Hi, Doug,
Of course, after a certain amount of time, expecting bug-fixes on older
versions wouldn't be reasonable either. Every software product has a
supported lifetime.
I agree.
For example, if you found a bug in Windows 95, Microsoft would hardly be
expected to provide a fix a this point in
Moin, Geoff,
Where did you read this? On this page it says Next feature update
included:
I quoted the sentence from the license eMail I got from Runrev, so I
consider it official, no matter what the website says ;-)
Marc Albrecht
A.C.T. / level-2
Glinder Str. 2
27432 Ebersdorf
Deutschland
Tel.
Geoff,
This is all good of course but what about those windows media issues raised
many times on the list. Here in the UK, the windows/mac balance is probably
95%/5%. Certainly everything I build for school use and club use is Windows.
I bought my Rev partly on its multimedia and cross platform
On Mar 13, 2004, at 10:31 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote:
On 3/13/04 2:40 PM, James Spencer wrote:
What I don't get and hope that some kind soul will tell me is:
a) Considering that the data stack is not a substack of the main
stack but rather is a completely separate entity in its own file,
why
Never having purchased a copy of studio, I hadn't seen that email ;-)
regards,
Geoff Canyon
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On Mar 14, 2004, at 1:45 AM, A.C.T. wrote:
Moin, Geoff,
Where did you read this? On this page it says Next feature update
included:
I quoted the sentence from the license eMail I got
On 3/14/04 8:43 AM, James Spencer wrote:
(I
would suggest that this is counterintuitive in this context: at least
for me, I expect this to be the stack in which the script is found but
now I'm whining.)
After working for a while with multiple windows at once, it starts to
make more sense. For
On Mar 14, 2004, at 1:52 AM, Stephen King wrote:
many things about media support on Windows
Make sure these are entered into bugzilla, which has an ever-growing
influence on my life ;-)
regards,
Geoff Canyon
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Sunday, March 14, 2004, 6:43:54 AM, you wrote:
JS ...and my going back to reading the Transcript Dictionary entry for the
JS default stack property makes this even clearer. Thank you again. (I
JS would suggest that this is counterintuitive in this context: at least
JS for me, I expect
Hi
I am working with icons in OSX. I have created a series of graphics
that I store in the stack and I use them to represent the enabled
disabled and hilited states of buttons.
In OSX when I set the hilite icon of a button to a specified icon the
button shows the appropriate appearance and
On 3/14/04 1:17 AM, j wrote:
If the third place number indicates bug fixes or minor changes (2.1.x),
shouldn't anyone who purchased 2.1.2 receive 2.1.4even up to 2.1.9for
free? The numbering scheme would indicate they are all bug fix
updates. One would think that my included free upgrade
Moin, Jacqueline,
One question to consider, though, is how many free updates the company
can provide and still expect to stay afloat financially. Demanding
unlimited free updates may not work to our advantage in the long run.
If you have followed the discussion you may have noticed that updates
On Sunday, March 14, 2004, at 12:19 PM, A.C.T. wrote:
If you have followed the discussion you may have noticed that
updates are considered bug fixes by most participiants within this
discussion, while upgrades are considered feature enhancements
(meaning NEW features).
Bugfixes have to be free
Yes. So long as customers are still using 9.1.1, there is an implicit
obligation to fix bugs therein. Once a product is purchased, the
manufacturer has an implicit obligation to the purchaser to ensure that
it functions as advertised. Simply releasing a new version does not
relieve one of
Moin, Dar,
Are you suggesting that there be versions branch for every upgrade, that
is, that bugs found for 9.1.1 be fixed even after the company has
released 10.0.0?
I am afraid this is leading into a dead cycle.
I am not Runrev. I cannot tell Runrev how to handle their versioning.
All I can
On 3/14/04 1:53 PM, Marian Petrides wrote:
Yes. So long as customers are still using 9.1.1, there is an implicit
obligation to fix bugs therein. Once a product is purchased, the
manufacturer has an implicit obligation to the purchaser to ensure that
it functions as advertised. Simply
If, in fact, 8.6 still has bugs which prevent it from functioning _as
advertised_, probably yes. But at this point, this is pretty unlikely
since the people who continue to use it are likely doing so because it
has proved stable enough and full-featured enough to meet their needs.
I think the
Hi
I'm having some problems getting a standalone version of my rev program
working. The problem only presents in the standalone version.
The problem occurs when I use my program and click a button to stop.
Results are displayed. I click the button again to reset the screen.
Because this
On Mar 14, 2004, at 12:14 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote:
On 3/14/04 1:53 PM, Marian Petrides wrote:
Yes. So long as customers are still using 9.1.1, there is an
implicit obligation to fix bugs therein. Once a product is
purchased, the manufacturer has an implicit obligation to the
purchaser to
Hi Marian,
Using your logic, I should be able to demand Adobe fix my unresolved
bugs in Photoshop 5,6, and 7? I would rather them fixed than upgrade to
the latest version.
Frankly, I'm not aware of any small software company who continues to
release bug fixes for older versions of their
On 3/14/04 1:53 PM, Marian Petrides wrote:
Yes. So long as customers are still using 9.1.1, there is an
implicit obligation to fix bugs therein. Once a product is
purchased, the manufacturer has an implicit obligation to the
purchaser to ensure that it functions as advertised. Simply
On Sunday, March 14, 2004, at 12:53 PM, Marian Petrides wrote:
Are you suggesting that if I buy 9.1.1 today and you release 10.0
tomorrow that you have no obligation whatsoever to me to ensure that
9.1.1 meets the specifications you set out for it , specifications
upon which I based my
On Sunday, March 14, 2004, at 12:19 PM, A.C.T. wrote:
If you have followed the discussion you may have noticed that
updates are considered bug fixes by most participiants within this
discussion, while upgrades are considered feature enhancements
(meaning NEW features).
Bugfixes have to be free
Ayup. It happens but that isn't necessarily the right way to do
things. For example, contractors fail to fix warranty items on new
homes all the time, claiming they are not defects and knowing that most
people will not take the time to pursue them. It's a fact of life, but
that doesn't make
A better comparison is to other applications. For how long after
Office 2003 or Office 2004 for Mac came out did Microsoft continue to
release bug fixes for the previous versions? In my experience, the
answer has been, about ten seconds.
I'm cringing at jumping into this thread, because I DO
Richard -
When it comes to organizing a get together like this, you may want to
consider this website: http://www.meetup.com/
I saw a bit about it on TechTV about a Month ago. From the website:
Meetup is a free service that organizes local gatherings about
anything, anywhere.
- James
On
On Mar 14, 2004, at 4:02 PM, Brian Yennie wrote:
I'm cringing at jumping into this thread, because I DO NOT think
RunRev has exactly been guilty of poor support or response to bugs.
HOWEVER, I can't quite agree with the Office OR OS comparisons. Both
are consumer products, not developer
I agree with you about RunRev's support and also cringe about jumping
in but I think the second comment deserves response because I think
this is somewhat behind some of the carping:
You may wish they were more bug free but in fact developer products
are more complicated and function at lower
Hi,
all my emails got deleted , can you please repost how to delete
multiple Var's ?
Thanks , hershrev
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When I change the appearance to windows the icon changes
appropriately
but then a black rectangle appears bounding the button. This
rectangle
remains even if the hilite icon is removed from the button ( ie the
button's icon is changed to its enabled appearance ). The
rectangle can
-- Going native WinXP appearance -- bug fix.
How is this a bugfix? This is major new functionality in the engine that has
been requested by many users for a long time and something I'd be happy to
pay for if it were a release on it's own.
-- More OSX appearance support -- either a bug
On 15/03/2004, at 8:55, someone whom I am not attacking personally
wrote:
Ayup. It happens but that isn't necessarily the right way to do
things. For example, contractors fail to fix warranty items on new
homes all the time, claiming they are not defects and knowing that
most people will not
The industry practice and RunRev policy of three-part changes
(bug/minor/major) and associated pricing policies (none/small/large)
is well established and of minor interest unless someone has a unique
and commercially viable proposal which they should then put straight
to Kevin Miller anyway.
Hi. About a week ago I asked a question about plain text on the clipboard.
I had one reply (from Jacque - thanks) but the suggestion, while helpful,
didn't solve the problem. I wrote this back to the list but it seems to
have been lost in the mountains of other list emails. (Incidentally, does
Thanks, I appreciate the help!
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Disclaimer:
Any resemblance between the above views and those of my
employer, my terminal, or the view out my window are purely
coincidental.
Any resemblance between the above and my own views is non-deterministic.
So, by this logic, Apple should still be releasing bug fixes for OS
8.6? Lots of people still use it.
If Apple hasn't squashed all the bugs in 8.6 by now, then shame on
them! Bugs need to be fixed ASAP, and once they are fixed, they are
fixed. It is not as if new 8.6 bugs would begin to
Jonathan,
In order to keep the text font, style, etc. information, you need to
manipulate the clipboardData[html], not the clipboardData[text].
(Note: For those of you who get list mail in HTML, I'm wrapping the rest
in PRE tags so it will display properly.)
PRE
However in your case, you need
We may be straying to far from the topic at hand here (RR)...
Most software licenses these days do not have 'bug-free' clauses.
Typically, you purchase the software 'as is.'
But developers must be very careful about this, or be left to the
mercies of the judiciary. Suppose I sell a product
On 3/14/04 8:22 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi. About a week ago I asked a question about plain text on the clipboard.
I had one reply (from Jacque - thanks) but the suggestion, while helpful,
didn't solve the problem. I wrote this back to the list but it seems to
have been lost in the
I think we've bounced back and forth on this one...
7. The text should be duplicated (i.e. to be sure becomes to be
sure to
be sure - Happy St Patrick's Day by the way!)
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in the same font, size and
style as the original text.
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On my system* the pasted text ALWAYS ends up as Lucida
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