sa-updates

2011-03-10 Thread Nigel Frankcom
Hi All, Apologies if this has been covered, an admittedly fairly cursory Google showed nothing new. My local sa-update hasn't updated in the better part of a month. Is it that there have been no updates or do I need to dig into my systems to see what I broke, how and when? Regards to all Nigel

Re: sa-updates

2011-03-10 Thread Tom Kinghorn
On 3/10/2011 1:41 PM, Nigel Frankcom wrote: Is it that there have been no updates or do I need to dig into my systems to see what I broke, how and when? Regards to all Nigel Why fix whats not broken :o) regards Tom

Re: Trying to help friend NOT get caught by spamassassin

2011-03-10 Thread Martin Gregorie
On Wed, 2011-03-09 at 18:50 -0500, Robert Moskowitz wrote: Open Office might be worth it for him. It is what I use most of the time In that case one of you should suck a plain text newsletter body into oowriter, make it look tidy, save it as HTML and then run it through a validatoy, such

Re: sa-updates

2011-03-10 Thread Warren Togami Jr.
On 3/10/2011 1:41 AM, Nigel Frankcom wrote: Hi All, Apologies if this has been covered, an admittedly fairly cursory Google showed nothing new. My local sa-update hasn't updated in the better part of a month. Is it that there have been no updates or do I need to dig into my systems to see what

Re: sa-updates

2011-03-10 Thread Jason Bertoch
On 2011/03/10 6:41 AM, Nigel Frankcom wrote: Hi All, Apologies if this has been covered, an admittedly fairly cursory Google showed nothing new. My local sa-update hasn't updated in the better part of a month. Is it that there have been no updates or do I need to dig into my systems to see what

Re: Trying to help friend NOT get caught by spamassassin

2011-03-10 Thread John Hardin
On Thu, 10 Mar 2011, Martin Gregorie wrote: On Wed, 2011-03-09 at 18:50 -0500, Robert Moskowitz wrote: Open Office might be worth it for him. It is what I use most of the time In that case one of you should suck a plain text newsletter body into oowriter, make it look tidy, save it as

Re: Trying to help friend NOT get caught by spamassassin

2011-03-10 Thread Michael Scheidell
On 3/9/11 6:50 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: On 03/09/2011 06:33 PM, Martin Gregorie wrote: On Wed, 2011-03-09 at 17:33 -0500, Robert Moskowitz wrote: It is almost better to build the html and have OE send it than to let OE do its own HTML building. I couldn't agree more - provided he uses

still to the problem of missing headers

2011-03-10 Thread Margrit Lottmann
...it is a very serious problem... Test , from 11 to 13 today... I've configured our central system filter (before transfering mail to receipients) ...logging X-Sam-Score/X-SPAM-Report if Score 5 there were 160 mails with only such MISSING_HEADERS ...but all of them were

Re: still to the problem of missing headers

2011-03-10 Thread Michael Scheidell
On 3/10/11 9:34 AM, Margrit Lottmann wrote: ...it is a very serious problem... Test , from 11 to 13 today... you have been told more than once. this is not a spamassassin problem. this is a problem with how you are calling spamassassin from your MTA. Why do you ignore the experts? Best way

Re: still to the problem of missing headers

2011-03-10 Thread Mark Martinec
Margrit, ...it is a very serious problem... Test , from 11 to 13 today... I've configured our central system filter (before transfering mail to receipients) ...logging X-Sam-Score/X-SPAM-Report if Score 5 there were 160 mails with only such MISSING_HEADERS ...but all of

Re: sa-updates

2011-03-10 Thread Adam Moffett
Discussion on the dev list points to a lack of sufficient ham in the corpus which is necessary to generate score updates and publish new rules. There was a recent drive for new submitters, but I'm still trying to figure out how I can rearrange my configuration in order to help.

Re: sa-updates

2011-03-10 Thread John Hardin
On Thu, 10 Mar 2011, Adam Moffett wrote: Discussion on the dev list points to a lack of sufficient ham in the corpus which is necessary to generate score updates and publish new rules. There was a recent drive for new submitters, but I'm still trying to figure out how I can rearrange my

Re: sa-updates

2011-03-10 Thread Jason Bertoch
On 2011/03/10 10:59 AM, Adam Moffett wrote: Discussion on the dev list points to a lack of sufficient ham in the corpus which is necessary to generate score updates and publish new rules. There was a recent drive for new submitters, but I'm still trying to figure out how I can rearrange my

Re: sa-updates

2011-03-10 Thread Darxus
On 03/10, Jason Bertoch wrote: Discussion on the dev list points to a lack of sufficient ham in the corpus which is necessary to generate score updates and publish new rules. There was a recent drive for new submitters, but I'm still trying to figure out how I can rearrange my configuration

Re: sa-updates

2011-03-10 Thread Adam Katz
On 03/10/2011 07:59 AM, Adam Moffett wrote: I'd be happy to contribute, but we bounce or outright delete high scoring spam. After Reading these wiki articles: http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/HandClassifiedCorpora http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/CorpusCleaning I get the impression

Re: sa-updates

2011-03-10 Thread Jason Bertoch
On 2011/03/10 2:17 PM, Adam Katz wrote: On 03/10/2011 07:59 AM, Adam Moffett wrote: I'd be happy to contribute, but we bounce or outright delete high scoring spam. After Reading these wiki articles: http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/HandClassifiedCorpora

Re: sa-updates

2011-03-10 Thread Darxus
On 03/10, Jason Bertoch wrote: Wouldn't spam already scored at 15+ be considered a little redundant to the corpus? If not, I'm certain I could modify my config to keep a copy for processing in the mass checks. No. If all spams scored 15+ hit similar tests, and none of those spams are

Re: sa-updates

2011-03-10 Thread John Hardin
On Thu, 10 Mar 2011, dar...@chaosreigns.com wrote: Actually I believe the problem is currently insufficient spam: HAM: 188008 (15 required) SPAM: 51330 (15 required) Insufficient spam corpus to generate scores; aborting. -

Re: sa-updates

2011-03-10 Thread Darxus
On 03/10, John Hardin wrote: On Thu, 10 Mar 2011, dar...@chaosreigns.com wrote: On 03/10, John Hardin wrote: Spam is easy to get, diverse ham much less so. That's funny, since the sa-updates are currently not happening due to a lack of spam. Odd. Those stats aren't reflected on the

SpamAssassin as pre-queue filter with Postfix and spampd - handling large emails

2011-03-10 Thread Darxus
I've been using spamassassin as a pre-queue filter with postfix for a while. This has the advantage of rejecting everything spamassassin thinks is spam during the smtp transaction, so you have no spam folder to check for false positives, and you don't cause any backscatter, since the sending

Re: sa-updates

2011-03-10 Thread Adam Katz
On 03/10/2011 11:49 AM, Jason Bertoch wrote: On 2011/03/10 2:17 PM, Adam Katz wrote: I figure spam capped at 15+ points would be fine, but you'll need developer consensus on that. Wouldn't spam already scored at 15+ be considered a little redundant to the corpus? If not, I'm certain I

Re: sa-updates

2011-03-10 Thread RW
On Thu, 10 Mar 2011 15:01:34 -0500 dar...@chaosreigns.com wrote: On 03/10, Jason Bertoch wrote: Wouldn't spam already scored at 15+ be considered a little redundant to the corpus? If not, I'm certain I could modify my config to keep a copy for processing in the mass checks. No. If all