Re: keeping debuginfo in sync?

2020-06-11 Thread Tom Horsley
On Thu, 11 Jun 2020 13:57:46 -0600 Jerry James wrote: > Edit /etc/dnf/plugins/debuginfo-install.conf and set "autoupdate=1". > Then dnf will check for updates automatically. That looks like it. Thanks! ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject

keeping debuginfo in sync?

2020-06-11 Thread Tom Horsley
Is there a trivial way to insure debuginfo files I have installed stay in sync with the libraries when they get updated? I manually updated all my debuginfo packages, then found I also needed to update debugsource packages. ___ users mailing list -- user

Re: Interfaces

2020-06-09 Thread Tom Horsley
I don't know about GUIs in general, but I do know that only one icon means anything to anyone :-). They invented the envelope icon to mean mail, and everyone recognized it, so they set off the dynamite in the icon factory and exploded cryptic icons all over everything, and not one of them can be re

Re: NFS Mount Point Failed

2020-06-09 Thread Tom Horsley
On Tue, 9 Jun 2020 21:54:30 +1000 Stephen Morris wrote: > nfsvers=1 I seriously doubt there is any support for nfs 1 left in the code (could be wrong). Depending on random variations every time the nfs utilities get updates, I've had to sometimes specify "proto=udp" as well as or instead of the

Re: Hourly Error Message of Unknown Provenance

2020-06-08 Thread Tom Horsley
I keep asking for people to point me to the huge list of exploits that certainly must exist given all the horrors expressed about running as root. No one has ever been able to tell me where to find it. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.

Re: Systemd-boot for MS Surface GO?

2020-06-04 Thread Tom Horsley
> The following steps made it usable but I still need to fix kernel > updates or it will break again: I have no idea if the technique would work for UEFI, but on most of my systems for a long time now, I've always installed a stand alone small grub partition which is the main one the system boot

Re: Prevent locking screen

2020-05-31 Thread Tom Horsley
On Sun, 31 May 2020 12:49:32 -0700 stan via users wrote: > On my LXDE system, I went to preferences/screensaver. Whatever desktop > you are running should have something similar. In gnome it is the "power" settings in the control panel. ___ users maili

Re: Looking for a .so

2020-05-31 Thread Tom Horsley
On Sun, 31 May 2020 16:29:54 +0200 Andras Simon wrote: > I think that you need to install zlib-devel. Yep, all the symlinks and such you need to build things are always in the corresponding xxx-devel packages that go with the original xxx package (almost always, anyway). _

Re: Driver for Epson Photo Printer

2020-05-26 Thread Tom Horsley
If it is a network printer you could run a windows virtual machine and print from there (maybe USB pass-through would also work for a direct connection). I know I gave up long ago on a working scanner for linux and do all my scanning (fortunately not a lot of it) from my windows 10 virtual machine

Re: Copy DVD's -

2020-05-22 Thread Tom Horsley
On Fri, 22 May 2020 16:12:36 -0400 Bob Goodwin wrote: > I guess I wrote too much and confused the question. All /want is to > transfer the disks to the flash drive, they can then be run on a Windows > system. / If they aren't encrypted, then just copying will work (otherwise you'll probably nee

Re: Coy DVD's -

2020-05-22 Thread Tom Horsley
On Fri, 22 May 2020 15:40:42 -0400 Bob Goodwin wrote: > I have a set of instructional DVDs the I am asked to copy to thumb USB > drive.  Can it be done with Fedora 31, the computer with a DVD drive and > if possible what is the best program to use. If they are normal video DVDs, the dvdbackup p

Re: Terminal bleed through?

2020-05-14 Thread Tom Horsley
On Thu, 14 May 2020 12:45:29 -0700 stan via users wrote: > Have you tried a different terminal program? I'm pretty sure there is at least one terminal program I've seen that does this deliberately to show off how clever it is. (I stopped ever using it and forgot it existed, so I don't remember wh

Re: L1TF CPU bug present - What do I do now ?

2020-05-14 Thread Tom Horsley
On Thu, 14 May 2020 12:33:59 -0700 stan via users wrote: > These are meant to > be silos, but this attack would allow someone on one virtual machine to > capture data of another virtual machine running on the same core. Reminds me of the very early days of KVM virtualization where I discovered th

Re: is this a dnf bug?

2020-05-14 Thread Tom Horsley
On Thu, 14 May 2020 11:24:48 -0700 Samuel Sieb wrote: > You will only remove the new > packages and the old ones will stay around forever. That actually happens already. If I don't do an dnf update long enough and there are duplicate versions in the cache there will be old packages left over aft

Re: L1TF CPU bug present - What do I do now ?

2020-05-14 Thread Tom Horsley
On Thu, 14 May 2020 23:01:04 +0530 Sreyan Chakravarty wrote: > Meanwhile, I wanted to know if any one here has the same problem and > what they did for mitigations. I mitigate by ignoring it :-). (Seeing as how there I nothing I can do about it). ___ u

Re: is this a dnf bug?

2020-05-14 Thread Tom Horsley
On Thu, 14 May 2020 10:19:35 -0700 Samuel Sieb wrote: > Set the > keep cache option next time if you're only doing a partial update. That would then keep everything, including the ones I updated :-). Still doesn't seem reasonable for it to delete things not involved in the successful transactio

is this a dnf bug?

2020-05-14 Thread Tom Horsley
I download updates to the cache on cron at night. I wanted to apply some updates, but not have to reboot because I got a new kernel or something, so I did: dnf update 'libre*' That updated all the libreoffice packages. Then I look at the cache, and it deleted *everything*, not just the libreoff

Re: VideoConference Package?

2020-05-13 Thread Tom Horsley
On Wed, 13 May 2020 13:07:32 +0100 Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > BTW, Google say that Duo will support multi-user on desktops in the > near future. And probably 15 years ago now google said an official linux client for google drive would be available "soon" :-). ___

Re: network manager is killing me!

2020-05-09 Thread Tom Horsley
On Sat, 9 May 2020 11:11:57 -0700 Samuel Sieb wrote: > Or you'll start using nm-connection-editor. I tried it. It never tells you what it doesn't like. The sum total of all feedback it gives is to refuse to enable the "Apply" button. If the ifcfg files really are destined to stick around forever

Re: network manager is killing me!

2020-05-09 Thread Tom Horsley
On Sat, 9 May 2020 11:12:39 -0400 Mauricio Tavares wrote: > I > would not be surprised if that is dropped before the end of the > year... Yea, I figured installing fedora 32 would be a good time to completely switch to doing things "the right way" so I tried to set everything up with nmcli. Maybe

network manager is killing me!

2020-05-09 Thread Tom Horsley
Thought I had everything working. I had created a 2nd bridge for use with virtual machines I want to keep off my local lan (one of the VMs operating as a firewall with two ethernets). Then I rebooted after installing updates, and I couldn't talk to anything in the outside world. Aaugh! Finally di

Re: reading bluray data disk

2020-05-08 Thread Tom Horsley
On Fri, 8 May 2020 09:10:22 -0500 Steve Berg wrote: > Anyone have > any idea what could cause this? Linux shouldn't need any extra software to read a BD-R data disk, so the drive dying or the disk dying over time are the most likely issues. ___ users m

Re: /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-* not read after upgrade to F32

2020-05-06 Thread Tom Horsley
On Wed, 6 May 2020 16:13:50 -0700 Samuel Sieb wrote: > The install process doesn't create any network connections on the > installed system. But I was able to access the network :-). ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscrib

Re: /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-* not read after upgrade to F32

2020-05-06 Thread Tom Horsley
On Wed, 6 May 2020 15:34:09 -0700 Samuel Sieb wrote: > I have no network-scripts package, but everything still goes into > /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts. Weird. I thought there was nothing there, at least when I first ran the live image, but it does have files stored there now that I've got eve

Re: dual Ethernet adapters?

2020-05-06 Thread Tom Horsley
On Wed, 6 May 2020 15:45:39 -0700 ToddAndMargo via users wrote: > Would I have to bond at both the Lixux side and > the switching hub side? I assume so, I've never used it. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an e

Re: /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-* not read after upgrade to F32

2020-05-06 Thread Tom Horsley
On Wed, 06 May 2020 15:13:27 -0700 John M. Harris Jr wrote: > This solved it, thank you! If that solved it, you may not actually be using NetworkManager. I have no files at all in /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts after configuring my network with just NetworkManager (it must store the info somewher

Re: dual Ethernet adapters?

2020-05-06 Thread Tom Horsley
On Wed, 6 May 2020 15:02:08 -0700 ToddAndMargo via users wrote: > Not to ask too silly a question, but what happens when > you have dual Ethernet adapters and you hook both of > them to your (switching) hub? Mostly you need something that supports "bonding" to go faster. As near as I can tell, 99

Re: user crontab

2020-05-06 Thread Tom Horsley
On Wed, 6 May 2020 18:00:45 -0400 Robert Moskowitz wrote: > But where is it?  /var/spool/cron/user-name > Do I need something like postfix with a minimal installation to get the > output from my crontab? You need some kind of mail software, postfix might be overkill (but is certainly easier to

Re: /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-* not read after upgrade to F32

2020-05-06 Thread Tom Horsley
On Wed, 06 May 2020 14:46:35 -0700 John M. Harris Jr wrote: > Anyone know if this is just broken now, and what the workaround is if so? I'm > fine manually setting it on boot for now, but this is causing a lot of > issues.. > Probably don't have network-scripts installed. Ever since about fedo

Re: F32, mDNS, and nsswitch.conf

2020-05-05 Thread Tom Horsley
On Tue, 05 May 2020 19:48:22 -0400 Kevin Becker wrote: > It turns out > mdns4_minimal had been removed from host resolution in nsswitch.conf. > I restored the nsswitch.conf.bak on both machines and my printer is > back in business. Files like nsswitch.conf seem to be configured by the new authse

Re: NetworkManager stymies me again

2020-05-03 Thread Tom Horsley
On Sun, 3 May 2020 14:45:49 -0700 Samuel Sieb wrote: > I highly recommend using "nm-connection-editor". It's the official > connection editor for NetworkManager. It's quite nice and gives you > access to all the settings and connection types. But it gives absolutely zero feedback on why the h

Re: NetworkManager stymies me again

2020-05-03 Thread Tom Horsley
On Sun, 3 May 2020 13:27:02 -0400 Tom Horsley wrote: > But, I've defined a bridge with (seemingly) all the > same properties as the fedora 31 bridge I created > with network-scripts, yet my virtual machines using > bridge networking never get an IP address, as if the > rout

NetworkManager stymies me again

2020-05-03 Thread Tom Horsley
I was finally going to try to setup my network using nm in fedora 32. I figured after 10 years or so all the bits I use might finally work :-). But, I've defined a bridge with (seemingly) all the same properties as the fedora 31 bridge I created with network-scripts, yet my virtual machines using

fedora 32 install success

2020-05-02 Thread Tom Horsley
Finally got around to rsyncing my fedora 32 virtual machine image to a spare partition on my desktop and editing all the stuff pointing at the wrong UUID and such. Almost worked the first time, but it hung in the initial boot. Chrooting into the image and running dracut to update the initramfs fix

Re: Old Red Hat bugzilla pwd

2020-05-02 Thread Tom Horsley
On Sat, 2 May 2020 17:07:48 - (UTC) Beartooth wrote: > Is there a way I can > legitimate myself and have that password (or if need be, the whole old > account) deleted If you click on "Login" it should bring up a dialog with a "forgot password" checkbox you can use to reset the password to

Re: minor gnome annoyance

2020-05-02 Thread Tom Horsley
On Sat, 2 May 2020 11:50:16 -0400 Todd Zullinger wrote: > The added text hint is the new(-ish) part. It would be nice if that said type your password instead of type any key :-). ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe sen

Re: Fedora 32: python2-gobject and python2-gobject-base are missing

2020-05-01 Thread Tom Horsley
On Fri, 01 May 2020 22:54:38 +0100 Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > I've been running Calibre with Python 3 plugins for some time now. Of > course they may not be the plugins you use. When I get around to installing fedora 32 I'll probably check again to see if the plugins I need are ported yet. A ne

Re: Fedora 32: python2-gobject and python2-gobject-base are missing

2020-05-01 Thread Tom Horsley
On Fri, 1 May 2020 11:39:40 -0600 Jerry James wrote: > Talk to the "connection manager" maintainer and ask for a python 3 > version. You may want to stay on Fedora 31 until a solution is > available for Fedora 32. Yep. I have an old fedora virtual machine running the old calibre because every ca

minor gnome annoyance

2020-04-30 Thread Tom Horsley
They finally got rid of the "you have to scroll the screen all the way up from the bottom" to get out of the lock screen. Now it says click or hit any key. If you hit a key, it does get you out of the lock screen, but that key also winds up being passed to the password entry field as the first ch

Re: AAUGH! More "helpful" software!

2020-04-29 Thread Tom Horsley
On Tue, 28 Apr 2020 22:56:39 -0700 Samuel Sieb wrote: > > So, I suppose one has to actually read the dialog?  :-) :-) > > That's what I thought it did as well. I suppose it would be easy to get > in the habit of just clicking the button so that you might miss the > extra checkbox. Yep, neve

Re: AAUGH! More "helpful" software!

2020-04-28 Thread Tom Horsley
On Wed, 29 Apr 2020 06:59:41 +0800 Ed Greshko wrote: > Interesting.  This leaves me with some questions.  Like, what did you install > and how did you install it? I've just written this all up on my Game of Linux web site: https://tomhorsley.com/game/offline-update.html You have to install the

Re: AAUGH! More "helpful" software!

2020-04-28 Thread Tom Horsley
On Wed, 29 Apr 2020 06:59:41 +0800 Ed Greshko wrote: > So, how can I reproduce what caused your system to do something different? No idea, that's the same procedure I followed, but it took a while for me to get around to the first boot and gnome had yodelled at me about available updates before t

Re: AAUGH! More "helpful" software!

2020-04-28 Thread Tom Horsley
On Tue, 28 Apr 2020 11:57:01 -0400 Jonathan Billings wrote: > I think it's the packagekit-offline-update.service that actually > performs the update during shutdown (triggered by > system-update.target). I bet if you run: > 'systemctl mask packagekit-offline-update.service' > ... it will disable

Re: AAUGH! More "helpful" software!

2020-04-28 Thread Tom Horsley
On Tue, 28 Apr 2020 23:07:41 +0800 Ed Greshko wrote: > Failing that, google "gnome disable auto update"? This isn't gnome, it was well into the shutdown process when this nonsense suddenly popped up. Imagine how convenient it will be to be on your laptop when the plane starts boarding and you ar

AAUGH! More "helpful" software!

2020-04-28 Thread Tom Horsley
I try to shutdown my new fedora 32 virtual machine. It immediately says: "Installing updates, do not turn off" AAUGH! I don't want to install frigging updates (yet). How do I reinstall fedora and turn this crap off before I shutdown the next time?

Re: What is the new sync command?

2020-04-27 Thread Tom Horsley
On Mon, 27 Apr 2020 12:46:47 + J.Witvliet--- via users wrote: > That’s odd. > The data structures in memory should know if the dirty-flag is set or not. You'd think, but for many releases now (long ago it didn't happen) if I have a USB drive plugged in and not even mounted, doing a reboot pau

Re: What is the new sync command?

2020-04-27 Thread Tom Horsley
On Sun, 26 Apr 2020 19:46:15 -0500 Roger Heflin wrote: > just "sync" should work as it will sync the whole system, and > generally the other filesystems have little or no data in them so sync > fast. Unless you leave your external USB drive plugged in, in which case it takes 30 seconds to spin up

Re: What is the new sync command?

2020-04-26 Thread Tom Horsley
On Sun, 26 Apr 2020 16:50:57 -0700 ToddAndMargo via users wrote: > Is there a better command to see if the flush > is finished? The umount should hang till the writes are done. That's the way it always works for me. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists

Re: Motherboard recommendations

2020-04-24 Thread Tom Horsley
For what it is worth (probably not much), I just built a new system with a GIGABYTE Z390 AORUS Ultra, selected primarily because it had 3 M.2 slots on the motherboard, so I could replace all my rotating disks with much speedier M.2 sticks. ___ users maili

Re: dnf list color bad

2020-04-23 Thread Tom Horsley
On Thu, 23 Apr 2020 12:51:20 -0600 Joe Zeff wrote: > One of the first things I do on any installation is remove the "helpful" > alias making color ls the default. Not because I hate the colors but > because none of the documentation tells you which color means what. If only there were a helpfu

Re: dnf list color bad

2020-04-23 Thread Tom Horsley
On Thu, 23 Apr 2020 18:11:22 - (UTC) Beartooth wrote: > Today all of a sudden on all four machines on my desk, the list > that dnf gives me of what it proposes to do is an unreadable chartreuse > color. Could this be something I've done?? How do I fix it? Fortunately the dnf.conf man

Re: dnf list color bad

2020-04-23 Thread Tom Horsley
On Thu, 23 Apr 2020 18:11:22 - (UTC) Beartooth wrote: > Today all of a sudden on all four machines on my desk, the list > that dnf gives me of what it proposes to do is an unreadable chartreuse > color. Could this be something I've done?? How do I fix it? Apparently you have the same

Re: Fedora 32 today or next week?

2020-04-21 Thread Tom Horsley
On Tue, 21 Apr 2020 21:28:36 +0800 Ed Greshko wrote: > The following was sent to the announce list on Friday last. I looked at the fedora-announce list archives and there was only about one message a month or so old. But I just found the fedora-test-announce list archives :-). So now I know whe

Fedora 32 today or next week?

2020-04-21 Thread Tom Horsley
I haven't been able to find anything that looks like an official delay announcement, just a schedule listing with the obscure info about today being the preferred target and the 28th being the current target. I can't tell what that means :-). ___ users ma

Re: fc25 --> fc31

2020-04-15 Thread Tom Horsley
On Wed, 15 Apr 2020 16:52:31 -0700 Samuel Sieb wrote: > What do you mean by "non-trivial"? In my experience "non trivial" means that over time they alter the way stuff is stored and if you try to use old enough data on a new enough program, it barfs in magical and unrecognisable ways. ___

Re: nfs vs samba

2020-04-14 Thread Tom Horsley
On Tue, 14 Apr 2020 10:04:03 -0700 Samuel Sieb wrote: > Samba ... will be a lot harder to get configured correctly. I can vouch for that. Once the security freaks removed public shares, it took me something like three years to wait for google searches to catch up to new samba and finally tell me

Re: device names

2020-04-13 Thread Tom Horsley
On Tue, 14 Apr 2020 00:26:28 +0200 Tom H wrote: > The improvement's when you have a multiple NICs Right, but they should have special cased a single NIC system and just left the name eth0, would have avoided vast amounts of trouble for people with common desktops that only have a single NIC.

Re: device names

2020-04-12 Thread Tom Horsley
On Sun, 12 Apr 2020 13:33:50 -0700 Jack Craig wrote: > further reading of some RH portal docs, i decided my notion was an > unacceptable step backward in techs stream of forward progress. I consider the "improvement" a step backwards. Certainly for a desktop system with one and only one ethernet

Re: kf5

2020-04-12 Thread Tom Horsley
On Sun, 12 Apr 2020 17:24:28 - (UTC) Beartooth wrote: > Might I ought to bite the bullet, removing K3B and Konqueror? I just installed a system to test some things, and even though I did not (knowingly) include any KDE stuff, I got thousands of these packages (seemed like that many anyway :-)

Re: usb usb2-port8: Cannot enable. Maybe the USB cable is bad?

2020-04-11 Thread Tom Horsley
On Sat, 11 Apr 2020 17:12:55 -0700 Samuel Sieb wrote: > "lsusb -t" will show you what ports things are plugged into. The > backups might have been working but was it running at USB3 speeds or > just USB2? The cable might be perfectly fine for USB2, but it sounds > like the system thought it s

Re: usb usb2-port8: Cannot enable. Maybe the USB cable is bad?

2020-04-11 Thread Tom Horsley
On Sat, 11 Apr 2020 19:58:33 -0400 Fred Smith wrote: > computers and their hardware being fickle, it may well start up > again once you actually try using it for backup. :( Weirdly, the backups seem to have been working fine, so I'm very confused by what it might have been complaining about.

Re: usb usb2-port8: Cannot enable. Maybe the USB cable is bad?

2020-04-11 Thread Tom Horsley
On Sat, 11 Apr 2020 18:37:28 -0400 Tom Horsley wrote: > DMESG shows this cable bad message once every 5 seconds, which > is a bit annoying. OK, I pulled every USB device one at a time till dmesg stopped printing this error. The device that finally made it stop was a USB 3 backup drive. I p

usb usb2-port8: Cannot enable. Maybe the USB cable is bad?

2020-04-11 Thread Tom Horsley
What on earth is this message about? usb usb2-port8: Cannot enable. Maybe the USB cable is bad? earlier in dmesg it says: usb usb2: New USB device found, idVendor=1d6b, idProduct=0003, bcdDevice= 5.05 usb usb2: New USB device strings: Mfr=3, Product=2, SerialNumber=1 usb usb2: Product: xHCI Host

Re: device names

2020-04-10 Thread Tom Horsley
On Fri, 10 Apr 2020 11:53:11 -0700 Jack Craig wrote: > on F30, i would like to swap enp4s0 to eth0. You have to get the system to stop inventing "immutable" names first, which means adding net.ifnames=0 biosdevname=0 to the kernel boot parameters which means learning how to use grub2-editenv sinc

Re: Curious: Hang at open trying to rip dvd?

2020-04-10 Thread Tom Horsley
On Thu, 9 Apr 2020 15:46:55 -0400 Tom Horsley wrote: > I think I'll now give up completely trying to understand > what is going on :-). I lied :-). I tried one more experiment which led to this bugzilla: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1822948 When the drive in the US

Re: Curious: Hang at open trying to rip dvd?

2020-04-09 Thread Tom Horsley
One more piece of mysterious info for the record: VLC on Windows 10 can play a DVD just fine with the USB drive (the exact same one that hangs on two different linux systems I've now tried). VLC on linux hangs just like everything else. I think I'll now give up completely trying to understand wh

Re: Curious: Hang at open trying to rip dvd?

2020-04-09 Thread Tom Horsley
On Thu, 09 Apr 2020 17:29:46 +0200 Thomas Schmitt wrote: > If this was a slim drive in a fancy flat USB box i'd ask whether it gets > its electrical power via USB cable. > There have been cases that drives fell unconscious while speeding up > the disc because the computer did not deliver stable vo

Re: Curious: Hang at open trying to rip dvd?

2020-04-09 Thread Tom Horsley
On Thu, 9 Apr 2020 11:48:30 -0300 George N. White III wrote: > The bug may only appear for certain combinations of drive and USB > chipset. Check for firmware updates for the drive. Yep. I'm thinking it has something to do with the chipset. I believe I did read about some usb problem some chips

Re: Curious: Hang at open trying to rip dvd?

2020-04-09 Thread Tom Horsley
On Thu, 09 Apr 2020 15:33:38 +0200 Thomas Schmitt wrote: > If /tmp/xorriso.log is long (one or two dozen KB) then send it to > my mail address directly. I will then report what it tells me. > If it is short, please post it here. It sat here for about three minutes till I got bored: zooty> xorris

Re: Curious: Hang at open trying to rip dvd?

2020-04-09 Thread Tom Horsley
On Thu, 09 Apr 2020 09:29:01 +0200 Thomas Schmitt wrote: > That's not usual. I have a BH16NS40 in a USB box from DeLOCK. No problems > to open it with any medium. My current theory is that it has something to do with the phase II region protection (which is supposed to be hardware rather than sof

Curious: Hang at open trying to rip dvd?

2020-04-08 Thread Tom Horsley
Anyone else experienced this: I have a nice modern LG WH16NS40 Blu-ray rewriter, and a nice modern computer case with zero drive bays, so I got an OWC external drive case with sata -> usb3 to hold the drive. Everything I've tried works like a champ on this drive except trying to rip a DVD. It han

Re: remind

2020-04-07 Thread Tom Horsley
On Tue, 7 Apr 2020 17:29:15 -0400 David A. De Graaf wrote: > I just discovered, to my horror, they're not available in Fedora 31. > I'm going to have to contend with a lot of unhappy birthday celebrants. I never knew they ever appeared in the repos. I've been compiling remind from source for ever

Re: GRUB2 defaults to rescue after dnf update

2020-04-06 Thread Tom Horsley
On Sun, 5 Apr 2020 20:44:35 -0500 Richard Shaw wrote: > I recently updated one of my F31 machines and rebooted it remotely. I was > wondering why I couldn't get to it after a couple of minutes so I went out > and switch the input to the PC (It's the multimedia machine) to be greeted > by a rescue

Re: dhcp client sometimes fails?

2020-04-05 Thread Tom Horsley
On Sun, 5 Apr 2020 09:06:57 -0300 George N. White III wrote: > A bridge doesn't require an IP address. True, but that's the simplest way to setup networking so all the virtual machine will be in the same subnet with my PC and look like "real" machines to the rest of the network. > At my work, t

Re: dhcp client sometimes fails?

2020-04-05 Thread Tom Horsley
On Sun, 05 Apr 2020 15:41:18 +0930 Tim via users wrote: > What's your DHCP server? This PC, another one, your router, your ISP? A linux server at work, but it never had a problem till I added the bridge to the equation. ___ users mailing list -- users@

dhcp client sometimes fails?

2020-04-04 Thread Tom Horsley
I'm using network, not NetworkManager. I've got a bridge set up with my (one and only) ethernet point connected to it. I'm running fedora 31. Randomly, when I reboot the system to get a new kernel or something, dhcp will fail to assign an IP address to the bridge. I'll reboot again and it will be

Re: "dnf update" question, I think

2020-04-02 Thread Tom Horsley
On Thu, 2 Apr 2020 08:32:32 -0400 David wrote: > Should I do anything, or just wait for it to self-heal ? I always ignore it unless it is for a service I actively use, plus the kernel gets updated so often I usually need to reboot which will also reload everything. ___

Re: System becomes unusable when copying a large file via USB into HDD

2020-03-31 Thread Tom Horsley
On Wed, 1 Apr 2020 04:55:23 +0530 Sreyan Chakravarty wrote: > Marvelous. > > So now what do we do ? Well, the ubuntu bug had suggested sysctl settings, but I've mostly ignored it since I don't have to copy big files that often, so I don't know how well the ubuntu suggestions work. __

Re: System becomes unusable when copying a large file via USB into HDD

2020-03-31 Thread Tom Horsley
On Wed, 1 Apr 2020 04:39:13 +0530 Sreyan Chakravarty wrote: > Why does this happen ? I don't know why, but I've noticed it as well. It wasn't always this way, but a few fedora versions ago it changed. I always figured some kernel developer got a bee in his bonnet about some disk copying benchmark

Re: VideoConference Package?

2020-03-30 Thread Tom Horsley
On Mon, 30 Mar 2020 15:50:01 +0200 Andras Simon wrote: > FWIW I've been using Teams from chrome on Fedora 30 for like two weeks now > for classes (audio, video, chat and screen sharing), and, touch wood, it's > been very stable. I can easily believe the web interface is better than the app, I did

Re: VideoConference Package?

2020-03-30 Thread Tom Horsley
On Mon, 30 Mar 2020 08:56:23 -0400 John Mellor wrote: > In this extended period of Covid-19 isolation, is there a > videoconference package available? An even better question would be: Are the others in the conference likely to have compatible hardware and software? :-). We just used Microsoft

Re: segmentation fault

2020-03-29 Thread Tom Horsley
On Mon, 30 Mar 2020 00:08:55 +0200 Patrick Dupre wrote: > Does it mean that the issue is with ncurses-libs or readline? Unlikely, probably something you passed in to some library routine it didn't like. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraprojec

Re: New Laptop - Graphics Card choices - suggestions?

2020-03-26 Thread Tom Horsley
On Thu, 26 Mar 2020 10:14:20 -0600 S.Bob wrote: > Do these cards work well with Linux / Fedora? Only with the binary nvidia drivers from rpmfusion. I give the open source nouveau drivers a shot every time I get another fedora release, and so far my graphics have always frozen up within three da

Re: linux -- ide question

2020-03-24 Thread Tom Horsley
On Tue, 24 Mar 2020 18:45:29 -0400 bruce wrote: > for those who do linux dev/work, what's your goto IDE/editor? the combination of make and emacs. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.

Re: F31+dovecot issue

2020-03-24 Thread Tom Horsley
On Tue, 24 Mar 2020 17:05:34 - marco stocchi wrote: > Since Tom can run Dovecot, I suspect that I missed some configuration. Or > maybe it is necessary to enable the process to open lower ports like 587? I apparently am not using 587 though, so that might have something to do with it :-). (

Re: F31+dovecot issue

2020-03-24 Thread Tom Horsley
On Tue, 24 Mar 2020 11:54:13 - marco stocchi wrote: > Is anybody encountering the same problem? I'm running dovecot just fine on my f31 box. Maybe check what ports are currently open and see if something else is already running and bound to 587? ___

Re: System Cloning

2020-03-19 Thread Tom Horsley
On Fri, 20 Mar 2020 04:43:56 +1030 Tim via users wrote: > a. Do not install a bootloader, let me use something else (something > you've already got, that you're prepared to configure, yourself). It may allow me to not install grub at all (I forget), but then I have no way to boot that partition a

Re: System Cloning

2020-03-19 Thread Tom Horsley
On Thu, 19 Mar 2020 15:06:52 +0100 sixpack13 wrote: > 2 days ago I installed F32 on an two disk system keeping my /home and > the second disk. Reformating the rest. Try installing on a one disk system in a new partition without it destroying the existing grub and replacing it with one that boots

Re: System Cloning

2020-03-19 Thread Tom Horsley
On Thu, 19 Mar 2020 21:12:51 +1030 Tim via users wrote: > I want to ask the obvious question: Why is perserving with this > pallaver better than simply doing a fresh install on the other > computer? Because these days anaconda is adamantly opposed to let you install where you want to install wit

Re: I need directions/help on how to use curl with gmail smtp and OAuth2

2020-03-18 Thread Tom Horsley
On Wed, 18 Mar 2020 15:11:21 -0700 ToddAndMargo via users wrote: > So they have > something going on they don't want to talk about for > regular users. You'd think google would have the resources to support oauth2 in fetchmail. They want everyone to use it, but they make it incredibly difficult t

Re: System Cloning

2020-03-18 Thread Tom Horsley
On Wed, 18 Mar 2020 11:09:23 -0400 Robert McBroom via users wrote: > /etc/grub2.cfg That's usually a link to the "real" file, and some editors don't do well with links. Might want to check the actual file down under /boot somewhere (location varies for old dos versus uefi installs). I'm not even

Re: rescue mode needs rescuing!

2020-03-17 Thread Tom Horsley
On Tue, 17 Mar 2020 11:17:10 -0300 George N. White III wrote: > This can be hardware or a driver issue. Graphics is a prime suspect. > Live distros are useful for checking hardware compatibility. Freezing display is the symptom I always get with nvidia hardware and the nouveau drivers. The first

Re: GRUB2 removing args "quiet" "rhgb" - grubby doesn't work

2020-03-13 Thread Tom Horsley
On Sat, 14 Mar 2020 08:59:12 +1100 Philip Rhoades wrote: > Did that but I still don't get the verbose boot . . Sounds an awful lot like you're booting something different than you think you're booting. That's the only idea I have left. ___ users mailing

Re: GRUB2 removing args "quiet" "rhgb" - grubby doesn't work

2020-03-13 Thread Tom Horsley
On Sat, 14 Mar 2020 03:10:04 +1100 Philip Rhoades wrote: > In the olden days I used to just edit the grub conf file and delete > these args manually - now I am supposed to use grubby but doing this: You're on olden days 2. Now you need to use grub2-editenv to edit the kernelopts variable that ap

detect bluetooth mouse connecting?

2020-03-10 Thread Tom Horsley
I always need to run some ximput commands when my bluetooth mouse connects, I'm wondering if I can automagically detect the mouse connecting and run the commands so I never have to remember to do it manually. The only thing I've found so far that notices a new mouse connection is messages for the

Re: Clone fedora 31 on new computer

2020-03-09 Thread Tom Horsley
On Mon, 9 Mar 2020 15:47:28 -0400 Robert McBroom via users wrote: > How do I tweak the install to go where I want it? As near as I can tell, you don't. I have been installing fedora for several releases now by installing in a virtual machine, copying the virtual disk (guestmount and rsync) to a r

Re: network went boom, fix found

2020-03-06 Thread Tom Horsley
On Fri, 6 Mar 2020 22:47:31 +0800 Ed Greshko wrote: > I've never experienced a update enabling a service or socket. I checked my home system and see it is also enabled there (but not taking down my network), so I assume something in the mess of updates (I notice a lots of sssd updates came in) tr

network went boom, fix found

2020-03-06 Thread Tom Horsley
This morning I installed a lot of updates on my machine at work which is setup with "network", NOT NetworkManager. I rebooted, and had no network. DHCP not giving me an IP, ypbind not talking, etc. After much flailing around, I found the socket systemd-networkd.socket enabled (I have no idea if

Re: gnome bluetooth?

2020-02-27 Thread Tom Horsley
On Thu, 27 Feb 2020 09:59:27 -0800 Samuel Sieb wrote: > Does "journalctl -b -u bluetooth" give you anything interesting? As near as I can tell everything is working except the gnome app. But I could be missing some behind the scenes "user daemon" that only gets started in a full gnome session, I

Re: gnome bluetooth?

2020-02-27 Thread Tom Horsley
On Wed, 26 Feb 2020 22:45:24 -0800 Samuel Sieb wrote: > On 2/26/20 5:01 PM, Tom Horsley wrote: > > Is gnome bluetooth support really that useless, or am I > > missing some obscure deamon it needs to run? > > What does "systemctl status bluetooth" give

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