Re: on-rev example: 'globals.cgi' conversion

2009-04-19 Thread Phil Davis
J. Landman Gay wrote: Phil Davis wrote: I was pretending to be an application. So I produced a web page only an application could love! ;o) Oh just confess. You're a bot, right? ;) Dang. Ummm... no, REALLY, I'm totally human! Like other fellow humans, I have many popular psychoprogram

Re: on-rev example: 'globals.cgi' conversion

2009-04-18 Thread Andre.Bisseret
Le 18 avr. 09 à 06:03, Phil Davis a écrit : A quick on-rev example: Just to get started, I converted my 'globals' CGI script to an on- rev web page: !DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN HTML HEAD LANG=en TITLE?rev put the short date the long time ?/TITLE

Re: on-rev example: 'globals.cgi' conversion

2009-04-18 Thread Ian Wood
On 18 Apr 2009, at 09:33, Andre.Bisseret wrote: Bonjour, Clicking on the URL I get the following lines Being rather naive about web programming, I must confess, I am still in the dark ;-)) Was it really what you expected one discovers? I was expecting something like a beautiful web page

Re: on-rev example: 'globals.cgi' conversion

2009-04-18 Thread Andre.Bisseret
Le 18 avr. 09 à 11:35, Ian Wood a écrit : On 18 Apr 2009, at 09:33, Andre.Bisseret wrote: Bonjour, Clicking on the URL I get the following lines Being rather naive about web programming, I must confess, I am still in the dark ;-)) Was it really what you expected one discovers? I was

Re: on-rev example: 'globals.cgi' conversion

2009-04-18 Thread Mark Smith
I just uploaded the 3.5 linux engine (which works fine for cgis in Dreamhost) to on-rev, and so far can't make it work - getting 500 server errors...will keep trying. Best, Mark On 18 Apr 2009, at 06:58, Jim Ault wrote: Very cool, Phil. And now it could be time for the benchmark wizard

Re-2: on-rev example: 'globals.cgi' conversion

2009-04-18 Thread runrev260805
Subject: Re: on-rev example: 'globals.cgi' conversion (18-Apr-2009 16:16) From:Mark Smith li...@futilism.com To: runrev260...@m-r-d.de I just uploaded the 3.5 linux engine (which works fine for cgis in Dreamhost) to on-rev, and so far can't make it work - getting 500 server errors

Re: Re-2: on-rev example: 'globals.cgi' conversion

2009-04-18 Thread Mark Smith
in Jacqueline´s tutorial at http://www.hyperactivesw.com/cgitutorial/ Worked here. http://www.multitronic.me/cgi-bin/test.cgi Regards, Matthias Original Message Subject: Re: on-rev example: 'globals.cgi' conversion (18-Apr-2009 16:16) From:Mark Smith li...@futilism.com

Re: on-rev example: 'globals.cgi' conversion

2009-04-18 Thread Phil Davis
I just set up a CGI in my on-rev account that is 'mostly' equivalent to the .irev web page (on-rev) approach, and tried it out. I was a little surprised that the CGI execution speed is almost the same as with on-rev: revCGI = This page of code executed in 0.000242 secs. on-rev = This page of

Re: on-rev example: 'globals.cgi' conversion

2009-04-18 Thread Richard Gaskin
Phil Davis wrote: I just set up a CGI in my on-rev account that is 'mostly' equivalent to the .irev web page (on-rev) approach, and tried it out. I was a little surprised that the CGI execution speed is almost the same as with on-rev: revCGI = This page of code executed in 0.000242 secs.

Re: on-rev example: 'globals.cgi' conversion

2009-04-18 Thread Mark Smith
On 18 Apr 2009, at 20:24, Richard Gaskin wrote: The CGI is indeed fast, but if the timing is being measured inside the script it's not accounting for the biggest difference between the CGI and on-Rev: on-Rev has no load time to bring the engine into memory and initialize it since it's

Re: on-rev example: 'globals.cgi' conversion

2009-04-18 Thread Ian Wood
On 18 Apr 2009, at 20:44, Mark Smith wrote: I'll leave it up for a few hours if anyone wants to try it out (I'd also be interested in other people's timing from different places - I'm in London). From Devon, some pretty varied results... irev:1518 md5-hmac =

Re: on-rev example: 'globals.cgi' conversion

2009-04-18 Thread Jim Ault
Changed the last line of your script to get irev: tTimA tResA cr cgi: tTimB tResB put msg cr cr it into msg --to concatenate results After waiting 30 seconds, 4 clicks 1 second apart = 4 results listed below - irev:115 md5-hmac = 7e5872da5d34a822584a698fe7db6c10 cgi:83

Re: on-rev example: 'globals.cgi' conversion

2009-04-18 Thread François Chaplais
Le 18 avr. 09 à 10:33, Andre.Bisseret a écrit : Le 18 avr. 09 à 06:03, Phil Davis a écrit : A quick on-rev example: Just to get started, I converted my 'globals' CGI script to an on- rev web page: !DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN HTML HEAD LANG=en TITLE?rev

Re: on-rev example: 'globals.cgi' conversion

2009-04-18 Thread François Chaplais
Le 18 avr. 09 à 22:29, François Chaplais a écrit : I agree with Andre. To the average web user, what is displayed is pretty awful, and, even to a person with little rev experience such as me, the actual rev script is shorter and simpler to understand than to web output. This is not

Re: on-rev example: 'globals.cgi' conversion

2009-04-18 Thread J. Landman Gay
François Chaplais wrote: I agree with Andre. To the average web user, what is displayed is pretty awful, and, even to a person with little rev experience such as me, the actual rev script is shorter and simpler to understand than to web output. This is not meant to be aggressive towards Phil,

Re: on-rev example: 'globals.cgi' conversion

2009-04-18 Thread Paul Looney
Phil, Very impressive. PL On Apr 17, 2009, at 9:03 PM, Phil Davis wrote: A quick on-rev example: Just to get started, I converted my 'globals' CGI script to an on- rev web page: !DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN HTML HEAD LANG=en TITLE?rev put the

Re: on-rev example: 'globals.cgi' conversion

2009-04-18 Thread Mark Smith
I guess we'd expect it to be faster from within the US (data centre is in Texas, I believe), but the difference in cgi/irev seems similar. Ian - maybe your ISP has been hitting the cider :) best, Mark On 18 Apr 2009, at 21:10, Jim Ault wrote: Changed the last line of your script to

Re: on-rev example: 'globals.cgi' conversion

2009-04-18 Thread Richard Gaskin
François Chaplais wrote: I agree with Andre. To the average web user, what is displayed is pretty awful, and, even to a person with little rev experience such as me, the actual rev script is shorter and simpler to understand than to web output. This is not meant to be aggressive towards

Re: on-rev example: 'globals.cgi' conversion

2009-04-18 Thread Phil Davis
No offense taken, François. As others have said, visual appeal was not my purpose. I maintain several apps that 'reach out' to a specific server from time to time and either initiate an action on the server or get info from it. In both cases, all the app wants is an API to the server-side

Re: on-rev example: 'globals.cgi' conversion

2009-04-18 Thread Chipp Walters
No surprise there are such varied results. The server round trip times are probably dominated by the route intervals, as opposed to the script run times. IOW, the internet connection latency would be the decided factor for something like this. I suspect it will be most difficult to benchmark

Re: on-rev example: 'globals.cgi' conversion

2009-04-18 Thread J. Landman Gay
Phil Davis wrote: I was pretending to be an application. So I produced a web page only an application could love! ;o) Oh just confess. You're a bot, right? ;) -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com

on-rev example: 'globals.cgi' conversion

2009-04-17 Thread Phil Davis
A quick on-rev example: Just to get started, I converted my 'globals' CGI script to an on-rev web page: !DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN HTML HEAD LANG=en TITLE?rev put the short date the long time ?/TITLE /HEAD BODY pServer Globals/p div

Re: on-rev example: 'globals.cgi' conversion

2009-04-17 Thread Jim Ault
Very cool, Phil. And now it could be time for the benchmark wizard (Richard) to establish a standard for the routine posting of speed comparisons. By that I mean CGI running on other host configurations doing exactly the same tasks. The results could be posted or submitted execution