Re: OT: Help with motivation

2005-02-23 Thread Judy Perry
Odd... Not that I've ever done anything earth-shattering myself, but, about two years ago when in the midst of composing a rather long (for me) article on medieval genealogy, I'd take a few to do something *very* different. Sometimes just freeing myself from the burden of the moment and looking

Re: OT: Help with motivation

2005-02-23 Thread Judy Perry
On Tue, 22 Feb 2005, Richard Gaskin wrote: One of the things I found counterproductive about day jobs I've had is how short their siesta, and how non-existing their napping facililities. --Yuppers! This is true even, if not especially, of in-home day (at day OR night) jobs... @;-) Judy

Re: OT: Help with motivation

2005-02-23 Thread sims
Great replies from all...I would have never thought that Andre or Richard Gaskin ever need motivation. ;-) Sometimes I go to the kitchen and start peeling garlic, after doing that I need something to go with the garlic...I might get out the flour and eggs, sheep cheese and start making raviolis.

Framework for games...

2005-02-23 Thread Ian Leigh
I intend to learn more about Dreamcard by coding some games and so on. I am not sure about the general framework you would use with a setup like this though. Normally you end up with a main loop which runs continuously, until you quit out of it, and lots of methods/subroutines which do all the

pasting text from clipboard

2005-02-23 Thread Dwayne Rothe
Hello, I have come across a strange occurance when pasting text from the clipboard of Win XP to a field in Rev. The text is pasted with a much larger font size than the properties of the field, also it doesn't change when you try setting the text size of the field after pasting the text. The

Re: pasting text from clipboard

2005-02-23 Thread xbury . cs
i wrote a bugzilla about this... There's more than one clipboard problem in Rev... In there cases, just try to put the clipboarddata into your field instead of the usual paste. But you will loose all the styles... -=- Xavier Bury Clearstream Services TNS

Re: Framework for games...

2005-02-23 Thread xbury . cs
There's a lot of game frameworks for 2D, 3D games out there. I suggest starting with a simple loop and evolving it to make your game. Start with the simple loop with a question. Win or Loose. Then extend it to add scores, replays, bonuses, etc... One place to start is http://www.gameai.com/

Re: OT: Help with motivation

2005-02-23 Thread Dave Cragg
On 22 Feb 2005, at 23:29, Sarah Reichelt wrote: I have been having problems getting myself motivated. I have a possible customer for a few ideas I have and he said as soon as I'm ready that he will try and sell them for me. I even have a lot of ideas for this project. But I can't seem to get

Re: use-revolution Digest, Vol 17, Issue 72

2005-02-23 Thread Éric Chatonet
Hi Byron, Le 23 févr. 05, à 11:07, Byron Turner [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit : I've been experimenting drag and drop images (eric chatonet's wonderful demo). When I drag an image in, clips a portion of any window that's open over the image area or a portion of the Rev window where the image resides.

Re: Framework for games...

2005-02-23 Thread Alex Tweedly
Ian Leigh wrote: I intend to learn more about Dreamcard by coding some games and so on. I am not sure about the general framework you would use with a setup like this though. Normally you end up with a main loop which runs continuously, until you quit out of it, and lots of methods/subroutines

OT: Help with motivation

2005-02-23 Thread graham samuel
On Tue, 22 Feb 2005 17:56:05 -0500, Thomas McGrath III [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello listers, I hope this is not too far off topic. I have been having problems getting myself motivated. I have a possible customer for a few ideas I have and he said as soon as I'm ready that he will try and sell

Re: OT: Help with motivation

2005-02-23 Thread Kevin Miller
Hi Tom, I use a whole range of different techniques depending on the circumstances. Being really effective and productive is something you have to make a priority and keep working on. The most important techniques for me: * Am I sure that I want to be doing this now? Is it really in my best

Re: New user just introducing myself...

2005-02-23 Thread Kevin Miller
On 23/2/05 4:00 am, Richard Gaskin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When I was evaluating Revolution previously, I remember seeing a tutorial section under help. I couldn't seem to find it in the 2.5 version, so I just ordered Dan's book : ) Somehow the Getting Started stuff fell out of v2.5 --

Re: New user just introducing myself...

2005-02-23 Thread Mikey
Whenever I learn a new language I read the Language Guide cover to cover. Well, that's a lie -- what I really do is skim it. But even just skimming will give you the lay of the land, and you'd be surprised how much you'll retain from that. Wait - there's a Language Guide? Where the heck is

Re: Making Wells: Whose Control Is It Anyway?

2005-02-23 Thread Jerry Balzano
Rev Users - I have to say I'm a little jealous ... a posting headed OT: Help with motivation gives rise to a thread of over 20 messages, and I can't even get a little nibble with an actual scripting question here [see below]. (Not meaning to annoy anyone, really, just asking you to put your

Re: pasting text from clipboard

2005-02-23 Thread Frank D. Engel, Jr.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 You could also trap the paste request somehow and execute something like this (untested code): paste set the textSize of char 1 to (the number of chars in field Field) of field Field to empty On Feb 23, 2005, at 4:52 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i

Re: OT: Help with motivation

2005-02-23 Thread Mikey
I have exactly the same problem - it sometimes takes me days or weeks to really get going on a project. When I'm designing databases or forms days can pass with nothing happening. In College I had the same problem - I just could not get into studying for an exam. Ultimately what I discovered is

RE: OT: Help with motivation

2005-02-23 Thread Lynch, Jonathan
Hi David... What finally worked for you regarding Windows printing? Regarding finding ideas - I encountered this issue frequently when I was a producer at CNN. Basically, how do you become inspired when the inspiration is not forthcoming on its own? I used to teach new producers a few simple

legal...

2005-02-23 Thread Paul Salyers
Dear Rev Programmers, Anyone know the legal mumble-jumble on taking a open VB source code than you didn't write and converting it to Rev, and distributing. Is that legal or not? Paul Salyers PS1 - Senior Rep. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Http://ps1.SoftSeven.org

Re: legal...

2005-02-23 Thread Klaus Major
Hi Paul, Dear Rev Programmers, Anyone know the legal mumble-jumble on taking a open VB source code than you didn't write and converting it to Rev, and distributing. Is that legal or not? I am no lawyer, but i would say yes, it's legal. At least i would do it ;-) Paul Salyers PS1 - Senior Rep.

New Bugzilla report Bug 2631

2005-02-23 Thread Alejandro Tejada
Hi Developers, I've posted this bug report: Bug# 2631 -- I could open any stack by dragging and droping over an executable file. Verified with many standalones build with RR and MC. Some standalones even let me copy a jpg file in the hard disk and

RE: legal...

2005-02-23 Thread MisterX
It's not legal. But if you find more than one source with the same algorightm - common use, then it's ok to replicate that use with your own code. Using the other's code to make it work for you should be done with caution. It's been known to catch up in time some big companies... And make some

Re: legal...

2005-02-23 Thread Frank D. Engel, Jr.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Right, it depends on the license under which the code was released. If the code is in the public domain, anything goes. Otherwise, check the license. On Feb 23, 2005, at 11:44 AM, MisterX wrote: It's not legal. But if you find more than one source

Re: OT: Help with motivation

2005-02-23 Thread Thomas McGrath III
Thanks Sarah, Richard, Trevor, Bob, Ro, Stephen, Jacqueline, Dan, Jim, Ken, David, Chipp, Paul, David, Andre, Judy, Dave, Graham, Kevin, Mikey, and Jonathan. I am completely overwhelmed by the responses I received to my motivation problem. I don't know what to say... I realize now that

Re: Making Wells: Whose Control Is It Anyway?

2005-02-23 Thread Thomas McGrath III
Jerry, I am not sure what it is exactly that you are asking. But have you looked in the documentation under drag? You said: no handlers in the other controls on the card will get triggered (right?), But: I think that you can trap and act upon a few things while doing a drag: dragDrop - Sent to

Re: New Bugzilla report Bug 2631

2005-02-23 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 2/23/05 10:33 AM, Alejandro Tejada wrote: Hi Developers, I've posted this bug report: Bug# 2631 -- I could open any stack by dragging and droping over an executable file. Verified with many standalones build with RR and MC. Some standalones even let

Re: Making Wells: Whose Control Is It Anyway?

2005-02-23 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 2/23/05 9:04 AM, Jerry Balzano wrote: Rev Users - I have to say I'm a little jealous ... a posting headed OT: Help with motivation gives rise to a thread of over 20 messages, That's because we can write that stuff off the top of our heads without having to look up anything, or even do any

Re: New user just introducing myself...

2005-02-23 Thread Richard Gaskin
Mikey wrote: Whenever I learn a new language I read the Language Guide cover to cover. Well, that's a lie -- what I really do is skim it. But even just skimming will give you the lay of the land, and you'd be surprised how much you'll retain from that. Wait - there's a Language Guide? Where the

Re: New user just introducing myself...

2005-02-23 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 2/23/05 8:42 AM, Mikey wrote: Whenever I learn a new language I read the Language Guide cover to cover. Well, that's a lie -- what I really do is skim it. But even just skimming will give you the lay of the land, and you'd be surprised how much you'll retain from that. Wait - there's a

Re: New Bugzilla report Bug 2631

2005-02-23 Thread Frank D. Engel, Jr.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 File associations are irrelevant for drag 'n drop of document/file icons on an app's icon. That much is true for most operating systems. On Feb 23, 2005, at 12:57 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: Unless I am misunderstanding, this is not a bug. It has to

Re: New user just introducing myself...

2005-02-23 Thread Andre Garzia
On Feb 23, 2005, at 3:08 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: The printed manuals, which are available for purchase separately, are just printouts of the same material for those who prefer hard copy they can read in the bathroom. ;) The printed version is not entirely up to date at this point, so the

Re: Using Firebird?

2005-02-23 Thread Andre Garzia
Jonathan, I don't think we have a database_driver for firebird, but we have ODBC, so you might be able to access this database from ODBC datasource, what about this? PS: I use postgreSQL, it's marvelous... Andre On Feb 23, 2005, at 3:04 PM, Lynch, Jonathan wrote: Hello everyone, I need to learn

Re: Using Firebird?

2005-02-23 Thread Frank D. Engel, Jr.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 You probably would do best to use an ODBC driver for Firebird, if you are certain you want to use Firebird. Meanwhile, you might consider PostgreSQL instead. The new version has a native Windows build (for the first time), and it has a very long

Re: OT: Help with motivation

2005-02-23 Thread Mikey
Yo, if you're coming up to Erie to fish, let me know. I'll be happy to...fish...you out when you fall through the bay. -- On the first day, God created the heavens and the Earth On the second day, God created the oceans. On the third day, God put the animals on hold for a few hours, and did

Re: New Bugzilla report Bug 2631

2005-02-23 Thread Richard Gaskin
Frank D. Engel, Jr. wrote: File associations are irrelevant for drag 'n drop of document/file icons on an app's icon. That much is true for most operating systems. I don't understand. This is what I need to do to get a document to be droppable onto an app: OS X: I need to add entries to the

sharedscripts

2005-02-23 Thread Rob Meijer
Goodday I am a newbie in Revolution, being in the trialperiod. In themy resting 19 days I try to translate a Toolbook application to Revolution language. The TB-app is written by myself. I work with TB for 18 years and have some experience with TB. In my app there is a listfield, each line

Re: sharedscripts

2005-02-23 Thread Andre Garzia
Rob, I never used Toolbook so I am guessing here. One thing you can use to share scripts is grouping the controls and using a group script. Or if you build a script library in a stack and want to add those scripts to your stack, you can use start using to add the scripts to the message path.

Re: Using Firebird?

2005-02-23 Thread Pierre Sahores
Hello, As a long time Rev/PostgreSQL web apps developer, under both the Linux and OSX platforms, just a word to say that when i choosed PG against other ACID-DB possible choices (Firebird, SAPDB, OpenBase,...), the difference went in about the very good documentation (books, web sites,...) i

Re: sharedscripts

2005-02-23 Thread Richard Gaskin
Rob Meijer wrote: I am a newbie in Revolution, being in the trialperiod. In themy resting 19 days I try to translate a Toolbook application to Revolution language. The TB-app is written by myself. I work with TB for 18 years and have some experience with TB. Welcome aboard. I've used ToolBook

Monterey Conference Date Change

2005-02-23 Thread Dan Shafer
It turns out that the upcoming Monterey Revolution Conference has to be moved up a week to June 17-18. The weekend we'd selected conflicts with the annual Monterey Blues Festival, which meant there were few rooms available for people to stay in and they were all very expensive. Sorry for the

Re: sharedscripts

2005-02-23 Thread Rob Meijer
Andre, I cannot find the right syntax. 'Start using' did not match. I am looking for something like: insert script of button wijzigen into script of field content but here I get an errormessage missing script ?? Thanks for your help Rob -- At 19:24 23/2/2005, Andre

Re: Monterey Conference Date Change

2005-02-23 Thread Andre Garzia
Dan et Al, I'll make the effort to go to both tracks if they happen! I learned so much from the last RMS that I would be very happy to stay there for both tracks! The date change keeps one wondering about attending also to the WWDC Andre On Feb 23, 2005, at 5:05 PM, Dan Shafer wrote: It

Re: sharedscripts

2005-02-23 Thread Klaus Major
Hi Rob, Andre, I cannot find the right syntax. 'Start using' did not match. I am looking for something like: insert script of button wijzigen into script of field content but here I get an errormessage missing script ?? you can only insert script into bakc or front... So

Re: sharedscripts

2005-02-23 Thread Andre Garzia
On Feb 23, 2005, at 5:21 PM, Rob Meijer wrote: Andre, I cannot find the right syntax. 'Start using' did not match. I am looking for something like: insert script of button wijzigen into script of field content but here I get an errormessage missing script ?? Thanks for

Re: Making Wells aka pseudo-dd

2005-02-23 Thread Jerry Balzano
Thanks to Tom, David, and Jacque for their responses to my query. I'm not using standard drag and drop because I want the user to have color-coded information about what s/he is dragging. If Rev supported color cursors I would be able to live with that, but it doesn't, so I am trying out the

Re: New user just introducing myself...

2005-02-23 Thread Chipp Walters
Mikey, You can download an RTF version of the documentation, but it's from RR 2.1 at my site: bottom of page: http://www.altuit.com/webs/altuit2/RunRev/Links.htm Or, if you send a real nice message to Jerry Daniels he may let you beta test his 'Transcript Gadget' which is an incredibly helpful

Re: Pseudo Drag and Drop question

2005-02-23 Thread Jerry Balzano
OK, on further review ... The maneuver suggested by David Epstein, although it seemed promising at first, won't work. The only way the mouseEnter message gets triggered by the receiving object is (a) if the mouse button is up, and (b) if the moving control is in a layer *beneath* the receiver

Re: Enter key on laptops [OT]

2005-02-23 Thread Jim Hurley
God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And then, off the record, God Aunt Alice, the lesser known fourth person in one God, set to work on this day of rest and created dinosaur fossils. Let them reconcile those fossils with creationism, She chuckled, for She had

Re: New Bugzilla report Bug 2631

2005-02-23 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 2/23/05 12:24 PM, Frank D. Engel, Jr. wrote: File associations are irrelevant for drag 'n drop of document/file icons on an app's icon. That much is true for most operating systems. Not on Macs, though I see now it can be different on Windows. I don't know about the 'nixes. I interpreted

Re: sharedscripts

2005-02-23 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 2/23/05 1:09 PM, Rob Meijer wrote: Goodday I am a newbie in Revolution, being in the trialperiod. I'm glad you came to the list. Welcome. :) In themy resting 19 days I try to translate a Toolbook application to Revolution language. The TB-app is written by myself. I work with TB for 18 years

Re: New Bugzilla report Bug 2631

2005-02-23 Thread Frank D. Engel, Jr.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On the Mac: The creator code is likely ignored when determining which files can be dropped, since you can drop an icon from a program other than the one which created the file (thus the reason for drag-and-drop opening in the first place, otherwise

Rev 2.5 and OSX 10.1

2005-02-23 Thread curry
I'm using Rev 2.0.3 and I was going to try out Rev 2.5, but it crashes on OSX 10.1. This leads me to assume that there must be no beta testers for Rev with 10.1--because the same thing happened with Rev 2.1, I reported a crash and it was later fixed. But 10.1 is officially supported, so it

Rev 2.5

2005-02-23 Thread curry
I can't really try out 2.5 much because it crashes in too many situations with OSX 10.1, but I see enough to raise some questions. Does the RevOnline window always open when you open Revolution, or will it stay shut next time if you close it and quit (without crashing)? I prefer selecting an

Re: New user just introducing myself...

2005-02-23 Thread Todd Higgins
Thanks everyone for the suggestions and comments. I most certainly will not hesitate to ask a questions as I journey down the road to becoming a Revolution builder ;-) Kevin, I agree that there is a lot of high quality introductory material included with 2.5. Its just that right now I can

Re: Rev 2.5 and OSX 10.1

2005-02-23 Thread James Cass
I'm using Rev 2.0.3 and I was going to try out Rev 2.5, but it crashes on OSX 10.1. Are you not even using 10.1.5? Man, you really need to at least move to Jaguar (MacOSX 10.2.8). It is a highly regarded opinion that 10.1 had lots of problems that were finally fixed by 10.2. That's my two

OT religious controversy

2005-02-23 Thread Erik Hansen
i don't happen to be a creationist or intelligent design advocate, but about half of the people in this country are. i am certain that some people on the list are as well. religion and politics are two areas where we should agree to disagree and leave it at that. this list is a community of

Re: Rev 2.5 and OSX 10.1

2005-02-23 Thread Dar Scott
On Feb 23, 2005, at 7:59 PM, James Cass wrote: I'm using Rev 2.0.3 and I was going to try out Rev 2.5, but it crashes on OSX 10.1. Are you not even using 10.1.5? I have a 10.1.5 that I test Rev against when I feel inclined. Curry, I guess you have to be the 10.1 beta tester. (Personally, I

Re: Rev 2.5 and OSX 10.1

2005-02-23 Thread curry
Take a look at the official RunRev operating system requirements. It's *supposed* to work with 10.1. You don't think it's any big deal when the listed requirements don't match? Just upgrade as often as necessary? If I upgraded, then I wouldn't know the difference, wouldn't I? (And apparently,

Re: OT religious controversy

2005-02-23 Thread curry
There is a discussion list for Christian xTalk users (Rev and other IDE's) at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cxtalk/ This is offered for those who wish to talk about their faith, projects, and xTalk IDEs with other users. (Not for pro/con religious controversy and politics per se, sorry, can't

Re: sharedscripts

2005-02-23 Thread Rob Meijer
Hi Jaqueline, Andre and Klaus Thanks to your hint to see Richards article, I found such a large source of Revolutional knowledge, That I use a lot of time to read through all that stuff. I understood that back and front indicate the place in the hierarchy and that messagepath is synonym for the

Re: Rev 2.5

2005-02-23 Thread Dan Shafer
On Feb 23, 2005, at 6:22 PM, curry wrote: I can't really try out 2.5 much because it crashes in too many situations with OSX 10.1, but I see enough to raise some questions. Yeah, you should upgrade to OSX 10.2 or 10.3. Lots of good, non-Rev reasons to do so. Does the RevOnline window always

Re: OT religious controversy

2005-02-23 Thread Dan Shafer
Mark To what was this a response? Dan On Feb 23, 2005, at 7:42 PM, Erik Hansen wrote: i don't happen to be a creationist or intelligent design advocate, but about half of the people in this country are. i am certain that some people on the list are as well. religion and politics are two areas

Re: sharedscripts-workaround

2005-02-23 Thread Rob Meijer
Hi Jaqueline, Andre and Klaus Yes, I found a workaround. In the script of the field I added insert script of btn gocard into front and in the card I put on closecard; remove script of btn gocard from front. I coudn't find a working start using. But I am not pleased to have a lot of (invisible)