On 30 Dec 2015, at 8:37, RW wrote:
On Tue, 29 Dec 2015 20:41:31 -0500
Bill Cole wrote:
On 29 Dec 2015, at 20:02, Ian Zimmerman wrote:
esired result.
Clearly you can do the su magic if needed.
Um, no.
Neither su nor sudo magically changes the permissions or ownership of
files.
No, but
On Tue, 29 Dec 2015 20:41:31 -0500
Bill Cole wrote:
> On 29 Dec 2015, at 20:02, Ian Zimmerman wrote:
>
esired result.
> >
> > Clearly you can do the su magic if needed.
>
> Um, no.
>
> Neither su nor sudo magically changes the permissions or ownership of
> files.
No, but sudo allows sa-
Am 30.12.2015 um 03:11 schrieb Ian Zimmerman:
On 2015-12-29 20:41 -0500, Bill Cole wrote:
Neither su nor sudo magically changes the permissions or ownership of
files. If you pass filenames as arguments they must be readable by the
user actually running sa-learn, which is the *unprivileged* us
On 2015-12-29 20:41 -0500, Bill Cole wrote:
> Neither su nor sudo magically changes the permissions or ownership of
> files. If you pass filenames as arguments they must be readable by the
> user actually running sa-learn, which is the *unprivileged* user
> handling the system-wide BayesDB ("amavi
On 29 Dec 2015, at 20:02, Ian Zimmerman wrote:
On 2015-12-29 19:44 -0500, Bill Cole wrote:
On 29 Dec 2015, at 18:54, Ian Zimmerman wrote:
In fact sa-learn accepts multiple named arguments on the command
line,
so the alternative I use is to go through the spambox N files at a
time
in a shel
On 2015-12-29 19:44 -0500, Bill Cole wrote:
> On 29 Dec 2015, at 18:54, Ian Zimmerman wrote:
>
> >In fact sa-learn accepts multiple named arguments on the command line,
> >so the alternative I use is to go through the spambox N files at a time
> >in a shell loop. (I have N=100 but obviously this
On 29 Dec 2015, at 18:54, Ian Zimmerman wrote:
In fact sa-learn accepts multiple named arguments on the command line,
so the alternative I use is to go through the spambox N files at a
time
in a shell loop. (I have N=100 but obviously this depends.)
Which successfully ignores the original i
On 2015-12-29 17:50 -0500, Bill Cole wrote:
> Yes, with the advantage of using Mail::SpamAssassin::Util::secure_tmpfile()
> rather
> than whatever I happen to roll up in a bit of Q&D shell that I never get
> around to
> reviewing for edge cases...
>
> The main reason to do something like that i
On 29 Dec 2015, at 13:24, RW wrote:
On Mon, 28 Dec 2015 23:42:03 -0500
Bill Cole wrote:
Using these facts, my learning script that runs as root and reads
from multiple real users' Maildirs does this to learn ham:
for AFILE in $HAMS ; do formail < $AFILE ; done| sudo -H -u
$SAUSER sa-learn -
On 29 Dec 2015, at 8:28, Jude DaShiell wrote:
With spamassassin, is it possible to have the filter show counts of
number of messages sent to spam, number of messages sent to ham, and
total number of messages processed that a user can check?
Since SpamAssassin is a suite of Perl modules and an
On Mon, 28 Dec 2015 23:42:03 -0500
Bill Cole wrote:
> Using these facts, my learning script that runs as root and reads
> from multiple real users' Maildirs does this to learn ham:
>
>for AFILE in $HAMS ; do formail < $AFILE ; done| sudo -H -u
> $SAUSER sa-learn --ham --mbox
>
> Where $HAMS
Am 29.12.2015 um 05:42 schrieb Bill Cole:
On 28 Dec 2015, at 17:54, Peter L. Berghold wrote:
The script that I use to pull the messages out of a
spam bucket invoking sa-learn runs as root which has permissions to read
from anywhere. The complication is the amavis does not have permissions
to
er of
> messages processed that a user can check?On Mon, 28 Dec 2015, Bill Cole wrote:
>
>> Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2015 23:42:03
>> From: Bill Cole
>> Reply-To: users@spamassassin.apache.org
>> To: users@spamassassin.apache.org
>> Subject: Re: Is BAYES filtering working?
: users@spamassassin.apache.org
To: users@spamassassin.apache.org
Subject: Re: Is BAYES filtering working? Having doubts.
On 28 Dec 2015, at 17:54, Peter L. Berghold wrote:
The script that I use to pull the messages out of a
spam bucket invoking sa-learn runs as root which has permissions to read
On 28 Dec 2015, at 17:54, Peter L. Berghold wrote:
The script that I use to pull the messages out of a
spam bucket invoking sa-learn runs as root which has permissions to
read
from anywhere. The complication is the amavis does not have
permissions
to read the Maildir files for trivial users
Am 28.12.2015 um 23:54 schrieb Peter L. Berghold:
I think you might be on to something here. When I run
"sa-learn --dump magic"
as root and as amavis they are definitely different. Here is the result
as "root" again:
so this is going to complicate how I educate SpamAsssassin about what
sp
I think you might be on to something here. When I run
"sa-learn --dump magic"
as root and as amavis they are definitely different. Here is the result
as "root" again:
# sa-learn --dump magic
0.000 0 3 0 non-token data: bayes db version
0.000 0 702
On Mon, 28 Dec 2015, Peter L. Berghold wrote:
On Mon, Dec 28, 2015 at 11:38:17AM -0800, John Hardin wrote:
* you haven't also been training ham. Bayes needs sufficient examples of
both to be able to make a judgement.
Oh yes, been training ham too.
Good.
* you're somehow mistraining Bay
Am 28.12.2015 um 20:27 schrieb Peter L. Berghold:
I've been noticing a lot of SPAM emails coming to my account with
subject headers "Trump's Brain Secret" and similar, along with "Amazon
Gift Card" and other something for nothing sorts of emails. I keep
feeding them to sa-learn and yet they st
On Mon, 28 Dec 2015, Peter L. Berghold wrote:
I've been noticing a lot of SPAM emails coming to my account with subject
headers "Trump's Brain Secret" and similar, along with "Amazon Gift Card" and
other something for nothing sorts of emails. I keep feeding them to sa-learn
and yet they still
On Monday 28 December 2015 at 20:27:32, Peter L. Berghold wrote:
> I've been noticing a lot of SPAM emails coming to my account
> How do I figure out where the issue is or if the learning is even
> working?
Show us the headers of the delivered email/s?
Antony.
--
"Once you have a panic, thin
I've been noticing a lot of SPAM emails coming to my account with
subject headers "Trump's Brain Secret" and similar, along with "Amazon
Gift Card" and other something for nothing sorts of emails. I keep
feeding them to sa-learn and yet they still keep popping up every other
fetch from my serv
Am 03.09.2015 um 15:50 schrieb Roman Gelfand:
Understood. I was under the impression, --username parameter of
sa-learn only pertains mysql. Is this correct?
yes, but exactly the same happens when you use "bayes_path" or call
"sa-learn" with the user for which you train and since you never
Understood. I was under the impression, --username parameter of sa-learn
only pertains mysql. Is this correct?
On Thu, Sep 3, 2015 at 8:04 AM Reindl Harald wrote:
>
>
> Am 03.09.2015 um 13:48 schrieb Roman Gelfand:
> > I reconfigured spamassassin to use mysql. Now, it seems to be working.
> >
Am 03.09.2015 um 13:48 schrieb Roman Gelfand:
I reconfigured spamassassin to use mysql. Now, it seems to be working.
With every email, of the same type, learned for spam, the score is being
bumped up
well, that's not because mysql, as explained multiple times you need to
train the same baye
On 2 Aug 2015 21:06:40 +0200
Christian Jaeger wrote:
> qpsmtpd is different here since it has a plugin architecture and then
> it definitely makes more sense to document things in the plugins,
> which are just modules. If spamassassin does not have such an
> architecture then I agree it makes sen
On August 2, 2015 7:36:36 PM CEST, RW wrote:
> In future start with
>
> man spamassassin
>
> which will lead you to:
>
> CONFIGURATION
>Mail::SpamAssassin::Conf SpamAssassin configuration files
I think I've actually seen this page rececntly. I also remember having looked
throug
On Sun, 2 Aug 2015, Christian Jaeger wrote:
On August 2, 2015 6:40:10 PM CEST, Reindl Harald wrote:
no idea what you are talking about by saying
"I can't find anything about this in the docs"
I'm talking about the bundled docs. The man / perldoc pages of
Mail::SpamAssassin::Plugin::Bayes /
On 2 Aug 2015 18:52:38 +0200
Christian Jaeger wrote:
> On August 2, 2015 6:40:10 PM CEST, Reindl Harald
> wrote:
> > no idea what you are talking about by saying
> > "I can't find anything about this in the docs"
>
> I'm talking about the bundled docs. The man / perldoc pages of
> Mail::SpamAssa
On August 2, 2015 6:40:10 PM CEST, Reindl Harald wrote:
> no idea what you are talking about by saying
> "I can't find anything about this in the docs"
I'm talking about the bundled docs. The man / perldoc pages of
Mail::SpamAssassin::Plugin::Bayes / Mail::SpamAssassin::*Bayes* and the default
Am 02.08.2015 um 18:36 schrieb Christian Jaeger:
On August 2, 2015 5:15:08 PM CEST, Reindl Harald wrote:
Am 02.08.2015 um 14:57 schrieb Roman Gelfand:
Could somebody post a successful bayes configuration?
??
you just need to *train* it for ham *and* spam
I think I remember from past us
On August 2, 2015 5:15:08 PM CEST, Reindl Harald wrote:
>
> Am 02.08.2015 um 14:57 schrieb Roman Gelfand:
> > Could somebody post a successful bayes configuration?
>
> ??
>
> you just need to *train* it for ham *and* spam
I think I remember from past use of SA that it only uses the bayes datab
Am 02.08.2015 um 14:57 schrieb Roman Gelfand:
Could somebody post a successful bayes configuration?
??
you just need to *train* it for ham *and* spam
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Could somebody post a successful bayes configuration?
Thanks in advance
On Wed, 22 Jul 2015 09:52:10 -0400
Bill Cole wrote:
> On 22 Jul 2015, at 8:18, RW wrote:
>
> > YMMV but personally I've never had a single ham hit BAYES_99.
> > There's currently no evidence to suggest that the OP would have any
> > problem with short-circuiting on it.
>
> Experiences with that
Am 22.07.2015 um 15:52 schrieb Matus UHLAR - fantomas:
On 22.07.15 10:09, Reindl Harald wrote:
i doubt that you really want that and even if for sure not for
BAYES_99 but BAYES_999, it makes no sense - bayes alone is not the
only decision in a scoring system, it's one component
that said from
On 22.07.15 10:09, Reindl Harald wrote:
i doubt that you really want that and even if for sure not for
BAYES_99 but BAYES_999, it makes no sense - bayes alone is not the
only decision in a scoring system, it's one component
that said from someone scoring BAYES_999 with 7.9 while milter-reject
is
On 22 Jul 2015, at 8:18, RW wrote:
YMMV but personally I've never had a single ham hit BAYES_99. There's
currently no evidence to suggest that the OP would have any problem
with short-circuiting on it.
Experiences with that absolutely do vary, widely. Keep in mind that
Bayesian classification
On Wed, 22 Jul 2015 03:31:04 +
Roman Gelfand wrote:
> I think the issue was because I never ran sa-learn --sync.
That only matters if you set
bayes_learn_to_journal 1
Am 22.07.2015 um 14:18 schrieb RW:
On Wed, 22 Jul 2015 13:40:12 +0200
Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote:
Am 22.07.2015 um 05:05 schrieb Roman Gelfand:
shortcircuit BAYES_99 spam
shortcircuit BAYES_00 ham
On 22.07.15 10:09, Reindl Harald wrote:
i doubt that you really want that and even if for
On Wed, 22 Jul 2015 13:40:12 +0200
Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote:
> >Am 22.07.2015 um 05:05 schrieb Roman Gelfand:
> >>shortcircuit BAYES_99 spam
> >>shortcircuit BAYES_00 ham
>
> On 22.07.15 10:09, Reindl Harald wrote:
> >i doubt that you really want that and even if for sure not for
> >BAYES_99
Am 22.07.2015 um 13:40 schrieb Matus UHLAR - fantomas:
Am 22.07.2015 um 05:05 schrieb Roman Gelfand:
shortcircuit BAYES_99 spam
shortcircuit BAYES_00 ham
On 22.07.15 10:09, Reindl Harald wrote:
i doubt that you really want that and even if for sure not for
BAYES_99 but BAYES_999, it makes no
Am 22.07.2015 um 05:05 schrieb Roman Gelfand:
shortcircuit BAYES_99 spam
shortcircuit BAYES_00 ham
On 22.07.15 10:09, Reindl Harald wrote:
i doubt that you really want that and even if for sure not for
BAYES_99 but BAYES_999, it makes no sense - bayes alone is not the
only decision in a scori
Am 22.07.2015 um 05:05 schrieb Roman Gelfand:
shortcircuit BAYES_99 spam
shortcircuit BAYES_00 ham
i doubt that you really want that and even if for sure not for BAYES_99
but BAYES_999, it makes no sense - bayes alone is not the only decision
in a scoring system, it's one component
that sa
I think the issue was because I never ran sa-learn --sync.
On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 11:09 PM Roman Gelfand wrote:
> this is my bayes config
>
> use_bayes 1
> use_bayes_rules 1
>
>
> # Bayesian classifier auto-learning (default: 1)
> #
> bayes_auto_learn 1
> bayes_path /var/spamassassin/bayes
>
this is my bayes config
use_bayes 1
use_bayes_rules 1
# Bayesian classifier auto-learning (default: 1)
#
bayes_auto_learn 1
bayes_path /var/spamassassin/bayes
bayes_file_mode 0777
shortcircuit BAYES_99spam
shortcircuit BAYES_00ham
score BAYES_00 -3.5
score BAYE
I just ran spamassassin -D --lint. Below, is the bayes results.
Jul 21 22:49:41.958 [8922] dbg: bayes: learner_new
self=Mail::SpamAssassin::Plugin::Bayes=HASH(0xb54d58c),
bayes_store_module=Mail::SpamAssassin::BayesStore::DBM
Jul 21 22:49:42.063 [8922] dbg: bayes: learner_new: got
store=Mail::Spa
Good question. I am not sure. How do I tell which dB it is pointing? It
has been some time since I set it up.
On Tue, Jul 21, 2015, 9:14 PM David B Funk
wrote:
> On Wed, 22 Jul 2015, Roman Gelfand wrote:
>
> > I did numerous sa-learn on this one type of email and spamassasiin makes
> the fol
On Wed, 22 Jul 2015, Roman Gelfand wrote:
I did numerous sa-learn on this one type of email and spamassasiin makes the
following evaluation every time. I am not sure what I
am doing wrong.
X-Spam-Level: **
X-Spam-Status: No, score=2.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,HTML_MESSAGE,
MIME_HTM
I did numerous sa-learn on this one type of email and spamassasiin makes
the following evaluation every time. I am not sure what I am doing wrong.
X-Spam-Level: **
X-Spam-Status: No, score=2.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,HTML_MESSAGE,
MIME_HTML_ONLY,RDNS_NONE,T_FILL_THIS_FORM_SHORT,T_REMO
eidell a écrit :
> >>> -Original Message-
> >>> From: Noc Phibee [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>> Sent: Saturday, December 02, 2006 8:35 AM
> >>> To: users@spamassassin.apache.org
> >>> Subject: Best Choice for Bayes filtering on
Noc Phibee wrote:
Hi
i have 6 servers running on spamassassin 3.1.7 (now after a upgrades).
Actually, all have Bayes Filering with local Db (default db, not sql)
I want know what is the best choice ? :
- Default Db or MySQL db ?
- 1 Bayes Db per server or 1 Bayes on Sql for all serv
Nigel Frankcom; SpamAssassin
>> Subject: Re: Best Choice for Bayes filtering on SpamAssassin
>>
>>
>> What you seem to have missed in the conversation is that there is a
>> *single* bayes backend..
>
>What you misses is his QUESTION about 'Best Choice' (as
> -Original Message-
> From: Craig Morrison [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Saturday, December 02, 2006 3:08 PM
> To: Michael Scheidell
> Cc: Nigel Frankcom; SpamAssassin
> Subject: Re: Best Choice for Bayes filtering on SpamAssassin
>
>
> What you
Michael Scheidell wrote:
-Original Message-
From: Nigel Frankcom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, December 02, 2006 2:24 PM
To: SpamAssassin
Subject: Re: Best Choice for Bayes filtering on SpamAssassin
My MTA has a list of SA servers it will use in series; if 1
is
On Sat, 2 Dec 2006 14:27:57 -0500, "Michael Scheidell"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Nigel Frankcom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Sent: Saturday, December 02, 2006 2:24 PM
>> To: SpamAssassin
>> Subject: Re: B
> -Original Message-
> From: Nigel Frankcom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Saturday, December 02, 2006 2:24 PM
> To: SpamAssassin
> Subject: Re: Best Choice for Bayes filtering on SpamAssassin
>
> My MTA has a list of SA servers it will use in series; if 1
>
;>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Noc Phibee [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> Sent: Saturday, December 02, 2006 8:35 AM
>>> To: users@spamassassin.apache.org
>>> Subject: Best Choice for Bayes filtering on SpamAssassin
>>>
>>>
>&
> -Original Message-
> From: Noc Phibee [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Saturday, December 02, 2006 12:32 PM
> To: Michael Scheidell
> Cc: users@spamassassin.apache.org; Wazir Shpoon
> Subject: Re: Best Choice for Bayes filtering on SpamAssassin
>
>
> Thank
@spamassassin.apache.org
Subject: Best Choice for Bayes filtering on SpamAssassin
Hi
i have 6 servers running on spamassassin 3.1.7 (now after a
upgrades). Actually, all have Bayes Filering with local Db
(default db, not sql)
I want know what is the best choice ? :
- Default Db or
> -Original Message-
> From: Noc Phibee [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Saturday, December 02, 2006 8:35 AM
> To: users@spamassassin.apache.org
> Subject: Best Choice for Bayes filtering on SpamAssassin
>
>
> Hi
>
> i have 6 servers running on s
Hi
i have 6 servers running on spamassassin 3.1.7 (now after a upgrades).
Actually, all have Bayes Filering with local Db (default db, not sql)
I want know what is the best choice ? :
- Default Db or MySQL db ?
- 1 Bayes Db per server or 1 Bayes on Sql for all server (same
database)
> Ole Nomann Thomsen wrote:
>
> > Hi All.
> >
> > I was scanning my SA log-files, when i noticed that about 30% of the
> > "result:" -lines do not contain any "BAYES_*" score.
> >
> > Version info:
> > SpamAssassin version 3.1.0
> > running on Perl version 5.8.4
> > on Debian and Redhat Li
Ole Nomann Thomsen wrote:
> Hi All.
>
> I was scanning my SA log-files, when i noticed that about 30% of the
> "result:" -lines do not contain any "BAYES_*" score.
>
> Version info:
> SpamAssassin version 3.1.0
> running on Perl version 5.8.4
> on Debian and Redhat Linux
The explanation was
jdow wrote:
> From: "Ole Nomann Thomsen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>> Hi All.
>>
>> I was scanning my SA log-files, when i noticed that about 30% of the
>> "result:" -lines do not contain any "BAYES_*" score.
>
> I suspect that about 30% of your users have an untrained Bayes database.
Thanks, but
From: "Ole Nomann Thomsen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Hi All.
I was scanning my SA log-files, when i noticed that about 30% of the
"result:" -lines do not contain any "BAYES_*" score.
I suspect that about 30% of your users have an untrained Bayes database.
2. Could I ask a few list-members to che
Hi All.
I was scanning my SA log-files, when i noticed that about 30% of the
"result:" -lines do not contain any "BAYES_*" score.
Version info:
SpamAssassin version 3.1.0
running on Perl version 5.8.4
on Debian and Redhat Linux
Delving deeper, I added this to my user_prefs:
add_header al
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