Re: How to undo dark metal theme?

2018-01-19 Thread Derik Devecchio
+1 Neil Smith’s remarks. I got zinged by this when I first tried dark themes. Entire sections of the interface became illegible when you only set the theme and not the look and feel. Once I got the theme set though… it helped a lot. Now I am pretty happy with my dar theme. I feel like it wo

Re: How to undo dark metal theme?

2018-01-19 Thread Brett Ryan
The g18 standard is at least a 4.5:1 ratio for accessibility. I’m pretty poor of sight so i use 19pt, but softer is better to avoid eye burn :) It’s funny, in netbeans I’ve been using the standard theme only because java looks great in drakula but some other langs need work. In intellij i’ve be

Re: How to undo dark metal theme?

2018-01-19 Thread cowwoc
On 2018-01-19 11:00 AM, David Cogen wrote: On 01/19/2018 10:44 AM, Thomas Wolf wrote: Highest contrast does not always translate to highest legibility.  When lettering is small (as it tends to be in many developers' editor), a white font on a black background leads to lesser legibility due to

Re: How to undo dark metal theme?

2018-01-19 Thread cowwoc
On 2018-01-19 10:55 AM, Neil C Smith wrote: On Fri, 19 Jan 2018 at 14:07 David Cogen > wrote: "Lack of contrast"? Let's start with the editor window: light gray text on dark gray background?  Also, don't forget that editor themes and the look-and-feel (Da

Re: How to undo dark metal theme?

2018-01-19 Thread David Cogen
On 01/19/2018 10:44 AM, Thomas Wolf wrote: Highest contrast does not always translate to highest legibility.  When lettering is small (as it tends to be in many developers' editor), a white font on a black background leads to lesser legibility due to overpowering background color.  Out of curio

Re: How to undo dark metal theme?

2018-01-19 Thread Neil C Smith
On Fri, 19 Jan 2018 at 14:07 David Cogen wrote: > "Lack of contrast"? Let's start with the editor window: light gray text on > dark > gray background? > Also, don't forget that editor themes and the look-and-feel (Dark Metal) are related but not the same thing. In terms of editor themes (fonts

Re: How to undo dark metal theme?

2018-01-19 Thread Thomas Wolf
On Fri, Jan 19, 2018 at 9:06 AM, David Cogen wrote: > > "Lack of contrast"? Let's start with the editor window: light gray text on > dark gray background? That's low contrast, and very hard to read. My > feeling is, at least one of foreground color or background color should > almost always be fu

Re: How to undo dark metal theme?

2018-01-19 Thread David Cogen
On 01/18/2018 03:58 PM, Thomas Wolf wrote: Not sure what lack of contrast you’re talking about with Darcula. To my eyes everything that is of interest or always in my face has good contrast - to the extent possible and still distinguish between different types of text (keywords, comments, etc

Re: How to undo dark metal theme?

2018-01-18 Thread Thomas Wolf
Not sure what lack of contrast you’re talking about with Darcula. To my eyes everything that is of interest or always in my face has good contrast - to the extent possible and still distinguish between different types of text (keywords, comments, etc.). Tab labels, output text, and tree node l

Re: How to undo dark metal theme?

2018-01-18 Thread David Cogen
On 01/18/2018 02:22 PM, Neil C Smith wrote: On Thu, 18 Jan 2018 at 19:18 David Cogen > wrote: I tried that too. Not a fan of that one either. Why do so many themes (everywhere, not only netbeans) minimize contrast)? One of the colors - either the foregroun

Re: How to undo dark metal theme?

2018-01-18 Thread Neil C Smith
On Thu, 18 Jan 2018 at 19:18 David Cogen wrote: > I tried that too. Not a fan of that one either. Why do so many themes > (everywhere, not only netbeans) minimize contrast)? > One of the colors - either the foreground or the background - should almost > always be pure white or pure black. These t

Re: How to undo dark metal theme?

2018-01-18 Thread David Cogen
On 01/18/2018 02:01 PM, Thomas Wolf wrote: This won’t help your current issue, but if you want a good dark theme, try Darcula - highly recommended (and not gratuitous in its use of color :-). To perfect everything, use Monaco for the font the editor uses :-) I tried that too. Not a fan of tha

Re: How to undo dark metal theme?

2018-01-18 Thread David Cogen
On 01/18/2018 02:02 PM, Dawn Raison wrote: Yes, that's a classic NB gotcha... You need to go to plugins/installed and tick the 'show details' box. Then you can see all your plugins, and uninstall it. That's weird, Very unintuitive. What is the reason for this (Not seeing all the installed

Re: How to undo dark metal theme?

2018-01-18 Thread Dawn Raison
Yes, that's a classic NB gotcha... You need to go to plugins/installed and tick the 'show details' box. Then you can see all your plugins, and uninstall it. On the orig. topic, have you tried the 'norway today' theme? Dawn On 18/01/2018 18:49, David Cogen wrote: On 01/18/2018 01:25 PM, Davi

Re: How to undo dark metal theme?

2018-01-18 Thread Thomas Wolf
This won’t help your current issue, but if you want a good dark theme, try Darcula - highly recommended (and not gratuitous in its use of color :-). To perfect everything, use Monaco for the font the editor uses :-) tom > On Jan 18, 2018, at 1:49 PM, David Cogen wrote: > >> On 01/18/2018 01:

Re: How to undo dark metal theme?

2018-01-18 Thread David Cogen
On 01/18/2018 01:25 PM, David Cogen wrote: On 01/18/2018 01:07 PM, David Cogen wrote: Today I tried the dark metal theme. I hated it! (Extravagent and gratuitious use of unnecessary color.) So I tried to revert. I switched back to metal theme and restarted. I should also say that I instal

Re: How to undo dark metal theme?

2018-01-18 Thread David Cogen
On 01/18/2018 01:07 PM, David Cogen wrote: Today I tried the dark metal theme. I hated it! (Extravagent and gratuitious use of unnecessary color.) So I tried to revert. I switched back to metal theme and restarted. Mostly good, but my editor windows are still showing up with the dark theme

Re: How to undo dark metal theme?

2018-01-18 Thread Neil C Smith
On Thu, 18 Jan 2018 at 18:23 David Cogen wrote: > Today I tried the dark metal theme. I hated it! (Extravegant and > gratuitous > use of unnecessary color.) (Sorry) > Yep, yuck! Try Darcula. ;-) > So I tried to revert. I switched back to metal theme and restarted. > > Mostly good, but my

How to undo dark metal theme?

2018-01-18 Thread David Cogen
Today I tried the dark metal theme. I hated it! (Extravegant and gratuitous use of unnecessary color.) (Sorry) So I tried to revert. I switched back to metal theme and restarted. Mostly good, but my editor windows are still showing up with the dark theme :( I might try clearing the cache w