RE: Why the new changes need to be "depricated" forever

2020-07-22 Thread Marc Roos
> I hear that the old RMA resistor color code is under attack as it is exceptionally discriminatory. > As you may or may not know black is the lowest value 0, brown is only 1, Red is 2. This :D

RE: Why the new changes need to be "depricated" forever

2020-07-22 Thread Marc Roos
> There’s only like 4 of you, you can do this with a cc: list. 4? If you don't get your facts straight, there is little to no value to other things you write.

RE: Why the new changes need to be "depricated" forever

2020-07-22 Thread Marc Roos
>> Oh my god, you snowflakes, please just get over yourselves. The term "snowflake generation" was one of Collins English Dictionary's 2016 words of the year. Collins defines the term as "the young adults of the 2010s, viewed as being less resilient and more prone to taking offence than previ

RE: Why the new changes need to be "depricated" forever

2020-07-22 Thread Marc Roos
> I really don't get why anyone would be offended by blacklistd and whitelist > given neither have any sort of connection to race or skin color. That is because you have a proper logically functioning brain. Which makes you even part of a minority group. Hence you can look forward to people

Re: Why the new changes need to be "depricated" forever

2020-07-22 Thread Noel Butler
RESENT - list didnt obviously like my original so here is a slightly more sanatised version On 22/07/2020 12:48, Charles Sprickman wrote: > Oh my god, you snowflakes, please just get over yourselves. > > You are a loud, pedantic, solipsistic minority that is just unwilling to > either a) accep

Re: Why the new changes need to be "depricated" forever

2020-07-22 Thread Charles Sprickman
> On Jul 22, 2020, at 3:28 AM, Marc Roos wrote: > > >>> Oh my god, you snowflakes, please just get over yourselves. > > The term "snowflake generation" was one of Collins English Dictionary's > 2016 words of the year. Collins defines the term as "the young adults of > the 2010s, viewed as

Re: Why the new changes need to be "depricated" forever

2020-07-22 Thread jdow
On 20200722 00:28:22, Marc Roos wrote: Oh my god, you snowflakes, please just get over yourselves. The term "snowflake generation" was one of Collins English Dictionary's 2016 words of the year. Collins defines the term as "the young adults of the 2010s, viewed as bein

RE: Why the new changes need to be "depricated" forever

2020-07-22 Thread Marc Roos
> I’m going to follow that other dude’s lead and start donating to > Portland bail funds in your names each time you post. :) Do know that is identity theft and a crime. Please post proof of your action on this list.

Re: Why the new changes need to be "depricated" forever

2020-07-22 Thread M. Omer GOLGELI
July 22, 2020 11:16 AM, "Charles Sprickman" wrote: > > you’d like the > whole world to adjust to your narrow views (which all center around your > experiences of the world, > which of course are the only valid ones, right?). So yes, you’re a bunch of > snowflakes. >  This is a perfect explanat

Re: Why the new changes need to be "depricated" forever

2020-07-22 Thread M. Omer GOLGELI
July 22, 2020 11:46 AM, "M. Omer GOLGELI" wrote: > Like Laura questioned, Oops! /Laura/Loren/ my bad... -- M. Omer GOLGELI

Re: Why the new changes need to be "depricated" forever

2020-07-22 Thread Martin Gregorie
On Tue, 2020-07-21 at 18:25 -0700, Loren Wilton wrote: > I do strongly wonder whether this is "society" or only "people in the > USA". It should be noted that historically bkacks were enslaved just > as little or much as any other race in other countries, and I don't > see those contries bending ov

Re: Why the new changes need to be "depricated" forever

2020-07-22 Thread Mauricio Tavares
On Wed, Jul 22, 2020 at 4:25 AM jdow wrote: > > On 20200722 00:28:22, Marc Roos wrote: > > > >>> Oh my god, you snowflakes, please just get over yourselves. > > > > The term "snowflake generation" was one of Collins English Dictionary's > >

URL Scanning in html attachments

2020-07-22 Thread Paul Fowler
Hi All, I have a general question regarding URL scanning in attachments. I have some spam that is getting through spamassassin dns blocklist filters which also have a known malicious URL embedded in a html attachment. When I debugged the issue I found that the default rulesets and plugins do not

Re: URL Scanning in html attachments

2020-07-22 Thread Riccardo Alfieri
On 22/07/20 15:46, Paul Fowler wrote: Hi All, I have a general question regarding URL scanning in attachments. I don't think SpamAssassin has a way to do that out of the box, but it's something that could be done inside a dedicated plugin. It would help also to get URLs from PDF attachments

Re: Thanks to Guardian Digital & LinuxSecurity for the nice post about SpamAssassin's upcoming change

2020-07-22 Thread RW
On Tue, 21 Jul 2020 20:25:58 +1000 Noel Butler wrote: > On 21/07/2020 01:05, Marc Roos wrote: > > >> I'm a bit suspicious about some of the speedup figures quoted, and > >> > > whether rspamd was tested > > > >> against an optimized and similarly parameterized SA. It's very > >> easy to >

Re: Thanks to Guardian Digital & LinuxSecurity for the nice post about SpamAssassin's upcoming change

2020-07-22 Thread Riccardo Alfieri
On 22/07/20 16:00, RW wrote: I'd missed that it was your testing. So when testing speed did you measure throughput with enough concurrent tests and spamd child processes to keep all the CPU cores fully occupied? I have two VMs with same HW (2vCPU, 4GB RAM), one SA 3.4.4 and one Rspamd 2.6, b

Re: Why the new changes need to be "depricated" forever

2020-07-22 Thread shanew
On Tue, 21 Jul 2020, Loren Wilton wrote: You note that "gay" has a different meaning today. As far as I know, the words "black" and "white" were not systematically used to refer to skin colors before about 1963, when a movement was set afoot in the USA to replace "negro" with "black" and "cauc

BIMI pilot at Google

2020-07-22 Thread Kevin A. McGrail
There's been some sporadic discussion from BIMI for a few years.  Just caught this article: https://venturebeat.com/2020/07/21/google-launches-bimi-pilot-to-bring-verified-brand-logos-to-gmail/ Regards, KAM -- Kevin A. McGrail kmcgr...@apache.org Member, Apache Software Foundation Chair Emerit

Re: Thanks to Guardian Digital & LinuxSecurity for the nice post about SpamAssassin's upcoming change

2020-07-22 Thread RW
On Wed, 22 Jul 2020 14:11:31 + Riccardo Alfieri wrote: > On 22/07/20 16:00, RW wrote: > > > > > I'd missed that it was your testing. So when testing speed did you > > measure throughput with enough concurrent tests and spamd child > > processes to keep all the CPU cores fully occupied? > R

Re: Why the new changes need to be "depricated" forever

2020-07-22 Thread John Hardin
On Wed, 22 Jul 2020, Charles Sprickman wrote: Rather than tolerate the tiniest of changes you throw a tantrum. This is not a tiny change. I had hoped it would be, which is why I supported it in the initial PMC vote, but it's becoming clear to me I was overly optimistic. -- John Hardin KA

RE: Why the new changes need to be "depricated" forever

2020-07-22 Thread Marc Roos
> This is not a tiny change. I had hoped it would be, which is why I supported it > in the initial PMC vote, but it's becoming clear to me I was overly optimistic. Wait until you have to vote on the use of the word welcomelist. Preferring English to other languages could be seen as discrimi

RE: Why the new changes need to be "depricated" forever

2020-07-22 Thread Rick Cooper
Kevin A. McGrail wrote: > On 7/21/2020 9:25 PM, Loren Wilton wrote: >> I do strongly wonder whether this is "society" or only "people in the >> USA". > One data point disproves that.  The SA project made the choice months > ago inspired by a decision in the United Kingdom: > https://www.zdnet.com/a

Re: Why the new changes need to be "depricated" forever

2020-07-22 Thread Ralph Seichter
* Charles Sprickman: > Rather than tolerate the tiniest of changes you throw a tantrum. "Tiny changes", as in small stones getting kicked down a slope, causing an avalanche. Attempts to restrict vocabulary should be a very familiar and worrying concept to anyone who read Orwell. Speaking out agai

Re: Thanks to Guardian Digital & LinuxSecurity for the nice post about SpamAssassin's upcoming change

2020-07-22 Thread Olivier
I am wondering what grey list should be renamed... --

Re: Thanks to Guardian Digital & LinuxSecurity for the nice post about SpamAssassin's upcoming change

2020-07-22 Thread Eric Broch
Something benign like "we're-bending-over-backwards-to-invent-offenses-that-we-can-remedy-a-shade-halfway-between-welcomelist-and-blocklist" On 7/22/2020 8:36 PM, Olivier wrote: I am wondering what grey list should be renamed...

Re: Why the new changes need to be "depricated" forever

2020-07-22 Thread jdow
On 20200722 15:17:03, Ralph Seichter wrote: * Charles Sprickman: Rather than tolerate the tiniest of changes you throw a tantrum. "Tiny changes", as in small stones getting kicked down a slope, causing an avalanche. Attempts to restrict vocabulary should be a very familiar an

Re: Thanks to Guardian Digital & LinuxSecurity for the nice post about SpamAssassin's upcoming change

2020-07-22 Thread Gary Smith
Maybelist? Neutrallist? Pcbalancedlist? Sent via the Samsung Galaxy, powered by Cricket Wireless Original message From: Olivier Date: 7/22/20 7:38 PM (GMT-08:00) To: users@spamassassin.apache.org Subject: Re: Thanks to Guardian Digital & LinuxSecurity for the nice post abo

Re: Why the new changes need to be "depricated" forever

2020-07-22 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
Has it occurred to ANYONE arguing over this that the source code of SpamAssassin is Open Source so if you do not like the politically correct change that was made to appease the Snowflakes, that it is not that difficult to write a patch that will switch the distribution back to the old wording?

Re: BIMI pilot at Google

2020-07-22 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
Well Kevin I think that article is one of the biggest lying sacks of dog dung I have ever read. The ONLY reason they are doing this is pure greed. The email scanning services charge extra for applying "branding" and the amounts are unreal, and I happen to have a customer going through the R

Re: BIMI pilot at Google

2020-07-22 Thread Kevin A. McGrail
I posted it without any opinion just as a data point. No need for the personal attack. If the feature ends up helping me classify spam.or ham accurately, maybe it's a good thing. I pay for plenty of intelligence feeds to do that. However, I have questions of adoption rate, impersonation concerns,

Re: Thanks to Guardian Digital & LinuxSecurity for the nice post about SpamAssassin's upcoming change

2020-07-22 Thread Kevin A. McGrail
DelayList would be my off the cuff thought. Grey isn't racially charged but renaming it would be more descriptive on what it does. The SA project doesn't have any greylisting functionality, that is usually the MTA. On Wed, Jul 22, 2020, 22:37 Olivier wrote: > I am wondering what grey list shou

Re: BIMI pilot at Google

2020-07-22 Thread Luis E. Muñoz
On 22 Jul 2020, at 23:14, Kevin A. McGrail wrote: However, I have questions of adoption rate, impersonation concerns, anticompetitive concerns, and privacy concerns. This just sounds like a commercial tracking pixel but the devil is in the details. The pilot will shake things out more I imag