017-06-15 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2017-06-15 20:45, Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode wrote: Unfortunately not installing on Xubuntu 16.04. Oh, and before you ask, I did remember to set the executable bit on the installer. Could you file a bug with what happens when you try? In particular, if you run the installer from

Re: annoying property editor

2017-06-15 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2017-06-15 18:03, Mark Wieder via use-livecode wrote: On 06/15/2017 08:41 AM, Mark Waddingham via use-livecode wrote: Sounds like a Linux Window Manager trying to be helpful and really not being helpful issue to me ;) Possibly. But I don't see this behavior on LC7.1.4, just on LC8 and LC9

Re: annoying property editor

2017-06-15 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2017-06-15 17:18, panagiotis merakos via use-livecode wrote: Hi Mark, I does not happen for me, tested on Ubuntu 16.04 and 17.04. The Property Inspector sticks to its current location, and does not move to the centre of the screen. Can someone that uses Linux check if this is

Re: can't edit...while it is executing

2017-06-15 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2017-06-15 16:26, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode wrote: Know of any trick for getting Ctrl-. to work for this in LC as it does in other xTalks? Wait until dp-7 appears: http://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=19479 Warmest Regards, Mark. -- Mark Waddingham ~ m...@livecode.com ~

Re: Widgets "eating" mouseevents?

2017-06-15 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2017-06-15 14:37, Klaus major-k via use-livecode wrote: Hi friends, I know that widget ignore "mouseevents" (up/down/move etc.) if not explicitley scripted in them. OK, but is it neccessary that they also "eat" mouseevents? I hope not! Example: card script: on mousemove x,y put x && y

Re: clipsToRect property (was Re: Instantiaing Grouped Controls - Templates - Responsive)

2017-06-14 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2017-06-14 02:18, Monte Goulding via use-livecode wrote: I think this is one of those cases where the default behaviour was a bad idea. Or perhaps was implemented before groups were used for much other than backgrounds. Other objects we need to set to the formatted width/height so why are

Re: Instantiaing Grouped Controls - Templates - Responsive

2017-06-13 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2017-06-13 17:37, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode wrote: Mark Waddingham wrote: I think this might be missing from the PI control definitions: http://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=18945 FWIW this property does not appear among the keys of "the properties" of a group either.

Re: Mac PPC

2017-06-13 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
6.6.x I think was the last version to support PPC - 10.4+. Mark Sent from my iPhone > On 13 Jun 2017, at 08:32, Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode > wrote: > > I wonder (to save me trawling endlessly though release notes) if > anyone can tell me the last LC

Re: Instantiaing Grouped Controls - Templates - Responsive

2017-06-13 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2017-06-13 08:53, Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami via use-livecode wrote: Mark …Ha! "OOooh Myy Gawd" had I known this from the beginning it would all have "worked out of the box" because the resetting rects and locs of child objects of the group was causing the rect of the group to "jump around"

Re: Word delimiters

2017-06-12 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2017-06-13 01:18, Devin Asay via use-livecode wrote: Fixed. https://github.com/livecode/livecode/pull/5592 Thanks Devin and Henry :) Now if I do the same thing with Bug ..., Bug ..., Bug , ... and go back to bed, will I wake up to find them all fixed in a similar fashion? ;)

Re: Instantiaing Grouped Controls - Templates - Responsive

2017-06-12 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2017-06-12 22:22, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode wrote: For group controls you will find that it is. Try it. It's quite handy. Another useful thing which I'm not sure is particularly visible (but is in the dictionary!) is the group 'clipsToRect' property. When 'the clipsToRect' is set

Re: propertyChanged?

2017-06-12 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2017-06-12 20:42, Mark Waddingham via use-livecode wrote: I'm not sure how long it might be before it becomes a fully supported, end-user feature (there's a great publish/subscribe model lurking there somewhere - at least tuned to an IDE-like applications needs - see further down) but we

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