Re: anyone know how to fix that silly stack file opening bug on mac os x and rev 4.0

2009-10-26 Thread Jan Schenkel
Is this Snow Leopard by any chance? I got bitten by this too in Quartam Reports Layout builder - there is a change in the AppleEvent data that comes with an 'odoc' event. So if you have an 'editor' application and need to fix your AppleEvent handler, I just published a blog entry describing my

Re: anyone know how to fix that silly stack file opening bug on mac os x and rev 4.0

2009-10-26 Thread Sarah Reichelt
On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 4:18 PM, Jan Schenkel janschen...@yahoo.com wrote: Is this Snow Leopard by any chance? I got bitten by this too in Quartam Reports Layout builder - there is a change in the AppleEvent data that comes with an 'odoc' event. So if you have an 'editor' application and

tRev colorization

2009-10-26 Thread Mark Smith
Anyone know if it's possible to run tRev without script colorization? I just got it, and it seems really, really good, but I can't seem to stop the colorization of scripts. Jerry, anyone? Best, Mark Smith ___ use-revolution mailing list

Re: tRev colorization

2009-10-26 Thread Sarah Reichelt
On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 6:41 PM, Mark Smith li...@futilism.com wrote: Anyone know if it's possible to run tRev without script colorization? I just got it, and it seems really, really good, but I can't seem to stop the colorization of scripts. I don't think you can. here are 2 colour scheme

Re: Behaviors

2009-10-26 Thread Beat Cornaz
Beat wrote : A couple of btns have a behavior (DoA) assigned for mouseUp. Now one of the buttons has an additional task to perform on mouseUp (DoB). 'DoA' needs to be done before 'DoB'. Mark Wieder wrote : Use the dispatch command in the behavior object: on mouseUp DoA dispatch DoB end

Re: anyone know how to fix that silly stack file opening bug on mac os x and rev 4.0

2009-10-26 Thread Jan Schenkel
The big problem is, that it also happens to standalone apps built with Rev 3.5 - so we need to somehow update our 'file editor' applications as well for compatibility with Snow Leopard. Unless Apple decides that its tweaking of the AppleEvent data structure causes too many problems for

Re: tRev colorization

2009-10-26 Thread Jerry Daniels
Color is there. Best, Jerry Daniels Watch tRev - The Movie http://reveditor.com/trev-the-movie On Oct 26, 2009, at 3:41 AM, Mark Smith wrote: Anyone know if it's possible to run tRev without script colorization? I just got it, and it seems really, really good, but I can't seem to stop the

Re: tRev colorization

2009-10-26 Thread Jerry Daniels
tRev's script colorization is always on. Best, Jerry Daniels Watch tRev - The Movie http://reveditor.com/trev-the-movie On Oct 26, 2009, at 8:06 AM, Jerry Daniels wrote: Color is there. Best, Jerry Daniels Watch tRev - The Movie http://reveditor.com/trev-the-movie On Oct 26, 2009, at 3:41

Re: tRev colorization

2009-10-26 Thread Mark Smith
Thanks, Jerry. What are the chances of making it optional in a future release? I find text that is a riot of colour very hard to see as text at all... Best, Mark Smith On 26 Oct 2009, at 13:13, Jerry Daniels wrote: tRev's script colorization is always on. Best, Jerry Daniels Watch tRev

Re: Behaviors

2009-10-26 Thread Trevor DeVore
On Oct 25, 2009, at 11:39 AM, Beat Cornaz wrote: 2. A couple of btns have a behavior (DoA) assigned for mouseUp. Now one of the buttons has an additional task to perform on mouseUp (DoB). 'DoA' needs to be done before 'DoB'. Beat, When working with behaviors and engine events I usually

Re: Dispatch-Sending keyDown

2009-10-26 Thread DunbarX
Mark. A char typed into a field is actually written via a keyDown message reaching the engine. It doesn't just appear there via some other mechanism. At least that is what I believed. How it gets there is a matter of choice. This all seems like what I would consider normal handling. So I just

Re: DataGrid Question

2009-10-26 Thread Trevor DeVore
On Oct 23, 2009, at 11:09 AM, Charles Szasz wrote: Using the RevList and Rev tutorials I have gone through examples of a DataGrid being used to display information from a file. I have not seen any examples of where the user enters the information in an app to get it displayed in a DataGrid.

Re: Dispatch-Sending keyDown

2009-10-26 Thread Richard Gaskin
DunbarX wrote: A char typed into a field is actually written via a keyDown message reaching the engine. It doesn't just appear there via some other mechanism. At least that is what I believed. How it gets there is a matter of choice. This all seems like what I would consider normal handling.

Re: Behaviors

2009-10-26 Thread George C Brackett
So the mouseUp message goes to the control script first (I get confused about this) and, if it's not handled, on to the behavior script, right? So by handling the mouseUp message in the control script, and NOT passing it on, the mouseUp message never reaches the behavior script. Do I have

Re: Behaviors

2009-10-26 Thread Trevor DeVore
On Oct 26, 2009, at 10:39 AM, George C Brackett wrote: So the mouseUp message goes to the control script first (I get confused about this) and, if it's not handled, on to the behavior script, right? So by handling the mouseUp message in the control script, and NOT passing it on, the

Re: Dispatch-Sending keyDown

2009-10-26 Thread DunbarX
Richard. I'm going forward with this: send bugReport to Revolution with messages This may be going on too long. I have missed nothing in your posts to this thread. I appreciate them all, especially dispatch working as I would expect. Of the scenarios you mentioned, you omit the original

Re: Sending keyDown

2009-10-26 Thread Jim Ault
On Oct 21, 2009, at 2:43 PM, dunb...@aol.com wrote: Just when I was thinking I had the differences between HC and Rev down, I stumble. I have an editable field with this handler: on keyDown var send keydown var to this stack put var end keyDown In HC, any text I type gets placed into

Re: Sending keyDown

2009-10-26 Thread DunbarX
Jim. Thanks for the reply. A lot has happened since that first post. Read the whole thread (actually, 2) if you dare. I believe there is a bug in the send command, though some disagree. Using dispatch in the same place works just fine. The code is in the field script; the target is preserved.

Re: tRev colorization

2009-10-26 Thread Jerry Daniels
This Friday you will have some relief from the rioting. Best, Jerry Daniels Watch tRev - The Movie http://reveditor.com/trev-the-movie On Oct 26, 2009, at 8:38 AM, Mark Smith wrote: Thanks, Jerry. What are the chances of making it optional in a future release? I find text that is a riot of

Re: Behaviors

2009-10-26 Thread Mark Wieder
Beat- Monday, October 26, 2009, 3:10:57 AM, you wrote: Because my button to click also has a mouseUp, it will not reach the Don't do that. See Trevor's response. -- -Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net ___ use-revolution mailing list

Re: tRev colorization

2009-10-26 Thread Mark Smith
Jerry, fantastic! The water cannon of software! Best, Mark Smith On 26 Oct 2009, at 16:04, Jerry Daniels wrote: This Friday you will have some relief from the rioting. Best, Jerry Daniels Watch tRev - The Movie http://reveditor.com/trev-the-movie On Oct 26, 2009, at 8:38 AM, Mark Smith

Re: Sending keyDown

2009-10-26 Thread Richard Gaskin
DunbarX wrote: My original intent was to have the char written into the field, and then do stuff with the new text in the very same handler. The send command was at the very beginning. I could not pass keyDown as that terminates the handler. I had found several workarounds, and helpful others

Re: tRev colorization

2009-10-26 Thread Jerry Daniels
We already got three new features for Feature Friday this week. Now I can spend the week testing them. Best, Jerry Daniels The latest tRev Video: http://reveditor.com/feature-friday-column-buttons-better-clairvoy On Oct 26, 2009, at 11:26 AM, Mark Smith wrote: Jerry, fantastic! The water

Re: tRev colorization

2009-10-26 Thread stephen barncard
Tell me if I am wrong, but does any other developer on the planet give better support and more updates than Jerry Daniels? - Stephen Barncard San Francisco http://houseofcubes.com/disco.irev 2009/10/26 Jerry Daniels jerry.dani...@me.com We already got three new

Re: tRev colorization

2009-10-26 Thread Jerry Daniels
Stephen, Thanks for you ultra kind words. I should amend them by saying that I don't always incorporate every suggested feature, change or enhancement to tRev that comes my way. I do listen and respond, however, and do not hide behind a database or give pat answers. Sometimes this

Solution for opening problems on Mac with Snow Leopard

2009-10-26 Thread Sandra HARGROVE
Hi, This is how you solve the opening problems with Revolution on Macs using Snow Leopard. 1) Go back to the original Snow Leopard System application disk and load the program called Rossetta. In the new Mac version it is included separately on the disk. 2) Once it is loaded, select your

Re: tRev colorization

2009-10-26 Thread stephen barncard
2009/10/26 Jerry Daniels jerry.dani...@me.com Stephen, Thanks for you ultra kind words. I should amend them by saying that I don't always incorporate every suggested feature, change or enhancement to tRev that comes my way. I do listen and respond, however, and do not hide behind a database

Re: Dispatch-Sending keyDown

2009-10-26 Thread Richard Gaskin
J. Landman Gay I think Craig's question is more basic. He wonders why sending some keywords to a stack will then pass that message along the hierarchy automatically if the target object doesn't have a matching handler, but sending other keywords doesn't. I.e.: send beep to this stack --

Re: Behaviors

2009-10-26 Thread Beat Cornaz
Thanks for your answer Trevor. It works good. I found that it can be even 'easier' : The first part (on mouseUp pBtnNum) of the Behavior Script is not even needed. === Behavior Script === on mouseUp pBtnNum -- This handler can be left out. _mouseUp pBtnNum

Re: Dispatch-Sending keyDown

2009-10-26 Thread J. Landman Gay
Richard Gaskin wrote: Perhaps HC allowed you to send message to any arbitrary point in the message path beyond the current script regardless whether or not there's a handler for it there as a more verbose alternative to pass. But as I explained in detail earlier there are reasons why Rev

Re: Dispatch-Sending keyDown

2009-10-26 Thread Brian Yennie
The way I rationalize it is along your line of thinking, Jacque. Basically I see a system message as something only the engine can create. As soon as you use send, you are creating a custom user- level message like any other. What you have sent is NOT a system message any more, it's just

Re: Behaviors

2009-10-26 Thread George C Brackett
If you leave out the first handler, Beat, other controls that DON'T override the behavior will get no mouseUp behavior at all! George On Oct 26, 2009, at 2:37 PM, Beat Cornaz wrote: Thanks for your answer Trevor. It works good. I found that it can be even 'easier' : The first part (on

Re: Dispatch-Sending keyDown

2009-10-26 Thread DunbarX
Brian. Fair enough. But then we should insist that dispatch not be allowed to send system messages. And now this really is getting to be too much. I love Rev for the same reasons I love HC. They are magnificent intellectual tools manipulatable by mere mortals. Therefore I will cut either any

Re: tRev colorization

2009-10-26 Thread Mark Smith
Well, after my one day of actually using tRev, I'll certainly attest to my delight, despite not liking psychedelic text :), and I've barely scratched the surface. One possible bug to report, though - when I click the close button on the tRev editor, it doesn't close, even though I have

Re: Sending keyDown

2009-10-26 Thread DunbarX
Richard. I am trying to. I was trying to. I will. Craig In a message dated 10/26/09 12:49:15 PM, ambassa...@fourthworld.com writes: Know the engine. Trust the engine. Use the engine. ___ use-revolution mailing list

Re: Dispatch-Sending keyDown

2009-10-26 Thread Brian Yennie
This is probably highly unnecessary, but I found it interesting to imagine: on keyDown pass keyDown to this stack end keyDown A pass with a target =)! The way I rationalize it is along your line of thinking, Jacque. Basically I see a system message as something only the engine can

Re: Dispatch-Sending keyDown

2009-10-26 Thread Brian Yennie
Well I did say *if* Rev is going to be strict. I have no idea whether it should be =). But yes, I would say send and dispatch should follow the same rules here. On the second part... amen. Fair enough. But then we should insist that dispatch not be allowed to send system messages. And

[ANN] tRev QuickStart Keyboard Shortcuts updated

2009-10-26 Thread Jerry Daniels
Friends of tRev, I have updated to QuickStart documentation for tRev: http://reveditor.com/trev-quickstart-get-started-fast This compact PDF now reflects the recent enhancements to the Object Browser. -- I have also updated the Shortcuts documentation for Mac and PC:

Re: tRev colorization

2009-10-26 Thread Jerry Daniels
Mark, You're entirely welcome. Glad you like tRev. If you find an anomaly, please email me (je...@reveditor.com) with the details (what led up to it, what you're running, etc.). I don't want to overstay my welcome on the Rev list by doing full-fledged support, here. Briefly... I

Re: Dispatch-Sending keyDown

2009-10-26 Thread Richard Gaskin
DunbarX wrote: Fair enough. But then we should insist that dispatch not be allowed to send system messages. And now this really is getting to be too much. I agree that messages should be allowed with send and dispatch so long as there's a handler for them. If you file a bug report about

Re: Sending keyDown

2009-10-26 Thread DunbarX
There is a sentence at the bottom of the pass entry in the dictionary: Important! You cannot use the pass command to pass a message that was originally sent with the send command. You cannot pass pass if it was sent with send. Is there a hint here? Jacques? Craig

Re: Dispatch-Sending keyDown

2009-10-26 Thread DunbarX
Richard: Bug report # 8372. Craig In a message dated 10/26/09 3:13:52 PM, ambassa...@fourthworld.com writes: If you file a bug report about dispatch allowing this while send doesn't, please post the RQCC number so I can track it.  TIA. ___

anyone know how to reconnect tRev with Revolution?

2009-10-26 Thread Josh Mellicker
tRev was working, but now the agents connecting tRev with Revolution have apparently gone rogue. recipe: launch tRev tRev launches Rev automatically open stack from within Rev edit script of something Rev's default editor appears tRev just sits there, empty. Snow Leopard. Rev 4.0.0 dp-4 Has

Re: Sending keyDown

2009-10-26 Thread J. Landman Gay
dunb...@aol.com wrote: There is a sentence at the bottom of the pass entry in the dictionary: Important! You cannot use the pass command to pass a message that was originally sent with the send command. You cannot pass pass if it was sent with send. Is there a hint here? Jacques? I

[OT] tip: use jumpcut for multiple clipboards - OS X 10.3.9 or later

2009-10-26 Thread Josh Mellicker
Ever jump to a different script (or email, document, etc.) and need to copy more than one thing? Rather than going back and forth, just install jumpcut: http://jumpcut.sourceforge.net/ You can copy script snippets, multiple phrases, whatever (I've only used it for text), then when pasting,

Re: anyone know how to reconnect tRev with Revolution?

2009-10-26 Thread Jerry Daniels
Snow Leopard / Rev bug. See tRev site. Search for Snow Leopard. Well known problem. To be fixed by Rev in next version of 4.0. Best, Jerry Daniels The latest tRev Video: http://reveditor.com/feature-friday-column-buttons-better-clairvoy On Oct 26, 2009, at 4:18 PM, Josh Mellicker wrote: tRev

Re: anyone know how to reconnect tRev with Revolution?

2009-10-26 Thread Josh Mellicker
This was something different, but I fixed it by holding option when launching tRev and it is alive again. On Oct 26, 2009, at 2:25 PM, Jerry Daniels wrote: Snow Leopard / Rev bug. See tRev site. Search for Snow Leopard. Well known problem. To be fixed by Rev in next version of 4.0. Best,

Re: tRev colorization

2009-10-26 Thread Sarah Reichelt
On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 3:14 AM, stephen barncard stephenrevoluti...@barncard.com wrote: Tell me if I am wrong, but does any other developer on the planet give better support and more updates than Jerry Daniels? You're not wrong :-) ___ use-revolution

Re: Sending keyDown

2009-10-26 Thread DunbarX
Jacques: Yes, beep is passed to the engine. So is find and put. I assume most, if not all messages are. None of the key or rawKey messages work, though. Maybe just something about keyWhatEver? I will amend the bug report to include the other messages. Craig In a message dated 10/26/09

Re: [ANN] tRev QuickStart Keyboard Shortcuts updated

2009-10-26 Thread George C Brackett
Jerry, neither link leads to a page with an active Download link, even though the link is there and a tool-tip promises to download. Is there a workaround? George On Oct 26, 2009, at 3:02 PM, Jerry Daniels wrote: Friends of tRev, I have updated to QuickStart documentation for tRev:

Re: [ANN] tRev QuickStart Keyboard Shortcuts updated

2009-10-26 Thread Jerry Daniels
George, I just fixed the post a bit. There is a link right above the document now. Click that and you'll be taken to Scribd where you can download it in a couple formats. Best, Jerry Daniels The latest tRev Video: http://reveditor.com/feature-friday-column-buttons-better-clairvoy On Oct

Re: [OT] tip: use jumpcut for multiple clipboards - OS X 10.3.9 or later

2009-10-26 Thread Jim Ault
On Oct 26, 2009, at 2:25 PM, Josh Mellicker wrote: Ever jump to a different script (or email, document, etc.) and need to copy more than one thing? Rather than going back and forth, just install jumpcut: http://jumpcut.sourceforge.net/ You can copy script snippets, multiple phrases,

Re: [ANN] tRev QuickStart Keyboard Shortcuts updated

2009-10-26 Thread George C Brackett
Thanks - I was able to download the updated docs. I have to say, though: I don't like Scribd much. You have to (a) register for an account and then (b) navigate through a big invitation to subscribe to work by all kinds of random people. The first time I used the site I didn't see the

Re: [OT] tip: use jumpcut for multiple clipboards - OS X 10.3.9 or later

2009-10-26 Thread George C Brackett
I really like PTHPasteboard Pro (http://pth.com/products/ pthpasteboard/). Simple, straightforward, does what you need. George On Oct 26, 2009, at 8:22 PM, Jim Ault wrote: On Oct 26, 2009, at 2:25 PM, Josh Mellicker wrote: Ever jump to a different script (or email, document, etc.) and need

Re: [ANN] tRev QuickStart Keyboard Shortcuts updated

2009-10-26 Thread Jerry Daniels
There's a way around this going to Scribd thing. I'll have to go back to deleting and then uploading a new version every time. That way, the download links will work again. I was trying to be clever. That doesn't always work. Best, Jerry Daniels The latest tRev Video:

Re: [ANN] tRev QuickStart Keyboard Shortcuts updated

2009-10-26 Thread Josh Mellicker
On Oct 26, 2009, at 6:25 PM, George C Brackett wrote: I don't like Scribd much. I agree, not for software documentation. Jerry, have you thought about Screensteps? It publishes to HTML, PDF, and screenstepslive.com, very easy to update. ___

Re: DataGrid Question

2009-10-26 Thread Chris Wood
Charles, Perhaps this is not the best way to do it but it works. In this example there is an existing table style DataGrid with 4 columns named First, Last DOB Age. code --Get existing number of lines put the dgNumberOfLines of group DataGrid 1 into theLineNo put theLineNo + 1

Re: DataGrid Question

2009-10-26 Thread Chris Wood
Trevor, That is excellent, its cut the code I was using inhalf (and I learnt about the dispatch command)! code put into theNewRecord[First] put into theNewRecord[Last] put into theNewRecord[DOB] put into theNewRecord[Age] put 1 into theLineNo dispatch AddData to Group

urlstatus question

2009-10-26 Thread ron barber
Greetings, I am downloading a file from the web to my HD using libURLDownloadToFile. I copied the scripts in Rev's user guide which also says: As the URLStatus changes periodically throughout the download process, the button's showStatus handler is executed repeatedly. Each time a showStatus

[OT] Living in Silicon Valley

2009-10-26 Thread Scott Rossi
Even with the the ultra-high cost of living, the traffic, and the unemployment, sometimes living in California's Silicon Valley has a silver lining. http://www.thetech.org/StarTrek/ Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, Multimedia Design

Re: [ANN] tRev QuickStart Keyboard Shortcuts updated

2009-10-26 Thread Jerry Daniels
Friendly advice givers... I have lots of thoughts. But I'm learning when to ignore them. I have used Screensteps since before it came out. I like it. Some people have told me how much they like Scribd. So, I'll probably keep using Scribd since Posterous will automatically render my PDFs to

Re: [OT] Living in Silicon Valley

2009-10-26 Thread Jim sims
On 10/27/09, Scott Rossi sc...@tactilemedia.com wrote: Even with the the ultra-high cost of living, the traffic, and the unemployment, sometimes living in California's Silicon Valley has a silver lining. http://www.thetech.org/StarTrek/ That looks suspiciously like one of your Halloween