Re: Quicktime and the Snow Leopard

2009-09-09 Thread Bernard Devlin
Thanks for that link, Björnke. After reading the relevant pages of the Ars Technica review, and going through the comments, I found a reference to this discussion entry, which seems to clarify the current situation vis a vis Snow Leopard (which distinguishes between QT the framework and QT the

Re: Quicktime and the Snow Leopard

2009-09-09 Thread Ian Wood
As far as I know LiveStage Pro/Totally Hip died a couple of years back (last release 2006 for QT6), presumably because each new version of QT broke more and more of the interactive features. Dropping support for Flash tracks was the real killer, but LSP was already dead by then. :-( Ian

Re: Quicktime and the Snow Leopard

2009-09-09 Thread Richmond Mathewson
Inevitably I am going to say what I have been banging on about for quite some time: I believe it is in Runtime Revolution's interests to free themselves from a dependence on Quicktime; preferably rolling their own stuff to handle multimedia: maybe so that all the multimedia capabilities offered by

Re: Quicktime and the Snow Leopard

2009-09-09 Thread François Chaplais
Le 9 sept. 09, à 11:28, Richmond Mathewson a écrit : Inevitably I am going to say what I have been banging on about for quite some time: I believe it is in Runtime Revolution's interests to free themselves from a dependence on Quicktime; preferably rolling their own stuff to handle

Re: Quicktime and the Snow Leopard

2009-09-09 Thread Richmond Mathewson
I know that RR's expertise is not in the QT territory; but I still cannot helpthinking that beyond dependence on operating systems (well . . . Google Chrome, Runtime Revolution Doors 95 . . . ) that it would behoove them to be less rather than more dependent on external software. 2009/9/9

Re: Quicktime and the Snow Leopard

2009-09-09 Thread Bernard Devlin
I have to agree with François. There is no way that RunRev on their own could produce a multimedia tool to equal QT. We just have to hope that QT will be developed in such a way that in the future it will still work with those tools that edit QT movies. It's a poor show that Apple does not

Re: Quicktime and the Snow Leopard

2009-09-09 Thread Richard Gaskin
Bernard Devlin wrote: There is no way that RunRev on their own could produce a multimedia tool to equal QT. I can't imagine they would ever try. Far better would be to simply make better use of the various APIs available for Win and Linux. I like QT for many things, but sometimes I just

Re: Quicktime and the Snow Leopard

2009-09-09 Thread Richmond Mathewson
Flash - Smash! Poo! I have a feeling that if we all make an effort we can leverage the revLets and the web plug-in to leave Flash far behind. And, while we are on the subject; there are other, less obvious,ways to provide animation and so on on RR. A while back (wait until I am back in Bulgaria

Re: Quicktime and the Snow Leopard

2009-09-09 Thread François Chaplais
Le 8 sept. 09, à 22:56, Björnke von Gierke a écrit : On 8 Sep 2009, at 17:05, Trevor DeVore wrote: I hope there is more logic in the OS X installer then just luck ;-) It would be nice to find out what the determining factor is. I don't have snow leper installed, but I've read the ars

Re: Quicktime and the Snow Leopard

2009-09-09 Thread Richmond Mathewson
Le 8 sept. 09, à 22:56, Björnke von Gierke a écrit : I don't have snow leper installed, but I've read the ars technica review. Oh, Gosh, I'm sorry, but this is just TOO GOOD not to pick up on. presumably that is why several people at the conference were looking rather pale: some bad cases

Re: Quicktime and the Snow Leopard

2009-09-08 Thread Klaus Major
Hi all, for your interest: Trevors wonderful Enhanced QuickTime external works fine on OS X 10.6, so does my freeware The Exporter, which was made with Rev 3.5 and this external :-) Best Klaus -- Klaus Major http://www.major-k.de kl...@major.on-rev.com

Re: Quicktime and the Snow Leopard

2009-09-08 Thread Klaus Major
Hi sims, On Sep 8, 2009, at 9:19 AM, Klaus Major wrote: for your interest: Trevors wonderful Enhanced QuickTime external works fine on OS X 10.6, so does my freeware The Exporter, which was made with Rev 3.5 and this external :-) When you upgraded to 10.6 did you have to elect to

Re: Quicktime and the Snow Leopard

2009-09-08 Thread Sarah Reichelt
When you upgraded to 10.6 did you have to elect to re-install QT 7? If so, was it obvious where or how to do so? Yes, you have to choose it, it is not installed by default. You have to Customize the install to do it. Did you need to re-register QT 7 to make it QT Pro (assuming you had QT

Re: Quicktime and the Snow Leopard

2009-09-08 Thread Trevor DeVore
On Sep 8, 2009, at 4:35 AM, Sarah Reichelt wrote: When you upgraded to 10.6 did you have to elect to re-install QT 7? If so, was it obvious where or how to do so? Yes, you have to choose it, it is not installed by default. You have to Customize the install to do it. You only have to

Re: Quicktime and the Snow Leopard

2009-09-08 Thread Colin Holgate
On Sep 8, 2009, at 10:49 AM, Trevor DeVore wrote: You only have to choose to install QT7 if you don't have Pro installed on your current OS X install. I just upgraded two machines to Snow Leopard last night. When running the 10.6 installer on the laptop with QT 7 Pro installed QT 7 was

Re: Quicktime and the Snow Leopard

2009-09-08 Thread Trevor DeVore
On Sep 8, 2009, at 11:01 AM, Colin Holgate wrote: On Sep 8, 2009, at 10:49 AM, Trevor DeVore wrote: You only have to choose to install QT7 if you don't have Pro installed on your current OS X install. I just upgraded two machines to Snow Leopard last night. When running the 10.6

Re: Quicktime and the Snow Leopard

2009-09-08 Thread Björnke von Gierke
On 8 Sep 2009, at 17:05, Trevor DeVore wrote: I hope there is more logic in the OS X installer then just luck ;-) It would be nice to find out what the determining factor is. I don't have snow leper installed, but I've read the ars technica review. Basically there's two things going

Re: Quicktime and the Snow Leopard

2009-09-08 Thread Klaus on-rev
Am 08.09.2009 um 22:56 schrieb Björnke von Gierke: On 8 Sep 2009, at 17:05, Trevor DeVore wrote: I hope there is more logic in the OS X installer then just luck ;-) It would be nice to find out what the determining factor is. I don't have snow leper snow LEPER? C'mon Björnke, it cannot

Re: Quicktime and the Snow Leopard

2009-09-08 Thread Colin Holgate
On Sep 8, 2009, at 5:14 PM, Björnke von Gierke wrote: That's just how lill steve says the name... but then it might be my hearing ;) The same Steve that kept referring to Jag-Wire? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com

Re: Quicktime and the Snow Leopard

2009-09-08 Thread Björnke von Gierke
On 8 Sep 2009, at 23:01, Klaus on-rev wrote: snow LEPER? C'mon Björnke, it cannot be THAT bad! :-D That's just how lill steve says the name... but then it might be my hearing ;) I would have installed it, but the clerk said to me: it is sold out the second time over already. --

Re: Quicktime and the Snow Leopard

2009-09-07 Thread Bernard Devlin
I've been exploring QT a lot in the past few months for a project I have in mind. And the changes from QT7 to QTX do give me cause for concern. Especially since so much of the information on QT on developer.apple.com has been marked as 'legacy'. Since Apple has spent so long building on top of

RE: Quicktime and the Snow Leopard

2009-09-07 Thread Lynn Fredricks
which would seem to suggest that if one authors for Mac OS 10.6 one cannot really rely on Quicktime as we on Mac 10.4 and 10.5 understand it. This may impinge on how Revolution leverages Quicktime for its multimedia capabilities. I found this to be interesting:

Re: Quicktime and the Snow Leopard

2009-09-07 Thread Colin Holgate
The new QuickTime Player is fairly neat, and will do most of the things that most people will need to do. For us who need to do more complex editing, or adding of multiple tracks and so on, we can install the QuickTime Player 7. As for what Rev can play back, it's probably best to just try

Re: Quicktime and the Snow Leopard

2009-09-07 Thread Neal Campbell
In would caution that you are also dealing with a version 1.0 or a very majory rewrite. It will grow and accumulate fixes, new functionalities and weirdnesses all its own. Neal Campbell Abroham Neal Software www.dxbase.com www.abrohamnealsoftware.com www.sdrsystems.com (540) 242 0911 Amateur

RE: Quicktime and the Snow Leopard

2009-09-07 Thread Lynn Fredricks
Hi Colin, The only things that I know of that QTX has trouble playing is .MID and QTVR. In RevMedia I can play an old QTVR panorama, a cubic QTVR, and an MOV with a MID track in it (Rev hates just MID on its own, but is fine with a MOV that has a video track and a MID track). This all

Re: Quicktime and the Snow Leopard

2009-09-07 Thread Colin Holgate
On Sep 7, 2009, at 1:29 PM, Lynn Fredricks wrote: Can you confirm if the QTVRs are working with Quicktime 7 not installed, or if it requires Quicktime 7? Also, did you try anything with hotspots? Not easily, and no to hotspots. Is there a movie online I can try?

RE: Quicktime and the Snow Leopard

2009-09-07 Thread Lynn Fredricks
Hi Colin, Can you confirm if the QTVRs are working with Quicktime 7 not installed, or if it requires Quicktime 7? Also, did you try anything with hotspots? Not easily, and no to hotspots. Is there a movie online I can try? The VR Worx is a good example site for the various types -

Re: Quicktime and the Snow Leopard

2009-09-07 Thread Colin Holgate
On Sep 7, 2009, at 1:43 PM, Lynn Fredricks wrote: http://www.vrtoolbox.com/gallery/scene_gallery/scene_gallery.html I tried the scene one, and an object one, and they both worked fine. ___ use-revolution mailing list