Re: What I would like to see [was: Re: Nice job on keeping the download site up-to-date.]

2010-02-06 Thread Matt Warnock
On Fri, 2010-02-05 at 18:21 -0700, Tim Ruppert wrote: What I'm looking for are actual examples and thought put in to _how_ I can help design and bring to fruition the type of snapshot website that you would be stoked about. As I said earlier, even examples of someone else doing it

Re: What I would like to see [was: Re: Nice job on keeping the download site up-to-date.]

2010-02-06 Thread Adrian Crum
--- On Sat, 2/6/10, Matt Warnock mwarn...@ridgecrestherbals.com wrote: What is OFBiz     ERP basics     Open Source/Apache License     Capabilities (as of now)     Who is using OFBiz, and how     Websites based on OFBiz (production use)     OFBiz demo sites     VAR products (OpenTaps,

Re: What I would like to see [was: Re: Nice job on keeping the download site up-to-date.]

2010-02-06 Thread Jacques Le Roux
From: David E Jones d...@me.com On Feb 5, 2010, at 3:24 PM, Jacques Le Roux wrote: One feeling I have though, PHBs are often pushing this way, note that I did not say that you are a PHB :p Actually, I agree with you about our lack of interest for end user. I think this is due to the nature

What I would like to see [was: Re: Nice job on keeping the download site up-to-date.]

2010-02-05 Thread Ruth Hoffman
Hi Tim: Since you asked: I'd like to have a download site where any user, especially a new user, could visit, feel comfortable about the project (and life in general), and then proceed about the business of downloading code. Easy, simple and painless. Yes, the nightly builds are a HUGE step

Re: What I would like to see [was: Re: Nice job on keeping the download site up-to-date.]

2010-02-05 Thread Tim Ruppert
Thanks for the feedback. I'm going to think on it this weekend and will try and come up with some ideas of how this could work better. If you could show me some sites that you do like, that would be a big help - then I can see how to get that working in our world. Cheers, Ruppert On Feb 5,

Re: What I would like to see [was: Re: Nice job on keeping the download site up-to-date.]

2010-02-05 Thread Ruth Hoffman
Hi Tim: It is so much easier to wing my salvos from over here! Regards, Ruth Tim Ruppert wrote: You're definitely right about that :) Cheers, Ruppert On Feb 5, 2010, at 12:13 PM, Ruth Hoffman wrote: Actually, I take that back. If I'm part of the committer's group, I won't be able to

Re: What I would like to see [was: Re: Nice job on keeping the download site up-to-date.]

2010-02-05 Thread Ruth Hoffman
Hi Tim: I'm a little surprised. I thought we went through this a while back (maybe a few months ago) and the answer was: the site is targeted at project committers. I left that discussion with the impression that was the last word. Are you saying that you might be open to discussing this

Re: What I would like to see [was: Re: Nice job on keeping the download site up-to-date.]

2010-02-05 Thread Jacques Le Roux
Ruth, I think it's because we have this opportunity while moving from Contegix to the ASF support: we will not use the same infrastrucure, ie new tools, scripts, locations, etc. But unfortunately (damned ISP I should say) as I said I'm currently not in a position too help much, Hans and Tim

Re: What I would like to see [was: Re: Nice job on keeping the download site up-to-date.]

2010-02-05 Thread Ruth Hoffman
Adrian Crum wrote: --- On Fri, 2/5/10, Ruth Hoffman rhoff...@aesolves.com wrote: I'd also like to have a seat on the project's oversight group. Apache OFBiz is based on meritocracy - there is no oversight group. We are all peers and volunteers.

Re: What I would like to see [was: Re: Nice job on keeping the download site up-to-date.]

2010-02-05 Thread David E Jones
Plenty of PMC members, committers, and contributors still manage to do just that... -David On Feb 5, 2010, at 1:31 PM, Tim Ruppert wrote: You're definitely right about that :) Cheers, Ruppert On Feb 5, 2010, at 12:13 PM, Ruth Hoffman wrote: Actually, I take that back. If I'm part

Re: What I would like to see [was: Re: Nice job on keeping the download site up-to-date.]

2010-02-05 Thread David E Jones
On Feb 5, 2010, at 1:13 PM, Ruth Hoffman wrote: I'd also like to have a seat on the project's oversight group. I don't understand how a project of this magnitude can continue to grow and prosper without business oriented people helping to guide it. The oversight group (whoever they happen

Re: What I would like to see [was: Re: Nice job on keeping the download site up-to-date.]

2010-02-05 Thread David E Jones
On Feb 5, 2010, at 3:03 PM, Adrian Crum wrote: --- On Fri, 2/5/10, Ruth Hoffman rhoff...@aesolves.com wrote: There is so much more to making software successful than anything clever foxes will ever have time to consider. You make it sound as though you have some special insight no one

Re: What I would like to see [was: Re: Nice job on keeping the download site up-to-date.]

2010-02-05 Thread David E Jones
On Feb 5, 2010, at 3:24 PM, Jacques Le Roux wrote: One feeling I have though, PHBs are often pushing this way, note that I did not say that you are a PHB :p Actually, I agree with you about our lack of interest for end user. I think this is due to the nature of OFBiz itself... I won't

Re: What I would like to see [was: Re: Nice job on keeping the download site up-to-date.]

2010-02-05 Thread Tim Ruppert
Yes they do ... :) Cheers, Ruppert On Feb 5, 2010, at 5:18 PM, David E Jones wrote: Plenty of PMC members, committers, and contributors still manage to do just that... -David On Feb 5, 2010, at 1:31 PM, Tim Ruppert wrote: You're definitely right about that :) Cheers, Ruppert

Re: What I would like to see [was: Re: Nice job on keeping the download site up-to-date.]

2010-02-05 Thread Tim Ruppert
Well - I think what we went thru was the difference between targeting the trunk and targeting the release branch - and we do still differ there in a big way - so that's not what I want to talk about. What I'm looking for are actual examples and thought put in to _how_ I can help design and

Re: What I would like to see [was: Re: Nice job on keeping the download site up-to-date.]

2010-02-05 Thread Matt Warnock
I've always thought the perl Mason site was pretty good. Simple, clean, easy to find stuff. A little intro on the front page, and well organized, easy to find links to the various areas. http://www.masonhq.com/ On Fri, 2010-02-05 at 18:21 -0700, Tim Ruppert wrote: Well - I think what we went