Re: Releasing a Netbeans platform application to the general public

2019-09-17 Thread Jerome Lelasseux
Thank you I'll try this week with InnoSetup. > I'd be very interested to hear more about the underlying architecture > in use - I write / maintain a variety of audio and media Java > libraries as well.I will open source all the infrastructure code. Note that > it is a 100% Midi based

Re: Releasing a Netbeans platform application to the general public

2019-09-17 Thread Neil C Smith
On Sun, 15 Sep 2019 at 22:06, Jerome Lelasseux wrote: > 1/ bundle a JRE and it must be OpenJDK > or > 2/ have the installer check if a JRE is there, and if not, ask user to > install a JRE on its own (then he can choose Oracle or whatever). I assume > that after JRE installation my Netbeans app

Re: Releasing a Netbeans platform application to the general public

2019-09-17 Thread Andreas Hauffe
Am 17.09.19 um 12:24 schrieb Emilian Bold: Java is no longer expected to be available but has to come bundled with the native installer. In this case wouldn't there be a need for a netbeans GUI based option to bundle a JDK/JRE for each OS installer by default without manual modifying the

Re: Releasing a Netbeans platform application to the general public

2019-09-17 Thread Emilian Bold
The FSF explanation is clear as mud... Policing where your users are from and what the up to date embargo list is is extra work so why not pick an OpenJDK distro that does not make you do that? --emi mar., 17 sept. 2019, 13:19 Neil C Smith a scris: > On Tue, 17 Sep 2019 at 06:23, Emilian Bold

Re: Releasing a Netbeans platform application to the general public

2019-09-17 Thread Neil C Smith
On Tue, 17 Sep 2019 at 06:23, Emilian Bold wrote: > > Note that Azul Zulu has some specific terms of use which are not good if you > allow random people to download it: > > > You also represent and warrant that you do not intend to distribute the > > software in a manner that is not compliant

Re : Re: Releasing a Netbeans platform application to the general public

2019-09-17 Thread Jerome Lelasseux
I agree... I think it was working like you said when I started my project many (many) years ago, but since then context has changed a lot, Windows does not embed anymore java by default, etc Envoyé depuis Yahoo Mail pour iPhone Le mardi, septembre 17, 2019, 12:05 PM, Judi Rastall a écrit  :

Re: Releasing a Netbeans platform application to the general public

2019-09-17 Thread Judi Rastall
I have been following this thread with interest as I am building a project for distribution into the hobby market. I am a hobbyist and I am having to learn Java along the way but that's another story. I thought the whole point of Java is that it is cross-platform and that each user would

Re: Releasing a Netbeans platform application to the general public

2019-09-16 Thread Emilian Bold
Java class library ... > > en.wikipedia.org > > > > > > > -- > > *From:* Jerome Lelasseux > *Sent:* Sunday, September 15, 2019 16:06 > *To:* Jerome Lelasseux ; Emilio G. C. < > rarei...@outlook.com> > *Cc:* users@

Re: Releasing a Netbeans platform application to the general public

2019-09-15 Thread Jerome Lelasseux
r. Emilio From: Jerome Lelasseux Sent: Sunday, September 15, 2019 14:36 To: Emilian Bold Cc: NetBeans Mailing Subject: Re: Releasing a Netbeans platform application to the general public I see. I thought most Windows users had a JRE installed... Bundling a JRE adds 40MB to my 18MB package, i

Re: Releasing a Netbeans platform application to the general public

2019-09-15 Thread Emilio G . C .
Sent: Sunday, September 15, 2019 14:36 To: Emilian Bold Cc: NetBeans Mailing Subject: Re: Releasing a Netbeans platform application to the general public I see. I thought most Windows users had a JRE installed... Bundling a JRE adds 40MB to my 18MB package, it's a pity... Is there a way to do

Re: Releasing a Netbeans platform application to the general public

2019-09-15 Thread Neil C Smith
On Sun, 15 Sep 2019, 20:36 Jerome Lelasseux, wrote: > I see. I thought most Windows users had a JRE installed... > I wouldn't rely on that going forward ... > > Bundling a JRE adds 40MB to my 18MB package, it's a pity... Is there a way > to do it simply directly from Netbeans ? > Are you

Re: Releasing a Netbeans platform application to the general public

2019-09-15 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
Well, you could have installation instructions initially explaining how and where to get the JRE from and where to reference it in the conf file of the app for your initial release. Gj On Sun, 15 Sep 2019 at 12:36, Jerome Lelasseux wrote: > I see. I thought most Windows users had a JRE

Re: Releasing a Netbeans platform application to the general public

2019-09-15 Thread Jerome Lelasseux
I see. I thought most Windows users had a JRE installed... Bundling a JRE adds 40MB to my 18MB package, it's a pity... Is there a way to do it simply directly from Netbeans ? I'll need 2 different packages for 32/64bits ? Same for the signing process, no idea from where to start, I'll Google

Re: Releasing a Netbeans platform application to the general public

2019-09-15 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
Congrats with this app, eager to see at least screenshots. Indeed, bundling a JRE would make sense. Gj On Sun, 15 Sep 2019 at 12:27, Jerome Lelasseux wrote: > I mentionned Java7 as a minimum version, actually the application works > fine with JDK12 too. > > > Le dimanche 15 septembre 2019 à

Re: Releasing a Netbeans platform application to the general public

2019-09-15 Thread Jerome Lelasseux
I mentionned Java7 as a minimum version, actually the application works fine with JDK12 too. Le dimanche 15 septembre 2019 à 17:41:33 UTC+2, Thomas Wolf a écrit : I can’t speak for general users, but in enterprises you can’t assume Java - much less an ancient one like 7.   I don’t

Re: Releasing a Netbeans platform application to the general public

2019-09-15 Thread Emilian Bold
Especially for non technical users you can assume they will have no Java so you must include a JRE. I recommend AdoptOpenJDK 11. Signed installers would be nice if you don't want Windows to scare away your users. --emi dum., 15 sept. 2019, 18:22 Jerome Lelasseux a scris: > Hello, > > I

Re: Releasing a Netbeans platform application to the general public

2019-09-15 Thread Thomas Wolf
I can’t speak for general users, but in enterprises you can’t assume Java - much less an ancient one like 7. I don’t even think that’s available for download anymore, is it? If that’s all you’ve tested with, i think you’d have to include it with your installation. Just my opinion, of