On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 4:18 PM, Jan Schenkel wrote:
> Is this Snow Leopard by any chance?
> I got bitten by this too in Quartam Reports Layout builder - there is a
> change in the AppleEvent data that comes with an 'odoc' event. So if you have
> an 'editor' application and need to fix your Appl
Anyone know if it's possible to run tRev without script colorization?
I just got it, and it seems really, really good, but I can't seem to
stop the colorization of scripts.
Jerry, anyone?
Best,
Mark Smith
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On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 6:41 PM, Mark Smith wrote:
> Anyone know if it's possible to run tRev without script colorization?
>
> I just got it, and it seems really, really good, but I can't seem to stop
> the colorization of scripts.
>
I don't think you can. here are 2 colour scheme options (settab
Beat wrote :
>A couple of btns have a behavior (DoA) assigned for mouseUp. Now
>one of the buttons has an additional task to perform on mouseUp
>(DoB). 'DoA' needs to be done before 'DoB'.
Mark Wieder wrote :
>Use the dispatch command in the behavior object:
>on mouseUp
> DoA
> dispatch "DoB"
>
The big problem is, that it also happens to standalone apps built with Rev 3.5
- so we need to somehow update our 'file editor' applications as well for
compatibility with Snow Leopard.
Unless Apple decides that its tweaking of the AppleEvent data structure causes
too many problems for non-Cocoa
Color is there.
Best,
Jerry Daniels
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http://reveditor.com/trev-the-movie
On Oct 26, 2009, at 3:41 AM, Mark Smith wrote:
Anyone know if it's possible to run tRev without script colorization?
I just got it, and it seems really, really good, but I can't seem to
stop the
tRev's script colorization is always on.
Best,
Jerry Daniels
Watch tRev - The Movie
http://reveditor.com/trev-the-movie
On Oct 26, 2009, at 8:06 AM, Jerry Daniels wrote:
Color is there.
Best,
Jerry Daniels
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On Oct 26, 2009, at 3:41
Thanks, Jerry. What are the chances of making it optional in a future
release? I find text that is a riot of colour very hard to see as
text at all...
Best,
Mark Smith
On 26 Oct 2009, at 13:13, Jerry Daniels wrote:
tRev's script colorization is always on.
Best,
Jerry Daniels
Watch tRev
On Oct 25, 2009, at 11:39 AM, Beat Cornaz wrote:
2. A couple of btns have a behavior (DoA) assigned for mouseUp. Now
one of the buttons has an additional task to perform on mouseUp
(DoB). 'DoA' needs to be done before 'DoB'.
Beat,
When working with behaviors and engine events I usually de
Mark.
A char typed into a field is actually written via a "keyDown" message
reaching the engine. It doesn't just appear there via some other mechanism. At
least that is what I believed. How it gets there is a matter of choice. This
all seems like what I would consider "normal handling".
So I j
On Oct 23, 2009, at 11:09 AM, Charles Szasz wrote:
Using the RevList and Rev tutorials I have gone through examples of a
DataGrid being used to display information from a file. I have not
seen any
examples of where the user enters the information in an app to get it
displayed in a DataGrid.
DunbarX wrote:
A char typed into a field is actually written via a "keyDown" message
reaching the engine. It doesn't just appear there via some other mechanism. At
least that is what I believed. How it gets there is a matter of choice. This
all seems like what I would consider "normal handling"
So the mouseUp message goes to the control script first (I get
confused about this) and, if it's not handled, on to the behavior
script, right? So by handling the mouseUp message in the control
script, and NOT passing it on, the mouseUp message never reaches the
behavior script. Do I have t
On Oct 26, 2009, at 10:39 AM, George C Brackett wrote:
So the mouseUp message goes to the control script first (I get
confused about this) and, if it's not handled, on to the behavior
script, right? So by handling the mouseUp message in the control
script, and NOT passing it on, the mouseUp
Richard.
I'm going forward with this:
send "bugReport" to Revolution with messages
This may be going on too long. I have missed nothing in your posts to this
thread. I appreciate them all, especially "dispatch" working as I would
expect.
Of the scenarios you mentioned, you omit the original
On Oct 21, 2009, at 2:43 PM, dunb...@aol.com wrote:
Just when I was thinking I had the differences between HC and Rev
down, I
stumble.
I have an editable field with this handler:
on keyDown var
send "keydown" && var to this stack
put var
end keyDown
In HC, any text I type gets placed in
Jim.
Thanks for the reply. A lot has happened since that first post. Read the
whole thread (actually, 2) if you dare. I believe there is a bug in the "send"
command, though some disagree. Using "dispatch" in the same place works
just fine.
The code is in the field script; the target is preserv
This Friday you will have some relief from the rioting.
Best,
Jerry Daniels
Watch tRev - The Movie
http://reveditor.com/trev-the-movie
On Oct 26, 2009, at 8:38 AM, Mark Smith wrote:
Thanks, Jerry. What are the chances of making it optional in a
future release? I find text that is a riot of c
Beat-
Monday, October 26, 2009, 3:10:57 AM, you wrote:
> Because my button to click also has a mouseUp, it will not reach the
Don't do that. See Trevor's response.
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Jerry, fantastic! The water cannon of software!
Best,
Mark Smith
On 26 Oct 2009, at 16:04, Jerry Daniels wrote:
This Friday you will have some relief from the rioting.
Best,
Jerry Daniels
Watch tRev - The Movie
http://reveditor.com/trev-the-movie
On Oct 26, 2009, at 8:38 AM, Mark Smith wro
DunbarX wrote:
My original intent was to have the char written into the field, and then do
stuff with the new text in the very same handler. The "send" command was at
the very beginning. I could not "pass" keyDown as that terminates the
handler. I had found several workarounds, and helpful othe
We already got three new features for Feature Friday this week. Now I
can spend the week testing them.
Best,
Jerry Daniels
The latest tRev Video:
http://reveditor.com/feature-friday-column-buttons-better-clairvoy
On Oct 26, 2009, at 11:26 AM, Mark Smith wrote:
Jerry, fantastic! The water ca
Tell me if I am wrong, but does any other developer on the planet give
better support and more updates than Jerry Daniels?
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Stephen Barncard
San Francisco
http://houseofcubes.com/disco.irev
2009/10/26 Jerry Daniels
> We already got three new features for Feature Frida
Stephen,
Thanks for you ultra kind words. I should amend them by saying that I
don't always incorporate every suggested feature, change or
enhancement to tRev that comes my way. I do listen and respond,
however, and do not hide behind a database or give pat answers.
Sometimes this approac
Hi,
This is how you solve the opening problems with Revolution on Macs
using Snow Leopard.
1) Go back to the original Snow Leopard System application disk and
load the program called "Rossetta". In the new Mac version it is
included separately on the disk.
2) Once it is loaded, select you
2009/10/26 Jerry Daniels
> Stephen,
>
> Thanks for you ultra kind words. I should amend them by saying that I don't
> always incorporate every suggested feature, change or enhancement to tRev
> that comes my way. I do listen and respond, however, and do not hide behind
> a database or give pat an
J. Landman Gay
I think Craig's question is more basic. He wonders why sending some
keywords to a stack will then pass that message along the hierarchy
automatically if the target object doesn't have a matching handler, but
sending other keywords doesn't. I.e.:
send "beep" to this stack -- pas
Thanks for your answer Trevor. It works good. I found that it can be
even 'easier' :
The first part (on mouseUp pBtnNum) of the Behavior Script is not
even needed.
===
Behavior Script
===
on mouseUp pBtnNum -- This handler can be left out.
_mouseUp pBtnNum
Richard Gaskin wrote:
Perhaps HC allowed you to send message to any arbitrary point in the
message path beyond the current script regardless whether or not there's
a handler for it there as a more verbose alternative to "pass". But as
I explained in detail earlier there are reasons why Rev do
The way I rationalize it is along your line of thinking, Jacque.
Basically I see a system message as something only the engine can
create. As soon as you use "send", you are creating a custom user-
level message like any other. What you have sent is NOT a system
message any more, it's just s
If you leave out the first handler, Beat, other controls that DON'T
override the behavior will get no mouseUp behavior at all!
George
On Oct 26, 2009, at 2:37 PM, Beat Cornaz wrote:
Thanks for your answer Trevor. It works good. I found that it can be
even 'easier' :
The first part (on mou
Brian.
Fair enough. But then we should insist that "dispatch" not be allowed to
"send" system messages. And now this really is getting to be too much.
I love Rev for the same reasons I love HC. They are magnificent
intellectual tools manipulatable by mere mortals. Therefore I will cut either
a
Well, after my one day of actually using tRev, I'll certainly attest
to my delight, despite not liking psychedelic text :), and I've
barely scratched the surface.
One possible bug to report, though - when I click the close button on
the tRev editor, it doesn't close, even though I have "kee
Richard.
I am trying to.
I was trying to.
I will.
Craig
In a message dated 10/26/09 12:49:15 PM, ambassa...@fourthworld.com writes:
> Know the engine.
> Trust the engine.
> Use the engine.
>
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This is probably highly unnecessary, but I found it interesting to
imagine:
on keyDown
pass keyDown to this stack
end keyDown
A "pass" with a target =)!
The way I rationalize it is along your line of thinking, Jacque.
Basically I see a system message as something only the engine can
cr
Well I did say *if* Rev is going to be strict. I have no idea whether
it should be =). But yes, I would say send and dispatch should follow
the same rules here.
On the second part... amen.
Fair enough. But then we should insist that "dispatch" not be
allowed to
"send" system messages. And
Friends of tRev,
I have updated to QuickStart documentation for tRev:
http://reveditor.com/trev-quickstart-get-started-fast
This compact PDF now reflects the recent enhancements to the Object
Browser.
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Mark,
You're entirely welcome. Glad you like tRev. If you find an anomaly,
please email me (je...@reveditor.com) with the details (what led up to
it, what you're running, etc.). I don't want to overstay my welcome on
the Rev list by doing full-fledged support, here.
Briefly...
I couldn't
DunbarX wrote:
Fair enough. But then we should insist that "dispatch" not be allowed to
"send" system messages. And now this really is getting to be too much.
I agree that messages should be allowed with send and dispatch so long
as there's a handler for them.
If you file a bug report about
There is a sentence at the bottom of the "pass" entry in the dictionary:
Important! You cannot use the pass command to pass a message that was
originally sent with the send command.
You cannot pass "pass" if it was sent with "send". Is there a hint here?
Jacques?
Craig
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Richard:
Bug report # 8372.
Craig
In a message dated 10/26/09 3:13:52 PM, ambassa...@fourthworld.com writes:
> If you file a bug report about dispatch allowing this while send
> doesn't, please post the RQCC number so I can track it. TIA.
>
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tRev was working, but now the "agents" connecting tRev with Revolution
have apparently gone rogue.
recipe:
launch tRev
tRev launches Rev automatically
open stack from within Rev
edit script of something
Rev's default editor appears
tRev just sits there, empty.
Snow Leopard. Rev 4.0.0 dp-4
Ha
dunb...@aol.com wrote:
There is a sentence at the bottom of the "pass" entry in the dictionary:
Important! You cannot use the pass command to pass a message that was
originally sent with the send command.
You cannot pass "pass" if it was sent with "send". Is there a hint here?
Jacques?
Ever jump to a different script (or email, document, etc.) and need to
copy more than one thing?
Rather than going back and forth, just install jumpcut:
http://jumpcut.sourceforge.net/
You can copy script snippets, multiple phrases, whatever (I've only
used it for text), then when pasting,
Snow Leopard / Rev bug. See tRev site. Search for "Snow Leopard".
Well known problem. To be fixed by Rev in next version of 4.0.
Best,
Jerry Daniels
The latest tRev Video:
http://reveditor.com/feature-friday-column-buttons-better-clairvoy
On Oct 26, 2009, at 4:18 PM, Josh Mellicker wrote:
tRe
This was something different, but I fixed it by holding option when
launching tRev and it is alive again.
On Oct 26, 2009, at 2:25 PM, Jerry Daniels wrote:
Snow Leopard / Rev bug. See tRev site. Search for "Snow Leopard".
Well known problem. To be fixed by Rev in next version of 4.0.
Best,
On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 3:14 AM, stephen barncard
wrote:
> Tell me if I am wrong, but does any other developer on the planet give
> better support and more updates than Jerry Daniels?
You're not wrong :-)
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Jacques:
Yes, "beep" is passed to the engine. So is "find" and "put". I assume most,
if not all messages are. None of the key or rawKey messages work, though.
Maybe just something about keyWhatEver? I will amend the bug report to
include the other messages.
Craig
In a message dated 10/26/09 5
Jerry, neither link leads to a page with an active Download link, even
though the link is there and a tool-tip promises to download. Is
there a workaround?
George
On Oct 26, 2009, at 3:02 PM, Jerry Daniels wrote:
Friends of tRev,
I have updated to QuickStart documentation for tRev:
ht
George,
I just fixed the post a bit. There is a link right above the document
now. Click that and you'll be taken to Scribd where you can download
it in a couple formats.
Best,
Jerry Daniels
The latest tRev Video:
http://reveditor.com/feature-friday-column-buttons-better-clairvoy
On Oct 2
On Oct 26, 2009, at 2:25 PM, Josh Mellicker wrote:
Ever jump to a different script (or email, document, etc.) and need
to copy more than one thing?
Rather than going back and forth, just install jumpcut:
http://jumpcut.sourceforge.net/
You can copy script snippets, multiple phrases, whateve
Thanks - I was able to download the updated docs. I have to say,
though: I don't like Scribd much. You have to (a) register for an
account and then (b) navigate through a big invitation to subscribe to
work by all kinds of random people. The first time I used the site I
didn't see the downl
I really like PTHPasteboard Pro (http://pth.com/products/
pthpasteboard/). Simple, straightforward, does what you need.
George
On Oct 26, 2009, at 8:22 PM, Jim Ault wrote:
On Oct 26, 2009, at 2:25 PM, Josh Mellicker wrote:
Ever jump to a different script (or email, document, etc.) and need
There's a way around this going to Scribd thing. I'll have to go back
to deleting and then uploading a new version every time. That way, the
download links will work again. I was trying to be clever. That
doesn't always work.
Best,
Jerry Daniels
The latest tRev Video:
http://reveditor.com/
On Oct 26, 2009, at 6:25 PM, George C Brackett wrote:
I don't like Scribd much.
I agree, not for software documentation. Jerry, have you thought about
Screensteps? It publishes to HTML, PDF, and screenstepslive.com, very
easy to update.
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Charles,
Perhaps this is not the best way to do it but it works. In this example
there is an existing table style DataGrid with 4 columns named First, Last
DOB & Age.
--Get existing number of lines
put the dgNumberOfLines of group "DataGrid 1" into theLineNo
put theLineNo + 1 into
Trevor,
That is excellent, its cut the code I was using inhalf (and I learnt about
the dispatch command)!
put "" into theNewRecord["First"]
put "" into theNewRecord["Last"]
put "" into theNewRecord["DOB"]
put "" into theNewRecord["Age"]
put 1 into theLineNo
dispatch "AddD
Greetings,
I am downloading a file from the web to my HD using
libURLDownloadToFile. I copied the scripts in Rev's user guide which
also says:
"As the URLStatus changes periodically throughout the download
process, the button's
showStatus handler is executed repeatedly. Each time a showStatus
mes
Even with the the ultra-high cost of living, the traffic, and the
unemployment, sometimes living in California's Silicon Valley has a silver
lining.
http://www.thetech.org/StarTrek/
Regards,
Scott Rossi
Creative Director
Tactile Media, Multimedia & Design
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I have lots of thoughts. But I'm learning when to ignore them.
I have used Screensteps since before it came out. I like it. Some
people have told me how much they like Scribd. So, I'll probably keep
using Scribd since Posterous will automatically render my PDFs to i
On 10/27/09, Scott Rossi wrote:
> Even with the the ultra-high cost of living, the traffic, and the
> unemployment, sometimes living in California's Silicon Valley has a silver
> lining.
>
> http://www.thetech.org/StarTrek/
That looks suspiciously like one of your Halloween extravaganzas...
h
Hi,
this question has been raising to my mind mind lately. I have not been
able to connect Oracle with Revolution using the normal connection
identifiers. So my question is if the Revolution really is supporting
Oracle connections or is it just a hoax? It could be that I'm making the
mistake whe
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