RE: Switching

2013-08-22 Thread John Maher
Thanks for your replies Andrew and Thorsten. @Andrew there is no need for a svn copy. I do not want to copy a feature in one branch to another; I wish to keep the code isolated. And yes I know subversion won't delete unversioned files, I appreciate the info on how subversion works. Some

Re: Switching

2013-08-22 Thread Johan Corveleyn
On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 1:30 PM, John Maher jo...@rotair.com wrote: Thanks for your replies Andrew and Thorsten. @Andrew there is no need for a svn copy. I do not want to copy a feature in one branch to another; I wish to keep the code isolated. And yes I know subversion won't delete

Re: using svn merge, svn diff, and svn patch

2013-08-22 Thread James Hanley
So other then tar-ing up the WC, there is no way to reproduce local changes like this on another system? I know the example given is fairly simple, but it could be very useful. -Jim On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 3:28 PM, Stefan Sperling s...@elego.de wrote: On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 01:16:40PM -0400,

Feature Req: ability to specify a changelist for svn merge

2013-08-22 Thread James Hanley
ie: svn merge -cl merge_from_trunk https://svn.somerepo.com/project/trunk #Any items merged in are added to change list merge_from_trunk to # easily differentiate from local changes that the user does not want to check in svn status M local_file_changes.txt --- Changelist

Re: Switching

2013-08-22 Thread Les Mikesell
On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 6:30 AM, John Maher jo...@rotair.com wrote: @Andrew there is no need for a svn copy. I do not want to copy a feature in one branch to another; I wish to keep the code isolated. And yes I know subversion won't delete unversioned files, I appreciate the info on how

Re: How Big A Dump File Can Be Handled? (svn 1.8 upgrade)

2013-08-22 Thread Thomas Harold
On 8/21/2013 7:13 PM, Geoff Field wrote: I'm keeping the original BDB repositories, with read-only permissions. If I really have the need, I can restart Apache 2 with SVN 1.2.3 and go back to the original repositories. Otherwise, I also have the option of re-running my batch file (modifying it

RE: Switching

2013-08-22 Thread John Maher
Thanks for the reply Les. Actually I would call the problem the way I am using the tool. Since no one has provided a better solution there may not be one. Perhaps no one considered switching between branches where there could exist a directory with unversioned files in one and not the other.

Re: Switching

2013-08-22 Thread Thorsten Schöning
Guten Tag John Maher, am Donnerstag, 22. August 2013 um 17:48 schrieben Sie: Actually I would call the problem the way I am using the tool. Since no one has provided a better solution there may not be one. Perhaps no one considered switching between branches where there could exist a

RE: Switching

2013-08-22 Thread Andrew Reedick
-Original Message- From: Thorsten Schöning [mailto:tschoen...@am-soft.de] Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2013 12:21 PM To: users@subversion.apache.org Subject: Re: Switching How would you like Subversion to work in your case? From my understanding it breaks down to something

RE: Switching

2013-08-22 Thread John Maher
I don't think you even tried Thorsten, I can easily. There are actually several options. 1) When switching branches don't raise a conflict if all the files in the directory are in the global ignore list. And if all that exists in a directory are files to be ignored it makes logical sense to

RE: Switching

2013-08-22 Thread Bob Archer
-Original Message- From: Thorsten Schöning [mailto:tschoen...@am-soft.de] Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2013 12:21 PM To: users@subversion.apache.org Subject: Re: Switching How would you like Subversion to work in your case? From my understanding it breaks down to something

Re: Switching

2013-08-22 Thread Les Mikesell
On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 11:40 AM, John Maher jo...@rotair.com wrote: I don't think you even tried Thorsten, I can easily. There are actually several options. How about just 'delete the spurious unversioned files yourself'? The problem is the versioned directory containing them that is not

Re: Switching

2013-08-22 Thread Johan Corveleyn
On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 5:48 PM, John Maher jo...@rotair.com wrote: Actually I would call the problem the way I am using the tool. Since no one has provided a better solution there may not be one. ... Did you read my previous mail in this thread? IMO a better solution in your case is not to

RE: Switching

2013-08-22 Thread John Maher
How about just 'delete the spurious unversioned files yourself'? As I said in the previous reply, two of those files are user settings. They would have to be constantly recreated by the developer. That increases costs. One of the reasons I wanted some form of source code control was to

Re: Switching

2013-08-22 Thread Edwin Castro
On 8/22/13 7:59 AM, Les Mikesell wrote: On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 6:30 AM, John Maher jo...@rotair.com wrote: @Andrew there is no need for a svn copy. I do not want to copy a feature in one branch to another; I wish to keep the code isolated. And yes I know subversion won't delete

Re: Switching

2013-08-22 Thread Les Mikesell
On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 12:15 PM, John Maher jo...@rotair.com wrote: How about just 'delete the spurious unversioned files yourself'? As I said in the previous reply, two of those files are user settings. They would have to be constantly recreated by the developer. That increases costs.

RE: Switching

2013-08-22 Thread John Maher
Thanks for the reply Johan. I did not get your previous mail, thanks for re-stating it. That is worth looking into. I'll see how much I have to change to allow the alternate directories. Maybe experiment keeping the trunk on the network for backup purposes and the branches local so as not

RE: Switching

2013-08-22 Thread John Maher
Thanks for the reply Edwin. The clean up script is a good idea but won't work here. We have mostly all class libraries. One executable. This means to test we need to specify an application in the project. Some developers use the exe while some use a tool made just for testing the classes.

RE: Switching

2013-08-22 Thread Andrew Reedick
-Original Message- From: John Maher [mailto:jo...@rotair.com] Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2013 1:34 PM To: Johan Corveleyn Cc: Thorsten Schöning; users@subversion.apache.org Subject: RE: Switching The problem isn't something in the way, the problem is something is there when

RE: Switching

2013-08-22 Thread John Maher
I'll try to clarify, everyone has their own copy of the tool. They also have their own copy of their settings. The problem arises because the tool stores the settings files in the same folder as some code specific files. This can not be changed. So within a single directory we need to

Re: Switching

2013-08-22 Thread Les Mikesell
On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 12:43 PM, John Maher jo...@rotair.com wrote: The clean up script is a good idea but won't work here. We have mostly all class libraries. One executable. This means to test we need to specify an application in the project. Some developers use the exe while some use

RE: Switching

2013-08-22 Thread John Maher
This happens even if you do not do a build. There is a class library in one branch but not the other mixed with unversioned files that I can do nothing about. -Original Message- From: Andrew Reedick [mailto:andrew.reed...@cbeyond.net] Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2013 1:48 PM To: John

Re: Switching

2013-08-22 Thread Philip Martin
John Maher jo...@rotair.com writes: I use one folder for my source code (all branches) mainly because of vendor requirements the code must be run from the same directory. I have created two branches for two new features. One feature extends an existing library. The other feature adds a new

RE: Switching

2013-08-22 Thread John Maher
You are correct that there will be issues with a fresh checkout. But I can live with that. The code will not be affected, just the way the code is tested. Once the developer decides on how they wish to test I do not want to A) lose those changes or B) step on the choices others have made by

Re: Switching

2013-08-22 Thread Les Mikesell
On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 12:52 PM, John Maher jo...@rotair.com wrote: I'll try to clarify, everyone has their own copy of the tool. They also have their own copy of their settings. The problem arises because the tool stores the settings files in the same folder as some code specific files.

Re: Switching

2013-08-22 Thread Edwin Castro
I agree with Les here on the point about making sure you can automate the process correctly only with versioned resources. In our CI builds we have the versioned resources configured so that all tests are executed every time. Developers execute subsets of tests through their tools and are expected

Re: Switching

2013-08-22 Thread Les Mikesell
On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 12:58 PM, John Maher jo...@rotair.com wrote: You are correct that there will be issues with a fresh checkout. But I can live with that. Not caring if you can reproduce a workspace is a bold statement to make on a version control mail list. Don't be surprised if

Re: Switching

2013-08-22 Thread Edwin Castro
On 8/22/13 10:54 AM, John Maher wrote: This happens even if you do not do a build. There is a class library in one branch but not the other mixed with unversioned files that I can do nothing about. Statements like this make me believe that build system is broken. I would expect the svn

RE: Switching

2013-08-22 Thread John Maher
Again Les, you misunderstand. I have no problems with the workspace. It is exactly the same for everyone, everytime. Please read carefully before you respond. It has nothing to do with the build. It is user settings, a config file, ini file, choose your terminology. If you don't

Re: Switching

2013-08-22 Thread Dave Huang
On Aug 22, 2013, at 13:39, John Maher jo...@rotair.com wrote: You digress. Not a single one of the compiled libraries lives within the versioned directories. Please read the question before replying incorrectly. It has nothing to do with code. It has nothing to do with the build.

Re: Switching

2013-08-22 Thread Edwin Castro
You said, and I quote, There is a class library in one branch but not in the other mixed with unversioned files that I can do nothing about. I misread that statement to mean you had compiled output committed in one branch. You seem to be trying to point out that the class library is not compiled

Re: Feature Req: ability to specify a changelist for svn merge

2013-08-22 Thread Branko Čibej
On 22.08.2013 15:55, James Hanley wrote: ie: svn merge -cl merge_from_trunk https://svn.somerepo.com/project/trunk #Any items merged in are added to change list merge_from_trunk to # easily differentiate from local changes that the user does not want to check in svn status M

Re: Feature Req: ability to specify a changelist for svn merge

2013-08-22 Thread Edwin Castro
On 8/22/13 6:55 AM, James Hanley wrote: ie: svn merge -cl merge_from_trunk https://svn.somerepo.com/project/trunk #Any items merged in are added to change list merge_from_trunk to # easily differentiate from local changes that the user does not want to check in svn status M

Re: Switching

2013-08-22 Thread Les Mikesell
On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 1:34 PM, John Maher jo...@rotair.com wrote: Again Les, you misunderstand. I have no problems with the workspace. It is exactly the same for everyone, everytime. Please read carefully before you respond. It has nothing to do with the build. It is user settings, a

Feature Req: sorthand urls for branches/tags in CLI

2013-08-22 Thread Laszlo Kishalmi
Dear subversion users, developers, I'm working on a project where we are actively working on many branches. It works great. Despite all the IDE support I have, as a build and release engineer, I need to work a lot from command line. Addressing branches/tags could be a pain from command line

Re: Switching

2013-08-22 Thread Travis Brown
On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 04:16:49PM -0500, Les Mikesell claimed: snip The contents of the file are irrelevant. The point is that it has to either be versioned so svn can delete it knowing that you can get it back, and then delete the containing directory that is really the issue, or you have to

Re: Switching

2013-08-22 Thread Les Mikesell
On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 4:49 PM, Travis Brown trav...@travisbrown.ca wrote: On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 04:16:49PM -0500, Les Mikesell claimed: snip The contents of the file are irrelevant. The point is that it has to either be versioned so svn can delete it knowing that you can get it back, and

Re: Switching

2013-08-22 Thread Edwin Castro
On 8/22/13 3:00 PM, Les Mikesell wrote: Why can svn not, instead, simply interpret an already existing directory as not a conflict? Certainly if a versioned file would overwrite an unversioned file of the same name then that is a true conflict because the content may differ. A directory has

RE: How Big A Dump File Can Be Handled? (svn 1.8 upgrade)

2013-08-22 Thread Geoff Field
Hi Thomas, From: Thomas Harold Sent: Friday, 23 August 2013 1:25 AM On 8/21/2013 7:13 PM, Geoff Field wrote: I'm keeping the original BDB repositories, with read-only permissions. If I really have the need, I can restart Apache 2 with SVN 1.2.3 and go back to the original

Re: Feature Req: sorthand urls for branches/tags in CLI

2013-08-22 Thread Daniel Shahaf
Laszlo Kishalmi wrote on Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 23:15:04 +0200: Implementation ideas: We put a specific property on project1 folder let's call it svn:branches for now. Here we could describe the layout of branches and tags for that part of repository. E.g.: a) Using

Re: svn 1.8 causing locks to be broken on update

2013-08-22 Thread Felipe Alvarez
Johan Corveleyn jcor...@gmail.com writes: Now, playing user's advocate: is there still something useful to do here? I.e. apparently ra_neon worked fine with the broken servers. Should ra_serf also be able to handle this, so 1.8 clients can still work fine with servers 1.6.17? It

Re: How Big A Dump File Can Be Handled? (svn 1.8 upgrade)

2013-08-22 Thread Thomas Harold
On 8/22/2013 7:11 PM, Geoff Field wrote: 6. Create the repository in svn 1.8. I'm sure there's an upgrade command that would do it all in-place. 7. Strip permissions on the repository back down to 700, owned by root:root while we reload the data. While, or before? Step 6 created the

RE: How Big A Dump File Can Be Handled? (svn 1.8 upgrade)

2013-08-22 Thread Geoff Field
From: Thomas Harold Sent: Friday, 23 August 2013 11:53 AM On 8/22/2013 7:11 PM, Geoff Field wrote: Most restores for us took about 5-10 minutes, a few of our larger repos took a few hours. I was doing this all in the background via remote login to our SVN server, so I didn't monitor times.

Seg fault when committing 'forks' with svn 1.8.1 client

2013-08-22 Thread Stephane Odul
I have a project that I need to fork (in the same repo): $ svn cp foo bar $ svn rm bar/trunk/some_dir $ svn rm bar/trunk/some_file $ emacs bart/trunk/other_files $ svn ci Segmentation fault: 11 I use the 1.8.1 client from macports: $ svn --version svn, version 1.8.1 (r1503906) compiled Aug 13

Re: server config

2013-08-22 Thread Scott Frankel
Hi all, I appreciate all the tips and info I've received from my server config questions. It looks like I need to do much more to secure my server before tackling he SVN portion. I'm going to take a step back and do that first. If necessary I'll (re)post once that's complete. Thanks!

Re: server config

2013-08-22 Thread Scott Frankel
Hi all, I appreciate all the tips and info I've received from my server config questions. It looks like I need to do much more to secure my server before tackling he SVN portion. I'm going to take a step back and do that first. If necessary I'll (re)post once that's complete. Thanks!

Re: Feature Req: sorthand urls for branches/tags in CLI

2013-08-22 Thread Ben Reser
On 8/22/13 2:15 PM, Laszlo Kishalmi wrote: I'd propose a -b [--branch] option or extend the meaning of ^ sign for those commands which can work with URL-s. Extending ˇ would mean that when used as ^/ it means repository root and using it as ^[branch] then it would refer to a branch. How